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gen2genius:
"Men are such dogs"


If you claim it was [b]a dog who impregnated your mum and gave birth to yo[/b]u, then what are you?
It's not hard to know some women's "time of the month"


Dear Tpiah and others who are fond of accusing NL men of being too rude to the women, I await your comments on this!

Must u stoop so low to use this words of a maladroit?

babs787:
@Noetic

You are playing dumb here. Do you have any pic of Jesus to show me or you describe the pic you have and I would show you more than one which shows that the pic you are having could not be real Jesus.

Do u know how silly this sounds?

The topic of this thread says "Beware of Jinn disguising as Jesus" and all I am asking u to do is simply to prove the misinformation. is that too hard?

Since you claim that Jesus talked about Holy Spirit, how many are we having since one is already in existence?

Its still the very same Holy spirit. Do u now agree that mohammed was a plagiarist?

manmustwac:
The followers need the leaders to lead them and the leaders use The religion to get what they want from the followers

and u actually think u just made sense. . .right?

tubabie:
Please dont let the thread disintegrate by being too sensitive, i think he answered earlier in the negative and was just trying to taunt you further.
Intelligence has nothing to do with religion to a large extent
Ma sallam, PEACE!

On the contrary my answer was indeed positive. He was smart to understand that religious rules (islam or christianity) are made for men and not the other way round.Intelligence is uncommon either amongst muslims, christians or atheists. That was my point.

oyb:
you are obviously new here. . .

noetic is a troll for the christian god and his life and happiness  is defined by how many Muslim threads he can hijack and how many muslims he can insult. you're better off paying him no heed.

refer to his signature and profile for more info. you will find for instance, that he spends 90% of his time on nairaland here  

Another meaningless rant.

babs787:
@Noetic

U read me perfectly, could you supply me the pictures of real Jesus and when you do that, I would come up with different pics buttressing my saying.

what are u talking about?

Poor you. U get comprehension problem, he may be dead as a human being but his teachings remains and would be with us for ever hence Jesus saying that the spirit would abide with us forever.

But Jesus did not say that this comforter would come and die?
Jesus did not say that this comforter would be a paedophile, murderer, snatch his adopted's son's wife, kill, amputate, behead and sexually abuse slaves? did He?

safariman:
You wrote: what you have exhibited is called INTELLIGENCE. which is very uncommon.

Question why was it that I exhibited Intelligence, which is very uncommon? hence, the need to ask if you were referring to muslims/Islam

what difference would my answer make? This is pointless.

safariman:
Are you saying Intelligence is uncommon amongst muslims?

well, u are the one that added the "muslims" part.
So, if u say so, then . . . . .

babs787:
@Noetic2

Could you supply the real picture of Jesus and we start from there?

must u constitute a nuisance on every thread? if jinns according to u, act like Jesus, why not just prove it here?

Really? When you interpreted it to be Holy Spirit as said by Jesus, has holy spirit not been in existence since creation? Jesus said he woud send 'another comforter'' which means that the comforter would be like him. How could you say he referred to holy spirit when same has beeen in existence and how many would we be having since Jesus said 'another comforter' which to you means[b] 'another holy spirit'[/b]?

Oya explain sir?

Ridiculous.

Was the holy spirit that existed prior to man dwelling amongst all humans, as at the time of Jesus speech?

If mohammed is/was the comforter, why is he dead now? since he is supposed to also teach and inspire later day believers (like me) the way of Jehovah God.

This is called plagiarism.

safariman:
That is the only profession that I have ever been in and I am not quite sure if it is forbidden since there are bankers in Saudi Arabia, allbeit, they don't charge interest on their loans.

what you have exhibited is called INTELLIGENCE. which is very uncommon.

safariman:
As a Banker and a Muslim, I make loans to Churches and Synagogues, which I am told is against Islamic teachings,

So why did u not resign?

dankol:
What did you write that i am suppose to refute. The fallacies you confirmed or what . poor you

Na Today

oyb:
before you start calling other women ugly, please post your picture. who do you think you are, and where do you get off on calling women ugly because they don't fit into your cherry vision of uncovered limbs

Now this is ridiculous. First and foremost, I am a HE and not a she.

Secondly, if u think a woman is beautiful, do I not have the same right as u to think she is UGLY? I simply find hijab an unattractive fashion accessory. what EXACTLY is ur problem?

oyb:
noetic the man with no iq. . .

ode, was mary punishing herself when she chose to dress modestly?  or are you blind as well as dumb?

pele o. . .


osisi and contradictions . oya

why did the men not also dress like that?abi they did not also need - 'protection from the elements'. and is the temperature in the desert not higher than the temperature in lagos  

so why do nuns in convents fully protected from the elements dress the way they do  

You did not have to use those words to pass across ur message, if ANY. Allah must be extremely proud of u.

I have not referred u to any scripture, have I? All I said is that they are ANYTHING but beautiful. They are very close to extreme ugliness.
You have not refuted my claim, have u?

babs787:
@Noetic2
Your book didnt mention that and even silent on that because thats not the revelation given to Jesus

Jinn is a figment of allah's imagination. Jehovah God has/had no business with allah's jinns.
what I am interested in is the topic of discussion. How does a jinn represent Jesus? why not just establish that fact.

and Jesus said he would not be able to teach you all things but the comforter would come to do all these and the comforter is Muhammed (saw) which you are denying blindly and that is the more reason Allah explains some things in the Quran which are not in the bible just like the case of the Jinn.

comforter means Holy Spirit. Are u saying that mohammed is the Holy Spirit?

oyb:
noetic,

thank you for confirming that you are a reverse racist scumbag who considers your sisters to be uglier than arabs

do you also spend all your time drooling over scantily clad white models  

please do tell, are you by implication sying that all the women from Jesus time who dressed in exactly the same way are also ugly, or did that part escape your obviusly limited intellect.

Thou deluded ignoramus. . . . . . . where EXACTLY in my posts did u deduce any of these?

Just like u I am entitled to my opinion. None of these hijab girls is ANYTHING close to beautiful. why should anyone punish themselves by wearing an hijab?

@ osisi

they look like american ninja's  

Simply ridiculous.

oyb:
osisi, surely you are not trying to say that black women are ugly

https://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/images/MuslimWoman_Getty_400.jpg


https://muslimmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/lisa-valentine.jpg

which of the two is not ugly?

gen2genius:
Keep it for herself, parents and siblings and occasionally support her husband or combine her earnings with her husband's to cater for the immediate family?

A woman raised an alarm, sometime ago, accusing her husband of asking her to share in the household expenses (even though he was to bear the greater burden). I was shocked because I thought marriage was supposed to be a partnership where things were shared/done together for mutual benefits.

What's your opinion?

She should do the same things are husband does with his money.

osisi don come again ooooooo

olabowale:
Every verse of the Quran is a response to inquires or prevailing situations that was and always on ground within Muslims, and mankind at large!

So when a person foolishly asked if Allah the Most Forgiving ever forgave anyone, one sees very clearly that the questioner is ignorant and deluded. If one is to consider the very names of Allah: Al Afuww, Al Gafur, Al Rahman, Al Haleem, etc. One will see that the very names denote that He is the Only One who can forgive. Meaning, if any were to forgive you and Allah does not on the same matter, you are the loser!

I have repeatedly told u to stop displaying ur raw ignorance juxtaposed with massive illiteracy. The names of a person are worthless if they do not correspond to his/her deeds. What are the instances where ur allah showed forgiveness?

I was listening to the life history of Umar Al farooq (a root word derived from Furqan) bin Khattab yesterday, and his migration to Madina was what I wanted to toch on:

His migration companion was a brother of Abu Jahal (Laana tullah Alal kafirin), whom they lied to, as he and Umar arrived in Madina. They got him back to Makka from Madina by tying him up on the Camel that Umar loaned him.

In time Umar was sad about the condition of his friend in Makka, so he asked the prophet about what is the condition of people like that with Allah. Immediately, Allah revealed to Muhammad the verse of the Quran that says to former Muslims and Muslims and nonMuslims as they will enter Islam, that those of His slaves who have transgressed should not lose hope in the forgiveness of Allah, that He forgives all sins, again and again.

This revelation when it got to this man in Makka, in time he left back for Madina and return to Islam.


Is it not clear then that Allah is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful and Practices the Best of Graciousness and Justice?

For the Muslims who will like to listen to the tape; please google video: Umar bin Khattab. Its the second or the third of 18 parters.

For me I think except that a person is willing to be just and fair in conversation, no one should discuss with the disbelievers, because they are always unjust and can't e trusted, because they toll the line of their leaders: their Malaa. Read the Quran. Allah talks about the Malaas of the disbelievers who pull the strings of their masses. The masses just respond to them, without question. I call it zombie syndrome.

where EXACTLY is this falsified misinformation stated in ur koran?

Horus:
It is normal that nobody answered your question. The English language simply refuses to keep to the rules. Example: words spelt almost exactly the same don’t sound the same, like bomb, comb, and tomb. Then there are words which aren’t spelt the same, have different meanings but sound identical: pair, pare, pear. Logical ? The English language is a Bastard Language made by Bastard peoples. Ask the Christians, if there was no “J” sound in the English language before 1565 A.D., how was Jesus pronounced?

you see. , this is EXACTLY what I am talking about.
What does all that u have said have to do with the SECOND letter of the English alphabet?

xanders:
actually its an open question, to be more specific, human behaviour, character, exibition of fanatisim, rigidity of reason and thought. these thing, funny as it may seem, contribute extensively to the quality of life around us. [b]does this help now [/b]neo?

sure it does.

The followers are to blame. people are fond of reading their pastors and not their bibles.
When I read some of the things Christ embassy members go/went through, I just shake my head. Cos I dont see myself EVER going through such.
The bible is there for all to read, scholars are not needed to understand the teachings of Christ. Every one astray is to blame for being astray.

do I live in another planet?

hijab makes girls more beautiful? please tell me this is a joke.

I am very interested in this thread. I hope that we can soon arrive at the GREY areas of the haddith. And hopefully u can address my concerns and educate my "ignorance".

muhsin:
No. But I would advise you to go and look for the meaning of "Hadith". Sure if you knew you would not have made such a childish comment.

instead of making evasive comments, why not answer my questions?

This is an analysis of the prominent respondents on nairaland.

QUESTION AND ANSWER

Noetic Asks: What is the second letter of the English alphabet?


Answers:
KAG: The english alphabet was designed by an igbo man in the 11th century who was residing in scotland. Infact his name is chukwuemeka uwalaka. The english alphabet is a connotative derivative of the igbo language, when the igbos colonised the british a long time ago.

So the english alphabet as a derivative of the igbo language cannot be explored individually. So are u asking for the original igbo alphabet or the revised igbo-english alphabet.
If u want further analysis or have any question, please let me know.

ToneyB: The english alphabet exists only in ur mind. It is used by neo-colonialists to enslave poor religionists like you. Do u know that when I was being taught the english alphabet in school, I refused to learn the white man's propaganda and started asking questions as to what happened to the original hausa alphabets of the 2nd century.

You just keep believing ridiculous stories. How can u believe that there is even an english alphabet? where is ur scientific evidence to suggest that there is an english alphabet?

Tudor: [/b]The english alphabet is a creation of the white man, to enslave you. you need to wake up. what happened to the efik and ibibio alphabet?

[b]Pilgrim: You see KAG was right. When the igbo alphabet was designed, it was so universal that the english alphabet was derived from it. Take for instance, the english word "happiness" was derived from the igbo word "chukwudififo".
So are u talking about the derivative symbols of the english or igbo alphabet?

Huxley: I dont know. Can u tell me the first hausa man to speak english? where is ur peer review to suggest that there is anything called "english alphabet"? infact are u educated at all?

Mazaje: I am a geologist and linguist and I can tell u that the word "alphabet" is not an acceptable term in language and communication. u dont know what u are saying.

I cant believe this. even in the 7th century when people where questioning the intentions of the designers of the spanish alphabet, no one was talking about the english alphabet. so whats the relationship between the english alphabet and the present day reality.


Chrisbenogor: Do u even know the meaning of the "alphabet"? go and read this link to understand what alphabets mean. www.wikipedia_alphabets_in_chris_mind.com

Dalaman: I cannot refute ur claim on the alphabets but according to talk-origin and wikipedia "alphabets" is not an acceptable term in language and communication.

Bawomolo: How am i supposed to know? I will go to greece to bring the evidence that alphabets exist. . . .when I do, then I can tell u the second alphabet.

Olabowale: According to prophet mohammed, in the end time like this people will make unneccesary claims. Are u saying that Jesus wrote the alphabet? man, u need to wake up.

The alphabet was part of what angel jubril gave to prophet mohammed in the koran and according to the haddith, the prophet was always reciting the alphabets whenever he was with aisha.

The alphabets were in the corrupt bible before, but has been removed. I hope u accept islam to come and see the alphabets in the koran.

Oyb: noetic again, what do u think prophet mohammed was reciting when he was with aisha. what do u have against islam? all language alphabets are in the koran and are well recited in the haddiths, so what are u talking about?

Abuzuola: Did Jesus ever mention the alphabets in the bible? No. But prophet mohammed and allah did in the koran.
noetic my friend, I pray for u to see the truth in islam so that u can come and see the alphabets.

Fellis: oyb and olabs u are both doing a great job. How can noetic not know that all alphabets in spanish, english, french, arabic and latin also including all african languages is in the koran.

SirJohn: I never knew the english alphabets until I left christ embassy. Pastor chris almost deleted the alphabets from my memory.

Wirinet: I cant understand why noetic would ask such a ridiculous question. did he do any reading and comprehension is school at all? This is ridiculous.

KunleOshob: You cannot know the alphabets if u pay ur tithes and are religious. When u stop paying ur tithes, u will understand the english alphabets better.

m_nwankwo: I dont want to argue with anyone. But there is nothing called alphabets. . . .what we have are FLAFABETS. this is my peer review to explain what FLAFABETS are. www.m_nwankwo_perceived_flafabets.com




At the very end of it all, NONE answered the simple question asked but attempted to redefine the topic of discussion.

oyb:
this has to be the kicker 


so, who to believe? plus, who exactly did paul blaspheme? it seems one needs to be using some serious mind altering substances to come to terms with the multiple contracdictions that pass for christain doctrine  - actually says alot about noetic - he clearly has a 'dude where's my car' thing going on 


osisi posted a completely different interpretation which i quoted. what exactly do you guys stand for , anyway 





yup christians cannot agree on anything 

what do u understand by BLASPHEMY ?

fellis:
Oyb and Olabowale, una dey try sha. Reading the ignorant hogwash noetic writes can be infuriating.
Imagine his comment, "you are not allowed to make reference to the hadith because this thread talks about Allah". First of all, who are you to give others conditions for posting replies? do you own the forum? Secondly, please avoid hadiths very well since you don't know what they actually are or their sources or even their uses.
What if the thread talks about Allah? Who told you hadiths have nothing to do with Allah?

thou pathetic ignoramus, . . .do u know the meaning of ignorance?

did allah write the haddith?

olabowale:
I just can't but state that Islam of Muhammad (AS) existed in Makka, for 13 years, with Muhammad, this muslim brothers and sisters and their Creator fighting a single fight. Though the Muslims were persecuted, and worse, men and women were killed or ran out of town. It is this oppression and evildoing of the makaans, and the people of taif and others that led to the minor Hijras (twice) to Abbysinia.

Yet Allah alone was capable of wiping off the face of the earth the Makkans and the people of Taif. Afterall, he defeated the army of the people of the Elephant, with any one fighting them. Afterall, the battle of the confederates was won without the muslims fighting. The battle of the trenches, was won by just the wind overcoming the disbelievers.

It is this oppression that finally ran Muhammad (AS) out of his beloved city, Makka. I remember that a woman whose father was named Surakat wanted to change it, as a last name, when she learnt that Surakat, a slave of a Makkan wealthy was sent to locate the hide out of the Prophet and Abu Bakr his companion (RA). I had to tell her that in the end Surakat became Muslim. And who was it among the makkans, that did not convert from some religion to Islam? So the initial deeds, before Islam did not matter.

It is a known fact that the makkans pursued Muhammad (AS) to the end. And it was the Grace and Protection of Allah that made it impossible for them to kill him. Surah Yasin;s verse 9 is a testament to the evilness of the Makkans.

Finally, as we speak about Mercy of Allah, in Surah Taha, verse 47 instructed Musa (AS) to appeal to the heart of Pharaoh, even though he had transgressed all bounds of evil limits! This is different from the Biblical "Let my people go!", to a nobility.

And when Muahmmad (AS) had an upperhand over the Makkans and the Taif people did kill all of them? The answer is obvious. This is different from what the Chrsitian Crusaders did in the Larger crusades, or what the Spaniards did in their inquisitions. Both worked for Jesus, Ghost god and Father god and not Allah or Muhammad His Slave. In surah Yusuf, we see how Allah inspired Yusuf to wholesale forgive his brothers, who plotted against him.

I asked a Christian if he will allow Hulk Hogan at the top of his game, in the 80s slaugh him on the right cheek. As hard as he can, and then turn the other cheek? This guy laughed and asked if I was kidding him. I said no, since your Bible called for turning the other cheek, I need to know the reality.

Am still waiting for his response, up till now.

I hope that I will have a sincere answer some day. The reality is this; no one will allow a person to slap him silly, twice. America has a saying: instead of fool me, I will say, slap me. So slap me once is on you. But slap me twice is truly on me. Only a fool will swallow such a garbage.

What was this intended to achieve? did u make ANY point at all?

oyb:
noetic,  sup, you blind or sumpn?

did you  miss all this?

and the attached contradictory interpretations -

i suggest that you go and sort out the misinterpretations of your book before tasking your minuscule copy and paste from the internet brain with lame attempts to understand the Quran.

1TI 1:13  Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a
violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief.


Thats the testimony of Paul to blasphemy. He was forgiven cos his blaspheme was done in ignorance.

Jesus was honest. He said He will forgive all sins, on earth and in heaven except blaspheme and from Paul's testimony mercy is obtainable.
Quite unlike allah, who on one hand claims to be merciful and forgiving. . . . .on the other hand he asks that
apostates be killed (cos he cant forgive them)

Muslims be amputated, flogged and beheaded.

Jews, Christians and other non-muslims also be killed,  . . .  .Allah is so unforgiving.

the above highlights the sad duplicity that runs through your soul. you and osisi had no problem with the hadith when referencing apostates etal . plenty of intrest when you were copying and pasting from the net. abi satan had your tongue when osisi was going on and on about the authority of the hadith. your hypocrisy knows no bounds,  , its sad , really

all of a sudden, you say the Hadith is not relevant . anyway, that is the christian way, talking out of all sides of your mouth,  living for the moment /argumant of the day  ., afterall, tomorrow will take care of itself  , not so?

This is ridiculous.

We can make reference to the hadith cos that is where the deeds of mohammed are recorded. Thats where mohammed carried out the commandments of allah as enshrined in the koran. It is deducible from the hadith that mohammed is NOT a prophet and if at all he is, he is not of the living GOD we know.
The haddith attests to the fact that allah is not Jehovah God, but an arabian idol.

You (you and olabowale) cannot make reference to the haddith as far as this thread is concerned. cos this thread discusses allah and not mohammed.

whaooo. . . . .islam is fun unlimited copying of christianity.