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femi4:
Forgiveness and repentance dude committed by first Adam.

You should understand the scripture better than this

If the LAW was perfect, Jesus wouldn't have died on the cross

After his death and resurrection have you stopped committing sin?

Only Jesus overcame sin. Even the early disciples continued to struggle with sin. Even you pastor is still struggling with sin.
Meaning repentance from sin is in the old testament as well as in the new testament.

The only difference is that the blood of Jesus which was the ultimate sacrifice stopped all othet forms of sacrifice for sin.

divinemichael:
I ask this question, because of the teachings of certain sects and religious groups, such as Islam who claims Christ was just a prophet, the Jehovah witness who claim Christ is angel michael, and some other groups who try to discredit and deny the divinity and preexistence of Christ.

I presume God's statement (come lets make man in our own image) in the book of "Genesis" was directed to Christ and possibly the holy spirit which is a proof for the doctrine of trinity...

Anyway if there's a contrary probative opinion with cogent evidences, am ready to learn and be corrected.

Why do you like to create confusions for yourselves.

No where in the bible is this question answered. All you will get is people's eisegesis.

Some claim because of trinity, God was referring to the Holyspirit and Jesus (His Word).

Some claim he was referring to the Angel's. Although we do not confirm that Angel's share the same image and likeness with God.

femi4:
It's not contradictory.

The Bible is clear, in that even in your personal effort, GRACE must be acknowledge.

All your WORKS are futile without putting GRACE into consideration

The laws are letters and they KILL, no forgiveness or repentance in LAW. Everything about LAW is condemnation

Why do you speak like you have never read the bible before. How can you say theres no forgiveness or repentance in the law?

Abraham, Samson, David, Solomon and others sinned and were forgiven by God in the old testament.

The difference is there is no longer the need for sacrifices in the new testament as the blood of Jesus atones for all sins.

You should read your bible before making posts. Don't speak of what you have no knowledge of cos there are those who will expose your ignorance of scriptures.

jiggaz:
These are notes on the sermon, What It Means To Fall From Grace, preached by Pastor Joseph Prince on Sunday, 22 November 2020, at The Star Performing Arts Centre, Singapore. We hope these sermon notes will be an encouragement to you!


Overview

1. Introduction: We are no longer under the law but under grace

2. What does “falling from grace” really mean?

3. Your part is not to earn God’s blessings but to simply receive them by grace

4. You fall from grace when you depend on your own effort to get what God has already given you

5. Only grace can produce moral excellence in your life

6. Only grace can supply you with divine favor and peace with people

7. Grace, not the law, is at the heart of true holiness

8. Under grace, divine health and healing flow


PLEASE READ THE CONCLUDING PART OF THIS WONDERFUL SERMON VIA THE LINK BELOW...


https://www.josephprince.com/sermon-notes/what-it-means-to-fall-from-grace

I've been waiting for someone to bring this up.

This is why i say the bible is self contradictory.

The same bible that says you should not try to fulfil the laws also tells you're a sinner if you don't stop committing sin.
Which means it is a personal effort to stop committing sin. Yet if you try to stop committing sin you are no longer under Grace but under the law.

Can you explain this?

Righteousness89:
Matthew 24:21
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Judgement is Coming; Escape!!!

Revelation 6:15-16
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb

Judgement is Coming; Escape!!!

Revelation 9:6
And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

Judgement is Coming; Escape!!!

Revelation 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Judgement is Coming; Escape!!!

Revelation 8:7-9
7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

Judgement is Coming; Escape!!!

Revelation 8: 10-13
10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

Judgement is Coming; Escape!!!


What is the way of Escape?

The only way of Escape is to Surrender to JESUS Christ. There is no other way.

A- Admit or Acknowledge that you are a Sinner in need of a Savior. Romans 3:10, Romans 3:23

B- Believe in your Heart that JESUS Christ is LORD. Romans 10:9-10

C- Call upon the Name of the LORD. Romans 10:13

You keep speaking of judgment as if you can escape God's judgment. Haven't you read Psalm130:3? If God should mark our iniquities who can stand?

Or haven't you read Revelations 2 and 3?
None of the 7 churches is free of iniquity.

CaptainZubi:
For about 5 years now I've been battling extreme tiredness . Asides that I sleep alot most especially at afternoons. At night,nonce I sleep around 11pm and not going to work the next day, I can wake up by 10am or 11 am.

During afternoon and night sleeps, the sleep is usually very deep (REM phase or whatever you medics call it, please correct me) and usually characterized by heavy dreams.

Even during work, I'll always take the risk to create some time to have a little sleep. I've been battling this for about 5 years now. What could be wrong.

That's signs of depression.
Find something you're passionate about that will motivate you to stay awake more.

FahBuLous:
Jesus didn't call them fools..

Matthew 23:17
You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?

FahBuLous:
Good day nairalanders, How can I be free from sin completely?

I keep repenting of a particular thing and going back to doing it after a week or two.. I want to live for GOD, it's the end time and I want to be ready for the coming of the LORD..
Please elders in the house, coach and advice me.. I am willing to learn!
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Please move to fp for wider view, thank you..

No one is completely free from sin otherwise we make God a liar. 1 John 1 8-10

Even Paul admitted having a thorn in his flesh he could not overcome. 2 Corinthians 12:7-10

Even Jesus sinned by calling the Pharisees and Saducees fools. Matthew 5:22. Hard to believe but true.

Moferere:
I guess you address your Uncle by tagging them illiterates at home.

Mannerless boy.

Uncle Moferere, Desmond Idiot's cousin. We children are just rude like that.
Pls be a good uncle and kuku die fast now.

Moferere:
Obviously, you are not well raised.
I blame your parents for not teaching you how to engage strangers.

Would you have been offended if I simply said "can't you read between the lines"?
Check you dictionary to see the meaning of illiterate.

So apparently, it's your english teacher and faulty 9ja mentality that is to blame.

ochuski:
Miracle in Cell No. 7

If you watch that movie and you dont cry then you're a witch period!.

Maybe cos some of us know it's just acting and nothing more.

It's ok if you cried but don't label others cos they understand what you don't.

oluwadabira111:
Arewa consultative forum is the most useless tribal organisation we have in nigeria.

Isnt it amazing that you did not address their point but chose to ignore that and insult them instead?

Not a supporter of Arewa but what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

If Ndume could be arrested over Maina's bail likewise Abaribd should be arrested for Kanu jumping bail.

Moferere:
Drive innoson or GAC if you are serious.

Are you illiterate? You can read between the lines?

Govt has officially launched a competition against Innoson.

JourneytoEL:
when you receive the Holy Spirit you don't just go around performing miracles. You need to pay the price. Observe that when Jesus was baptized, the Holy Spirit came upon him in the form of a dove. But he didn't start performing miracles immediately, rather the Holy Spirit took him to wilderness to fast for 40days and be tempted. You see, even though he was a whole big Jesus, he had to follow the protocol of paying the price by prevailing in fasting and prayer before performing miracles. Even the apostles, despite receiving the Holy Spirit had to be persecuted and give to a life of prayer before even their shadow could heal the sick. As for myself, when i received the Holy Spirit, i was led by the Holy Spirit to pray at midnight. Prior to then, i always had malaria every 3months, but it has been months i had malaria or fell ill. Before my child falls ill, i do see myself in my dream praying for his healing, so whenever he begins to fall ill, i pray for him and he receives his healing. So since then, i haven't spent a dime on drugs or hospital bills. I do receive revelations from my dreams unlike before, like very clear and precise revelations, mostly about my family members and people i know, like who is about to die and in what manner, who is about to give birth and the sex, whose financial status is about to change for better. I haven't really received prophesies so i can't say i have gotten the gift yet, but i know i received that of healing and warfare, only problem now is i am pregnant so i can't fast and i find it difficult to pray at night because of my job and condition, so the revelations have reduced.

I like your honesty.
You seem genuine. More Grace to you.

JourneytoEL:
I've had a good number but the problem is the time to type them. The major problem i had was i didn't understand what i was going through and at a point i was thinking i was under a demonic attack. When i received the Holy Spirit, i didn't know something like that existed. Infact, prior to then, i was so ignorant about christianity that i laughed at people who speak in tongues. The day it happened i found myself speaking in the tongues in the midst of a worship service. The more i tried to stop it the more it continued, so i stopped fighting it because i was enjoying the calm. "Problem" now started whenbi got home but i couldn't pray with English alone. whenever i want to pray i would start speaking in tongues involuntarily, at this point i felt tongues were indeed demonic to stop me from praying. So whenever i was praying and tongues issue started, i will start fighting hard to stop it. Little did i know i was grieving the Holy Spirit. I was also led to start praying at midnight. Whenever i was praying, my palms will begin to vibrate uncontrollably or i would fall down or feel vibrations. But in His mercy, he guided me to know him. I got to listen to Selman, Enenche, Arome's messages on the Holy Spirit. He also led me to Hagin and Hinn's books. That was how i learnt who the Holy Spirit was. I don't want to talk about the supernatural encounters like the healing and deliverance because of time. But, the greatest lesson i have in all this is, it is Jesus that gives the Holy Spirit but not in the fullest measure because you can waste it if you don't understand what is happening. The parable of the talents and how Jesus didn't allow food to waste after feeding the 5000 explains it. It is just like when you give birth to a child, you start with feeding with milk, then pap before you graduate to fufu. Same as it is here, when you receive the Holy Spirit, you need to develop it by reading about him, next fellowshipping with him in prayers, then learn his voice and how to distinguish his from that of flesh and the devil, next be obedient to his voice. It is after this you will begin to see the full manifestation of casting out demons etc. Even in the bible, Jesus trained his disciples for 3yrs, before giving them the gift of the Spirit. So, i would advise anyone to read about it so that you won't waste it like i almost did.

You didn't answer my question.
What extraordinary experiences like the early disciples have you experienced such as performing miracles, prophesying, etc.

DropsMic:
O ye reading this... Do not let yourself be deceived by hook line and sinker Christians.... No be everything them dey forgive. Some things are unforgivable..


Even God is yet to forgive Satan for trying to take over his kingdom

Lol you're a clown.
Good point though.

JourneytoEL:
.You see in Acts 2: 38, Peter said, Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
There are three steps in becoming a good Christian, 1, repent and be born again, 2. water baptism, 3. baptism of the Holy Spirit. It is unfortunate that the devil has succeeded in deceiving people that they only need the first two and they are fine. If you read the entire book of acts, all the gentiles repented, then they were baptized by water and then the apostles baptized them with the Holy Spirit and they spoke in unknown tongues. The way you are you already have the Holy Spirit but you need to be filled with him. They are two ways of getting filled with the Holy Spirit, first by laying of hands by a genuine Christian (may or may not be a pastor). Paul received his own through this method from Ananias. second is to pray for it. I received mine through the second method although it didn't happen immediately. It happened later in a church service and my life since then has never remained the same. You can download Good morning Holy Spirit by Benny Hinn to understand the importance of the Holy Spirit.

Interesting.
Having the Holy Spirit in the bible made the early Christian's perform great exploits like healing, prophesying, holiness, etc.

If you don't mind sharing with us what significant experiences have you had since receiving the Holy spirit?

bigfish3k:
Politicians hired thugs to come and entertain the protesters abi
The hoodlums came out of the BRT bus, I saw it clearly. What of Abuja DSS jeep?
Are ipobs in Lagos?
Who put off the lights?
Who removed cameras?
Who has been lying since that day till now?
Why did their so called camera stopped working at 8pm
The camera would have revealed the truth but they hid and continued blaming ipob. Yoruba ronu

Do you know that if it was in the olden days where we relied on only the Yoruba lying print media there would have been a a war between igbos and yorubas the way Yoruba ronu people peddled lies against igbos. That was how our forefathers were deceived by the Lagos ibadan media which brought hatred between the igbos and yorubas till today but which is fading away and Tinubu is trying to bring it back by trying to ride on it to the presidency.
But thank God for the "soro soke" generation.
We now understand better.

Imagine all the lies of sanwo olu
Imagine that of the army
Imagine Yoruba ronu liers
Imagine you accusing igbos of ransacking oba Palace and going away with the staff of office. Hmnm.
I didn't know that igbos have such influence on yorubas because all the video emanating from the Oba Palace clearly showed Yoruba looking and speaking people.

Make Una sofri sofri dey lie
The internet has rescued us hence the zeal and craze to close it down

At this point it is imperative to let you know that I'm Ineither pro govt nor pro Endsars. Cos both got it wrong.

Now I'll advise you to check the videos of the BRT incidence again and you'll realise that it was not used by the thugs but passengers were scurrying out of it.

Also IPOBs are not only in Lagos but almost every state in Nigeria. Rivers state being a clear proof also the audio broadcast from radio Biafra. (You can contact me on WhatsApp is you have not heard it).

Then I'm not hear to defend Sanwo Olu for lying about the Lekki fiasco. But I'm neither supporting the Endsars movement who forced his hand to request for military I intervention. Cos not only govt was affected but private business owners too were affected by the prolonged Endsars protest even after govt met their short term demands.

Truvel:
E Be Like Say Zubby Michael Don Belong Ooo, 4rm D Look Of Things.

Don't forget he has been linked to controversial pastor Odumeje. Cos apparently no one buys movies these days amd his movies haven't made it to the cinemas where the money now is.

bigfish3k:
I have finished my research and discovered that ipob was not violent before the proscribtion that is why the whole world didn't agree with the Nigerian government on the terrorism tag. He is in London. Why has he not been arrested.
Hope you know that end Sars protesters are also been tagged as terrorists.
The only crime you need to commit in Nigeria now to be tagged a terrorist is to disagree with the government
I saw government owned BRT in Lagos dropping thugs, it even on social media . No arrests of the thugs till now
I also saw in social media DSS unmarked vehicles dropping thugs in Abuja. Their faces were glaring. No arrests till now

You can judge for yourself

Maybe you need to listen to your delusional leader Kanu own up to the responsibility if the EndSars mayhem having incited fellow IPOBians across the country on radio buafra.

By the way if you were social media intelligent you'd read beyond the headlines and actually watch the video and see that the thugs did not come out of the BRT but a bus behind it. Rather it was passengers that were rushing out of the BRT.

That said, did some politicians hire thugs to disrupt the EndSars protest? Most likely. But that does not exonerate those who hijacked the protest to wreak havoc on innocent people's business and properties.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dc-yli2t07rA&ved=2ahUKEwi6hYuo4ZPtAhWr8uAKHXssCFgQwqsBMAB6BAgBEAM&usg=AOvVaw29Ac1CNvu7eiEC24kxTLPs

bigfish3k:
All these false accusations are recent.
That means until recently they were peaceful

Before you lay lies on ipob just go and reply CNN that has done investigation and discovered who the real aggressors are.
It was proven that government supplied thugs that destroyed properties. True or false

CNN reported that govt supplied thugs or you heard that on radio biafra? Facts only pls.

You want to be reminded of your history of violence? Go do your research of why IPOB was proscribed in the first place by Buhari and why Kanu is in hiding. Don't forget to also research Python Dance which was how govt shut you up.

Raydos:
Mammoth I think??


Looks like he just swallowed another 36billion!

Mammoths have trunk. This is more likely a hippo.

bigfish3k:
Which havok? Name the communities they have wrecked havok. Your FG that lies a lot. See the kind of lies they are lying about lekki massacre.
Name the havok if all are not false accusations.
No matter what they say the main topic is referendum

Give them the referendum it can go either way just like Scotland

For starters, you're proscribed in Rivers state because of the mayhem you caused at Obigbo. Which is why Wike is against everything IPOB.

Also in Lagos, it has been proven both from audio recording and video interview of Nnamdi Kanu that you were responsible for hijacking the EndSars protest to destroy properties of the Tinubu, the Oba of Lagos, Looting Shoprite and other malls and even Beheading police officials.

If you're also ignorant of these then I must ask you to do your research before spewing any more gibberish.

bigfish3k:
How can you say no northerner is celebrating them.
When did northerners start liking things of the west. Your kannywood actress wore a western dress and you are calling for her head - exactly what boko haram is fighting for.
Bottles of beer being broken by hisbah - exactly what boko haram is fighting for.
Your musician awaiting to be beheaded for blasphemy - exactly what boko haram is fighting for
Sharia implemented in 12 northern states - exactly what boko haram is fighting for.
The CJN asking that the constitution should be amended to accommodate for more sharia inputs - exactly what boko haram is fighting for.
And you say northerners are not celebrating them and implementing their demands. Hmnm

What about the Dapchi video where villagers were hailing and celebrating them.

Remember ipob is just asking for referendum which is a democratic instrument which the Nigerian state has refused

Your ignorance in political issues is almost insulting.

So IPOB is asking for referendum by wreaking havoc and spreading tribal hatred?

I think at this point I need ask if you can even disambiguate IPOB from BIAFRA.

bigfish3k:
Don't we have people fighting ipob in the east?
Aren't the governors fighting them?
Some fight them and some celebrate them.

When boko haram returned some Dapchi girls, didn't you see how the vilkagers celebrated them?
So you can see that some fight them while others celebrate them.

NB: see how you are busy comparing ipob and boko haram as if they are the same thing.
You forgot that ipob have a clearly defined request - referendum - while boko does not have but are only inclined to destruction

Ignorance s very loud.
You're the only one who doesn't know what BH is fighting which is westernization. It is a religious and stupid fight which is why you won't see any Northerner celebrating them.
IPOB on the other hand is fighting to not only secede but destroy the country if their demands are not granted.

Atleast do a little research before replying. You're embarrassing your hero Kanu and your fellow IPOBians.

bigfish3k:
So granting presidency to somebody appointed by terrorist boko haram as their chief negotiator is OK.
If this is OK then ipob is also good to go

You're foetal level of seductive reasoning is almost chronic.
BH is a terrorist group even Northerners are fighting.
Now imagine, if your creative faculty has not been discredited, that Northers celebrate BH the way igbos celebrate IPOB?

I painfully hope now you see how your argument makes no sense at all.

bigfish3k:
A terrorist group that is granted amnesty. Is that one a terrorist group?
A terrorist group that helped the north win power.

So stop complaining about ipob as a reason why igbos can't rule because another terrorist group has produced a president

It's almost like a curse, you will never understand your problem because as far as you're concerned IPOB threatening to divide the country through violence should be compensated with presidency of the same country you call a zoo and try everything in your little power to undermine.

Your IQ is clearly running on negative.

bigfish3k:
Why?
others like OPC and boko haram succeeded in producing presidents for their region because nobody was blackmailing them with it the way ipobs are being blackmailed even though our political leaders are hitting them hard unlike how OPC and boko are treated with kid gloves

EDdiat
Is Boko Haram not proscribed a terrorist group just like IPOB?

bigfish3k:
Igbo governors proscribed them as terrorists
Ohaneze has been fighting and condemning them since

Long epistle writer
Oya tell me who again in Igboland you want to fight ipob before you are satisfied. Mtchew
Soro soke generation will defeat all your propaganda

You do not see that as long as there's IPOB even igbos know that there can't be an igbo presidency.

Bodyodour:
Nawa oo!! Just because I helped her with small money during lockdown now,she has turned me into her fake lover because of birthday. Why are some girls always degrading themselves because of small stuffs ? If not that I hate cheating, I would have asked her of sex.
You girls should stop all this nonsense,stop making urselves worthless before guys.

This happens only in w scenarios;

1. The guy is too young for the girl he's dating. He's not yet making money or he's not making enough money. That said, he should date according to his budget. 15k is actually so meagre she shouldn't even have complained.

2. The girl is materialistic and after all her lies as a slay queen, she is unable to back it up by giving a bday worthy of a slay queen.

Simplyleo:
Non negotiable?

Replace Buhari in which country? Same zoo?

Lol

I was hoping to read why he was awarded but unfortunately thanks to poor journalism it wasn't mentioned.

That said, I don't dispute his cry for igbo presidency. But unfortunately it would have been considerable of he and other igbo leaders condemned Kani and IPOB for the mayhem and carnage they inflicted on Nogeria and Nigerians.

Even Igbos don't trust themselves so how can you trust them with other tribes talkless of becoming President of diversified nation like Nigeria?

As much as I would want an Igno presidency who could probably grow Nigeria economically die to their entrepreneurial prowess, the lack of trust remains an inhibition. No Party, APC or PDP would flag an Igbo presidency. No even the nascent party for the youths would risk it.

Igbos have to prove they have the interest of Nigeria at heart and not Biafra.


Honestly I have nothing against Biafra. If you ask me every geopolitical zone should sustain itself- East, West, South-South and North.
Nigetia experienced it's greatest development under geopolitical zone.