₦airaland Forum

mrsage:
We all know the bike and Kekes guys do not pay taxes, but like it or not, its an economic activity.

Says who? Whether thru d organised rides ( opay, gokada n co) n the informal guys. They pay.

All the tickets they give them at the stops, by the touts/ nurtw. you think a cut of that is not going back to the govt.

Don't say what you don't know

nayo10:
I understand you bro but you didn't consider how many lives have been lost due to the menace they cause every day on the road. I think our society will become better when we prioritize life over money because money can always been made in another way but life cant. So pls next time you are thinking about source of income, think about lives too, this new policy will save. PS I lost someone due to okada menace

What source of income are you talking about?
.we are talking about loss of jobs.

We are talking about the movement of the average " lagosian"

As it is, the buses can't go round.

Transport fares in Lagos are so high.

Even in Abuja with the elitist approach the city plan brought.

Keke still runs in certain parts of the city.

You have still not answered the pending question.:

If the ban takes place .How will an average individual DT earns around 20-25k monthly move to n fro work in the areas aforementioned.?

Prince3:
I am not supporting the government neither am against them but let me just say this. Bikes and Keke was stop on major express road where our regular danfo plus. And they are not banned in streets where danfo cannot play. So let's take note of this before arriving at any conclusions.
Bike and Keke will still run in trade Fair mkt, inside festac and somany other places. So nobody is taking away food from anyone.

What about ogba, agindigbi, Ikeja, computer village, Allen, agege , iju ishaga, fagba,.abule egba etc

What will happen to the keke drivers there.
They should carry their keke n go to Festac or what?.

When reasoning issues, don't just look at the surface. Look deep.

What about the Agberos, the toll/ ticket/ tariff collectors whose jobs are hinged on that particular industry.

Seun360:
Guy leave talk, AngryIgboMan is right, those guys are menace on the road, reckless driving, plying one-way, disobedience to traffic light, scratching people's Vehicle upandan.


I support the govt 101%

Which govt are you supporting.

Do you know the ripple effect of these ABRUPT policies.

Let's assume there are 5,000 motorcycles n rickshaws ( they far outstrip that figure)

That simply means over 5,000 people ( including women keke drivers) will lose their jobs just like that.

Are you looking @ d multiplier effect, all these drivers have families depending on that source of income

And all of a sudden, that income stream would be taken away.

You support govt taking jobs from people in a country where getting a job is almost a miracle. Common!

Come to think of it. Let's leave the keke n okada for now.

Are there alternatives for moving around without d Rickshaws.

For instance, if d ban takes effect, how will commuters move from ogba to Allen junction/ Berger/ opebi.

I'm asking YOU. Can you suggest how commuters will move henceforth?


Can everybody afford cabs?
. But @ least most pple can afford d #50/ #100 for dose short distances.

How many pple in Lagos can pay #400 for a short distance.

Forget all the hype about money in Lagos, majority of people in Lasgidi are just struggling.
I mean A LOT of pple are just getting by.

These are things you shd think of before supporting a policy that will eventually fail.

Let us be guided

ObodoNaija:
Good evening house, please I need you guys advice on something, would you advise someone to collect loan from the bank(Gtbank) with 1.33% interest money and put in uber business? A friend of mine is thinking of collecting loan of 2 million to buy 2 cars, a big daddy(1ml) and a Honda (#800,000, the owner is desperately in need of money). He has seen the cars already but just that he is a little bit sceptical about it if he can be able to repay the loan and interest within a year interval. He will drive one and give out one. What is your advice guys and has anyone here collected loan from the bank especially GTBank, what was the person's experience and are there hidden charges that the bank doesn't let the customers know?
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No dont


No don't. Give out a car on loan to another person.

From the price of the cars, they are not tokunbo.

Where do people get this idea that you will make money from giving out ( Naija USED cars on rental.

Cos when the stress and rigours ( park, stop, move, reverse, intermittently)of ehailing gets to a TYPICAL NAIJA USED car, the HIDDEN issues in the car will PRECIPITATE.


I hope your friend is ready to work, I mean drive.
There is no free meal in this racket. The day you don't DRIVE/ WORK. YOU WONT SEE SHISHi.
.

Even if you buy a car @ 1m, YOU can never recoup/ SAVE 1M in a year on UBER. I MEAN STRICTLY UBER N BOLT. ( NOT OFFLINE)

Even if RENTALS @ 25k, there is no driver that can deliver 50 straight weeks. Without default ( unforeseen circumstances, health, vehicle breakdown, etc)

I hope your friend is ready to work, I mean drive, cos this racket is a FULL days work. You need @ least 10-12 hours to make something substantial.

You will not be driving for that 12 hours o, but practically , you will b paying attentuon
to the app n d phone.



Real advice:
Why take a loan to invest in a biz you have no experience in?

Generally loans r useful if you want to expand biz , ur capacity, buy inputs / raw materials etc. That means there is an established pattern on ground.

Personally, I can't take a loan n invest on uber.

Wait , the seniors will shed more light.

payperpost:
we can now use the walk ways in peace, most state has banned okada , you can not come and constitute nuisance with okada here. we thank the Lagos state government for this move.

You are not looking at the aftermaths effect of dese policies. You view the world from your own perspective.

Massive youth unemployment with propensity to trigger higher crime rates

Colybaly:
Please I want to give my corolla 06 to my friend for uber/bolt, while he search for job. what is the average weekly expectation from him with expected working hours from 5am to 7pm, he is new in Abuja, but he is a good driver and hardworking

Has he done e hailing before in Abj?

The very first month, he is going to use n get a hang of the workings of the city.

If he works hard, maybe 6- 8 k net daily . Mon to Friday.

Are you the patient type?

Cos uber/ taxify racket in Abj will not begin to pour out cash the way people view it.

Telling u dis so DT I don't burst ur bubble.

Ups n downs in earnings.

Tell your friend to go to the Uber Abuja thread n read up, I put some troubled areas where he shdnt pick or drop.

Cos wen requests r not forthcoming, he MIT b tempted to start picking n dropping on d street.

Na how jjc drivers dey enter agbero hand.

Don't. Pick strangers at nite. No Mata how juicy d offer is.

So tell him to read up n get street savvy.

anonimi:
Cheap fares can be a competition strategy and also to make it widely accepted/used.
Now may be the time to focus on quantity rather than margins. Later when the riders are more than the drivers, fares can go up.

You assertion is not totally correct. Bolt n Uber run a concession kind of service I.e they get a cut from every ride they link up.

They don't care how many drivers share whatever is left on the table . as long as their remittances are secured they are good.

Take a scenario.

There are 5000 drivers on platform A. They pull in #10,000,000.
Platform takes #2,000,000.

Let's assume drivers share equally ( this is not often the case as some drivers will earn more than d other but for d sake of illustration.

Each driver takes #1,600 home.

There are 8000 drivers now. They pull in #14,000,000.
Platform takes #2,800,000.
Each driver takes #1,400 home.

In reality, there was an increased revenue. But there was no trickle down effect to d individual drivers.

But here is d catch,the e companies are not drastically affected in terms of earnings simply because, they take a cut of whatever comes into the pool.

All they need to increase their REVENUE pool is to bring in more drivers.

The kind of earnings drivers made in 2015 is not what is reflecting in 2019.

Yes, you could argue that there are still some top earners, but those ( drivers) are outliers, they do not represent the drivers in the mainstream.

Take it from me, the fares will not go up. Not in the immediate future.

blissbliss:
China: 12k

Thanks

Seniors, good morning.

Please who has an idea of the current price of 05/06 Toyota corolla headlamp ( left side/ driver's).

I need it. Asap. Biko.

bigiyaro:
bros, 500 dollars a week, even in the US is good Money. if in a country of 30k minimum wage, someone netting 70-80k is still bitterly complaining, such people will still complain with 500k, uber is just glorified taxi driving, its all about mentality, some guys can start driving on HP n move to dia own car, from dia to 2nd car, 3rd car etc before u know it, they have a fleet of uber cars and move to buses etc. some directionless ones will driving n complaining n still continue driving instead of seeking avenues to do things in a different way, people that are busy complaining, una won become millionaires from uber before? all uber driver r glorified taxi drivers except the ones that knows were they are "driving" themselves to.

A lot of times, we do mental arithmetic based on exchange rate.

If $500 dollars is wat you get driving full time on uber in d states per week, then its a low end paid job.

Cos you are not different from guys who flip Burger at restaurants.

The national minimum wage is around 11.8 bucks per hour.

So typically over there too, the job sucks.

Any forward thinking person must always regard Driving on UBER as a "stop-gap" and not an end in itself.

dru23:
But the funny thing is you still driving..... What is the Nigeria minimum wage now ? I think 40k naira a month .But am sure u make double that in a month doing Uber

.

Civil service.

N what do they do in the civil service,

Have you been to any govt ministry before n watch the way they work.

AngryIgboMan:
Do you know why you will see huge money on your dashboard but can't even say where the money is... O yes. I WILL TELL YOU. Its not REAL MAGIC BUT WHAT I CALL BOLT MAGIC! I will explain. Its not even hard.

BOLT being a criminal Enterprise has this very mind games and psychological warfare they PLAY on drivers to get them to work even though they know in reality that they are DOING NOTHING AND MAKING NOTHING.

Bolt adds up everything and shows to you. There Money, Your Money, Promos given to riders, Toll gate fares etc.

Lets assume as a driver that after the days work you are seeing 20 thousand naira on your dashboard. Technically you have not made any money for the day oo. You are just another IDDIOT working for others every other day. Its even worse when you are driving for someone. I pity you then if you make only 10k or 13k on dashboard and smiling sheepishly that your hard work is paying off. Let me explain.

If you want to make 20 thousand daily on ehailing, you need at least 6k fuel to do that. This is a hard fact. If you are paying car owner 30k a week, that means you owe him or her 5k everyday thats if you drive for 6 days oo. But if you drive 5 days... Lol. You owe car owner 6k everyday. Bolt 20% commission inside 20k is 4,000. If you use car wash, thats 500 naira. There is no way you drive to make 20k and still be able to lift a finger to wash car the next day unless you are an animal.

You will also 6k fuel for the next day hustle if you are targetting 20k again. Yes. You have to add it because there is no way 6k fuel of yesterday will last you till the next day after making 20k the previous day. Toll gates maybe 500 to 1k. I said maybe. You will need at least minimum of 1k to feed if you dont eat at home. Even if you eat at home, most drivers I know are always eating like people fighting a war. Always throwing down sharp sharp food down there throath. Haba.... Plantain chips, Kilishi, Soft drinks, Gala, African Salad, Ponmo, Buns, Egg Roll, Mai Mai etc. Thats why if they mess, the bomb no be here

Anyway I don't blame them. Driving burns energy and that means you need food always to replenish lost energy.

So lets add everything together and see how Uche the criminal is making you move Lagos abi Awkuzu

Your Target for today is 20k

Fuel today = 6 k
Car owner money = 5k
Bolt Commission = 4k
Car Wash= 500
Toll gate =600 (Maybe or maybe not but Bolt adds it)
1k for feeding
Fuel for the next day= 6k (Abi you no go fuel? Where will the money come from

So Total is
23,000 Naira

Deficit of 3k already

Even if you want, argue that you dont use upto 6k fuel daily. The same Mathematics pursues you around in principle because it means you made lesser money for the day. That makes it worse for you if you are driving for somebody.

You still want to argue abi? How come you are broke now? Yes You! Abi I lie?

Anytime you sit down and wonder if you are moving forward or backward in this life with this bolt business;

Nwanne, Let me assure you that all you have been moving all these while is Nnewi and not Lagos. Uche the crafty Scorpion is a smooth criminal. Owelugo magic piasa unu isi.... unu abuluzia Ndi Mgbu. I marvel at his wisdom to chain drivers.

Boss . You said it all.

I asked drivers that say they make 20k daily one question.

Is the earnings consistent?

The other day a lady rider I picked told me that one Bolt driver told her he makes 15k daily.

I told them that's not possible, probably he is talking of gross.

They kept insisting, I had to keep quiet.

Cos if you make 15k daily, that's like
#330,000- 350,000 take home in a month.

#330,000 in a month !. Well, I don't believe cos you can't be making #330,000 monthly and not look the part.



How much is the salary of a manager in most NIGERIAN companies.

The fares are low.

"nitigriti " once mentioned developing n moving into other things.

I think that's the best approach, save some money and transition into somtin else, n while growing the new gig, one can still use uber for support.

tojahh:
You can't make 100k in a month driving only weekend... Let no one deceive you.

Thank you for shedding more light.

Earnings on uber will only make sense @ 3%. and to get that, you would have to give them 20 trips.

As a newbie, i doubt you can catch 20 trips in 2 days, even if you catch 20 trips over the weekend. By Monday 4am, the 3% window will be closed.

@ smyakins, Why not go through the cooperative route?

[quote author=blissbliss post=8![/quote]Also, he didn't state the terms of loan , like interest rate.

Also, the 8-5 work, is it demanding cos driving on uber n taxify takes two things,

1. Your time
2. Physical exhaustion

Can they put the terms of the loan like 50k monthly, so you just need to make like 12.5k for the car every week.

Drivers that make a lot of incredible earnings on uber/ bolt literally have ZERO social life, they are always in the car n on the road.

I'm saying this cos, if you have family, on weekends , you will b unavsilable for them, no more time so as to meet up.

If you can make the terms like 45k monthly , since you have only 8- 10 days to work in a given month,that wud b good.

That wud put less pressure on you and the car.

PS: It wud Only Work if YOU drive the car urself, DON'T be Tempted to SUBLET the car to another Driver.

DON'T be tempted to SUBLET on weekdays

Work the what you can on weekends and
Providence will make your expectations align.

Goodluck!

Kala11:
Thank boss.
Yes am using it for uber but on weekends (Saturday n Sundays) that's when I use it actively.

Mobil oil (not so sure of the type) is what I use as that was my first service of the car since I bought it. I'm open to to any suggested oil that can withstand the hustle. Someone recommended I use Rozarium 5w30 on my next service of the car.

If i may ask, what is the difference between mineral technology and synthetic oil and what mileage i mgy suppose cover before servicing?

You can check the cap of the engine to chek d specifiks/ weight of the oil.

But regardless, stick to the particular BRAND of oil you HV been using.


From my layman's understanding, the difference is in d cost.

Mineral technology- 3,800 - 4,8000 / 4 litre keg

Synthetic - around 16k.

So from d price, you would know which category u use.

From experience, I blv regular change of oils prevents sludge formation in the engine.

Kala11:
I greet all the elders statesman in the house. Your immeasurable contributions and assistance to this forum over the years has proven you all worthy of elders. More grease to your elbows.

Please, I did my toyota Corolla 05 car servicing sometimes in late November, about 2months now. It occur to me yesterday that I check my engine oil then I noticed the oil is short (the oil gauge is just at the below dotted point of the stick) without any sign whatsoever. The engine works fine, not smoky and no signs of short engine oil on my dashboard. What could possibly be the cause.

Are you using it actively like for uber n bolt or private use.

What type of oil are u using? Mineral technology or Synthetic.

If its Mineral, and you use it for uber ( commercial use). Try n change the oil.

Personally, I use mineral technology, hence I drain oil Every month.

EZENDIZUOGU:
Oga, it is more of politics than you think. they just want to erase Ambode legacies

the whole roundabout n its appendages has to go.

I believe you have never been in allen traffic gridlock before. You cud b held there for over 1hr 30 mins. Esp in the evening.

Several traffic experiences along Allen n it was not pleasant.

In BTW: Are you aware that the only roundabout left in d lekki - epe corridor( phase 1) is also to b removed.


Stop d unnecessary sentiments.

Allen roundabout predates even Ambode.

peeps4u:
Did they do bank transfer so that they can be traced?


Tag @segalink on twitterand narrate the whole thing and watch what happens.

This is why Nigeria is rated one of the most corrupt nations. These ones will never say anything good about Nigeria again, that it even came from a law enforcement agency.

Yes @ segalink on twitter.

But they mite not go thru that route cos of immigration.

From, the narrative, it seems they have expired visas, hence reason why the SARS pple exploited them.

All in all, its bad reputation for the country.

A whole #112,000 naira. for moving at midnite.

Who will save Nigeria?

Prince3:
Please guy I have gotten this offer for more than 3weeks now but I don't know if it's okay since I will be using it on Uber and bolt platform. Picture of chats attach below. Please what do guys think even if I can beat it for 30k weekly ...

HP of 3.8m! No .pls don't.

If you have 500k cash with you. Exercise patience.

Take these steps.

1. Put the 500k in a money market fund for now.( ask abt money market, most banks run it) so that you won't spend it.

2. Try and get a car on rental. From your proceeds on the rental. Join a reputable cooperative group (esusu/ Alajo) . the market women will give you a reliable one.

3. Save for like 6 months on the Cooperative platform, you can then ask for a loan which youvwill repay gradually and you must not disappoint your guarantor.

4. Add it to the one in d fund and go n buy a cirrolla 03/04.

5. Don't forget if you default in paying on HP and there is a fallout, your 500k has gone with the wind.

6. HP is a rat race. That's like 80 weeks (2 years) of your life paying debts.

7. From the narration of your chats, your prospective principal will be unforgiving.

8. Start with rentals. and hold your cash tightly.

Goodluck !

FreelanceRebel:
There is job in agricultural sector but we are underestimating it.
$ Get a Land
$ Hire labourer to work and plant
$ Watch over it
$ Harvest and sell

Best answer so far

peeps4u:
So Gmap misled you?

No .d google map didn't mislead, it behaves like DT.
D oda turning to Maryland is the second turning. To the right. and not d first turning. ( coming from 3mb after d petrol station.).

It's leading you through kudirat abiola way.

mayorhy:
This thread is just filled with selfish, narcissistic, insensitive money mongers. I mean even though 2.9 surge is what the market is and is really not your fault but couldn't you at least show empathy? For a trip of 2900 someone ended up paying 8700 because of low supply of cars at that moment is that not heart breaking? Paying 300% of the cost of a service ?You yourself can you pay that without grudge? She felt like crying and that gladdens your heart? And to top it off you gave someone that just paid you 8700 for a trip of N2900 one star because you FELT she was going to give you one star! All we care for is about money in this country that we have forgotten how to be human.

Look at you! I mean look at wat you just posted. You write from a standpoint of ignorance.

Before a rider locks a ride on uber, he/she is provided with a price estimate dictated by the interplay of demand and supply at that point in time.

He/she accepts n along the way the riders feel or hope that the pricing mite change .I.e go down.

The rider vents his/ her frustration on the driver by dishing out 1 star.

Are you aware that 25% of the secured goodies goes to Uber.

So the question is? Who should the rider be mad at?
1.The algorithms that dictate the fares;

2. the driver that came for d pick up or

3. the rider who had a foreknowledge of the price estimate but still went ahead to engage the ride.
( what happened to waiting for a while to check back on the app wen d is no more surge).

Why cry foul when everything was in your control. i.e ability to cancel d trip.

Try and be objective.

LabDNA:
So a stranger who is driving through for the first time into Lekki will be denied right of movement and entry?

The stranger will be offered the option of buying a voucher by their agents.

DonJoeSneh:
Bosses, i want to ask another question...i will be asking a lot since I'm just about joining you guys. Please, why do i see drivers complaining about hold-ups....i think it's best for us as fares will be increasing the more we are delayed, or am i getting it wrong? Cos me for kuku like to dey sleep for the holdup make money dey increase ooo.

On uber #7.50k / min or #450 per hour
Bolt- #8/ min or #480 per hour.

With Engine blasting on four cylinders, ac blazing and you being mentally alert. That's a bad deal

Bruh. Excessive traffic is bad biz in this racket.

Danester:
Good morning my people of Lagos. Please which areas in Lagos should be avoided going as uber driver. Thanks

Make I drop two.

1. APAPA.

2.Badagry

GuyWise101:
He abandoned the little girl when she was in the womb, never cared for her when she was growing up...


He now appears from nowhere and started claiming the girl he abandoned just because he has seen that she is nearing to be married just so that he can eat the bride price. (thats wickedness)

That's a vindictive spirit.

Let the girl decide whether she wants to know her real father.

You can't deny her that right.

And why are you thinking of bride price as a form of business or fund generation activity.

You want a refund for taking care of your own.

Felicity001:
Guy did I ask you for a rental? Or when was the last you read a post from me stating I’m still in need of a car? If you or any other person need information weather I have gotten one or not simply ask me directly instead of you coming through the kitchen door to seek information.

If my comments like you pointed can/will scare away potential partner what’s your business about that? Must I agree with everybody on everything or will everyone like me?

People like you and that big for nothing that thinks he has wisdom are the type that judge a book from its cover.

If that id0t sees me In person I’m very confident he’ll wee in his pants.

If someone don’t have something reasonable to post let them simply observe and read other people’s comments instead of displaying like kids asking stupid questions they already have an answer to.

Social media is not for people that can’t take criticism else it will destroy once life and reputation.

Apologise brother.

don't justify your wrong use of words.

I'm sure 9 out of 10 partners when faced wt such a dilemma will have taken dapotemi's approach.

The surge helps increase earnings without too much toil on the road.

Surge trips are golden moments for every driver. It can't be ignored.

Oluwabengz:
Meanwhile, I don't know the reason Uber/Bolt driver use this Taxi sign on top their very/ neat Corrola or Camry at night. Don't they think of the risk of picking random persons that could pose a threat to their valuables

Those guys r not uber drivers o.
They are registered with d Lagos transport union.

No one can put that taxi sign without proper dues n documentation.

They don't drive on uber

Ndibunna:
Wailers just arrived.

Did Bill Gates finished school?

All these forced education by awolowo is too deadly for refined development.

Bill gates was in Harvard. Ask wat it takes to get a placement in Harvard..

Bill gates was exceptionally brilliant.

Same with Zuckerberg.

Harvard is da creme da ka creme of d ivy league schools.

Education takes you far. Not getting certificates for the mere sake of looking for jobs.

Larry page and sergey brin were. PhD students @ Stanford university when they created Google.

So my friend, don't be misguided, education takes you far.

Blame our educational system and the actors.

But not for one moment, look down on getting education.

bigiyaro:
guys, my bros is arranging to get me a corolla by Jan or Feb. please, between Lagos and abuja, where can one make good money on e-hailing? though I know Lagos is more hectic than abj but I don't mind that.

It depends on you broda.

You will also make money in Abj . the diff is just that in Lag, there is an unending stream of riders at any time of the day.

In Lagos. On weekends, you cash out big time cos people attend events n social functions.

In Abuja, weekends are usually dry revenue wise as against the weekdays.

In Lagos, you can't predict traffic, the ehailing coys HV rigged the apps such that you only make money when you r moving ( covering miles)
Bolt will pay you #8 for every min. Just look @ that !

In Abj, traffic is minimal except some areas like Mararaba- Nyanya - AYA axis ( time specific, rush hours) Kubwa- suleja axis ,
Galadima roundabout- games village axis( time specific too)

Although d kind of traffic over there is child's play to d dt of Lagos.


In Abj, good road network, no harassment , no local govt boys, no lastma ,except d agberos n dy don't disturb you if you don't pick deir passengers.

But if you want the Lion's share, you need a Lion's heart, and that my broda, can only be gotten in Lasgidi.

Good luck !

Seniors pls, if one needs to clean the mass airflow sensor in a corolla 06.

Where is it located

and can one use carburator cleaner to clean it.

Cos I have checked for mass air flow sensor cleaner n I HV not been able to get in the local market around.