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 Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Proper To Label Pastors As Crooks? by N101: 9:12pm On Jan 25, 2010 |
Pastor AIO:Did you not read this? [Quote author=Joagbaje] Must they be poor like you to serve Jesus. If the faith they teach work for others why wont it work for them. 2 Cor. 8:9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich. [/quote]Speaking of which, Pastor AIO uhm. . .I was hoping you could dash me 1K  |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Proper To Label Pastors As Crooks? by N101: 9:01pm On Jan 25, 2010 |
I would suggest that some of you consider denying the said pastor the oxygen of publicity. It only makes him think he is right even if he himself is distorting scripture for his own purposes. Think about it: he didn't have to use his real name to post here, but he didn't expect the NL Inquisition. Welcome to Nairaland Pastor Joe!  As for those who think pastors only teach giving, I think you only speak for yourselves and your experience of Church. joagbaje: Many of You are missing the focus of this thread. The question is not : "CAN A PASTOR STEAL?" Some on Nairaland gives everybody the impression that every pastor is a thief , and if you give money in churches ,you wasted your money on theives and crooks, it would have been better to give it to the poor .I think you strain at gnats and swallow camels with this one. If a Road Safety Officer gives me a fine for a traffic offence and he asks for "a little something" (i.e. money) to get out of giving me a ticket, would that mean all Road Safety Officers are crooks? No, but if my experiences mean the majority ask for money so as not to issue me with a ticket, then it would be safe to say the majority are crooks!! [list] [*]It is not unscriptural to give money in church, but some of the manipulative language and demands used to achieve this is unscriptural. [*]If the pastor is "living large" and there are people in the congregation suffering and in need, yet there are continuous demands on the congregation's money, there is an inherent imbalance there. [/list] I think you missed that point that others have tried to reiterate time and time again, those same poor who - from your comments - are poor through lack of faith, are the same ones Jesus did not ignore, even if wealthy and better off citizens did. Not being one to generalise as per your original question, the long and short of it is yes, it is proper to label SOME pastors as crooks. For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, so that you through His poverty might become rich 2 Cor 8:9.Does "rich" in this context only allude to material wealth? I've noticed that you've not answered my question: Is it then wrong for someone to be poor and serve Jesus or is this poverty selective? Does that mean it is God's will for every Christian to be materially rich? Your word is not the final word and your view - though right in your own eyes - does not make everyone else's wrong. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Proper To Deny A Congregation The Right To Worship In Their Mother Tongue? by N101: 11:15pm On Jan 24, 2010 |
[quote author=Sisi_Kill link=topic=334614.msg5373507#msg5373507 date=1264273960]It's not just in naija, even in America. I know at least 3 Nigerian churches where the pastors get mad as the mad hatter should any member speak coz language other than English. It.'s so silly because not everyone speaks English, especially the older members. One time this old woman came up to give testimony and she sang her praise worship song in Yoruba, me course well wishers joined her and it went longer than planned. The pastor was on happy. When it came time to preach, he talked about it saying members had to be respectful of the foreigners in church. First of all, how about respecting your own culture and secondly, there no freaking foreigners in the church, they already already their own English speaking churches. What's ironic is that the few foreign visitors to the churche have loved it coz it was different from what they were used to. . .what we are trying to be. It's sad really coz it's only Nigerians who do this. I've been to a hispanic church, a polish church, a Greek church and they all spoke their languages.[/quote]In a way I can understand that, in another I don't. This is not unique to Nigerian churches. Many churches have found a way around this, one church arrangement springs to mind; there was translations for those whose first language wasn't English. When someone wanted to give a testimony, there was always a translator available. I'm sure it's not that difficult for Nigerian churches to do the same if they do not want to have services in specific languages. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Proper To Deny A Congregation The Right To Worship In Their Mother Tongue? by N101: 11:11pm On Jan 24, 2010 |
@ poster It only makes sense if the congregation consists of diverse languages. Where the congregation is predominantly of one group or another, then it would make sense for a service in that language. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: What Happened to Your Ancestors Who Didn't Know Christ? by N101: 11:07pm On Jan 24, 2010 |
Horus:Your "relegion" diatribe makes no sense. Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, Hinduism and Jainism are classed as religions but come nowhere near your definition. The word comes from the latin verb "relegare" or "religare". I suggest you do your research properly and not allow for delusional definitions to be stated as some kind of fact. |
| Nairaland General › Re: Why Are We Hiding Our Identities? by N101: 10:56pm On Jan 24, 2010 |
H2O2:None. But it would be nice to be able to interact via email or in person even if some of us choose not to show our pics. I agree with Muhsin - it would be nice if we were allowed to PM one another. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Proper To Label Pastors As Crooks? by N101: 10:13pm On Jan 24, 2010 |
Joagbaje:Is it then wrong for someone to be poor and serve Jesus or is this poverty selective? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Proper To Label Pastors As Crooks? by N101: 10:11pm On Jan 24, 2010 |
If someone misappropriates money, that is stealing. If someone chooses not to be accountable financially to the church from whom tithes are gleaned, it's another form of robbery. If anyone has set up a separate system for generating money in the church but it is not shown in the church accounts, that could be considered fraudulent. When someone asks for money to pray for you, that is fraudulent. Are there pastors who steal? Yes. Are there pastors who are crooks? Yes. A crook can be labelled such irrespective of calling or occupation. As far as I'm aware, those who steal - in whatever form that takes - know they had no special dispensation for this, it is not a remit of their "calling". Just because someone appears to be "God's anointed" does not make them immune from fraud, stealing or robbing. Judgement begins with the house of God and as far as I can see, Pastors and church leaders are not immune from this. Incidentally, the objective of tithing is not to give to get - if that is the case the tither has already received their reward. God allows the rain to fall on the just and unjust, why should tithing make Christians exempt from difficulties? Is it an attempt to bribe God, because that is how it sounds. @Ojame, I get you, having seen things from a different angle where the mess that some churches submitted as their accounts had to be corrected externally (the equivalent of "special measures"  . |
| Romance › Re: Why Are More People Losing Their Virginity B4 Marriage? by N101: 1:42am On Jan 24, 2010 |
In the so-called sexual revolution no one wins. Virginity is no longer valued just like people thinking having a faith or belief in God is irrelevant in the 21st Century. People see sex as a right and not a privilege and nothing you will say will change that. Expect others to have a different moral outlook to you, but don't ever expect any agreement on matters such as this. C'est la vie. |
| Romance › Re: Marriage. . . Why Do It? by N101: 1:31am On Jan 24, 2010 |
It's a difficult question to answer if you're not married or engaged. Why not find out from those who are married or engaged why they intend to/got married? Incidentally, there are other threads in existence on the subject. |
| Forum Games › Re: (Forum Game) Artists Names In Alphabetic Order by N101: 5:36pm On Jan 23, 2010 |
Earl Klugh |
| Romance › Re: Why Do Men Find It Hard To Love Their Women In Relationships? by N101: 3:36pm On Jan 23, 2010 |
^^A very sensible question, which is answered in Ephesians 5. Very easy but some men still don't - or choose not to - get it: 25 And you husbands must love your wives with the same love Christ showed the church. He gave up his life for her 26 to make her holy and clean, washed by baptism and God's word. 27 He did this to present her to himself as a glorious church without a spot or wrinkle or any other blemish. Instead, she will be holy and without fault. 28 In the same way, husbands ought to love their wives as they love their own bodies. For a man is actually loving himself when he loves his wife. 29 No one hates his own body but lovingly cares for it, just as Christ cares for his body, which is the church. 30 And we are his body. 31 As the Scriptures say, "A man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one." 32 This is a great mystery, but it is an illustration of the way Christ and the church are one. 33 So again I say, each man must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband. Note that there is more written to husbands as to how to love their wives (6 verses) than about wives submitting to husbands (3 verses). Paul even had to spell it out for men in a way he didn't for women. Do you think that it is possibly because submitting is easier for women than loving is for men? Some people joke a lot about going off with another woman if they don't get what they want from their spouse but seriously, do you think the reason why a lot of women don't submit to a man is simply her lack of respect for/trust in him? If "love", as some have already said, seems to consist of the material things you can give a woman, don't you think that the emotional investment reaps greater benefits than any trinket or gift can? Note that to "honour" someone means to treat them as if they are worth something to you. The day you dishonour them, you treat them as if they're worth nothing to you. Once a woman's heart is closed to a man rarely if ever will it open again. Women are emotional beings; if a man wants submission he better be prepared to deposit in her emotional account. [list][*]Make the effort to listen to her yabbing away about her day or something that happened. Don't just "uh-huh", actively make an effort to listen and respond. By the way not every problem requires a solution, most times all it really requires is a listening ear. It may go against everything within a man but she will appreciate it! [*]It's the little things that count; the odd gift may be appreciated, but doing something practical like helping with the housework, peeling a yam or putting on the kettle, keeping the children occupied, answering the phone or running interference when necessary makes a bit difference in a busy woman's day.[/list] People want to get into something if there's something in it for them - the husband & wife relationship cannot be pigeon-holed this way. Most people are committed to nothing and in the slightest breeze they weaken and bail. Marriage requires compromise, it requires going with the ebbs and flows, and it also entails a fight to stand for something when others choose to cheat, lie and deceive. So long as both are in agreement, that woman will submit to her husband without hesitation, and that man will earnestly and sincerely love his wife without consciously thinking about it. If people aren't willing to give or sacrifice anything for the sake of another, and if they want their nice quiet life to remain so, don't marry. Simples. |
| Education › Re: Which Nigerian Tribe Did The Word Wahala Originate From by N101: 1:15pm On Jan 23, 2010 |
It's my favourite word - I love how it sounds as it rolls off the tongue |
| Romance › Re: A Lesson About Why Men Don’t Pursue Women by N101: 5:29am On Jan 23, 2010 |
[/quote]mastalee:Sorry, can't agree with you, this post makes no sense unless you have a fixation with shoes or "cheap" values. kokoye: |
| Food › Re: Kfc In Nigeria by N101: 7:58pm On Jan 22, 2010 |
I don't see what the fuss is about. If KFC is good enough, it will survive. Chances are people will go for it because it's a novel idea, once that wears off KFC may simply fold. I have seen this happen before. So far there's only one branch, best to adopt a "watch and see" attitude. |
| Family › Re: Must A Man Share The Same Bedroom With The Wife? by N101: 7:51pm On Jan 22, 2010 |
This is funny. There is no hard and fast rule about sleeping in the same bed as your spouse. I'm the one who - supposedly - causes the disturbance, so I alter my routine to suit. Marriage is about compromise. If you have a house with enough rooms, by all means it will be easy to sleep in separate rooms. Just make sure they're not at opposite ends of the house (very creepy!) On the other hand if that isn't for you, invest in a Super King-sized bed. There's enough space in it for you to pretend to be sleeping on your own. You can banish her clutter elsewhere |
| Family › Re: Marriege Mismatch (90 Year Old Man Vs 24 Yrs Old Girl) by N101: 11:45pm On Jan 20, 2010 |
Not sure if I believe this. In any case, maybe she was expecting he would have passed on before she was expected to fulfill his request. Or maybe his desire for the babe kept him alive  |
| Family › Re: A Baby Boy Or Girl First? by N101: 3:52pm On Jan 16, 2010 |
[quote author=mama-gee link=topic=380558.msg5310609#msg5310609 date=1263427158]I know most men who would prefer having boys before girls.[/quote]Until they hear "it's a girl". . . and see how wrapped up in her Daddy gets, how he runs at the slightest cry, manages to play with her when she's doing her pretend games, and how suspicious he is of the boys who call the house for her. Watching a father and his daughter is truly a sight to behold! |
| Family › Re: Would You Keep Your Aged Parents Or Inlaws With You? by N101: 3:33am On Jan 16, 2010 |
What if you don't live in the same country and there are no relatives to look after them. What then? |
| TV/Movies › Re: Patience Ozorkwor's Movies by N101: 8:04pm On Jan 15, 2010 |
Another Patience Ozorkwor film, $1 (One Dollar) - brilliant film. In my humble opinion I think she's one of the better older actresses - she makes it seem real rather than sounding like she's reciting lines. I've been trying to find Mother-in-Law for ages without success  |
| Romance › Re: Why Do Men Find It Hard To Love Their Women In Relationships? by N101: 9:23pm On Jan 14, 2010 |
Bokoharam:Unfortunately the same can't be said for human beings. |
| Romance › Re: Why Do Women Find It Hard To Be Submissive In Relationships? by N101: 9:17pm On Jan 14, 2010 |
I laugh in Japanese - whenever I hear that "Westernisation" is to blame for Nigerian marriages or society's ills I have to laugh. How is this "Westernisation" quantified? About 100+ years ago, women in the so-called "Western" world didn't enjoy this "Westernisation" that some of you speak of. Where was "Westernisation" when women were seen as a man's property? Or when a man was allowed to beat his wife and pretty much get away with it? What about not allowing women a basic education? Or women dying in childbirth with little medical help? How about when a woman couldn't work without her husband's permission? Or couldn't vote? It was only in the past hundred plus years that life for the "Western" woman began to change. They could vote. They could work. They could get an education. Please don't insult my intelligence by using "Westernisation" as some kind of measure by which Nigerian women are judged. Speaking of which - @ poster, go back and read the entire thing and come with a sensible argument. One (wife submitting) cannot exist independently of the other (husband loving). By the way, your poll is incorrect; it is about submission, not obedience. In the Scriptural context, obedience is between master-slave, parent-child and ruler-subject, NOT husband and wife. |
| Culture › Re: Why Do We Spend So Much On Funerals? by N101: 8:28pm On Jan 13, 2010 |
mendax:True word, I can't think of a greater insult. There was a situation recently where the mother was ill, it was only when she became unconscious that the younger sister found out her elder sister (who the mother lived with) hadn't done anything and rushed the mother to hospital. Unfortunately she died not long after admission. The younger sister wanted the funeral rites over and done with soonest, nothing flashy but significant enough for their mother. However the rest of the family, who couldn't be bothered when the mother was ill had their way, a big lavish funeral. I think it pained her more than anything else that the money wasn't spent keeping their mother alive was suddenly found for this extravagant gesture. I'm sure this scenario is repeated around Nigeria. |
| Politics › Re: REPORT: Yar'adua Is Brain-Damaged by N101: 10:37pm On Jan 11, 2010 |
You think they'd learn something from the Cubans - no one handles propaganda like them! When Fidel was ill they issued statement after statement. Eventually they produced footage of a somewhat thinner President conversing with members of the government. In the end there was a peaceful transition of power from Fidel to Rafael and we still see interviews and footage of Fidel. This current situation and the lack of information makes a mockery of any supposed democracy we have. It's an insult to right thinking Nigerians. |
| Politics › Re: Terror List: Close Islamic Schools And Be Delisted - Us Tells Nigeria by N101: 12:27pm On Jan 10, 2010 |
The real issue isn't Islam, or even Islam as practiced in Nigeria. The situation in Nigeria hasn't gone unnoticed by the press, the world at large and least of all by security agents around the world. Those in bold highlight the issues that have led to Nigeria being put on the terror list: yeswecan: Getting our name off the watch list shouldn't be our target BECAUSE its pointless given the present situation in Nigeria today. . . . . lets clean up instead of trying to invest on image laundering. manny4life: As the Washington Post and Washington Times reports based on the U.S. envoy to Nigeria on religious issues and so on, it stated that NIGERIA, although its government did not play any role in terrorism or extremism, neither does it support it, however, its federal and state government has been unresponsive to the religious issues in the north which would be somewhat assumed as an indirect support of religious violence. Honestly, I don't think Nigeria should worry now about the blacklisting, instead focus on curbing religious violence in the North kadzukky: redsun: Nigeria is battling in the storm of human moral decadence at its worst,anything is possible,the "jungle" is disintegrating into a waste land,a land full of idiots.If the rest of the world can see this, why aren't our leaders addressing the obvious rather than issuing silly ultimatums as the Senate attempted to do recently? We can play ostrich with our heads buried in the sand, but something happening on our doorstep doesn't mean there won't be repercussions further afield at a later date. That date is now catching up with us and unfortunately the innocent along with the guilty get tarnished as a result. |
| Romance › Re: How A Joke Showed Her True Colors : by N101: 10:34pm On Jan 09, 2010 |
@ poster You pretty much showed your true colours as well. In any case, it seems neither of you were serious. |
| Romance › Re: Sister To Elder Brother's Friend Relationship by N101: 10:25pm On Jan 09, 2010 |
@ poster The man is a wimp. Why is he expecting his gf to do his work? The brother knows the sister, and he seems to know the side of this guy that is a player. It's for him (the bf) to convince the brother that he's for real. If he's holding the wedding ransom until she speaks to her brother, it doesn't sound like he's serious. He's the problem, not the sister, HE needs to address it, with her support. |
| Romance › Re: What Will Make You Beat Your Gal/wife? by N101: 12:27pm On Jan 09, 2010 |
I'm curious, did any of your fathers beat your mothers or vice versa? Because only in that environment would someone see beating their spouse as acceptable under any circumstance. If you didn't grow up in that kind of household regardless of what went on between your parents or those who brought you up, then you do them a disservice by beating your spouse. They tried to raise you as best they could and this is the best you could do. BEATING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING IS A CHOICE - I hope you are very prepared for what will happen to you as a result. Your shame after the damage you have inflicted on someone else won't make it go away. When her/his family have you at knifepoint, when you are scarred physically, when someone else kicks you senseless in this endless circle of violence that you have started, don't say you weren't warned. * SMH * |
| Travel › Re: How's Life In Southeast London For Africans/nigerians? by N101: 11:07pm On Jan 08, 2010 |
joxiri:This is not new, UEL has been rated poorly for years, almost for as long as it has existed as a university (and the polytechnic it replaced wasn't rated particularly highly either). Unless you are graduating in the sciences with a first class degree you will struggle to get your qualification recognised, much less a Masters. A friend said to me years ago that it's not where you do your first degree that's important, it's where you do your Masters that counts. In any case, the Russell Group is a relatively recent thing, it didn't exist before 1994. @ poster - you'll find the further you are to the centre (and post codes ending in 1 like SE1 tend to be part of central London), the more expensive things are. If you can get residence 40 minutes away count yourself lucky. There isn't a large Kenyan community in SE1 but there's a very diverse community there. You probably won't be too far from London South Bank University and I'm sure there's a community of Kenyans there. Good luck wherever you're based. |
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