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Christianity Etc › Re: The Questions Nobody Wants To Answer In Christianity by noetic2: 4:03am On Jun 26, 2009
thou pathetic retard . . . . . . , who appeared to mohammed and commanded him to read?
Islam › Re: Hadeeth Of The Day by noetic2: 2:28am On Jun 26, 2009
Abuzola:
Noetic u need to tighten the bolt before the nut loose cuz u are acting strangely like ? i no talk, use ur head man
huh
Islam › Re: Hadeeth Of The Day by noetic2: 1:31am On Jun 26, 2009
littleb:
I never mentioned anyone's name! I only quoted an hadith.
we both know what EXACTLY you are driving at.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Questions Nobody Wants To Answer In Christianity by noetic2: 1:24am On Jun 26, 2009
Abuzola:
The Quran was memorized by a whooping number of muslims and written as well on wood. If a goat should eat it there are still other copies written down and memorized, the Quran was compiled together in one plank during umar's caliphate, umar was a friend and companion of the Prophet so whoever claims it was 100 or 300 years after the death of the Prophet should fool himself.
But I thought an angel handed the koran to an illiterate mohammed? is that not the popular story?
Islam › Re: Is Allah A Forgiving Diety? by noetic2(op): 1:17am On Jun 26, 2009
littleb:
Head or tail of your questions do I need to answer? Why do we have laws? Is there laws in Christianity? If there is none, how do you pronounce judgement on criminals?
littleb:
@neotic,
If you can be more objective and reasons together maybe we can iron out the areas we differ. meanwhile,my battery is low. The issue of amputation or behead a criminal shouldn't be an issue. my battery is low,
instead of going through all this. . . .u could as well just answer my questions.
Christianity Etc › Re: Will Michael Jackson Go To Heaven? by noetic2: 1:15am On Jun 26, 2009
huxley2:
Was this not foreseen by some religious nutjob?
Yea , . .I think an astrologic atheist foresaw it.
Islam › Re: Hadeeth Of The Day by noetic2: 1:14am On Jun 26, 2009
littleb:
The Prophet(peace be upon him) said:

1. "What I most fear in my community is a man who interprets verses of the Qur'an out of context."

2. "There will be towards the end of time a people who will say to you what neither you nor your forebears ever heard before. Beware of them lest they misguide you and bring you confusion."
What verse of the Koran have I or anyone misinterpreted on this forum?
Christianity Etc › Re: Will Michael Jackson Go To Heaven? by noetic2: 11:38pm On Jun 25, 2009
Thats between him and God . . . . I hope he acknowledged Jesus.
Islam › Re: Is Allah A Forgiving Diety? by noetic2(op): 11:35pm On Jun 25, 2009
littleb:
It is like your question always turn the truth in upside down. You perceive Islam different from what muslims believe it to be. Where do you find contradictions in Allah's words? Allah promise forgiveness for everybody who turn sincerely in repentance as long as the person is still breathing. The same way he did for the first created man and forgiveness thereafter. Allah promise rewards for every deed and punishment for who does otherwise. The intercession after judgment is for those who does not associate partnership with God almighty. That is why prophet Muhammad says:"whoever believe there is no deity worthy of worship save Allah(God) will enter paradise".

Be sincere to yourself and understand Islam by start reading Quran and not just ordinary copy and paste propaganda.
Whats the meaning of all these u have stated?

If allah is forgiving, why does he ask u guys to amputate, behead, flog and kill others (jihad)? u either answer the question or . . . .
Islam › Re: Misconceptions About Islam ! by noetic2: 11:33pm On Jun 25, 2009
what EXACTLY is ur problem? Tudor asked a question, I provided an answer, why is that a problem?
Islam › Re: Misconceptions About Islam ! by noetic2: 10:18pm On Jun 25, 2009
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=288615.msg4089832#msg4089832 date=1245957603]Allah commands his slaves to kill,maim, amputate,blow up,rape and loot unbelievers. . . .True or false huh[/quote]unfortunately TRUE.
Christianity Etc › Re: Question And Answers by noetic2(op): 9:59pm On Jun 25, 2009
lol grin
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think The Bible Is Just Weird by noetic2: 9:58pm On Jun 25, 2009
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=287415.msg4087489#msg4087489 date=1245938074]Present or past its the SAME god. And according to him he never changes.

BTW i never see you people quoting the new testament when you wanna get my tithes but in every other case you scream 'new covenant' grin[/quote]did I ask for ur tithe? grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Athiesm Existed Before Charles Darwin! by noetic2: 9:51pm On Jun 25, 2009
3kings:
hi noetic i dont mean to ridicule the prophets and writers of the bible but what i mean by 'dumb, foolish, outdated men' is what the athiest in thier post refer to holy men and prophets as being 'dumb, foolish and outdated'. Yet this men they despise have revealed an ancient truth that has stood the test of time which is all athiest are fools according to Psalms. However by choosing to believe the bible, i have choosen to be 'dumb,foolish and outdated' by worldly standard but before God, i have choosen the wisdom of God which is wiser than men (including athiest) so pls dont be offended.

hope u understand.
I understand. I am sorry for the outburst.

Was kinda used to
toneyb:
You are becoming more pathetic in your militancy. Why are you crucifying your own soldier in christ? Learn to read and understand before ejaculating ignorance.
u have every reason to yab me. grin grin grin
Islam › Re: Is Allah A Forgiving Diety? by noetic2(op): 9:48pm On Jun 25, 2009
muhsin:
Oh. . .thanks to Allah (S.W.T)! I now realize I had been under a "false impression". Why? Wallahi I thought you, noetic2, were more intelligent and perceptive than how you actually are. Lets reason something here.

Faithful Muslims are asked that they be beheaded, amputated, etc? Why are they asked so? 'Cause of no reasons, NO! But because they did something very grave, e.g. who killed should be killed; a thief (who stole goods, for instance of certain value) should be amputated; an adulterer be stoned, etc YET you are saying they should be forgiven. What a rubbish!

And secondly, he so-called CONDONE husband who beats wife? And that beating, which is cautioned to be LIGHT!

My question: Beating or perpetuating any of these actions that their doers are ordered to be killed, stoned, etc, which one deserves punishment?

Allah never decree all Muslims to hell. You, time more than count, talk of these verses and are always aptly explained to you. Please don't sound obtuse.
This is outrageously ridiculous.

Is forgiveness not in allah's dictionary? is forgiveness not an option to allah? So y the senseless and inhuman atrocities in the name of punishment?

What is Qur'an? It's the Last and Guarded Testament of the Bible.

Man, stop beating about the bush. Open your heart and understand the truth. As I say; it's not yet over. I read some years ago an octogenarian traditional leader there in Lagos embraced Islam. I can logically guess you are younger than that.

Ciao!
I have opened my heart and I want to receive the truth.

So it is now up to u and allah to produce the ORIGINAL BIBLE so that I can see the truth.
Islam › Re: Hadeeth Of The Day by noetic2: 9:45pm On Jun 25, 2009
muhsin:
AlhamduliLlah. That means you too accept that the first one was aptly answered. Right? cheesy

Either they do have same or different hell fires is not our concern, for we don't like to (and won't , inshaAllah) enter neither.

Any way, let me attempt it: should different offense, for e.g. a stealer of a car and that of a bicycle, both be judged the same and received same verdicts? For instance be sentenced to 5-5 years imprisonment? I think it'd be a bit fairer if the former was sentenced to 2, while the latter 5. Isn't it more just?  huh

BTW, you remind me of one of my lecturers, many at times, noetic2. He always reiterates "confusion is good in learning" whenever feels his students are confused. I wish you all the best.

Until tomorrow, inshaAllah.
I am awaiting ur answer.
Islam › Re: Hadeeth Of The Day by noetic2: 9:44pm On Jun 25, 2009
Abuzola:
@noetic, Are u telling me that since u register on nairaland you did not post in other threads ? Come on, save ur bullshit- all am saying is u derail threads with insult on our beloved Prophet or cause trouble.
This has no meaning.

what u consider as INSULTS against prophet mohammed, I consider as NORMS
what u consider as NORMS about Jesus, I consider as INSULTS.

unless and until u understand that there must be tolerance in expression, I dont see a resolution.
All I have done is to interpret events (about mohammed) to the best of my understanding. None of u has ever REFUTED this analysis of mine. All u do is render insults. When someone readily resorts to insults they are called empty barrels.
Islam › Re: Hadeeth Of The Day by noetic2: 4:52pm On Jun 25, 2009
Jarus:
Na wa for you o.
This is very serious. So you don't know the meaning of 'pure' as used in that sentence, and you expect 'unpure hypocrite' to be the opposite.
Even my sister in primary school will know that 'pure hypocrite' as used in the statement means 'whole, complete hypocrite'.

Pls don't ask me what 'incomplete hypocrite' means because I don't know how to explain more simply to you than I've already done.
u did not answer the second part of the question. do they have different hell fires?
Islam › Re: Hadeeth Of The Day by noetic2: 4:02pm On Jun 25, 2009
mukina2:
You called abuzola a troll and i quoted you cuz its funny.

You are equally a troll.

The topic is about Hadeeths keep to it or click back and move on to the next topic
since u are fond of constituting a NUISANCE on virtually every thread. I would advise u ignore my posts.

Abuzola:
Yeeeee noetic when did u back ur insults and trouble with ayah or hadith. U are a big 419 infact 519. I don't use google for response google does not have the answer i need and moreover it will be a huge shame for me who schooled and did islamic school to google around, incase u are blind go and ask ur neighbor whether in most of my thread there is no compiled by abuzola. . Catch u later
In the threads I have started I have always cited the koran and haddiths. Check out "why I am not a muslim" "is allah a forgiving deity" and several others. Whenever I state my case I back it up. Whenever islamic trolls like u come attacking, I always answer ur questions and stay in the thread objectively.

You come up with erroneous mis-information, whenever u start a thread in the religion section. People respond and ask u questions. U either runa way like a thief or resort to insults. . . . . .a pot calling kettle black.
Islam › Re: Hadeeth Of The Day by noetic2: 2:48pm On Jun 25, 2009
Abuzola:
Hmmm, i do not go there throwing bombs and saying unreasonaale + nonsense = ? Besides i know christianity like my slipass very well so u don't expect me to go there to learn, i post facts that many christians never knew, such as christianity in the bible, dancing and clapping which never exist in the bible. But i tell u noetic thats just the beginning because i have my thousands facts intact which even u never knew, just bear whth me in ur section as time goes u shall be seeing balistic facts. As for u. U only find trouble by insulting our beloved prophet, the mentality is distinct
This is ridiculous.

name ONE FACT u have ever posted? you post googled-up misinformation and whenever u are asked a question, u run away carrying ur tail with you.

All I ever do here is to ask questions or state my opinion on bad islamic norms, and for each opinion I back it up koran or haddith citations. None of u has ever been able to REFUTE any of my assertions. you all resort to insults and abuses, which even a child should not be caught doing.
Christianity Etc › Re: Inter-generation Curses Or Blessings. Let's See What The Bible Says, Shall We? by noetic2: 2:43pm On Jun 25, 2009
and your point is?
Christianity Etc › Re: Athiesm Existed Before Charles Darwin! by noetic2: 2:30pm On Jun 25, 2009
3kings:
Athiesm on Nairaland is a topic that has tried to ridicule God and the bible. Precisely, it is not just an unbelief in God but the belief that God does not exist hence all human beings are on thier own, they live and die to themselves only. i was musing over the goodness of God and this is what i realised that trying to give credit to charles darwin as the 'father' of athiesm is null. infact athiesm existed way beyond charles time. it existed before Christ Jesus (my Chief High Priest) was born and after He died, raised from the dead, it was acknowledged by paul.

Well atheist dont get all excited yet. if the book which u so discredit has acknowledged that there were athiest - who deny the existence of God, it means that in this book contains more than present day athiest will have us believe. It stated in

Ps 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
KJV

If a book that was written by 'dumb, foolish, outdated' men were moved to write the bible from which the above verse was taken, who lived some thousand of years before us. Then it means that athiest should consider what this book has to say with soberness and humility.

Unfortunately it reasoned that they are plain fools meaning that one deceives him/herself to think that there is no God, no supernatural etc.

so my fellow friends, consider this soberly. cry
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Questions Nobody Wants To Answer In Christianity by noetic2: 2:28pm On Jun 25, 2009
Abuzola:
How can God be a mystery God, this is why a christian can't challemge an atheist. The Quran makes us known that God hjas a Mighty Hand and His throne is bigger than the 7 heavens and earth and is sited above the sea, He has a mighty chair bigger than the heaven. He looks upon the people everyday and in that glance He bless and take, He make some rich and some poor, He makes it possible to give birth to a baby alive and He takes lives, gladtiding and calamity etc. God isn't a mystery
was the koran talking about GOD or allah?
Islam › Re: Hadeeth Of The Day by noetic2: 2:27pm On Jun 25, 2009
Abuzola:
Don't come and start ur nonsense again pleaseee
what should we call the RUBBISH u do in the religion section?

just answer my questions, if u can. . . .pathetic troll.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Think The Bible Is Just Weird by noetic2: 2:24pm On Jun 25, 2009
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=287415.msg4083639#msg4083639 date=1245872377]Classic christian propaganda- quoting only parts of scripture they like and ignoring the rest.

James 1:27 "religion that god our father accept as PURE is this:to look after orphans and widows in distress and keep ones self from being polluted by the world"-

The above passage is quite good but how'd you reconcile purity and love for widows and orphans with commandments to kill unbelievers, rape, loot,enslave and steal lands in addition to genocide and ethnic cleansing,in essence creating more widows and orphans.

This is a nagging problem atheists have with the christian god. The contradictions are overwhelming yet you lot fail to acknowledge . . .[/quote]are these perceived contradictions prominent in the new testament?
You need to understand that present day christianity is pre-dominantly defined by the new covenant established in Christ Jesus.

So if u can establish any new testament instruction that emphasizes the killing, rape, enslavement and genocidal atrocities against non-believers, perhaps u might have a point at last. . . . .so??
Islam › Re: Hadeeth Of The Day by noetic2: 2:20pm On Jun 25, 2009
muhsin:
Assalaam alaikum,


[b][color=#770077]Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:

The Prophet (PBUH) said, "Whoever has the following four (characteristics) will be a pure hypocrite and whoever has one of the following four characteristics will have one characteristic of hypocrisy unless and until he gives it up.
Whats the difference between a pure hypocrite and an unpure hypocrite? do they have separate hell fires?

4. Whenever he quarrels, he behaves in a very imprudent, evil and insulting manner."
Is there ANY notable muslim respondent on this forum who is NOT guilty of this?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheism Is A Mental Illness, A Cry For Attention. by noetic2: 2:17pm On Jun 25, 2009
blacksta:
huh
what part of the question dont u understand?
Islam › Re: Is Allah A Forgiving Diety? by noetic2(op): 2:15pm On Jun 25, 2009
muhsin:
The Almighty Allah says with regard to the Christians:

"Why turn they not to Allah, and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."(5:74)

NOTE: The door is not closed!
why does allah not forgive his faithful muslims . . . .why does he ask that they be beheaded, amputated, killed or flogged?
why did allah decree all muslims to hell fire? why did allah condone husbands who beat their wives and not forgive them?
why does allah say something and does something else? why is allah such a contradiction? why? why allah? why?

allah claims that the bible is corrupt. . . .what stops allah from producing the original bible?
Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Any Girl Around Coker/agula In Lagos. For Serious Relationship. by noetic2: 1:03pm On Jun 25, 2009
xynerio:
Noetic abi na lunatic say u be girl or boy. Cos dis post is only for girls(beautiful ones) if u wan check out my pic tell me. No dey spoil lander damsels mind.
Only desperate wanking addicts do this. u must be terrible UGLY.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Does It Feel Like To Be Dead by noetic2: 1:25am On Jun 25, 2009
another "one" from mama-gee
Literature › Re: What Do You Think About the individuals in this true story? by noetic2: 1:12am On Jun 25, 2009
ibrokay:
The worst story i have ever read on Nairaland.Why not leave the muslims alone and practice ur own religion the way it should
Thou brainless maladroit.

why didnt u think about this before?
Christianity Etc › Re: Creation Doesnt Make Sense by noetic2: 11:06pm On Jun 24, 2009
BigBashiru:
if i were God, i really wouldnt have bothered. just look at the world today. pls no deep religiou stheories. God has predestined everything.
This is the most intellectually STUPID statement I have heard/seen today.

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