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FamilyRe: A Story Of Abuse by mutter(f): 4:12pm On Feb 03, 2015
soulglo:
Report it to the police anonymously. It's the least you could do. I cannot have this kind of information and sleep at night. REPORT IT. Let the man and the child's parents smell the inside of a jail cell.


PS
Aren't medical practitioners required to report this in Nigeria. It would be a shame if this was not required by law.
FamilyRe: A Story Of Abuse by mutter(f): 4:11pm On Feb 03, 2015
soulglo:
Report it to the police anonymously. It's the least you could do. I cannot have this kind of information and sleep at night. REPORT IT. Let the man and the child's parents smell the inside of a jail cell.


PS
Aren't medical practitioners required to report this in Nigeria. It would be a shame if this was not required by law.
Do you really think it is a wise idea reporting such a thing in Nigeria?
The girl will be stigmatized and even blamed for what happened.

We have a culture of silence and it remains so. cry

She will have to deal with the pain and shame silently and alone. Better than letting it out and getting mocked and stigmatized.

As "wise ones " advice in Nigeria- it is the one you talk that people know.!

There is much more involved than just speaking out. You have to continue with counseling and special care. Victims have to be prepared to face the storm that comes with the exposure.
Will have to be helped get their self esteem back otherwise they become victims again and again in life.

Do we have all this in Nigeria?
FamilyRe: Woman Gets Revenge On Cheating Husband By Sleeping With His Mistress’ Brother by mutter(f): 3:58pm On Feb 03, 2015
Double the rsk of getting infected embarassed

Talk of cutting your nose to spite your face.

Poor children.
FamilyRe: Concern As More Us-based Nigerians Murder Their Spouses by mutter(f): 3:57pm On Feb 03, 2015
ifyalways:
I quite agree with some of your posts, however, nothing justifies murder.
Agreed, those men were pushed to the wall but ending the marriage as opposed to the wife's life is a better option.

Well, the ladies are the ones getting killed because of their greed. You know you don't love a man, then don't jump into marriage just so you escape poverty.
Nothing justifies murder!
But to find a solution one should try and find out the reason it is happening and how one can avoid falling victim!
That is what this is about.
FamilyRe: Concern As More Us-based Nigerians Murder Their Spouses by mutter(f): 1:07pm On Feb 03, 2015
aisha2:
But some of the men still expect that after a hard day the woman will come home and still perform her duties as is done in Africa. Failure to do so will earn her the tag of bad wife who wants to be westernised.
There are case scenarios for each of the scenes we have both painted. For me the way to get back at someone who hurts you is not by murdering them
Aisha please, the woman was married to perform the duties of a wife. To submit and love her husband, take care of his home and family. They live in a system where you have to consider if the pay you get is worth employing a nanny or paying for child care.

It is the duty of the woman to cook and do the house work and she can thank God when she has a man who helps her.

Why leave your duty to do something else? First cope with your assigned duties before venturing into others.

The main issue here is that the man and kid`s are suffering neglect and the woman is sending the money home to her family or building her own empire in Nigeria.
Is that what the man married her for?
FamilyRe: Concern As More Us-based Nigerians Murder Their Spouses by mutter(f): 1:03pm On Feb 03, 2015
Sophyrocks:
Have women here not gone through worse in Nigeria? Did these women go on shooting spree like their male counterparts abroad? Please you are clearly justifying murder by constantly pointing at the women. I wonder what the views here would be if it were women doing the killing. No matter what a woman does to you, no matter how acidic her mouth is to you, you dnt commit MURDER madam!! You dnt!! stop with the justification!!
Well women are doing it and have been doing it.
All the men that dies mysterious deaths in Nigeria. I wonder how many were poisoned?
Women kill their husbands and even their children sometimes. It does happen.
Look in certain parts of Nigeria, they take these children to spiritual churches and claim they are evil and witches and get the children tortured and even killed. Women that throw away their babies.

This is not a "man thing".
FamilyRe: Concern As More Us-based Nigerians Murder Their Spouses by mutter(f): 12:55pm On Feb 03, 2015
andromida:
True the couples hardly know themselves which is why the man should have married a woman he will not have to kill or develop coping skills to match the situation.

Note the woman could have divorced him and walked away with everything as you said but she didn't so why did she stay?
Why did she stay!
Did Aisha mention that there are no house helps over there.
Wrong- the men have been turned to house helps and are also privileged to be allowed to pay the bills.

When a nurse works 16 hours, who dresses and takes the kid`s to school, does the homework etc. I know a man that works night and his wife is a nurse. He comes back early in the morning baths and takes his girls to KG and school. Goes home sleeps a few hours then picks the kid`s from school. He then does the homework and housework and when the wife comes in the evening he is off to work.
The man is a nervous wreck. In this case the woman is a nice lady but till the man can`t cope.
FamilyRe: Concern As More Us-based Nigerians Murder Their Spouses by mutter(f): 12:43pm On Feb 03, 2015
aisha2:
So if women push their husband's to the wall should their reward be death? Men here push women to the wall everyday because the law here favours them, if women start poisoning their husband's should we say " oh well its the men who pushed them to the wall"?
Abuse of power is common to both genders but should one take laws into their hands and end a life?
As hard as it is for women here to start their life all over we always advice that they leave when a relationship gets bad, men too there should leave. Murdering their wives can certainly not be a solution
Aisha, ask your self this question-
What drives a man to commit an act that would get him locked up in jail for the rest of his life in a foriegn land. He would sit in jail and strangers take care of his kid`s. Not see his parent`s in Nigeria, not attend any funerals, weddings, go to any sick bed. Loose everything he had in his life.

What would make a rational human being pay such a high price. It certainly is not just anger or revenge! It is much more. The men have lost complete control of the situation because the fuse has snapped.
FamilyRe: Concern As More Us-based Nigerians Murder Their Spouses by mutter(f): 12:13pm On Feb 03, 2015
aisha2:
Its het fault when she works 16 hours a day and comes home and is expected to clean up, cook and care for the kids without complaint knowing fully well she can't get a house help to help out abroad like we have here. A man who wants control will do anything to get it. Are there no women abroad? Why travel and marry a woman he doesn't know simply to bring her abroad and try to control her knowing the system abroad doesn't function like that?
He wants good roads, good health care a working system, a wife who earns well yet he still wants to act like an African cave man while enjoying the benefits of civilization abroad.

I can't even deal with this line of thought, all women abroad are not evil, marry who you know and stop running to marry girls you don't know just so you can act like a barbarian abeg.
This is sad coming from someone abused so all thosr times you got beaten shebi you provoked your ex? You make it sound as if these women earn their deaths did you earn every slap and belt you received
Aisha no one said the women are evil.

That is the reality of life out there. You wake up exhausted and you go to bed exhausted. The kind of chores I have to do here I can`t imagine a woman in Nigeria having to deal with that. Working hours on end and days on end is nothing strange. I have had jobs that started at 4 in the morning, worked 28 days through without a day off. Kept more than one job and still had to do my house work. All that with kid`s and pregnancy in between. The life out here is no fun at all. It is hard.
That is why it is so important for the man and the wife to unite as one and plan and make the situation bearable. Because it is so sad out there you need to have peace at home. Also if you keep working hours on end to make more money then the home suffers.
FamilyRe: Concern As More Us-based Nigerians Murder Their Spouses by mutter(f): 11:58am On Feb 03, 2015
andromida:
How and why will a woman go from daddy and sir to useless man? can it be just because her eyes are opened or are there other things going on that you cannot know. Why must it be the woman's fault? Accepted in some instances it will be mostly the woman's fault but it cannot be in all instances.

You speak of vow did the man not promise to love his wife? yet he kills the woman he promised to love for his pride sake he prefers his children to be orphans what level of selfishness is this? even the children are nothing to him his pride means every thing this is the kind of man that cannot command respect.

I don't think this kind of man is concerned about the custody of his kids,all he is concerned about is himself. If he was concerned about his kids he would not kill their mom and truly destroy everything.
Yes there are certainly women that are innocent.

However you meet a man that comes back from a foriegn land. He left ages ago, you do notcare how he really makes his money, what he did there, how he got his stay.
You enter into the mouth of a dragon blindfolded. He does not care about the custody of the children- possible, he probably already has kid`s that he discarded with a woman from there or more.
You meet him in Nigeria in glamour, you do not realize that he is toiling in a foreign land to display that glamour there.
I am not saying that the men are innocent, certainly not!
After toiling and slaving they are there to look for their domestic slave to assist them in the slavery.
You should toil for him and give him the fruits of your labour.
In most cases you must admit that the couple hardly know themselves.
FamilyRe: Concern As More Us-based Nigerians Murder Their Spouses by mutter(f): 11:44am On Feb 03, 2015
aisha2:
Okay, now I must admit you need mental help. This is sick, so its okay to kill her because she is rude. Mutter with all due respect you are not sane. Your own ex husband didn't kill you, but because you are alive and living you can spew this for other abused women justifying their murder. This is sick
No justification for murder or violence in any form or on any person. No that is not what I am trying to say at all .
However even the law recognizes things like provocation and someone can totally loose control, become insane, snap.

At the end of the day of what use is it if it was justified or not. The poor woman is dead and no one can bring her back.
I actually am mad that women get exposed to such dangers and also that they expose themselves to such dangers
Indeed even their families encourage them to discard the man and send the money home to them.

If he had killed me I would have come back to hunt my family and society for putting that pressure on women to stay in a marriage cheesy
FamilyRe: Concern As More Us-based Nigerians Murder Their Spouses by mutter(f): 11:09am On Feb 03, 2015
andromida:
But why did the men marry such women? and if the women are so evil why not divorce them?

Seeing as a woman can break a man he should do his due diligence to marry a woman who is good for him and become the kind of man who can command respect from his wife so that the children can learn how to respect themselves and others.
The men married them because when before they got out they acted all humble or probably even where, but then their eyes opened.
I see some when they come newly "sir, daddy" and after a few months, "useless man".

How does a man become the kind of man that commands respect? Every human being commands respect. In accordance with our tradition every man commands respect from every woman and men have a different status in society. Did the woman not take a vow to submit to him or better for worse?
When you do the wine carrying why do you go down on your knees? Is that just a show, a body movement. It is a promise to the man made before your family and his that you would submit to the man and go down for him. The man does not have to command his respect it is your duty as his wife.

Divorcing them would mean loosing everything, even custody of the kid`s. That is how it functions. The man would loose everything he built up. He not only looses it but looses it to someone he built up who turned around to destroy him.
FamilyRe: A Story Of Abuse by mutter(f): 11:00am On Feb 03, 2015
For all I care the parents are probably even blaming the girl to some extent.
"The way you smile with men.....:"
Secondly rather than their name being tarnished let the matter be buried.

These are stories that just hurt me to my bone marrow. Little children being subjected to abuse most times not even just from one person but from several persons they are exposed to thought their family.
FamilyRe: Homophobia! - Nature Or Nurture? by mutter(f): 10:49am On Feb 03, 2015
pcguru1:
I get what you mean, I just believe the right to expression should be limited yes I know I sound like a tyrant but I think too much freedom allows hate speech and opinions. That's just me but I respect that you respect my view. Also Am no way misogynistic or atheist totally the opposite
Certainly freedom of speech should be limited because your rights end where mine start and most battles start with words.

So much havoc is being caused in the world today because people mean that they are exercising their fundamental human rights, yet through this they are stepping on the rights of others. Example the french cartoons recently.
But as usual might is always right.
FamilyRe: Concern As More Us-based Nigerians Murder Their Spouses by mutter(f): 10:43am On Feb 03, 2015
When you have nothing to live for, then you have everything to die for!

The fact that it keeps happening shows that the men are not all suddenly going mad.

A man that had worked so hard brought his much younger wife here to Germany, when they come to church the wife was so rude to the man, perhaps because she was better educated. I quickly grabbed hold of her and drew her aside. I warned her that her husband was respected in this community and if she ever tried it again where I was I would shred her to bits. Foolish girl!

These greedy bitches accept a man they do not love and are ashamed of just to get out of Nigeria and then they want to ruin the man.
Do you know that these men have worked so hard for so many years! Received all kinds of insults from society and then you bring this young girl and she gives you the final insult to let you know you are = 0.
How many of them come here with nothing and soon the man is out of his own home on the streets and having to pay maintenance.
When the study in America, they are able to do so because the man brought them there.
Nursing is not even a good paying job, like any menial job you can gather money if you work enough hours. While they are at work they cannot perform as wife`s so of what use is the work if it does not benefit the family?

No matter how educated or how much money they have a woman must humble herself and treat her husband with the utmost respect in all situations. That is not just good for the man but also for the children. The children are raised in an environment where the learn respect and manners.
That is what you get when a man that has struggled for years gets dragged into the mud in his own home. A man that has struggled and faced discrimination and abuse outside. Treat him like a king at home so that he can feel like the man he is, that will give him the strength to keep struggling.
Instead these women get rude, function like they don`t have a family, neglect the welfare of their husbands and homes and go running after the dollars.
FamilyRe: Agony Of A Faithfull Wife by mutter(f): 10:18am On Feb 03, 2015
Thank God in most cases a loving wife gets rewarded to some extent at least.

But seriously don`t most women carry out the same chores? Cooking, school runs and so on? That`s part of being a woman.
And the part about her asking him where he has been? In RL any woman that gets this kind of battering will not come on the idea of confronting the man as he steps in.

OT but really when a man comes home, let him enter the house and settle down before you bombard him. That is something most women need to learn. After he has eaten and rested you can talk to him calmly.
You also need to know when the right time is to raise a topic.

This story has it`s flaws. A woman that would clean up puke without complaint, then complains when he comes home the next morning just not realistic.
If she was such a loving wife, she would have been happy to see the man home safe and thrown herself into his arms.
FamilyRe: Is It A Good Idea To Employ My Sister In-law As My Personal Lawyer? by mutter(f): 10:07am On Feb 03, 2015
Certainly not.

She should not even accept such a job because there could be conflicting interest.
She can never give you professional advice in a situation that it might be to the disadvantage of her sister.
You also do not have any privacy again.
She also has the power to manipulate you documents in such a way that there are to your disadvantage.

The key word is that she has a VESTED INTEREST in your issues because of her sister and cannot be neutral.

She has to understand and respect that. You can brief her for specific cases or matters but certainly not as your personal lawyer.
FamilyRe: Homophobia! - Nature Or Nurture? by mutter(f):
[quote author=pcguru1 post=30378004][/quote]I will respect your right to believe whatever you want to believe.

When you see a mad man unclad on the road eating from the bin do you mean that man has lost his right to my respect?

Certainly not he gets my respect as a human, does not mean the trash has turned to steak and wine.
FamilyRe: I Need your Advice by mutter(f): 11:22pm On Feb 02, 2015
Well I must say you got what you deserved angry
FamilyRe: Homophobia! - Nature Or Nurture? by mutter(f): 11:13pm On Feb 02, 2015
carefreewannabe:
Ok, if one man has the right to be hete*rose*xual then another has the right to be against it, according to your logic. I love your logic sometimes.
Yes that is the way I see it and very often people say I know this gay couple and they are so nice. Well I visited a couple once and I almost threw up! Simply disgusting the kind of gadgets and devices they had lying around.
Also life style related health issues.
And yet they were utmost polite and very friendly. A great couple actually.
FamilyRe: Homophobia! - Nature Or Nurture? by mutter(f): 11:00pm On Feb 02, 2015
I think it is wrong to describe people by their sexual tendencies. That is a private thing and should be kept private.

However I fear that I live in a world where it is okay to be gay and evil to speak againt it.

If one man has a right to be gay, the other man has a right to be against it.

Respet both ways
FamilyRe: Whitney Houston's Daughter Found Unconcious In Bathtub. by mutter(f): 7:40pm On Feb 01, 2015
I do!
It just shows that money cannot bring happiness.
This child is a victim of her parents.
Poo girl she never really had a chance did she?
FamilyRe: I Want A Sugar Daddy by mutter(f): 7:37pm On Feb 01, 2015
Okay you want the mans money while the wife should take the rest cheesy
The same faith awaits you one day.
FamilyRe: Mummy Just Five Days by mutter(f): 7:35pm On Feb 01, 2015
She is but resting for a while!
Alive in the hearts of those that love her.
FamilyRe: Husbands Raping Their Wife's by mutter(f): 7:33pm On Feb 01, 2015
Sad i has to come to this. Where love exists both want each other just as much. When one is not ready the other can wait.

However some women can really starve their men or give them small or shallow portions.
FamilyRe: Breastfeeding Graduating Mum (Photo) by mutter(f): 7:29pm On Feb 01, 2015
When women pose in the nude no one comments, so what is the big deal with this!
I breastfed my kid`s anywhere anytime.
If you no like am commot your eye!
FamilyRe: Anyone Pregnant Going Through This Or With Experience,please Help!!! by mutter(f): 8:46pm On Jan 29, 2015
Juzzybabe:
Sometimes when I lie on the very side,and the vibration starts,I get so miserable and I wud just suddenly jump up in annoyance like warisdishuh !!! cheesy
Just don't know why most of our doctors of now usually don't have ideas of all this for God's sake. My gynecologist should have explain this to me to stop me from panicking but he instead recommended Gestid,well I told him I don't need gestid cuz I don't have heart burn. Thanks for the clarification dear,sometimes our fears can harm us faster than our problems itself. Its much easier to bear the discomfort knowing its cause.
I am like that too. Knowing what is wron is half the cure cheesy
Thanks thorpido for the information!
FamilyRe: Anyone Pregnant Going Through This Or With Experience,please Help!!! by mutter(f): 1:04pm On Jan 29, 2015
thorpido:
It's basically a musculoskeletal pain.It's quite common with pregnancy.
Pregnancy hormones make your tissues to stretch and when that happens,it puts pressure on other structures especially the nerves.When the nerves are pinched,they cause a discomfort.The vibrations you feel are called spasms-the muscles 'shake'.

What you should do is get a balm.Massage the area frequently and anytime you feel the pain.Also you will need to change your position from sitting as that position pushes pressure up from the big belly.You can lie flat at that time if you can.

Physio.
Gosh no one could explain this to me in Germany. Told me it was from the baby stretching, nerves etc.
FamilyRe: Please Advice by mutter(f): 11:05pm On Jan 28, 2015
You mean you did not notice this while dating him.
This man is a chronic womanizer!
You put the ring on his finger not his P embarassed
FamilyRe: Dear Family, A Depressed Soul Needs Your Advice. by mutter(f): 11:00pm On Jan 28, 2015
koyyess:
Sorry, but we are not on the page because I do not see how accepting a run away ex husband gives any woman more respect. I don't know the op's mother but from her story, I already have a high regard for her mother who single handedly took care of her kids in hard times. Her mum could have as well abandoned them under the bridge like some have but she didn't so tell me if that does not depict a woman of honor already.I'm not saying the both of them shouldn't forgive the op's dad but a lot has happened before now so you do not make such personal decisions for a woman who has been through hell.
What Hell? They are her kid`s!
married or not if you know that you cannot raise your kid`s alone don`t bother having them. You can only rely on yourself.

What has she gone through that many other women have not gone through!
All the more reason she deserves to have the man beside her now.
No matter how she struggled a single woman/ single parent does not have the same respect as a married woman , not in Nigeria and not in most other cultures.

Left to the woman she would probably happily take the man in, probably the kid`s are stopping it.
FamilyRe: Anyone Pregnant Going Through This Or With Experience,please Help!!! by mutter(f): 10:55pm On Jan 28, 2015
It could also be wind - similar to heart burn.
I was able to find some links too
http://www.nomorepanic.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-110491.html

Depend what you give in . I googled - bubble sensation under my left rib.

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