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That'll be fantastic; but the smell may ruin all the fun.

What we know for a certainty is that a live human body could ooze lots of cash; there's evidence in many bank accounts. . .

OLAADEGBU:
But do you know how many people who left it until it was too late or that ended up dead or too old to enjoy what the Bible contains which is far greater than gold?

Just sondered: why did you need the USD100 all over it?

Sort of destroys your comment, doesn't it?
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FMK:
christians and Muslims i am really wondering till now about this fact we born we die we do not kow where come from and where we go when we die we are burried our body turn on dust we were inoncetly born without our own feelings what really happens

Regarding the ". . . we do not kow where come from . . . " . . . that could be easily solved by a few blood samples and a good interpreter of the results, don't you think?

Completely, utterly ridiculous.

It ain't happening in your lifetime dude.

So, relax and enjoy the ride.

This ride 's the only one you'll ever get.
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Well, that should have a happy ending then shoudn't it?

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Madukaele:
Can it be true that most people in the world dont see anything wrong in having intimacy before marriage? The think being holy have to do with the mind and not the body? Are people confused or what?

So, your definition of holiness is hinged on what you do with your body before marriage?

What's this your obsession with sex about?
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Kx:
why become a pastor under somebody when u can float your own church?

Apparently, having a cool brand name with a CEO with a jet helps some . . .

iReporter:
… LET US KNOW WHO IS A TRUE PROPHET ONCE AND FOR ALL

Continuing, he said: “When the year is about to start, the leaders of nations would announce to all the spiritual leaders, irrespective of their religions, to submit their assessment of their communication with Almighty God”. When the events begin to come to pass, then they would begin to mark each person’s report. Before the second week of January, we would be able to see who is a true Prophet of God”.

I.diotic idea.

Marking reports for perpetually failing students.

This m-oron forgot that the pass mark for prophecies for a true prophet of God is 100%. And even then he'd still have his work cut out for the future.

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heavnbound:
IF I DON'T SHARE THIS WITH EVERYONE, I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT GOD WILL NOT BE HAPPY WITH ME.
NAIRALAND MODERATORS, I BEG YOU TO PUT THIS POST ON THE HOMEPAGE OF THIS SITE AS IT IS A DIRECT MESSAGE FROM GOD.
Click on this link to see the revelations God opened my eyes to see few days ago.

http://www.divinerevelations.info

God spoke to you and all you got was a message to set up a website?!

You lost a solid chance, poster.

Feel bad some for you, cos when God gets unhappy, stuff - really bad stuff - happens.

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Mufuadamu:
My question remains the same - if he is a conman or if he is a true pastor, leave him alone and you will see - if God is with him - the evidence will be clear.

This is foolish advice.
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davidylan:
There is no christian moral code that outlaws "child labour".

King David:

you make a very good point here.

A related one: there's no Christian moral code that outlaws slavery.

Very moral, this moral code.
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The poster may have been incoherent, but there's no missing the point that Chris O. is a fraud.
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mabell:
1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

So why does the Hebrew God demand that he be loved and feared?

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Another pastor of the apocalypse waiting for a trumpet call.

What a crock!
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Well, at least, we read from the Bible that Satan was one of God's direct creations.

He even tricked God into agreeing to torture Job.

And he wasn't born by a nice-looking Jewish gil who got herself pregnant and announced it was a miracle.

And, he's no pussy cat: started an insurrected, got ousted, and found another place for himself here on earth, where it's definitely much more action than bowing down day and night and singing Hallelujah to the Hebrew tribal god.

Smart chap, if you looked at it.

And, what's more: he actually told Eve the truth in the garden too. Who wouldn't be impressed by a perfect/believable ventriloquist?

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Ndipe:
The resurrection of Jesus Christ is special, because unlike the other ones that took place in the Holy Bible, He never did die again. Rather, He resurrected to Heaven. Lazarus, the son of the widow and the rest who were resurrected eventually died.

So there're at least 2 kinds of resurrections, eh?

Was Paul referring to both, or either? In any case, how do you know?

How do you know that all of the other resurrected people died? There were hundreds, of not thousands of them.

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Interesting points.

Checking on this many many moons ago, one came away surprised at how misinformation - or one's preconceptions - could thororuhgly mislead. The two fellows I recall who'd been steeped in this are substantially well above average intelligence, and frankly, better behaved than most religious people.

That's not easy to miss, going by Mr. Gilmore's words.
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OLAADEGBU:
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

-- Genesis 3:15

Er, didn't the Lord get the order wrong there?

Wouldn't the bruising of the heel preceed the brusing of the head?

And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

-- Genesis 6:5

Okay, so who would be to blame for this scandalous state of affairs?

And, second: isn't the Lord painting with a very wide brush here?

"Every"??

"Continually"??

And Noah did according unto all that the LORD commanded him.

-- Genesis 7:5

Really? Did Noah really build an ark that housed most of the animal species? And, are we all descendants of those people in th ark?
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Chrisbenogor:
Hello guys,
For those guys who do not believe in God, would you play along that you do just to get a favour like say a job opportunity ?

Hey Chris,

this question is relevant in places where it's not illegal to ask of one's religious, or irreligious leaning when jobs are concerned, right?

The Utilitarian response is what's relevant; and heck, it's not necessarily unbiblical.

Abraham and David, friends of the Hebrew tribal God, knew to go utilitarian when it was necessary/convenient. The admonition to tell the truth all the time could easily be showed to be unChristian.

But, of course, we go get really serious with this importnt question. . .
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OLAADEGBU:
Dr. Crane suggested an interesting plan: "Go home and act as if you really love your husband. Tell him how much he means to you. Praise him for every decent trait. Go out of your way to be as kind, considerate and generous as possible. Spare no efforts to please him, to enjoy him. Make him believe you love him. After you've convinced him of your undying love and that you cannot live without him, then drop the bomb. Tell him that you're getting a divorce. That will really hurt him."

So what's this got to do with the bible?

Mr. Crane's advice is not what the bible recommends: the bible says for the wife to respect the husband, and the husband to love the wife. So, this above only shows how impractical the bible's advice could be.
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[quote author=Jackie_25 link=topic=303945.msg5611051#msg5611051 date=1267512405]Bishop Oyedepo is not lying, Covenant University and Landmark University are world class universites, you don't have to agree. As of 2007,Covenant University has about 7,000 students from different countries.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covenant_University
How many universities in Nigeria can foreigners proudly come to for studies?
The church takes care of the poor that care to ask for help through the WSF welfare scheme,that does not stop the chucrch to embark on church projects both home and abroad to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ. Since all you come to winners to do is accuse the servant of God falsely, why don't you stop wasting your time and worship where you will find peace? Or is that how you go from church to church critising? Pls stop wasting your time and find something productive to do.
God blesses people all round including in finances. [/quote]You've got a loooong way to go if you think a world class institution is determined by the nationalites of the students attending it. This is another example of why we need to make an elementary course in logic compulsory in secondary schools.

Another gem: you wrote: "God blesses people all round including in finances." - If that is so, how come there're still those poor people at Winners?

Logic. Compulsory. Secondary; School.
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toba:
It baffles me d way some non religious folks reason.Evrythng is doubted.Yet when there are called to proof what ever they say,they fail

What exactly do you mean?

Nope, they aren't the same.

Christianity borrowed heavily from Judaism, and with full attribution; Christianity presents itself as an improvement over Judaism, and a completion of promises in the Hebrew & Aramaic scriptures.

Islam, hahaha. Heavy plagiarist religion, which, despite the advantage of more than 400 years, couldn't do better than weird desert nomad stories and patently ridiculous ideas passed down from an illiterate merchant who first married a rich cougar, and then descended to depravity by entertaining a little girl of 9 years with his plumbing equipment.
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Pastor AIO:
How isn't Paul's 'argument' relevant to the JW position?

Paul's "argument" is no argument.

It doesn't necessarily follow that because there's a physical body, then there must be a spiritual one. Of course, this does not imply there're no spirutual bodies, only that Paul's "IF" --> "THEN" statement doesn't cut it as logical.

I am not questioning the specialness of Jesus' resurrection. Neither I am questioning whether or not there were others that were resurrected before or after Jesus. Apparently a whole host of saints came out of their graves after Jesus' death. That is not the issue here.

An attempt at escape. Why? Because of resurections will be the vehicle to show that there're spiritual bodies because physical ones do exist, then all resurrections are relevant. That would mean knowing whether Lazarus was raised with a spiritual body, say. He clearly wasn't. That would also imply something special about Jesus' resurrection, which is perhaps the only instance releveant to Paul's "argument".

The issue is whether or not there is such a thing as a spiritual body and whether it is in this form that Jesus is supposed to have risen. Rather than in a physical body. That is what I am concerned with.

This "issue" assumes that there's something special about Jesus' resurrection; there's no point having a discussion with you if you don't see what's an elementary/pedestrian corollary of the proposition.

How does this statement fail to suggest that Christ was raised in a spiritual body. And how does accepting this as evident make one a JW?

You've misunderstood the JW allusion; no time to explain it; the poster to whom the original post is directed probably understands.

cibilola:
I think you are the friend in question!!!!

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Sorry, but are you sure you're thinking right?

Look, there's no way that poster - as is, as presented - would pass any exam in written English. . .

Pastor AIO:
I don't see why it matters whether or not it is a typical JW argument. What I'm concerned with is whether it is a valid argument. Is it?

It matters all when you state "evidently" when nothing is evident.

Paul's 'argument' isn't relevant to the JW position: there were many resurrections in the bible.

In fact, resurrections were pretty much commonplace events then, like meeting your friends on the street.

Lazarus? The son of the widow? And several sevral other nameless people who were resurrected in the bible. What makes one more resurrection special?

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smartkid: er, hmnnn, this friend of yours, do you communicate by email with him/her?

If yes, in what language?

Just asking . . .

Your revered MoGs are proving to be as bad as despots.

Responsible Christians shouldn't be quiet.
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You wrote "evidently . . . " - couldn't miss that: that's a typical JW argument; they're getting to you, even if you don't know and admit it.

Here: Paul's argument may indicate that there're spiritual bodies, but that isn't evident from what he wrote. You need a measure of 'faith' to accept it. And that ought to be enough.

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Aaah.

Here's the thing: the personal experience you have is the "demo" version.

You actually have no 'personal experience' with JWs.

You were quite definitely 'love-bombed' during their meetings.

And you were impressed by how much everyone appeared to love one another, ko?

And you liked how all the bored little kids and adults stayed together in the same hall and followed what was going on, eh?

You ain't seen nothing yet.

First off: there's no better place for an active pedophile to operate than the JW congregations. That's just one.

I've seen you've written something favourable about disfellowshipping; sad. Just shows how little you know of this draconian, devilish, unChristian policy.

And, have you heard there referring to the "wild beast"? You're getting used to their jargons, eh?

Watch your step, my friend; be sure before you dive into what you know quite little about.
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What if a fellow makes a vow to give the church 1 million US dollars by 15 March 2010.

And he's right now on US $250.00 ?

Must he pay anyhow?

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