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I agree with some of the other posters; which HTC phone are we talking about? At the same time, which model Blackberry?

Depends on preference. If having a keypad is a must, go for the BB. Buy an Android phone, you won't regret it.

How about comparing the BB Torch and HTC Desire? Or HTC Wildfire and BB Curve 8520?

@ diakim

I'd have to disagree with some of the essentials here, bearing in mind that this was posted five years ago.

I've never used FM on a radio, neither have I used the MP3 as a player. I'm one of those people with a separate MP3 player and digital camera, so it was never that important to have them on a phone. In fact, I only use my phone's camera where having a camera would be tricky. Yes, I'm one of those with a phone camera who hardly uses it! As for MP3s, I only use them as ringtones, nothing else. I've never sought out nor bought a phone with FM radio, and I don't know anyone who has. Different strokes for different folks you could say.

GPRS makes sense in the current environment, and a suitable screen for web viewing. However, there's a Nokia 7710 knocking around which the network provider (a) didn't think existed and (b) didn't have the settings for. This was true 5 years ago and is still true today; fortunately a solution was found.

The one thing I have always wanted my phones to have is Bluetooth and a memory card slot. Surprisingly in the past 5 years I've only acquired one memory card even though I've had about 5 or 6 different phones. Ironically they all used different formats (Sony Ericsson, Samsung, Nokia).

Good post though.

lagerwhenindoubt:
This sort of approach works well with the BBC because in such a society, there are negative collateral consequences that can grow into a major PR disaster on a national scale. the BBC has come to understand this and have taken face-saving measures. (not that they were honestly apologetic if you read the retraction) but the effect is the same nonetheless, the offensive news is off the web (after been read, blogged and spread by literally thousands of Internet users world-wide)  

In Nigeria, there are negative collateral consequences as well and they continue to send reverberating negative PR shock-waves around the globe but there is no amount of expression (positive or negative, passive or aggressive, peaceful or war-like) that will bring about face-saving retractions or reforms or change in Nigeria. What we have are shameless leaders in nearly all spheres of activity from corporate to governmental, an aggressive registering of opinion as was done here will have no effect on our corrupt leaders. none at all  

Totally agree with you.  Complaining works in this case, but I'm curious if the same energy is used to protest against come of the actions of our legislators etc.  But I guess it's one rule for them and another for us, because we expect justice elsewhere except for at home, right?

Granted it was a cheap shot, the irony is that the same comment made by the BBC journalist about 419ers during the world cup was made recently on a Nigerian radio station.

@ ChinenyeN, suicide isn't "culturally acceptable" anywhere in the world. The difference is that it isn't disguised as what it isn't and people don't treat the subject like it's taboo. Being religious/God fearing does not make Nigerians less likely to commit suicide-like Aqrius Age stated, people would rather blame others or bury their head in the sand than call it what it is.

This story seems incomplete First, was James soley responsible for the safe & was the combination known by others? Was Greg supposed to have the combination? And why was Greg eventually fired?

@ poster, do you know anything about the LRA & the havoc they have caused in Northern Uganda before you posted? Because if you had bothered to be informed you would know that, unlike Jos, this is not a Christian vs Muslim thing, or even one ethnic group against another.  The LRA are equal opportunity murderers with no respect for God,  government or people. They have indiscriminately followed this policy for decades, not years or months; this is not the first LRA mass grave uncovered either.

I'm of the opinion that the US media doesn't know how to do news so their views don't rate with me. As for Nigeria being 'jacked up', it is and isn't, depending on the angle you're looking at it from.

The sad reality is that this goes on but most of the times, the victims don't say anything and keep it to themselves.  That programme opened the floodgates.

Sadly, it is the dirty secret perpetuated in families and communities that is rarely if ever addressed.  Sexual abuse - whether incestuous or not - against any child is wrong, those responsible should be punished with the full force of the law behind the victims.  It is perversion, plain and simple.

Sometimes culture used to perpetuate sexual abuse (respect for and obedience to those older than you means the victims won't tell or fight back).  Often it is plain bullying and manipulation for someone to have their way sexually with the victim who is weaker than them.  Sex is used by the perpetrator to dominate and subjugate its victims.  Often people - the non-abusing parent or family member - will be in denial about what's going on, even when it happens right under their noses.  They do what they do to keep a roof over their heads, food on the table, maintain good family relations or connections, or to present a front for society to see while their family is decaying and falling apart behind closed doors.

If the abused feel that they have an outlet and that there would be no repercussions, trust me, they wouldn't air their views on a radio station call-in programme.  Offenders as a rule don't feel ashamed even when they are confronted with the truth.  They will often blame the victim. 

I'm not even sure how you'd go about tackling this apart from people developing an awareness of what sexual abuse is and signs of sexual abuse.  Victims of sexual abuse should not feel ashamed of something they had no control over, but I do believe offenders should be named and shamed.

Shinor:
I have followed closely most postings here and see the typical "Nigerianess" running through. Everytime someone throws up an idea, the usual response is "It can't happen here". Please spare me.
If anyone had said Turai would run this country 2 years ago, the response would have been the usual Nigerian reply "It can't happen here".
In Anambra, the government house was burned down and a sitting Governor removed by an erstwhile unknown God Father. If someone had postulated that thought before the incident, we would have heard "It can't happen here".
Fellow countrymen, we live in a society where everyone is looking for opportunities to increase their daily food intake.
If a coup should happen now, the first thing is for individuals / groups to weigh the options. If they are favoured, they will support the coup. If they feel marginalised, they will complain.
A coup can happen in Nigeria. Who will stop it? Our defenceless civilians?
Do we expect a 2001 graduate who is still unemployed to go and defend democracy?
Just this week, some military leaders were picked up in Turkey.
Anything can happen anywhere.
We lack a unified spirit of patrotism needed to counter any threat to our democractic structures.
As it has always been in Nigeria, it has always been Everyman for himself, God for us all.
Until that changes, we remain open and vulnerable.

Just my thoughts

On point (in bold), I totally agree with you.  That is the issue that no one will address.

If the beating of a civilian that took place by navy officers two years ago is anything to go by,  do any of you seriously think that the military in Nigeria have the best interests of the nation at heart?

Thank you alimat2 and muggle for bringing some degree of sensibility here.

We can sit here and sling accusations and counter accusations, who's more ignorant than the other.  If this thread is anything to go by, it's a display of ignorance that shows on both sides of the religious divide.  It makes no sense and achieves nothing at the end of the day.

I find it annoying that a perfectly decent thread can be so stupidly derailed.  How about some of you commenting on the actual fatwa rather than running off at the mouth?

And we wonder why Nigeria is the way it is today - SMH.

@ poster

Sorry to hear of your loss, I understand how you feel.  Somtimes it's like the last conversation is played over again and again, you try to will yourself into changing the storyline.  Sadly, the reality is that they were no longer with us and we can't change the past.

They say "time is a healer", and it's true, though no one can tell you how long it can take.  Just take each day as it comes.  Don't think too much about what you didn't say, or whether anything you could have said might have changed the outcome. 

There are some things on this side of heaven that we will never understand.  Just be thankful that your paths crossed in this life.  In future, should another opportunity arise, grab it with both hands and don't live to regret it.

helperzz:
The christians used the roman warriors to gain political power.In the beginning of christianity the christians are so weak that even the great writers of that time like josephus did not know they exist.But after enticing the roman warriors into christianity by propaganda that their responsible for the victory of romans in various battles.They gained political power the pope which was the god of christian of that time issued various decrees that those who have sinned and fought and die in battle would be forgiven and will enter paradise.Open your eyes to see.Haven't you ever thought about it that christianity was founded by paul who never at any time be with jesus.The only original book in the new testament were those written by paul(paul's story books) the other gospels were written after every of jesus disciple are dead.The bible is not enough an evidence because it is a human's work contains too much contradiction.Seek knowledge.The US are the roman crusaders of today,that is why all christians support their action.Stop spreading rumour support it with concrete evidence.

Christianity was never a subjugating religion until it got into the hands of Europeans.  The Pope represents Roman Catholicism, which - as its name suggests - came about when the Roman Empire was a dominant force at the time.  Roman Catholicism is not and has never been the only face of Christianity in history, least of all from its inception.

I think you need to take your own advice and go back and read the evolution of Christianity.  You seem to be doing a "Dan Brown", mixing fact with fiction.

May I suggest if you want to continue this, start another thread rather than derail the current one.

kvolander: The best way to solve a problem is aiming the root cause. This particular message should be preached to the muslims kids in the interior villages (before they become invoked) instead of turning them to almajiris.

Those are the kind of people this fatwa is aimed. I would like to read it though.

Dis Guy:
the question should be-- how come the media took so long spread the messages of people like this instead of jumping on the bandwagon

Totally agree with you. The media is more interested in the extremists than moderates and fundamentalists (note: not all fundamentalists are extremists!). Maybe it was the 600 pages that got the media's attention, lol.


Listened to an interview with him yesterday, it was very interesting and he articulated his points very well. Would that we could hear the voice of people like him more often.

Would love to hear a head-to-head discussion with him and someone like Abu Hamza

Some of you are talking at cross-purposes, the fact that some of you ask a question without checking the reply well makes me wonder about your cognitive skills.  

Some of you were all over the place - please explain to me how a "jobless" man could afford to marry.  Borrow from family?  Get himself into debt to impress a woman?  That is just silly.  As for a man earning more, what's the advantage?  So if he takes a lower paying job you'll divorce him?  Finance does not equate to respect, unless a person worships money, which it seems some men and women here are guilty of.

Guys like bawolomo, Siena and axeman85 have basically said it all for the (sensible) male perspective.  There is a difference between a lazy jobless man, and a man with potential and character but with no job.

Likewise, The Amaka, ThoniaSlim and rotiaku also make valid points from the (also sensible) female perspective; some kind of income, no matter how small, is a contribution, but a man should postpone marriage when he is jobless.

Note that the majority of women who responded did NOT say they wanted a millionaire or loaded guy.  Yet some of you guys fly with the wind that they are looking for rich men.  There are some women out there who are money-hungry, but not all Nigerian women fall into that category, any more than presuming that all Nigerian men are unfaithful.  Both are untrue and cheap shots.

Some people have been in relationships for a while where the man has graduated and is jobless, that is different to meeting someone new who is jobless.  Likewise, there's a difference between losing a job after marriage and having none before marriage.  

It is better to marry someone who is sensible with good character and potential than someone unscrupulous with money.  No one should underestimate a jobless man, but one should be able to differentiate jobless liberty takers versus a jobless man for whom it is only a temporary condition. Love isn't blind.

supereagle:
Jamo are descendants from Nigeria tru slave trade. study your history.

cultey:
Is this authentic?

Let me know before I start rejoicing that Bob Marley is my long lost Uncle.  

Cultey, I suggest you do some research, then come back and stake your claim   

cultey:
There's nothing wrong with your comment, I just want to use your illustration to highlight one of my pet-peeves.

Even if someone has an "accent", is it our native language?

How is it that to America or wherever, everyone else have an accent?

Aren't Americans supposed to talk like Brits?

I am doing everything possible not to lose my accent.

If you don't understand what I'm saying

Come and beat me now.  

We're not talking about "native language", we're talking specifically about someone's accent.  My point is my friend's born-and-bred Jamaican nephew found it patronising and annoying when English people said he didn't sound Jamaican at all because he didn't speak in a strong "just off the boat" accent.

I don't care how Americans or anyone else speaks, my accent is an inherent part of me, just as everyone else's is to them.  But to judge someone because they don't fit into some vocal stereotype is the highest form of ignorance.

Sorry I can't make your day by issuing you with the beating you've requested 

madlady:
Cheers my brother.


Why was this thread put on the front page, many more important issue than this on NL .

Uhm, the pedant in me couldn't help but notice that the word Caribbean is spelt wrong. . .   

follypimpi:
Brethren,I go to JA raves from Bham to Gloucestershire and so on,where there are propa yardie and in fairness none of em smoke weed,they r cool headed pple who love to have fun.they call me JAFRICAN,the wannabes are to be blamed,who thinks being a bad man is when u smoke weed & hoodies.

No probs brother, Jamaicans, like every other people, span a whole range.  The wannabes are mimics, get close enough and you'll find them to be Jafakeians

romeo:
hmmmmmm some Nigerians are still dreaming of becoming white people!!

whatever happened to the British knighthood? sir this,  sir that!!
all the nobles of the European society? prince this, prince that? counts, countesses, dukes, duchesses, their this and their that

mr. i want to be like oyibo it is called culture and the west u want to be like have theirs and we will keep ours

Ah but you fail to realise that you can't buy a lot of these titles.  Even if you can they probably won't be recognised outside of the certificate issued, let alone in any other country.  You definitely can't buy a "sir". 

Neither have I ever met anyone in the West who was an engineer known as "Engineer" - it simply isn't seen as a title in the West.  In any case, how many people in the Western world know a Sir somebody, Lord this or Prince that? VERY VERY few.  However I'm sure between the two of us we know a lot of chiefs.

While I understand the point you're trying to make, you simply can't compare the African situation with the Western one.

@ madlady

I swear we meet the wrong kind of Jamaicans by comparison to follypimpi.

I have a friend, 100% Jamaican, who was asked by someone if she knew where they could get some weed. All because she's Jamaican!  Irony is that she's a staunch church lady    

Her nephew - bless him - got angry because people asked why his spoken English is so good, like people are only used to hearing these "back a' yard" Jamaicans and presume everyone should sound like that.

People who've only met the tattooed, multi-coloured weaved ladies needs to reach a new level.  I've never met these people but I'm aware they exist!!

Anyway Nigerian, Jamaican, same difference to me
_{(lights a flame and steps back)}

I know of quite a few husbands who attempted to teach their wives to drive, of them I only know of one couple where there weren't any quarrels.  One wife stormed out of the car and left him curb crawling, apologetic and pleading with her to get back in.

However, it seems to work better the other way around, when wives teach husbands to drive.

Ndipe:
My statements that any lady who still keeps her maiden name as her last name after marriage is 'sorely lacking respect to her husband' and that I wouldnt be bothered by it is mutually inclusive. It means that while I am not in the position to tell the woman to revert to her new name (wetin concern me), it's still sorely disrespectful to her husband.

I'm not exactly sure how it's "mutually inclusive" or disrespectful to the husband unless the husband has major control issues. 

If the relationship between husband and wife is solid, names mean nothing.  No secure man will let his wife retaining her maiden name come between them.  I'd hate to think she married him simply because his name sounded better than hers 

suprted:
i don't see the big deal.  its not like her taking my name means she loves me more.

H2O2:
Of course, that's the normal course of action when you hurt people.  You should apologize for wrongs.

As per topic,
again
We drag people in the mud and hurt them with our actions in ways other than cheating too, so why should cheating preferentially receive special treatment or require an audience seeking your forgiveness?

No one is pure. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

I have a problem with  your last sentence, I really think you need to put that quote in context.

This is not about "he who is without sin", it is about accountability and acceptance of wrongdoing. That quote does not absolve anyone of their sin, neither does it make anyone's wrongdoing ok.

If a person is wrong, they should admit they are wrong regardless of what the other party has or hasn't done.  To not do so is simply failing to take responsibility for our own actions and - in the context of the quote - trying to scapegoat someone else to cover up our own bad behaviour.

Lankeelambo: I'm sorry about the slap. I dn't know what she told you but thats not the whole story. She had slapped my mum & brother several times before & was still slapping. That was why big bro cldn't talk. Bt i'm really sorry. I jst pray her family accepts her coz she's no good to them either. They gav her 2 my bro @ giv away price & sinc then we've been paying dearly.

luvbooks:
I was wondering if anyone had seen this . . .?

It hasn't gone unnoticed by some of us.  Whether it's true or not is another matter.  I'm presuming the poster would be able to verify these claims unless we're not getting the full story.

Even if it is true, after living rent-free in someone else's house for YEARS he overstepped his position, slapping his brother's wife still isn't justified.  Deal with his own marriage and let his brother deal with his wife.

soreola:
I don't really understand why a woman wouldn't drop her maiden name I believe she said I do which means she is ready to commit to her husband no matter what. In the bible it says that men should leave their parents and cleave to their wife and this should be the same for women. Your identity (not your personality) changes and so should your name. Bearing a name of mrs. Okereke and married to mr. Udechuku doesn't send a message of oneness that ought to be reflected in marriage.

Please explain to me how "oneness" is reflected in a name. What about those who have never married but share the same surname?

tpia:
horrifying, to say the least.


geez.




anyway, na today peeps dey see irony on Nairaland?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-124583.0.html

You might need to explain what "irony" means 

Any luck with this?

What exactly constitutes "looking African", and what do people mean when they say someone "looks African"?

@ poster in all fairness I understand what you were trying to say but it was difficult to follow and not very clear in parts.

It sounds like she has a problem with the truth. Think about it; if you have difficulties with an ex, why go to their house?  Why put yourself in a position where you are vulnerable to them to the point of sleeping with them?  If this man was in her house, she could ask him to leave, no?  She isn't serious.

Don't be blinded by love - she's not worth it.  Walk away with at least some respect for yourself.

@ pafun

While your points may have been valid regarding your friends, they were all over the place.  There's something you mentioned which I'm surprised no one has picked up on, namely:

pafun: When I started it I had no money either but I had listening ears who were willing to help because they could feel my desire.

Tell me, how did you manage to start a business with no money but "listening ears"?  I've never met anyone who was able to start a business solely on ear power.

iz2much:
5110

Saw one of those recently - so that was YOU!

Depends on what you're using your phone for.

If you're going to email a lot, a pretty easy to understand keyboard with a decent screen, go for the Blackberry.

If you're going to do lots of texting, understand the layout and want Bluetooth that will work with everything else, go for the Nokia.

It really depends on what you're going to use your phone for and how much.