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Well you're half right.
God sees his human creation as his masterpiece yea. But there are also verses where he regrets making his masterpiece and resorts to destroying them.
So most especially he has expectations of that masterpiece.
And when the "masterpiece" fails to meet his expectation, he destroys it. After all he is the potter and we are the clay. Isaiah 45:9

But I do catch your drift cos your perception of yourself is all that matters.
For as he thinks within himself, so he is. Proverbs-23-7a

But as vivid as your perception is, God still decides whether or not whom to bless.

My question however is this- If he knows we as humans can't meet his expectations then why did he create man to meet his expectation?
If you say it is because of sin, then how com the sacrifice of Christ (his only begotten son) still could not correct the damage done by the 1 sin committed by Adam and Eve? Is sin more potent than sacrifice? Is darkness more powerful than light?

gabbijason:
This post wasn't created for arguments, or but to encourage every Christian of the need to preach the gospel vehemently by every means necessary. Now if you think thats wrong teaching then I question your Christianity.

Secondly, there is a difference between the ministry gifts(the gifts of an Apostle, prophets, teachers evangelists and pastors) as shown in Eph 4:11 and the ministry of every believer; which is the ministry of reconciliation to preach the gospel to the lost and reconcile them back to God. The ministry gifts are special calling and gifts to provide leadership for the church, while the ministry of every believer is to preach the gospel to unbelievers. Again if you don't agree with that, then you should read your Bible again.

The ministry gifts are specific calling given by Jesus through the Holy Spirit. But as a Christian, you don't need any other calling to preach the gospel, this is our mission on earth to reach the lost. And you have to join in this mission. This is what this post is able. Nobody is calling himself to be a Pastor, the owner of the church(Jesus) appoints whom He deem fit through the working of the Holy Ghost.

Shalom

Why do you think there is the ministry of Evangelists if is for everyone?

Cos by your meaning, everyone is also an Apostle, teacher, pastor and prophet.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus SENT all his true followers out saying "Go therefore and make disciples" Matthew 28:19

This is what happens when you just pick verses randomly without studying the background.
Not every verse in the bible is for everyone.
He was speaking exclusively here, not to all who believed in him or followed him but to the 11 disciples he sent.

Mark 16:14-17
Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and He rebuked their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who had seen Him after He had risen. 15And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

And that's why signs followed them cos his power was with them.
Any zealous person can preach but only the sent yield results.

In the same vein, when Paul was sent, he achieved results. If you're picking verses at random you might as swell say that you were sent like Paul to the gentiles or you were sent to feed his sheep like Peter.

SilverNorGold:
Lol.. One face symbolizes our hypocrisy... while the second one symbolizes the reality...

Same thing on Nairaland.. Nairalanders go condemn mods for featuring certain posts on Front Page for lacking "educational contents".. Check views, you go see "80k plus".. But once the so called "educative" threads are featured on FP, them go desert am.. If you check views, na like "6k" or '8k" you go see... .

Nigerians and hypocrisy sha

Na God go help us..

I like how your mind works.

I couldn't have portrayed it better.

The irony is that even most Nigerian parents are busy raising their daughters to be the sultry Nengi rather than the brainy Ebiza.

I think the governor acted wisely choosing both of them.

gabbijason:
If you read my post... What you wrote now is precisely what I mean. Read it again. Every Christian has been given a ministry of reconciliation. To win souls for Christ. Maybe you were misled by the title. You can quote any part of the article that suggests any thing different from what you just send. The title is suppose to lure you to read the main article.

Bless you my brother in Christ

Here is where you missed it again. Every one may preach but you have to be sent.

Romans 10:14-15
How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard?c And how are they to hear without someone preaching? 15 And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!”

gabbijason:
You missed it 100�

If you read through correctly, you will understand the reason for this post is not about pastors.. But about the ministry of ministry of every Christian, anyone who is born again. The post is not about starting a church building or administration. So no point taking about joblessness or pastor blah blah blah. It's the responsibility of every Christian to burn for Christ, win soul for Him because He's coming for His Church soon and doesn't want any soul to perish. The Church will be raptured any moment from now, and if you are a Christian, quit these unlearn attacks and join other believers in this end time harvest. This is not about a starting church or collecting offerings. It's strictly about evangelism and making an impact.

Conversion is different from calling.

Conversion is general. Similar to being born a Jew in the old testament.

Being called refers to having a defined purpose after your conversion that is unique to you like the afore-listed names.

In the new testament we also saw Peter being sent. Paul and Barnabas being separated by the Holy spirit and sent to the Gentiles.
Philip was sent to preach to the eunuch, etc.

MaxInDHouse:
I'm sorry if my comments upset you, please i tender an apology!

As for the bolded, all of them belongs to the same lineage and God's will for all of them have to do with just one purpose restoration of pure worship!

Abraham was called out of Ur amongst idol worshipers, God promised to establish his covenant with him forever if Abraham will remain faithful and loyal to the end, God fulfilled his own part of the covenant but Abraham's descendants weren't as faithful as the patriarch. So there was no special will for anyone in the Bible apart from this arrangement, all other humans are to wait patiently until God restore Paradise then we will all return to his former plan (multiply, subdue the earth and dominate all other creatures)
That's what i'm saying, but if you can find any special will apart from that arrangement please i'm willing to learn!

Offend me? Of course not. Though I hope you're not offended I concluded you had no indepth knowledge of the bible since I just exposed your error.

Basically you mean God has stopped revealing his specific will for individuals just because Jesus was born. And also because you don't have any specific will from God.

But if God could reveal specific will to those of the old covenant before the Holy spirit indwelling, are they not better off than you who claim to have the Holy spirit but have no revelation other than what you are told by your pastor or you read in the bible.

Is that not supposed to be what separates Christianity from being just another religion? Worshipping God through Christ and relationship with the Holy spirit?

This is getting out of control.

GENUINEFILMS:
I need someone trustworthy in Kano..

Are you trustworthy yourself?

MaxInDHouse:
The will of God for Mankind is to multiply and subdue the earth (take charge of all the natural resources) and control all other creatures! Genesis 1:28
It's selfishness that led mankind to where we are today, God has no special will for anyone, apart from animals that we are to dominate all humans are equal before God!

You clearly don't even know your bible yet you're attempting to teach others.

Let me mention a few examples in the bible of people who had specific will of God-

Abraham (to raise a nation that would serve God)
Joseph (to be sold by his brothers and end up saving his nation.)
Moses ( to get his nation out of egypt into the promised land)
Samson (to deliver the israelites from philistines)
Deborah (to be a mother in israel}
David (to be king of Israel)
John the baptist ( to be a forerunner)
The Disciples (to be fishers of men)
Paul (to preach to gentiles)

In you need the bible references of course, I'll be glad to oblige.

gabbijason:
John 1:6-7
There was a man sent from God whose name was John.
The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

Culled from Rhemadaily by Yhuki Peters.

Isn't it interesting to you that example you have is from the bible and not reality?

According to the bible when God calls a man, there's a revelation beforehand to his parents.

With the disciples, Jesus himself called them.

Pastors these days were not called. They simply grew up in the church and when they were not successful at business they decided to go into the church business.

Otherwise when God calls you according to the bible, miracles as recorded in the bible also follow.
It's amazing the things pastors now call miracles. such as waking up, being healthy, getting a job, etc.

Whereas miracle as seen in the bible were not general experiences everyone has but unique experience such as someone born blind getting to see, the red sea parting, feeding 5000 with only 5 bread and 2 fishes, etc.

My point is, you and whoever wrote this never had a prophecy that you woulr be born to serve God. You never truly knew from your childhood that you were born to liberate nations. You simply heard your pastor tell you how important it is to serve God and since other aspects of your life weren't successful you decided to try your luck in church business.

No offense, just scripturally speaking.

iyambz:
When it comes to finding the will of God in your life, it can be quite difficult. The truth is that you don’t find it, the Lord’s will finds you. But for His will to find you, you must be doing something first.

1. You need to have a ready heart. Surrender to whatever God shows you.

2. Study the Scriptures. Ask God to show you the truth before you open that Book.

3. Prayer. This is basically talking to God.

4. Providential circumstances. Pay attention to circumstances. Pay attention to closed and open doors.

5. Peace of God.

6. Good advisors.

Have you even discovered the will of God for your own existence?

Bialegend:
These are the terrorists and religious bigots that I, a Biafran is supposed to share a country with, right? Ok!!

These are the same bigots codedly trying to have a naked party in Kaduna. Bloody hypocrites.

samsard:
Elon Musk and Bill Gates did not need a graduation incentive to do what they're doing.
Entertainment is a sector on it's own and should not be the scapegoat for our inability to get things right.

They are 1 in a million.
The point is clearly not to diminish the entertainment industry but to establish which is more important.

You can't possibly argue that BBN or football is more important than making N8geria less of a consuming nation and more of a producing nation through academic development.

samsard:
What everyone fails to realize is that entertainment is a business, academics is not.
If an entertainer is paid 50 million today, be rest assured that they're making at least 150 million off of him. A graduating student is generating exactly zero Naira in revenue. It's simple economics, not morals at play.

Here in lies the problem.
This is what happens when you prioritize business over development.

That's why Nigeria is rotting away everyday.
Instead of investing in those that can bring about development, we are more interested in what will bring fast money. Not understanding that the development will bring even more money.

Stallion93:
Honestly I prefer the nudity. That BBN house is filled with enjoyment. It’s like a win win situation, Enjoy Nudity, free food and smooch and still get 5mila at the end

Entertainment has always been more celebrated than Academics.
Sports is even more ridiculous. Imagine paying 500million euros just for a player to come and be kicking a ball

But atleast this is a good development from the gov.

slyfoxxjoe:
LMAO you sent me an edited video made by a partisan democrat organization that has been trying to get Trump out of office since his election then you come and tell me you're not a liberal. Go sit down my friend. How can a blind man open the eyes of another man.

1. Americans are free to peacefully assemble and protest for any reason they like. Trump didn't organize the protests, his supporters did. he just jumped on board and promoted it when he found out about it.

2. Like I said 'fight' is a common term used by politicians. It means persevering in the struggle for your cause, whatever that cause may be. If you havn't heard this term used by even democrats before then I don't think you're as observant to the obvious as you claim.

3. The crowd meant continuing in their support for Trump and election accountability. If they all thought he meant get violent then the Capitol raid would have been worse because they would have ALL gone there. Not just few.

4. He conceded AFTER Congress certified Bidens win at which point the election was truly over and he had no other legal recourse.

Baba you sound slow sha. Was Obama inciting violence here too:

https://www.dw.com/en/obama-calls-on-americans-to-fight-for-democracy-in-farewell-speech/a-37083586

One of the best things you can be in life at some point is to be neutral.
It helps you see things clearly.

The fact that I'm neither pro or anti-biafra helps me know that Kanu is not the way to go.

Also as much as im a Trump fan, the fact that I'm neither pro Democrat or Republican helps me know that Trump messed up by not conceding and also made it worse by the Capitol Hill fiasco.

donb06:
Have been following from the beginning of this discourse.... His view was never to spare trump but the one-sideness of twitter..... Stop twisting the discourse.... Typical of Democrats.... TWISTERS

One of the best things you can be in life at some point is to be neutral.
It helps you see things clearly.

The fact that I'm neither pro or anti-biafra helps me know that Kanu is not the way to go.

Also as much as im a Trump fan, the fact that I'm neither pro Democrat or Republican helps me know that Trump messed up by not conceding and also made it worse by the Capitol Hill fiasco.

kurupt1:
What did you just say?? That igbos burned down Tinubu and Sanwo olu properties? Now I can see why u voted for Buhari.....u guys are sooo dumb and naive

One of the best things you can be in life at some point is to be neutral.
It helps you see things clearly.

The fact that I'm neither pro or anti-biafra helps me know that Kanu is not the way to go.

Also as much as im a Trump fan, the fact that I'm neither pro Democrat or Republican helps me know that Trump messed up by not conceding and also made it worse by the Capitol Hill fiasco.

Lol he should give us a time line.

Hope it's not the remaining good in this country that would be over but the hardship he has imposed on us all that would be over.

The easiest way to make this happens is just for him to step down and declare himself unfit for the job. Even the VP is a better choice.

slyfoxxjoe:
You're the ignorant slowpoke here who has no clue what he's saying. Im just looking at you and laughing trying to speak English that you clearly don't understand. You send me a chopped and skewed video made by a well know partisan liberal media enterprise and that is supposed to prove to be that Trump incited violence. LOOOOOOOOL.

Baba I can also send you an edited and out of context video of democrats using the exact same words in that video or even worse, do you want me to? When politicians talk of "fight" they don't mean it literally and you're an slowpoke if you don't even know this. Trump said, and I quote "we are marching to the Capitol to CHEER our great republican leaders on. He also said at different parts of his speech that it should be done "peacefully" but of course your chopped and skewed video will not include those parts.

LMAO you're clearly a biased liberal lunatic. I thought I was even arguing with a reasonable human being.

I know I should have probably massaged your ego since it is all you have but by telling you how little you know on this issue I'm actually doing you more good.

I've never been a Democrat supporter because I know they're worse than Republicans are. I'm only opening your eyes to the obvious. Trump this time was wrong.

Why did Trump call for the protest in the first place? (Just to cheer Republicans you say?)
What by your own understanding did he mean by fighting for their Democracy?
What did the crowd mean by fighting for Trump? (which clearly we witnessed by their actions).
Why after staging a failed protest has he finally decided to concede?

This are basic questions that you don't even need a high IQ to point you to the obvious answers you seem oblivious of.

TheWalkingMind:
You make no sense in regards to previous discussion.

To a mad man no one has sense except him.

My mission was never to make sense to everyone.

Those who have sense see the sense in my post on this issue.

For you to still defend Trump after what happened at the Capitol Hill already says so much about your idea of sense.

slyfoxxjoe:
Oga expert on politics and human behaviour I am waiting for your reply oh.

Did Bernie Sanders also "wind" this supporter of his into trying to kill republican congressmen??

Should democrats be held responsible for his actions too?? Answer na

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/06/politics/congressional-shooter-70-rounds/index.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting

That Bernie Sanders wasn't sanctioned doesn't immunize Trump. Both of them should have been sanctioned.

You need to understand the gravity of what happened. But if you're a Donald Trump die hard fan then you can never see it.

slyfoxxjoe:
I didn't insult you. Respect yourself or I promise we will both get banned today if you wan't us to go down that path.

Ok, if this is your standard then why does it only apply to one side? Should Bernie Sanders also be sanctioned for the supporter and former campaign staff of his that literally opened fire on Republican lawmakers with an assault rifle after being inspired by Sanders heated rhetoric against republicans??

Should the numerous democrat politicians who egged on violent BLM protesters also be sanctioned? Answer me this since you're the one with the "mature" view of politics and human behavior.

My own standard is simple and fair to both sides..If a politician does not explicitly call for violence then they should not be punished for however their supporters interpret their rhetoric because it's a very slippery slope that will consume politicians on both sides.

Telling some one he is ignorant of what he doesn't know is clearly an insult to Nigerians but how else do you expect me to say it?

If Bernie Sanders also incited violence then he should have been sanctioned. That he wasn't sanctioned doesn't immunize Trump from it.

Like I said what you don't know on this issue clearly outweighs what you do know.

Here's a clip of their inciteful statements. Not to mention the tweets.

Ban. Expel. Arrest. Impeach. Convict. All of them. Now. #TrumpBanned pic.twitter.com/y9kV0QWid8

— MeidasTouch (@MeidasTouch) January 9, 2021

Kestolove:
At 41 no husband, pack breaszt like rochas belle, but una see dat her film king of boys..I love am

Why are nigerians so judgemental?!
She has never at any point insulted those who choose to settle for marriage. So if she chose to stay single and successful, why should you insult her for that?

This life is very vast! You're too limited to your own idea and ideals of life that you sound very ignorant when you expose your parochial POV like this.

Righteousness2:
GOD Bless you Sir for being an Instrument to the Kingdom of GOD.

GOD Bless you Sir For being a Willing tool in GOD'S Hands for these last days

GOD Bless you For standing Boldly with Isreal and Creating an Enabling Environment for the Church.

GOD Bless you For Declaring Boldly for JESUS Christ..

GOD Bless you For being Strong despite the fake news and evil doers

GOD Bless you For being the Most Patrotic President of all times.

GOD Bless you for shutting down Isis Noiselessly

GOD Bless you For being Real

Very Shortly, the World and its inhabitants will know and Understand that you were an instrument of Mercy used by GOD ALMIGHTY to get people to know JESUS and be Saved.

Very Shortly, the World and its inhabitants will see Clearly that you were the instrument used by GOD ALMIGHTY to delay Wrath from America and the World.

They will come Begging for you but it will too Late..

You Remain the World's Greatest President!

GOD Bless you Sir.
I Love you President Donald John Trump and I Support your Presidency Fully and Confidently, Anytime! Anyday! Anywhere!"

See you in the Sky...

Is it not a shame that the so called evil seems to be "trumping" good? (Pun intended).

How can Biden a known evil ambassador of the Democrats and their homosexuality and anti-Jewish campaign overthrow a whole Jesus ambassador Donald Trump? Just like that??

Apostle must hear this.

slyfoxxjoe:
Show me the video of Trump telling people to break into and loot the Capitol.

The rhetoric of nearly any politician can be twisted and interpreted as 'incentivizing' violence. I don't have time now but maybe later I will send you a video montage I saw a while back of Democrat politicians making statements that one could easily say fueled further violence during the BLM protest but they faced no consequences.

In 2017 a supporter of Bernie Sanders walked into a park where republican lawmakers where having their annual baseball competition and opened fire on them, badly wounding a few before he was taken out by security. Investigation of his social media accounts revealed he was inspired by the rhetoric of Bernie Sanders, much of which he interpreted as calls to violence against republican congressmen. Will I blame Bernie Sanders for the actions of this Lunatic? No! because no matter how heated his rhetoric was, he never explicitly said anyone should go and literally shoot republicans to death. That is my standard.

You are going down a very slippery slope if you wan't to start attributing heated political rhetoric to acts of violence. No one will be spared.

You seem to have a very juvenile idea of politics and human behaviours.

Even in our growing up day, I didn't have to tell you to slap someone all I needed to do was wind both of you and before you knew it a fight erupts.
That's human behaviour. You don't need a degree on psychology to know this.

America was already in a volatile state with all the enmity between Democrats and Republicans, BLM and Antifa, leftists, etc. So for an incumbent president to try to exploit that to keep himself in the White House is very much selfish and evil. Clearly he doesn't care to sacrifice the lives of his supporters just for him to remain in the White House.

I've followed Donald Trump for about 10 years now since his days in the Apprentice and one thing you need to k ow is that he hates to lose.
He's a bad loser.
While that may have worked for him in business, in politics he should have accepted when he lost and should have stepped down honorably.

Talking about inciteful statements, even the last Endsars protest was peaceful until Nnamdi Kanu incited his fellow IPOBians to burn down the properties of Tinibu, Sanwo-Olu and those they deemed to be igbo enemies.
That's how a peaceful protest turned violent to the extent of grazing people's properties, looting people's businesses and even beheading police officers. Just because Nnamdi Kanu made a radio broadcast and it was sent to his fellow IPOBians.

What you don't know clearly outweighs what you do know about Poliitics and human behaviours.

slyfoxxjoe:
the BLM protest caused between 1-2 billion dollars in damages and 19 lives lost. Twitter never condemned or banned any accounts linked to the protests.

Are you saying Trump and his cohorts should not have been sanctioned for their action?

BLM was a protest that erupted due to the police brutality especially after the Floyd incidence. Yes it may have been politicized but how do you compare that to the fiasco that Trump masterminded at the capitol hill just cos he doesn't want to leave the White House?

Mynd44:
But twitter urged on people who burnt properties in Nigeria an the name of EndSARS.

Jack actually asked people to donate funds into their accounts.

I don't care if your country burns as long as mine does not

See how fast those who invaded Capitol were labeled insurrectionists but when people invaded hugh security places in Nigeria like Airports and attempted to invade Aso Villa, they were "peaceful" EndSARS protesters

Jack supported the protest while it was still peaceful before all the vandalism.

Trump's protest on the other hand led to vandalism from the onset.

While I am usually a Trump fan,he definitely took it way too far this time around. He should have stepped down honorably. No amount of damage control can salvage his legacy now.

doggedfighter:
I am coming soon.

Does SOON mean over 2000 years?

Even the disciples believed it would happen in their generation because Jesus told them he would return before they entered the next city.

okadoo:
Donald Trump is 'most incompetent president' in US history.

On the contrary, prior to Covid-19, he was actually arguably the most competent president in US history. Unfortunate he let his anger and lack of self control get the best of him.

The Democrats threw him a bait and he took it. So painful to watch.