 Christianity Etc › Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by MuttleyLaff: 6:25pm On Aug 15, 2020*. Modified: 4:31am On Aug 16, 2020 |
Righteousness89:
Anyone seeing the Events Rocking and Shaking the Universe should know that The Event of the Snatching away of the Saint also known as the Rapture is upon us. It could be any Moment..
Having said that I don't believe in Setting dates.
I Just Know it is Right Upon us. It could be any Moment!
Get Ready Folks!
Live Ready Folks!
Ignore and Do away with the Scoffers and Sons of Belai! They are also Fufilling The Endtimes Prophecies.. "“Indeed,” declares the LORD, “I am against those who prophesy false dreams
and retell them to lead My people astray with their reckless lies.
It was not I who sent them or commanded them,
and they are of no benefit at all to these people,” declares the LORD."
- Jeremiah 23:32
The word rapture is not at all anywhere in the Bible |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by MuttleyLaff: 6:19pm On Aug 15, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:
If it happens, I will deactivate my account.
We still have at least 7+ years before anything like rapture happens. Circa 7 years, you my dear sire your head dey there |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by MuttleyLaff: 6:13pm On Aug 15, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:
According to Jesus Christ, those who are led by AntiChrist spirits are those who claim to be of Him but do not obey His commandments and teachings. Your many MOGs who pretend to stand on the side of God yet at every opportunity do whatever they can to being ridicule to His name are better antichrist candidates than Trump could ever dream being or becoming. Notice how only those in the Christian world like to associate themselves with the character. The world does not want to have anything to do with him.
Anyway, I see the rapture, according to you is meant to take place sometime in October and how in November as well. Ok. Looking forward to experiencing both then. "Little children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming,
even now many antichrists have arisen, whereby we know that it is the last hour."
- 1 John 2:18
I know we are all biblically literate enough to spot the distinction and suss out the difference between Antichrist and antichrists, so wont bother going to flesh them out, except for, give an abridged roll call of the antichrists. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs RIP, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Ren Zhengfei, please stand up and that's to name just a few elites ones. Now, I would advance that the fruit of the TKGE was eaten by A&E at the last hour and judgment followed suit after the last hour. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Rapture Within 3 Months Confirmed. (around The USA 2020 Election.) by MuttleyLaff: 5:51pm On Aug 15, 2020 |
Kei144:
The YouTube video is coded. The poster didn't clearly explain how he got the information he presented in the video, but the information is seriously noteworthy.
A few years ago, not up to ten years, I actually saw the AC in a dream. In that dream, I saw myself with fellow Africans and I understood that we wanted to cross what should be the Mediterranean Sea to get to Europe. My target was to get to Germany. Then I saw myself with a few other people in a small open boat crossing the water. By the time we were at the middle of the water, we were intersected by another small boat carrying two white VIPs that were not wearing any shirt. They were a little fat and not young. They were moving in an easterly direction, while the boat I was in was moving in northeasterly direction. After the boat with the two VIPs passed, another small boat carrying some security people accosted us and the security people turned us back to the Africa side.
As I watched the video above, the dream came back to me. For the first time, I considered the possibility that Trump could be the AC. If I had seen Trump's photo before the dream, I would have known if it was Trump that I saw. The faces that I saw in the dream are now hazy to me, so I cannot match them with Trump's face. Moreover, the two VIPs were topless and were sitting in the open small boat; if they were standing and fully dressed it would have been easier to match what I saw with Trump. What specific mark(s) gave you the inclination and conviction that it was the AC you saw in the dream? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by MuttleyLaff: 5:39pm On Aug 15, 2020 |
Danhoys:
You were never an atheist to begin with. Every human being was born an atheistDanhoys:
Secondly, your religious view of homosexuality is not valid for as long as it tramples on human right. It tramples not just on human rights, but also on a man/woman's biblical rights to exercise, demonstrate and/or practise agape loveDanhoys:
Your God endorsed slavery, but slavery is a hideous crime you dare not meddle with today. "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle,
and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth"
- Genesis 1:26
God, is just as much his/her God, as He is your God. God is a universal God, who is God of the universe, whether you acknowledge this or not. This is truth, just as is like the sun. You can shut it out for as along as you want, but it doesnt mean the sun's gone or is going away
God, right from the beginning never endorsed slavery. Slavery, dominating a fellow human being, having superiority over a fellow human was never in the plan of God. Slavery, just as like infidelity, treachery, deceitfulness et cetera, is one the end results of what happened as a consequence of the original sin or of the blatant disregard for the law of God, (i.e. the action taken by A&E in disregarding God's expressed warning word)
From Genesis 1:26 above, it is very evident, who man was to rule, who man was to dominate, who man was to subjugate, what to master, to control or to bring under yoke et cetera or even from Exodus 21:16 below, we see that, man was not meant to enslave or make a subordinate of his fellow human being. It is because of the fallen world we live in that God tolerated slavery, polygamy, certain biblically recorded lies or deception et cetera and some of these aberrations, were endured by God, because it doesnt diminish His omnipotence when let happen, and for another main reason of that they were endured because God, doesnt lose control, He is forever in control and that everything works together for God's purpose(s)Danhoys:
Seems human laws or rather, human right always prevail at the end of the day. "Whoever kidnaps someone, either to sell him
or to keep him as a slave, is to be put to death"
- Exodus 21:16
Human laws or rather, human rights are refused, trampled upon, abused, violated, withdrawn, ignored, denied et cetera but divinely ordained God expected end always has the last laugh.
If the weightier matters, like having to do justice, extending mercy, to love kindness, walk humbly before God and having faith in God, are not neglected, then there wouldn't be issues with human rightsDanhoys:
Currently, religion is on life support. You guys will be lucky to survive another decade. People are waking up! The religion that is on life support, is religion that is not pure and is defiled, in such a manner that God doesnt approve. in as much as believers have breath in them, pure and undefiled religion is here to stay up to the trumpet sound blast |
| Crime › Re: Serial Killer Arrested In Ohafia, Abia State (Disturbing Photos) by MuttleyLaff: 1:34pm On Aug 15, 2020 |
AbamOnyerubi:
One of the Perpetrators in the Ritual Killing of late Ime Odo who is on the payroll of Ifekwe Udo Emetu, alias fada who introduced himself as Ukpai Eke from Biakpan in Cross River State who was arrested on Thursday, August 13 by the security agents*
An employee of Mr Ifekwe udo Emetu aka, fada fada, Mr Ukpai Eke was arrested on August 13, 2020 after being on the wanted list for a case of murder of late Mr Ime Odo on July 25.
He confessed of the brutal murder act as well as working on the pay roll of Ifekwe Udo.
According to him, his gang hired the services of the motorcycle ridder and took him to Ukwa between Abia Ohafia and Ukwa Mbiabong in Cross River State where they murdered him with axe and took away his motorcycle which he was meant to complete payment two weeks to his employer- Ifekwe Udo.
He went further to confess that, this is what they have been doing for years and whenever this assignment is concluded, the motorcycle will be sent back to Ifekwe whom they addressed as Fada, the Lucifer. He, Ifekwe will rebrand the motorcycle tank and seat and give it out again under hire purchase to other loyalists as a new brand.
According to the killer squard, this exercise has lingered and remained uncovered for many years.
He went further to confess that this is not his first time of involvement in this dastardly act but pleaded for forgiven.
He said that many other members of the killers gang are scattered everywhere within Ohafia and its environs.
May God Have Mercy on us.... Omihanifa:
Do t know why people still believe they can only get rich by killing another human being for rituals The victims were not killed for rituals but were killed just before finishing payments of the hire purchase agreement by a greedy "godfather" known as "Fada Fada" and this lowlife of a human being, who have both made this a practice of getting rich by hook or by crook, not minding the sanctity of human life |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by MuttleyLaff: 11:23pm On Aug 14, 2020*. Modified: 11:40pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
Anas09:
Hell is not hellfire. Hell is a holding place for the wicked and those who rejected Christ awaiting judgement. But, hellfire is the final destination where the condemned wicked souls will end after the Judgement
MuttleyLaff:
Hell or better put, Hades, actually is a Greek concept, the Jews have no concept of Hell or Hades
they have sheol, alright but the concept of Hell or Hades, is a Greek one.
Sheol is more of a proper and real biblical Israelite concept of where the dead are ''interned.'' Sheol in an oversimplified or elementary manner can be grave or has been referred as grave
Grave/tomb/sepulchre sites are merely places of deposit for a corpse. Sheol is the realm of the dead or departed souls
- Souls do not linger in the air. Souls do not stay in limbo. Souls do not hang about. Souls do not make revisits
Until Jesus in the NT, Sheol in general, without necessarily distinguishing between righteous or unrighteous souls, has been the realm of the dead or abode of the dead
We have verses in OT (e.g. Psalm 9:17 etcetera) suggesting that the wicked go to Sheol but it was Jesus in the NT that brought things into perspective when he shared the hyperbolic illustration of Sheol with the story of the Rich Man being elsewhere and Abraham with the Poor Man being on a different side. Remember just like because you're telling a joke, it doesnt necessarily mean, the joke is devoid of some element of truth and reality, so is the case with the parable of the rich man and poor man.
Sheol (i.e. the original Hebrew concept of afterlife) now has gray lines shared with Gehenna (i.e. the refuse dump in Jerusalem hyperbolically referred to by Jesus in Matthew 5:29 Matthew 18:9 and Mark 9:47) and Hell (i.e. a Greek mythology and Greek concept of afterlife) which arent really understood. The etymology of afterlife from a Jewish concept (i.e. Sheol, with 2 sections) has changed over time and Sheol, since, has being interchangeably replaced with Gehenna and Hell/Hades
Reiterating, hell which has become synonymous with Hades, is neither Hebrew or Greek in origin
Sheol is, what you'll find in the original Hebrew text for any word for Hell. In other places, Hades or Hell was the Greek substitution for the part of Sheol where the Rich man is from the Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus
As a matter of fact, Hell, actually finds it roots in the classic Greek mythology, Hades, where Hades interestingly and actually, was the ancient Greek god of the underworld. This god's name (i.e. Hades) later turned to mean the place or abode of the dead, which actually is exactly what Sheol is, what is signifies or represents.
Talking about Gehenna, well it is a valley, a valley in Jerusalem, used as a dumping refuse site and so was used by Jesus to depict the Lake of fire (i.e. it is a place of destruction, as in, via incineration, a place for destroying things)
As earlier mentioned, Gehenna was the incinerating refuse dump in Jerusalem. Hades however, historically and originally is the name of a Greek god until it got turned to meaning the place or abode of the dead. It later got interchanged with hell, which is from a German word root. It was bible translators who were substituing the original Hebrew word Sheol (i.e. the part where the dead of the Rich man sort are), with Greek counterparts Hades/Hell that made hell stick with us today
Death is not a physical person but it will cease to exist because it will be destroyed when figuratively thrown into a physical lake of fire
MuttleyLaff:
I thought as much, that likely that's how and where you gathered your understanding and knowledge of and about hell from
Hell or better put, Hades, actually is a Greek concept, the Jews have no concept of Hell or Hades
they have Sheol, alright but as earklier said, the concept of Hell or Hades is a Greek one.
I like your cautious rendition of Hell, which in the real or proper sense, actually is the Lake of Fire, otherwise, called the second death
Interesting.
In Yoruba spirituality, there is the absence of a concept of sin
Doubly interesting.
In Yoruba spirituality, there is the absence eternal damnation or some kind of jidgdment after the end of the world.
By the way, thanks for your earlier question responses, but wow, what, as you've come to know, learn and understand, is sin?
If you explain what it is, maybe, it will make understanding its absence in Yoruba spiritualityand why Yoruba spirituality happens to be hell agnostic
Hmm, so Orisha is a spirit that represents the manifestation of the Supreme Authority
Please share more light on Orisha and the Supreme Authority
1/ Kindly explain in details, how does Orisha, as a spirit, represent the manifestation of the Supreme Authority?
What manifesting/manifested Supreme Authority, is Orisha representing?
2/ What is the Supreme Authority?
Does the Supreme Authority have a name the Supreme Authority is known by?
3/ What is Orisha known as, called or name?
4/ Is there just one or there are more than one Orisha?
5a/ Why does Orisha have to or need to be a deity among the Yoruba or any other people for that matter?
5b/ Is this exclusive to the Yoruba only, as in, a privilege not extended to non Yorubas " Mafo, ajẹbẹ, ẹni duro" cc: chatinent, OpenYourEyes1, delkuf, BackllGodNaija, |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How I viewed Homosexuality back then as an Athiest, and Now by MuttleyLaff: 11:23pm On Aug 14, 2020*. Modified: 9:27am On Aug 15, 2020 |
OpenYourEyes1:
By the way, I wasn't really fully athiest back then. I usually switch between "athiesm" to "believing in a GOD that is more superior to Christian GOD". The hypocrisy among those I thought served the true GOD was unbearable to me. I just needed a kind, tolerant, non-violent, non-human like GOD(the worldly images of so called God really affected my view too). I thought GOD should be Spirit and everywhere & not like human. Presently, I have discovered that HE is more than what I expected back then. HE is more than wonderful, kind, loving, caring and other good things you can think of
My View on Homosexuality
I accepted lots of secular views back then, like legalizing homosexuality, abortion, fornication etc even though I didn't think deep into their advantages and disadvantages. I hated the idea of men touching men though, I just tolerated their freedom to do whatever they want (as long as they don't hurt anyone). I wanted to be considered "civilized" back then and avoid being part of "hateful christains"
There was a former president who made me to be a bit cautious. I wondered why he was so focused on homosexuality and trying to impose it on nations when there are other human rights abuses he should be more focused on too.
Now I think I know why they want lots of people to be homosexual. I was too naive and thoroughly decieved back them.
The Word of GOD is 100% true. Truely repent of your sins and get baptized to understand the gem the world is missing. Always believe while reading. 1/ Who intrinsically, in one word and/or encapsulating in one word, is God? 2/ What are the three things that will last forever and what is the greatest out of these things? Once you correctly give the answers to the two questions above, how really you view homosexuality will clearly be seen. cc: Danhoys |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by MuttleyLaff: 8:08am On Aug 14, 2020*. Modified: 9:38am On Aug 14, 2020 |
Janosky:
Romans 1:18-32
God's Wrath on Unrighteousness
18 For (AJ)the wrath of God (AK)is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be (AL)known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, (AM)have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[g] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they (AN)became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 (AO)Claiming to be wise, they became fools, [/b]23 and (AP)exchanged the glory of (AQ)the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
[b]24 Therefore (AR)God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to (AS)the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, [/b]25 because they exchanged the truth about God for (AT)a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, (AU)who is blessed forever! Amen.
[b]26 For this reason (AV)God gave them up to (AW)dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, (AX)men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, (AY)God gave them up to (AZ)a debased mind to do (BA)what ought not to be done. [/b]29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32[b] Though they know (BB)God's righteous decree that those who practice such things (BC)deserve to die, they not only do them but (BD)give approval to those who practice them.
Footnotes.
Homosexuality (A.K.A sodomy) is FORBIDDEN by Jehovah God. Emphasis on verses 26-28.
It is contrary to nature.
Flee from the satanic GIBBERISH dey claim is 'alternative lifestyle' Janosky, you havent the chutzpah to please with a clear and clean conscience, say you have examined and inspected particularly Romans 1:25-27 closely and thoroughly enough to do a 2 Timothy 2:15 rightly handling the word of truth and correctly handle the word of truth about the verses.
I am 10000% sure that you haven't the ability nor capacity, to do an exegesis of Romans 1:25-27, that's enough to the point where you are able to explain and interpret the verses in such a way, that a two year old would understand.
Janosky & Co, what is happening and/or what happened in Romans 1:25-28? Well, for your information Janosky & Co, Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27 are a rehash of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 with a twist
Paul, with Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27, is echoing what happened around when the original Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 were given. He then added the twist (i.e. Romans 1:26b: ... for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against their nature or change to what is against what's natural to them) which is, the women too, have joined to be participants in the ongoing "detestable customs practised" earlier used be done exclusively by the men alone before.
All this and all are new information to you Janosky & Co, I know. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by MuttleyLaff: 8:05am On Aug 14, 2020*. Modified: 9:28am On Aug 15, 2020 |
Acehart:
Muttleylaff, you can be abrasive sometimes, maybe most times. Except you provide occasions where and when I have been abrasive, then I will call this remark as idle talk, slander and insultingAcehart:
You need to be gentle especially when you taste the air and sense that the other person isn’t a marathoner. Sigh and smh, please provide when and where on this thread that I have not been mild, kind, tender, easy going et ceteraAcehart:
I just found out yesterday that I have ninety-one people directly under me; that means I have had close to one-hundred and twenty in the past four years, wow! many of them are uneducated or at best o’ level certified; the one thing that wins them to accept new ideas or make an improvement to work is love - modesty, brotherliness, sensitivity and gentleness - with this approach, I have spoken to many about sin, the scriptures and Christ, unopposed. This approach, when followed, has never failed. I am not one keen on blowing my horn, so, I am not going to be dragged into blowing my horn about the good successes of my approach(es). Be my guest, if you feel the urge to more, thump your chest, blow your trumpet and like a Pharisee, honk the horn about your self-admiration, narcissism, positive results and triumphs Acehart:
Please think about this approach when you are here on NL. "Jesus told Nicodemus,
"You're a well-known teacher of Israel. Can't you understand this?
(i.e. Are you a teacher of Israel and don't know these things?)"
- John 3:10
Please think of Jesus' approach engaging with Nicodemus and think of Jesus' approach engaging the sectarian Pharisees (i.e. Far-to-see) and Sadducees (i.e. Sad-to-see)
Midwives, assist in pushing, to help, to bring out. Midwives don't deliver, its the mother who does the actual delivery by herself, with the midwife, acting as cheerleader, encouraging the mother to be, to take in deep breaths and hard pushes. The midwife doesnt pluck a baby out of thin air, but she hands back to the brand newly mother, after being briefly cleaned up, the baby she herself pushed out, after so many deep breaths, grunts, deep hard pushes and attemptsAcehart:
NL isn’t a forum of theological debate or superiority ... What I see written here is is nothing other than a load of balderdash., if it isn't, why and where from then, did you get the imagination that anyone sees NL to be a forum for theological debate or superiority. Huh? Acehart:
... NL is like Oshodi Bus-Stop on a Monday morning - don’t expect anything good. The sense of entitlement on this thread, without wanting to do the heavy lifting work themselves, is a pitiful, despairing and not good at all sight to behold.
I didnt have any "NL is like Oshodi Bus-Stop on a Monday morning" expectation, you need to cross-check if you dont remember that, I was minding my business, before being harpooned and heckled by OP, the pseudo inquiring mind and the other mischief-maker, who joined in to mention me. The trio, executed as a party, to derail the thread
When my posts are posted, interlocutors shouldn't again, ever, automatically mention me in them. Better still, dont even, ever consider reading them, talkless respond to any, because most interlocutors, just chomp my posts, biting off far more than they can chew, this apart from, trying to take in, that which is, too difficult for weak stomachs to handle and will only end up with having stomach severe pains Acehart:
You should be like a grinding stone that sharpens a dull edge rather than a guillotine in a workshop. I take my cue from the Holy Spirit prompt, so I would be however I am lead by the Holy Spirit to be. I sigh and smh at you, because I cant be more than a grinding stone that's sharpening a dull edge than I already have been. As for "guillotine in a workshop." that is utter poppycock because I have been gentle, understanding, coaxing as I could ever be, and without so much of never unsheathing my dagger.Acehart:
When you turn on your keyboard to respond, please provide the specifics of why God was not happy or pleased about and how why. I’d really appreciate it. If you think I am going to provide any the specifics of why God was not happy or pleased about and how why, on a platter of gold, without youse making any effort to pull out the fingers, lift up the hood yourselves and poke head in to see what's under, then, appreciate that, you'll have another thing coming. The lover of inquiry must follow his/her beloved wherever it may lead him/her, and not just complacently park in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 or 2 Kings 18:4 and 2 Kings 23:7 verses.
I'll tell you what you really would appreciate. You will appreciate that the German bible was first translated or written before any ever English Bible, was written/translated. So why not start from appreciating what really you'll find out about how Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 were written up, in the German Bibles from the 1800s. That should set you off, to intriguingly have the urge, to dig further deeper, to see what else in the Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 somewhat mystery, is waiting for you to solve and correctly explain with sound biblical exegesisAcehart:
Thank you. I appreciate your hollow thank you, but no thank youcc: Danhoys |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by MuttleyLaff: 12:28pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
Acehart:
The two of you will wear yourselves soon. Friend, to help you answer his question (He has been clear on his position from his explanation from the book of Proverbs and the “abominations before the Lord”. It is important you understand the latter to understand what those verses in Leviticus meant), please study deeply 2 Kings 18:4 and especially 2 Kings 23:7. Please, have in mind those words - ‘abominations before the Lord’ and defile “Holiness” or defile a “Holy Place or People”. Thank you dear beloved brother for this your seasoned, matured, objective and Berean approach to this, with Dtruthseeker, not at all living up to the essence of what his/her moniker ID means or conveys
Matters like this isn't sprint, but is marathon, and as an experienced marathon runner, there's no way, I'll get wore down. It is very obvious that Dtruthseeker, hasn't 2 Timothy 2:15 deeply studied Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. I am going methodical here and have the power to do this. It is, by the grace of God, soft work.
The 2 Kings 18:4 and 2 Kings 23:7 verses, are related to what Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 is talking about, but they dont give the specifics of what in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, is God not happy or pleased about and how whyMaximus69:
You will all continue to argue and argue and argue amongst yourselves because none of you wants to be OBEDIENT!
God's people are one and we're all submissive to those leading his earthly Organization, as long as you're not ready to recognize those sent by Jesus to organise his earthly followers, you will continue to argue and argue and argue fruitlessly within yourselves! Philippians 2:14; Colossians 2:4; 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9  You of course, know, I don't do arguments. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: IFA Religion Initiation Steps (Yorubas Only) by MuttleyLaff: 12:16pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
PAGAN9JA:
You dont deserve civilized words. www.nairaland.com/attachments/10799974_images_jpeg6_jpegd773813b37aa32df9b6e92f9ec8c41d7 As much as I am more than capable of giving as good as I get, I restrain myself from jumping into the muddy mire and give you the pleasure, you so desperately want to savourPAGAN9JA:
Actually people like you dont deserve to live in civilization because you have no resprct for others beliefs. Is it because I typed that certain things mandatory in If a aren't necessary is why computed that I have no respect for others' beliefs, hmm?PAGAN9JA:
You are the pathetic arseholes of the society who brought Nigeria to its current state of ruin today. I can see you're a super ultra pathetic jerk with your head stuck right up your stinking and putrefying arsehole  PAGAN9JA:
Your jesus is dead and he was a bastard son of a prostitute dont forget that as well. He can never be a god. Lies, blasphemy and slander wouldn't gain you anythingPAGAN9JA:
He claimed to save us but he and his dirty religion has turned the world into a bigger mess spreading strife and religious discord. Man has himself to blame for the state and condition of the world, man finds himself inPAGAN9JA:
As for proof go read your bible dont ask me silly questions. You have no proof, that could be placed under close scrutiny and scholarly examination, this is why you dont dare providing proof to back up your ignorant statementPAGAN9JA:
jesus is dead while our Spirits are forever present in the spiritual realm. The Gods can never die or be alive. That is only for humans like jesus. Yahshua Ha Mashiach, aka Jesus Christ, is very much alive, when you draw your last breath, your spirit (i.e your ''ẹmi'') goes back to God, your body (i.e your ''ara'') goes back to being the dust of the ground, but your soul (i.e your ''ori'') goes to a place awaiting the day of judgment, when you'll give account of reckless word, thought, action, deeds et cetera, you did or did not do
Sango, Osun, Oya, Esu, Egbe, Ogun, Obatala, Olokun, Iyemonja et cetera as well, will face God in the day of judgment too |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Bishop Oyedepo: Don't Claim Ownership Of God's Church by MuttleyLaff: 9:25am On Aug 13, 2020 |
olabodejinad:
you talk like one who is brainwashed. you already said he should live by the proceeds, where does it mention for him to lavish the money he claims is meant for God, in what universe is a private jet necessary or even worse still. two jets. not even one. I pray you be delivered from the bandage you are under cos if you cant see the errors of your leaders. you forgetting that they are humans and capable of sin as much as most of us are, then you really need help. I am a Muslim and I can categorically say that there are clerics. lots of them who I can never believe a word they say cos they are frauds, same way it is in other religions. You need to put your brain in gear when next you pull your fingers out in motion to type so to prevent you from saying anyone is brainwashed. Where did you read in OP or from me that anyone is permitted to indulge in lavish lifestyles at the cost of other people's sweat, blood and hard work.
I don't give a foxtrot uniform charlie kilo what your belief system is or what your faith is, so keep the unsolicited info up where the sun don't shine |
| Christianity Etc › Re: IFA Religion Initiation Steps (Yorubas Only) by MuttleyLaff: 7:34am On Aug 13, 2020 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: IFA Religion Initiation Steps (Yorubas Only) by MuttleyLaff: 7:31am On Aug 13, 2020 |
illicit:
u don't need a religion to believe in God. God explicitly inform the kind of religion He approvesillicit:
I believe in God but not religion I didnt, not even for a nanosecond, doubt that you dont believe in God
illicit:
That CAN chairman knows these verses u shared too, don't u think so? [img] https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img] I would expect he knows those verses and more, so the point you are trying to make with this remark is then what? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: IFA Religion Initiation Steps (Yorubas Only) by MuttleyLaff: 7:17am On Aug 13, 2020*. Modified: 7:39am On Aug 13, 2020 |
illicit:
let Boko Haram catch u, that's when u will know u ain't get any power "7A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand; But it shall not come near you.
8Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.
9Because you have made the Lord, who is my refuge,
Even the Most High, your dwelling place,
10No evil shall befall you,
Nor shall any plague come near your dwelling;
11For He shall give His angels charge over you,
To keep you in all your ways.
12In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.
13You shall tread upon the lion and the cobra,
The young lion and the serpent you shall trample underfoot.
14“Because he has set his love upon Me, therefore I will deliver him;
I will set him on high, because he has known My name.
15He shall call upon Me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him and honor him.
16With long life I will satisfy him, And show him My salvation.”"
- Psalm 97:7-16
Notwithstanding, "whatever can happen, will happen," I stand by and on the entirety of the Psalm 97:7-16 words explicitly stated with assurance, as seen above. Exmilitant:
Sad to see Africans maligning their own in favour of a foriegn one that don't care about them.. I am happy to know that the Yoruba has an organized religion. The Igbos and those of us from the Niger Delta have lost it! And i belief they are the ones poking fun at the OP. I dont have jazz, dont have juju, dont have need of Sango, Osun, Oya, Esu, Egbe, Ogun, Obatala, Olokun, Iyemonja, Saponna et cetera deities, it is the, one and true universal God that is my reliance, confidence and faith is on.
Aside that made by illicit, I am struggling to find any other comment made on this thread, that's poked fun at OP or anyone's belief system, for that matter |
| Christianity Etc › Re: IFA Religion Initiation Steps (Yorubas Only) by MuttleyLaff: 6:59am On Aug 13, 2020 |
illicit:
ur audacity is what baffles me The boldness is down to not being given the spirit of timidity or fear but given that of love, power and a sound mind to make right/good judgment(s)illicit:
u are a human being like me, yet u want to force ur very own malady on me. You're absolutely right that, I am human just as you are, but thhe last thing you'll ever find me do is force, so you are wrong in reasoning that I am forcing anything on you.illicit:
What makes u think u need a religion Religion, that's pure and undefiled, makes the world go round, it makes the engine of the world run smoothly, it alleviates suffering, problems, pains, social ills, injustice et cetera |
| Christianity Etc › Re: IFA Religion Initiation Steps (Yorubas Only) by MuttleyLaff: 6:58am On Aug 13, 2020 |
PAGAN9JA:
Shut up. Excuse me. Would you please mind your choice of words, language and start typing like a matured mind that I perceive that you are
PAGAN9JA:
You want us to worship a dead jewish man or what? Sango, Osun, Oya, Esu, Egbe, Ogun, Obatala, Olokun, Iyemonja deities are dead, but God forever, is alive and livesPAGAN9JA:
A powerless self-proclaimed deity who couldn't even save himself. He had to cry and beg God to save him. Please bring forward your proof of Yahshua Ha Mashiach, crying and begging God to save Him.
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Rome, Bantus And The Demon- White Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 3:51am On Aug 13, 2020 |
donnie:
Thunder fire white Jesus. That image is already cursed. I am only declaring the judgements already written. You can't curse with thunder, as if, like pagans, heathens and/or idolaters cursing with thunder, what does not exist.
There is no recorded account of a white skinned Jesus in scripture, same as there is no recorded account of a black skinned Jesus in scripture, so you're just being ignorant, unnecessarily wasting your breath making "Thunder fire white Jesus" illogical ranting and raving statements upandan the forum
I doubt you, at all, see anything good in whites. I dont suppose you see yourself, at same level of whites, but instead, you see yourself as being superior to whites. As far as you are concerned, whites are inferior to you, are despicable, evil, corrupt, wicked et cetera. Aren't my to the point summary, all that, all correct, hmm? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: IFA Religion Initiation Steps (Yorubas Only) by MuttleyLaff: 3:42am On Aug 13, 2020 |
illicit:
lol I don't have a religion anymore You actually and really need to have religion. You need to have pure and undefiled religion, the sort of religion, that God finds no fault in. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: IFA Religion Initiation Steps (Yorubas Only) by MuttleyLaff: 3:28am On Aug 13, 2020 |
PAGAN9JA:
IFA & ORISA INITIATION
There are several steps that may be taken on the road to Ifa Initiation.
ISEFA : This is when you receive your one hand of Ifa and protection Ide for your wrist. This is a preliminary step to initiation for those who want to receive the shrine of Ifa but are not ready to gain full initiation. This give a person access to Ifa for weekly prayer request, communication, to be able to give offerings to Ifa, etc.
ITEFA : Itefa is full initiation to Ifa. When Initiating to Ifa you will usually prepare ahead of time for travel to Nigeria with your spiritual family, Babalawo and Iyanifa who will come together with other members of the community in Nigeria who will take you through the process to receive the rituals, rites, ceremonies to consecrate your spirit with the spirit of Ifa.
ORISA INITIATION : Orisa Initiation crowns you to the Ase of the Orisa and their spiritual characteristics by placing their power into your spirit via your Ori. Prior to Orisa initiation and after, an Orisa devotee is dedicated to connecting with their shrines and learning and growing in the wisdom of the Orisa. A reading is usually done early on to see which Orisa governs your Ori (inner spirit/head) or it may be revealed through general divination. This gives insight to the Orisa that is very important for you to connect to spiritually. Many times one may receive the shrine of their Orisa prior to Initiation to begin the process of communicating with their Orisa and developing a more personal relationship. The Initiation ceremony to any Orisa is an act of being reborn into a new role/life that brings about necessary and positive changes in your life leading you to the path of achieving your most positive destiny. Initiation to Orisa will be done under the guidance of your Babalorisa and/or Iyalorisa. You will travel with them to Nigeria for at least a week to embark on your journey to Initiation.
ORISA INITIATION IS OFFERED FOR THE FOLLOWING ORISA
Sango, Osun, Oya, Esu, Egbe, Ogun, Obatala, Olokun, Iyemonja, etc.
Whichever deity you believe matches your aura.
If you belong to other tribes, consult your elders about your tribes traditional religion and get yourself initiated in your respective native societies. There is no need to travel anywhere, there is no need of hocus-pocus, hence no need of babalawo or iyanifa, there is no need of blindfolding, there is no need for face and/or body paints, there is no need of ritualising, there is no of initiation ceremony(ies), there is no need for Sango, Osun, Oya, Esu, Egbe, Ogun, Obatala, Olokun, Iyemonja, Saponna et cetera deities to match your aura, because you just come to God, the Lord God, who is One, simply just the way, you are, just stay put wherever you are, without any need of travelling anywhere and the beauty, is that, you also have no need of any gods/deities before Him
Sango, Osun, Oya, Esu, Egbe, Ogun, Obatala, Olokun, Iyemonja, Saponna et cetera deities dont promise anyone salvation of their souls (i.e. "ori" in Yoruba mythology is soul), they dont and havent promised to, forever, fix and resolve the scourge of sin, death, sickness, sorrow, affliction, hurt, pain et cetera finally or once and for all |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by MuttleyLaff: 2:37am On Aug 13, 2020*. Modified: 4:28am On Aug 13, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:
Leviticus 18 has settled all your questions without leaving any unanswered.
God Listed the conducts He Abhors! Verses 6-23
verses 24-29. God says these conducts defile Holiness.
24 Defile not ye yourselves in Any of These Things: (Why?) for in all these, the nations are defiled, which I cast out before you:
25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit Any of These Abominations; {Not One as you implied) neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
27 For All These Abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;
28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.
29 For whosoever shall commit Any of These abominations, {Not One as you implied) even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.
And verse 30 simply re-iterates the Prohibition of the doing of Any One of this conducts or Acts or practices or Custom.
God has answered all your questions and There is No Defence for the Practice of what is called today, homosexuality. [img] https://s7/images/1387e5bfc2695c608bf7c75da7345974--lgbt-rights-lgbt-humor.jpg[/img] "He went on to say,
Pay attention to what you're listening to!
(i.e. Pay close attention to what you hear)
[Knowledge] (i.e. facts, vital pieces of information) will be measured out to you by the measure [of attention] you give.
(i.e. The closer you listen, the more understanding you will be given--and you will receive even more.)
This is the way knowledge increases"
- Mark 4:24
Being gay, is like being left handed. Just as some people are left handed, so, some people aren't.
Aside epigenetic, (i.e. I believe you watched the video, I earlier shared above there about epigenetic) and the matter of least knowledge, of, thats just the way things are, nobody really knows why, same sex attraction exists, except for, it's part of the dividends of us living in an imperfect world and that, God, in His infinite wisdom allow it and so it is that, there is nothing abnormal in two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other in a beautiful lasting life-long, loyal and most importantly, monogamous, same-sex relationship, free of hate, free of lust, free of envy et cetera and that has no detriment, injury, damage, harm to each other, no betrayal of each other, or no cheating on each other, and not causing hurt to each other, another person, an animal, object or neighbour
Now, if truly, you are a real deal, truth seeker, that you like to be identified to be, then a truth rhetorical question, I'll ask you Dtruthseeker will be. Is it possible, that love can be extraordinary, that there is love wonderful and passing the love of women? Of course, yes, for some, there is and this even, is a biblical fact.
Dtruthseeker, if blanket homosexuality is an abomination, thank God, it isn't blanket homosexuality, not homosexuality per se, that is an abomination, but then, if it was or let's say for the sake of your "Dtruthseeker argument" it is, then isnt it, just as bad as being a liar? Isn't it just as bad as telling lies and/or lying, hmm?
If hypothetically speaking, it is that, homosexuality is a sin and/or an abomination, then why are people behaving in unpleasant ways towards homosexual(s) exclusively? Why are homosexuals singled out to bear/take/suffer et cetera the brunt of discrimination, hatred, violence, humiliation, being physically harmed/assaulted, fear of their lives etcetera, huh? Is it because some section of believers, think that they are more important than they really are, when compared with fellow human beings, who by no choice of theirs, except for epigenetics, have same sex attraction, similarly like having to be lefthanded, hmm? If hypothetically speaking, it is that, homosexuality is a sin and/or an abomination, then a liar would just be as sinful as a homosexual, right? Imagine liars, condemning monogamous till death part them, homosexuals. Smh. KMT.
The hypocrisy stinks to high heaven, especially when I suspect believers like you Dtruthseeker, enjoy eating sumptuous, luxurious meal delicacies, the likes of, lobsters, bush meats et cetera or having your lovable crab soup, shrimps, prawns, cray fish, point and kill cat fish, pepperoni in pizza, belly pork et cetera, and here you are disproportionately, illogically and out of context, busy talking of abomination. Sigh and smh. The abomination context, in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 is so incredibly important, but you just cant get yourself to 2 Timothy 2:15 dig deeper and fact check the verses |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Rome, Bantus And The Demon- White Jesus by MuttleyLaff: 8:44pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
donnie:
Thunder fire white Jesus Image123:
Shior. Your Jesus did not deliver you from your caustic tongue. Wondering what he's done for you besides a youtube channel. donnie:
Thunder fire that image of the beast ROME KMT. Cursing with thunder, just as if like, being a typical idolater and heathen. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Does The Bible Say About Obedience? by MuttleyLaff: 8:31pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:
 I am thankful to have had a contention with you without it turning nasty. You arent having a contention with me, you are having the contention with the Bible. Nasty is never going to happen because I don't bite, the most, I may, do, is an odd bark. Dtruthspeaker:
The crux of the matter is No One shall be guilty of an Offence, if there is no Law Prohibiting that Offence, which is not the case in homosexuality. I will keep reminding and advising you to stick to exactly what is in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. To exactly stick to how Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 was written without adding or using the word homosexuality, that is a late 19th century invention. It will interest you to know, that the words, homosexuality and homosexual are not at all, in the original texts of the Bible. In fact, the words homosexuality and/or homosexual, actually are words that are barely 200 years old. As a matter of fact, the word "homosexual" was invented in 1868, and has earlier advanced, the word " homosexuality" certainly wasn't around in Biblical times to be used. Another more interesting fact, is that, the word " homosexual" was first printed in a German book in 1869, and then after placed in the German Bible in 1946 and later then in the English bible in 1950s, so please do add words into to Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, that weren't originally there, lets faithfully just stick to exactly the same words as were used originally Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 Dtruthspeaker:
In fact Chapter 18 is all about Abominations not just homosexuality as you implied But All of Them including verse 18 Are All Abominations to The Lord. With all due respect to you, may I humbly ask you to present verse(s) in Leviticus 18, that specifically said or called an activity an abomination(s) Dtruthspeaker:
Thus God (and not I) has answered your question why is verse 22 Prohibited. Pride will not permit you to admit that, you have no clue why the activities in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are prohibited and the reason for calling them abomination Dtruthspeaker:
And The Lord God Clearly Answers You that it is Prohibited because, He Hates or Abhors (hence Abominations) Them All!
Which is Seen in verses 24-29.
24 Defile not ye yourselves in Any of These Things[: {Not One as you implied) for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit Any of These Abominations; {Not One as you implied) neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
27 For All These Abominations {Not One as you implied) have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;
28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.
29 For whosoever shall commit Any of These abominations, {Not One as you implied) even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.
And the Trespass or Offence or Sin Against Holiness is called "Defilement!" I am pleased that you are provoked that much to go review the bible, but not so fast José, I put it to you, that the whole shebang of Leviticus 18:24-29 is exclusively related Leviticus 18:22 I can see that you conveniently omitted Leviticus 18:30 when reeling out your " forced-to-go-research-upon" Leviticus 18. Why now? Is it because of you not grasping the grave concern of exactly what were the practised " abominable customs" ni? What exactly was going on during the " abominable customs" activity, that defiled the land and disgusts God, huh? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers by MuttleyLaff: 6:31pm On Aug 12, 2020*. Modified: 3:35am On Sep 13, 2020 |
Ndipe:
The conflict that arose between Moses and his siblings over his marriage to the Ethiopian woman should serve as a lesson to some racists who view interracial relationships as deviating from the Word of God.
As for Orikinla claiming that Moses was polygamous, I did check, and it is probably likely that Zipporah died, prior to his marriage to the Ethiopian wife. Dont mind Miriam, of course, Zipporah, was Midianite, but Miriam was trying to be derogatory, hence the reason why she deliberating called Zipporah, a Cushite. It is like, when racists, calls a black man, a nigger.tpia5:
the midianites were said to be dark skinned, so it's quite possible the ethiopian or cushite woman being murmured about, was still zipporah, moses' wife. Ndipe:
Probably. Some Christian scholars say so, others say they were two different women.
MuttleyLaff:
In Exodus 4:25-26, the pronoun “You” (i.e. in the NASB) appears twice, the pronoun “He” and “him” appears once.
You are right that Zipporah, after performing the circumsion on their son, first threw the foreskin at His feet, then said about God, affirming that, He is a bridegroom of blood to her, at which, subsequently, God let him alone or spared his life (i.e. spared the life of Moshe's son). She had that satori that He is Jesus Christ
Reading Exodus chapter 4 contextually put things in their proper perspective
"1Then Miriam and Aaron criticized Moses because of the Cushite woman he had married, for he had taken a Cushite wife.
2“Does the LORD speak only through Moses?” they said. “Does He not also speak through us?” And the LORD heard this"
- Numbers 12:1-2
It's from the exposure of Zipporah, being a pastor/priest's one of seven daughters (i.e. the daughter of Reuel/Jethro/Hobab, the priest and prince of Midian) and that her privy to the knowledge of the details of the Bridegroom, obtained likely from divining, as a result of past interacts with Moses, that made her have the understanding, revelation of who the Bridegroom of blood is, have the know how and capability to carry the circumcision
Numbers 12:1-2, is informing us that, Miriam and Aaron criticized Moses because of wife, the Cushite woman, an outsider. Zipporah is an archetype, a typical example of the Gentiles, who 2000 years will be grafted into the fold based on the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. This was a coded language of what was going to happen in the future
Also they were jealous of the Bridegroom revelation Zipporah received (i.e. Numbers 12:2), and why it wasn't them that had it
The shepherdess in Song of Solomon 1:5-6 is not a naturally black skinned person. She actually is an Israelite, just like the other womenfolk. She is a person of the Levant origin or from the Mediterranean Sea region
The shepherdess in Song of Solomon Solomon 1:5-6, a bonafide and confirmed Israelite, had to apologise to the women, for turning dark and/or for becoming darker than her other fellow light olive-skinned/light reddish brown skinned/light yellow or golden skinned Israelite womenfolk.
Yes, they weren't aware that they were given a glimpse of what the future would be or look like and so they unconsciously were fighting and/or kicking against it.
3/ What is Moshe simulating when he married Zipporah?
The simulation is this: Jesus’ Union with the Apostles in the building of the Church of God.He was simulating the future union of Jew and Gentiles and the time when it wouldn't matter whether one is a Jew or a Gentile
donnie:
Why are you so adicted to religion? Sigh. The misguided soul doesnt know what pure and undefiled religion is, this is why he is asking why anyone can be so addicted to religiondonnie:
That is the witchcraft and decption of the beast system. Must you join a group?
REPENT and keep that commandments, that's all. You are caught in one snare after the other, that could have been avoided in the first place, had you submitted to the ministration of the Holy Spirit donnie:
I have real people around who believe the same things and we have studies and fellowship together Blind guide, leading blind lemmings, over a cliff top edgedonnie:
Its not a religion, its an awakening. Defo not religion, defo not awakening, but certainly treading the path that risks or leads to eternal damnation |
| Christianity Etc › Re: >>>speaking In Tongues!<<<| by MuttleyLaff: 11:33am On Aug 12, 2020*. Modified: 4:34am On Aug 13, 2020 |
Truvel:
I'm Done Replying U. Good riddance to your load of bad rubbish and spewed nonsense. You never were in a position to reply to me nor to give answers to easy, simple, direct and straightforward questions asked you |
| Christianity Etc › Re: >>>speaking In Tongues!<<<| by MuttleyLaff: 9:23am On Aug 12, 2020*. Modified: 9:43am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Truvel:
Den What Are U Suffering 4rm? U Don't Know How 2 Talk, Even Though U May Be Claiming 2 Know D Scripture. I am giving you as good as I have been getting from you. I am reciprocating your tone, manner and style of talking
Now, show me where I have ever claimed to know the scripture? Your inadequacy complex is betraying you |
| Christianity Etc › Re: >>>speaking In Tongues!<<<| by MuttleyLaff: 8:51am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Acehart:
What’s up? Please, show me a sign to confirm you are Muttleylaff? Please, show me a sign that you, Muttleylaff, is here? Please, show me a sign that you are on nairaland? Please, show me a sign that indeed you are talking through Muttleylaff?
Do you get my drift?
The Holy Spirit will always speak as Christ. Though He is who He is, He always shows up as Christ - simple, quiet, pious, non-narcissistic, easily overlooked, frail like the wind, gentle etc. These are qualities of Christ and also the qualities of the Paraclete.
Why did the Philistines always wonder where the Spirit-endowed Samson got his strength from? they lived by sight and not by faith. A sign has and would always be for the wicked. Stick to the narrative and context please, and dont be going on tangent with all the above eisegesis. This evil generation is talking off the sectarian Pharisees and Sadducees, period. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: >>>speaking In Tongues!<<<| by MuttleyLaff: 8:34am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Truvel:
Like I Said B4 Dis Teaching Is Not 4 Everyone. It's 4 D Pentecoastal Believers. If U Are Not A Pentecoastal Believer, Nothing I Say Would Make Any Sense 2 U. We Av Different People & Churches With Different Belief. Let me correct you, you arent anything pentecostal believers at all, you are penterascal.
Pentecostal believers know, why the disciples, were warned and advised by Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, to stay behind after pentecost and not to lead before receiving the power from on high. Pentecostal believers, know how many times speaking in tongues was recorded in the Bible. Will know why it was necessary to have those speaking in tongues recorded. Will know what instigated or what was the catalyst for the speaking in tongue to happen, each time it/they happened. Will know the the gift of speaking in tongue is not for every believer. Will know that the spiritual gift of speaking in tongue, one of the nine examples of evidence of having the Holy Spirit, is actually at the lower rung of hierarchy of the spiritual gifts, and lastly, a bonafide "kofam" pentecostal believer would easily show where in their Bible, it is recorded that human beings, ever spoke in a heavenly angelic tongue, heavenly tongue, celestial being tongue or extraterrestrial being tongue.
You are nothing other than suffering from an over inflated and self conceited pseudo super-ego |
| Christianity Etc › Re: >>>speaking In Tongues!<<<| by MuttleyLaff: 7:52am On Aug 12, 2020 |
Acehart:
Mr. Truvel says, “There are two types of tongues”:
1. Speaking in tongues.
2. Praying in tongues. Speaking in tongues and praying in tongues are the same thing, just as if I should speak in English or
pray in English.Acehart:
Your points don’t seem coherent. When you would explain these “categories” of tongues, I know for certain that your explanation would be bereft of coherence. It seems coherent so far he isn't trying to create categories of speaking in tongues
Acehart:
Christ says, “an evil generation always seeks for a sign and no sign would be given”. So who gives your signs? Where there is a display of a sign, the architect of evil is in operation; for the Holy Spirit is always anonymously operating. Any sign shown in the presence of both the saints and the children of perdition is not from God. The evil generation Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ predominantly addressed that remark to, were the returned Babylonian Israelites exiles who were the Pharisees and Sadducees, and its them, from their Judaism sectarian background and man made traditions, that were, always asking Yahshua Ha Mashiach for a sign to confirm who He is et ceteraTruvel:
Why Did Christ Say So? U Seem Not 2 Understand D Bible Passage U Just Quoted. D Passage Has Nothing 2 Do With Dis. You have quite a lot more proper and correct biblical education to learn. Smh.
I am still awaiting your answer to the question I asked you and that I, show where in your Bible, it is recorded that human beings, ever spoke in a heavenly angelic tongue, heavenly tongue, celestial being tongue or extraterrestrial being tongue |
| Culture › Re: Ibo, Hausa And Yoruba Are Not Indegenous Africans by MuttleyLaff: 6:26am On Aug 12, 2020*. Modified: 7:00am On Aug 12, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:
Please dont get it twisted because it is only the Godhead, and celestial beings, seraphim, cherubim, extraterrestrial beings, at the authorisation of God, who take on human form (e.g. Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ) or take on what appears to look like human form (e.g. Angel of the Lord, extraterrestrial and celestial beings) to help the soul they're guiding when they're in their greatest need.
There is no recorded account of any other spirit bar the above listed Spirit and/or spirit of ever taking on human form. It is an impossicant!
"For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life,
is not of the Father, but is of the world."
- 1 John 2:16
"The woman was convinced.
She saw that the tree was beautiful and its fruit looked delicious,
and she wanted the wisdom it would give her.
So she took some of the fruit and ate it.
Then she gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it, too"
- Genesis 3:6
Learn from 1 John 2:16 and Genesis 3:6 Bible 101, never listen to any contrary intuition, at the expense of violating and not respect the word/command/law of God
"4For great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised; He is to be feared above all gods.
5For all the gods of the nations are idols, but it is the LORD who made the heavens.
6Splendor and majesty are before Him; strength and beauty fill His sanctuary"
- Psalm 96:5
"Do not turn to idols or make for yourselves molten gods.
I am the LORD your God"
- Leviticus 19:4
"Now the rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues
still did not repent of the works of their hands.
They did not stop worshiping demons and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone,
and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk."
- Revelation 9:20
"'How horrible it will be for the one who says to a piece of wood, "Wake up!"
and to a stone that cannot talk, "Get up!' "
Can that thing teach [anyone]?
Just look at it! It's covered with gold and silver,
but there's absolutely no life in it.""
- Habakkuk 2:19
There is, only the Holy Spirit, that guides.
Dont allow an intuition, bereft of the guidance of the Holy Spirit, rise to any prominence.
In the Igbo cosmology and/or mythology, there are many or there are more than one "chi". The Igbos believe that there is a "chi" that creates and there is/are personal "chi(s)"
It would interest you to know that, in Igbo parlance, "chi" means god, guide, influence, intelligence et cetera and "ike or eke" means "create", "know-how" "divide", "force", "power", "energy", "might", "capacity", "ability" et cetera and so what's more interesting is the fact that, "chineke" is a portmanteau word, formed them two words "chi" and "ike or eke" and of course, it means, "guide that creates" "god who creates" or "god that creates" "god with know-how" "god with power, force energy, might, ability creates" et cetera
The Igbos, believe that, the reason for the existence of this "chi" is to create, hence why particularly, the "chi" is called creator or chineke (i.e. the guide and/or god, that creates)
Now, if you believe that this "chi" is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, who doesnt share His glory with any other "chi" then, the "chi" becomes "Chi", Chineke and/or Creator. There is no vacancy, for any other "chi," I am talking of no vacancy to fill, for personal "chi" here, except for "Chi"
"11For He will command His angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways.
12They will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone."
- Psalm 91:11-12
It is "Chi" who dispatches celestial beings aka angels, to watch over you. Personal "chi(s)" are not spiritguide(s) and they are unable to do or achieve anything.
donnie:
Ba-ntu is Bantu language and correctly rendered Aba-ntu meaning "The people of the house".
In Bantu you use Aba as a prefix to describe or qualify a group of people.
Ntu- like Bantus will say Mu-ntu in referring to a brother from your house, family, tribe or race.
You could say Aba-kal when referring to a group of women in the third-person. Aba is that prefix referring to a group (not singular) and Nenkal means women.
Aba-yudaya means: the people of Yuda/Judah (they are a tribe in Uganda that have a history and tradition of their decent from the kingdom of YAHUNDE/ JUDAH in Israel).
Even the word ISRAEL is a European corruption of the Bantu word YISOLELE (ISOLELE) which means SEPERATED and from where the English word ISOLATE was derived.
So the word Aba-ntu was used in the third-person in describing these people who migrated through the continent. We don't need Europeans or those who have been bewitched by them to teach us our language or who we are.
And what those fake Jews speak is YIDDISH. That is not the ancient Hebrew of the scriptures. Ancient Hebrew is in the Bantu languages. Our Bantu names are in the bible. We even have the ancient Hebrew names for God in Bantu languages. Humble yourself and learn my friend... You have been fooled morpheus24:
Thank you for re-writing what I already know in reference to the word "bantu". It was irrelevant though and still doesn't make any connection to your so called Bantu-Israel connection.
Let me demonstrate your logic here. The word "CHi" in an Nigerian Language (igbo) means spirit or that force that drives you from within. The same word "chi" in Chinese means the exact same thing. Both cultures use this word to form names in their distinct langauges. I could as well draw a correlation and claim that ancient Chinese ancestors are of Igbo extract as their language retained this particular word that transcended time.
As for your so called tribe in Uganda, t has been know that the Lemba carry some Y-DNA that is found in Jewish males in the Levant. This may be, but is nothing fantastical and has no bearing on your bantu-israel migration story as people do move from place to place. Many Hausa-Fulani people carry the r1b male haplogroup mutation which is predominant in European males. Does this mean that all Hausa men are dscendend from European males. No my friend.
h t tps://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/lemba-tribe-in-southern-africa-has-jewish-roots-genetic-tests-reveal
You and this my friend in the video below have been smoking the same weed you know. All speculation no corroboration.
PS I don't care what the so called modern Jews of today speak. What is left of the hebrew language is contained in the Torah and talmud. EVen so called ancient jews during the last two standing kingdoms of Isreal spoke a dying version of it called Hebrew-Aramaic.
Stop trying to school someone who has been dealing with this rubbish for years.
Again Blood does not lie. E3b1ba is a later mutation of A, D and E3b1b. Bantu's are much younger in Africa than most other types of Africans. They are so many of them because they were the most successful in terms of agrarian and pastoral practices, spreading out across Africa which is the reason why there are so many of them.
DNA does not lie. When that test tells you are 99.99% the daddy you better believe it. ! [img] https://s5/images/ezgif-2-bb81ab7ea10d.gif[/img] " ... been smoking the same weed ... " is savage. Macof and morpheus24, you both are rebutting fantabulously well ojaare. Oinn. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: >>>speaking In Tongues!<<<| by MuttleyLaff: 10:12pm On Aug 11, 2020*. Modified: 11:00pm On Aug 11, 2020 |
"1Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
7To each person the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the benefit of all.
8For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom;
to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy;
to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues;
to another the interpretation of tongues:
11It is the one and only Spirit who distributes all these gifts.
He alone decides which gift each person should have."
- 1 Corinthians 12:1 and 7-11
Speaking in tongue, is just one of the 9 flavours of manifestation of the Holy Spirit. (i.e. one of the 9 signs of manifestation of the Holy Spirit or one of the 9 ways to show evidence, of having the Holy Spirit)
Funnily enough, I can remember from the Bible, that the spiritual gift of speaking in tongue, is positioned at the lower end of the spiritual gift pecking order.
"Tani jẹ gbena, woju ẹkun, ẹjẹ ka wo?", loosely translated, means "Lets see, who with a lantern, will dare look the tiger in the eyes?"
1/ How many times sef was speaking in tongues ever recorded has happened?
2/ What instigated men, on them different occasions to speak in tongues and why, what was the objective for them to get speaking in tongues?
3/ Where the tongues spoken on those different occasions, said, in terrestrial or heavenly/angelic tongues? |
