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izzou:
So sorry sir

But I wonder how you guys drive to a pickup without asking for destinations.

Me? I ask every single time. You must tell me before I release my legs from the brakes

No vex again

boss. I thot since d thing was on destination trip, i thot it was on auto already. I felt worst case, maybe gbagada . I paid dearly for it.

Drove on uber yestday, thinking I was going to hit some cool bucks.

Mostly short trips. I was still hoping till lyk 7pm. I was @ Admiralty lekki phase 1.

So I set destination to Ikeja.

Ist request: beep from d app :'' rider going towards your destination'

Rider got in . cool dude , headed towards olorogun agbaje v.I

In my mind, i said that's still a good.one dropped him off @ v.i

2nd request, 7.23 pm. beep from app : rider going towards ur destination.

For my mind, I tort dis app is looking out for me o.

Got to rider off sanusi fafunwa.
I start trip, I got a shocker of my life , " FESTAC"

Pls wats d correlation BTW festac n Ikeja.
The trip started 7.30 pm n ended lik 20mins to 10pm.


The bill #2,287. For over 2hrs of intense traffic.

and the inner roads of festac ? what a place.!

Festac inner roads looks like armored tanks took a vacation on them.

I don't know wat uber is thinking.

I was on quarter tank at V.I. before d trip, wen I got to festac, my tank was lredy on red.

I had to buy 2k fuel before I left festac around past 10pm. Penny wise pound foolish, the money I got was used to fuel again. I got home some mins to 12 midnite.

Lessons learnt:
1. Never trust a machine. The app railroad me to festac. I was confident in its ability to take me to Ikeja.

2. Always ask destination before going to pickup.esp from 7pm.

3. FESTAC has been added to the list of " no go zones ". Even if there is a surge of 45*.
I will never go to festac again.

Regards to the Seniors,

tunlapapa:
Now this is where I draw the curtains. Your post motivated me chase 100k but I couldn't cos of too much waiting time on Saturday and I never worked beyond 6pm daily.

Boss, well-done, pls a quick one. Do you use current or savings account to get your payment from uber.

olalekan90:
Good evening house, pls does taxify inspection centers
open on saturdays?

yes.they do. Taxify inspection centres are not being operated by Taxify, they are privately run.

Check the one closest to your location . goodluck.

Seniors, pls I have been temporarily banned on taxify till 4pm. Reasons, many clients HV cancelled .v

I called their support no. its ringing but its not been answered.

Advice needed pls.

MrDraey:
Thanks a lot for your feedback, I appreciate.

can I get a Clean EOD 2004 for less than or at 1M? (tokunbo)

I wouldn't know. Check the popular car sites in naija to know the going rates.

Crvrider:
Sometime last week I complained about a whining noise that I thought was my power steering pump; turned out it was my water pump! So I got another one for N5000. To say the least, my mechanic told me N10,000. Jeez!

Has anyone got to fix a water pump before? What is the average labour cost for this type of fix?

I HV had mine fixed before, though a Nissan. N not SUV. The water pump is located behind the pulley on the right side of the engine block.

So he removes the front right tyre, removes the pulley, n fix.

I used a kazeem, then maybe 2 or 2.5k service fee , but it depends on ur mech.
My mech charges fairly.

thelastorca:
I have decided not to bother. From a security and privacy perspective, only a very foolish high net worth individual would use uber. If you want to compare tobi of bbn with a ceo, that's fine.

You realise multinationals have security offices that issue safety warning bulletins? Do you know the amount of risk exposure I would get as a ceo riding uber? My phone number would automatically be available to people outside of a closed circle. That is a safety risk all on its own. You people think all ceos are created equal? You think ceo of gtb bank is the same as ceo of cakes and cream?

Some things are not worth arguing. It is however interesting to observe thought processes and rationalisations.

Theres a thread on fp where a babe started getting calls from a driver. I cannot begin to imagine the nonsense that would happen with a ceo, in this Nigeria, especially with Nigerians wey no get filter. Common sharing my phone no during close meeting, I started getting yahoo calls from the abroad

You mean high net individuals have only one phone number?

Have you heard of request by proxy before?

And what's the role of their personal assistants in that case.

Most times their P.As attend to such issues


Don't argue again.

MrDraey:
Its a private job-bank to be precise

To a large extent yes I can navigate abuja routes, not all though.

I reside at Asokoro and as for rider influx/movement, not so much but I believe I can get help from colleagues/ex-colleagues who are into the business

As regard the HP I can come up with down payment that can cover a 2months or 3

Truth is, the HP is what I am a bit concerned about, although the agreement will be for a monthly return

How many months will it take to service the HP?

Is the vehicle tokunbo ( brand new foreign used).

I
How sure are you about the vehicle? performance wise, if its naija used.

Why not do this?

Ask the person to allow you do rental for two weeks. This will enable you to see how the car performs. ( if its naija used)

The two weeks is a test of your ability, you would have to forgo two weeks of your savings to test-run.


NB: Do not pay money in advance on HP. Do it weekly going forward ( that's worst case). and not monthly, you are going to need funds when you start.

Offline trips r wat really gives money in Abj. Fares on uber n taxify r ridiculously low given the comfort of the rides involved.

Let's run a weekly scenario

HP- 25k
You- 25k
Fuel- 20k

Net- 70k.

That's a tall order for a beginner. So start from rental, so that you can learn the ropes.

pope191:
My last 2 riders r just funny set of people, my rating have dropped so drastically, but its all good. The drag with the first was passing the toll gate when it was opened freely to all motorist, so she insist not to pay for toll gate and I made her understand, I'm meant to take what the app display. The second one went to mart to get some stuff, from dia to 2 different banks, then to get shawarma, as we r driving on she saw a local food vendor and ask me if I can cross over to get food for her... I turned to her in funny manner and ask what? She said food, I crack a smile and politely tell her no, I don't do such. I drive on and she saw another place and ask if I can help her get food nah, other drivers do help out, I'm wicked, dis dat, I'm going to get a star... It is well, this too shall pass

Boss, don't be dissuaded some riders are like that. Since you didn't go, though it cost you.

I salute your resoluteness. Your mere act has implanted an impression that not all drivers can take any kind of shitty errands.

If she encounters 5 or more drivers that display the same kind of gentle but firm refusal to degrade the partner job on e-hailing. Then it wud b d standard.

Sometimes I wonder, wat is wrong with some riders, you are not handicapped/physically challenged neither are you an invalid, yet you refuse to run your own errands.

I will write uber and Bolt a message on the need to address their riders in mails and texts on the purpose why the platform was created : ease of movement from one location to another in Lagos.



That is beyond customer service, the other day, a Lady too asks one dude here to buy her a pack of protection.



I don't think uber and bolt regularly sensitize (in mails n msgs) their riders on inappropriate behaviour towards the driver.

All I see them doing is sending messages n bonus and certain discounts to bring in more revenue.

There is a certain level of professional distance that has to b maintained, we r meeting for the first time n you start sending me to buy you food.

Bolt and Uber needs to up their game on inappropriate rider behaviour, not rating this time.

MrDraey:
Good morning people,
Please I am on a verge of going into this business here in Abuja.

However, I am new in town. From enquiry and all I have read here, with the business being saturated, I really need you guys' advise.

Tired of my 9-5job (pays less than 80k) which I want to quit and I have a Honda civic 2010 model at my disposal for HP.

Please guys, I urgently need your raw advise

Mr draey.

Please answer these questions.

Is your work a govt job or private.?

Are you familiar with the routes in Abuja? I'm not asking weda you know the roads, google maps will help you out?

I am asking weda you know where
things happen per time as regards rider movement/influx.

e.g if you are in Gwarinpa around 6-7pm ,then you should try n move out n drive back to wuse 2, cos movement @ DT tym is inward bound n not outward anymore.

Also on Fridays, people move out of Abj, cos sat n sun, no govt activity. So where the airport hussle is brewing , you nid to know.

Or try n move to 3rd avenue, though that MIT b a tad risky cos 3rd n 1st avenue r always on lockdown wt traffic in d evenings
3rd avenue esp around H medix.

Cos HP is a ticking time bomb DT you HV to defuse every week.

To do transport biz on HP , u HV to hit the ground running. and if you are newbie, you can NEVER hit the ground running (making the required funds to service your HP weekly.)

So don't b in a haste to quit your job.

Look at the pros and cons, do you have a principal that is considerate n might overlook one week or two weeks default.

Cos YES, you are going to default, you need a principal that is considerate and patient.

in these game, there are a lot of variables you won't see except you start.

Answer all these, then we pick up from there.

Strat632:
Good evening house,hope we all had a great day despite d rain?may God continue to be with us....I am a new driver it's my first week,every thing have being cool so far except for GOOGLE MAP.its not helping my matter at all and I am ot good with Lagos road at all.i have just being so lucky with riders that directs me all along.pls any1 that can help with a solution?I have uninstalled and redownload it's still d same issue.it does not navigate,it will just be on d first instruction from d point and start then later tell me at d end about my destination.abeg make una help a brother

restart your phone, check weda ur data is running, I use mtn cos of mast and data coverage.


Set ur starting point as" ur location"
Then put your address, for instance, if its a popular place, e.g The Place ( a restaurant close to Maryland). Just input it n it will lead you there.


Google map is the ultimate guide.

Open your eyes and watch out for traffic signs o. Esp. one Ways. Cos some roads r not yet updated on google.

More importantly ask for help from your rider.

Some riders are willingly to direct you. So don't be afraid to ask for help.


Also, if u can afford it, use a different phone for the google maps so DT dy don't affect your fares on deir shitty app.

tojahh:
Omg. Onircus! What's this na? I've picked an exec! Yes and Executive of a blue chip company with over 300 staff only in Lagos. The man sat in the front seat and his secretary (Male) was asked to sit at the back.
Baba was just making official calls and getting jobs done as we drove about. Even when the map took me to a different place, the man didn't complain, he just said be observant and careful... These things are treacherous!

Bros.. No be only you dey work for blue chip company, no be only you sabi Big men, no be only you sabi executives. Don't argue this, I'll tell you a thing. On Saturday the CEO of Pinehurst Luxuries and Homes was in my car even when the car was misfiring he stayed with me till I managed to get him to his destination (Card Trip).

Thank God, I am not d only one with such experience of picking a top executive.

Other guys r coming out with deir experiences.

@ ornicu or baba blue chip, dere is no ignorance on this thread, if I tell you I picked a top flight executive, then that is d case.

Like I said earlier n Tojah is also confirming.
These guys r down to earth., they don't care about your status, for them ders dignity in labour.

Ofcos folks like you DT almost had a fit for being charged a cancellation fee can't undastand wat I'm saying.

GidiWoodsMan:
Make no mistake about it bro, some top execs use uber. Moved quite a number of them around during my uber phase a few years ago. . . .Abi what do you call an executive board member of a bank with operations strewn over all the west African countries, that's a top dog if I ever saw one

don't mind the guy, he has no experience in e- hailing.

The top shots in dese companies are down to earth dudes.

Are you going to get a foreknowledge of ur rider before pick-up? Dese things happen instantaneously, gbam, he is in d car n you guys r lredy on the Trip.

D chances of meeting again, very slim,

Tell me which sort of kidnappers target riders in uber .

thelastorca:
I Yimu you right back. Maybe you are confusing a manager with an exec. An exec with an official car, official driver, police escort will take an uber? Why?

Na so oga at the top go come down from 2019 range rover to 2003 corolla? With no safety? A person who has a paid for driver? Anyway sha, there are top guys and top guys is all I will say.

People like you will be confusing banking officers with executives. I'm sure you will tell me next that a teller is also a banker.

What do you know?
Greatness hides in plain sight

I don't need to engage you. You have zilch experience in the transport biz.

Ask folks in d Fct, how political and biz power brokers move around.

thelastorca:
An executive will not ride Uber either. He will ride in his sub and police escort .

yinmu.what do you know?
You are not even a driver partner.

My first ever trip on bolt. I picked a top guy @ d bank from Ogba to keystone bank HQ. V.island

thelastorca:
Rejecting rides dilutes the quality of the platform. This reduces users and reduces revenue.

On this thread, there are already complaints that oride is taking over, not so?

In the end, if uber does, who suffers, me? Or the drivers?

totally incorrect.
Lagos is a very big market.
Orides may grab a chunk of the delivery aspect.


I don't see an executive flying a bike on d 3MB.

nitigriti:
No, Izzou. The driver should not damage his car because of the customer.

He should take his car off the platform — Uber or Taxify; since he is not okay with the services the platform is providing for him.

So long as he keeps his car on the platform, he is obligated to provide service according to the terms and conditions of the platform.

#StrictlyBusiness #NoSentiments

Boss, there's no need for such drastic measures, that's why the platform also created a leeway ( cancellations).

In the t&c you mentioned, the driver /partner can cancel if he feels unsafe about a trip.

There are roads in Lagos that can make u unsafe, terrain-wise.

You are not required by the T&C to complete all trips accepted.

Bolt tries to drive up completion rates among drivers, hence their bonus/ BTW 5am-9am.

I mentioned in the earlier thread. The bonuses should be tagged to such areas. This will make some drivers have a rethink n consider the cost/ benefit analysis.

I drive to point A (#1,600) fairly good roads.

I drive to point B (#1,600) terrible roads.

Most drivers would chose option A. This leaves the rider frustrated.

But consider this model

Destination A (#1,600)

Destination B (#1,600) + #1,500 completion bonus.

Trust me a lot of drivers would b tempted to reconsider.

This is the way to go.


As long as the algorithms at their servers will not do a differential pricing as regards location (not surge)

The cancellation of a thing will Neva stop.

GidiWoodsMan:
But why is it that uber allows the driver to see rider destination before accepting a trip in other countries, except for Nigeria.

Why do they deliberately take advantage of certain negative peculiarities of the Nigerian business environment to shortchange their driver-partners?

You mean in other countries where they operate, the rider's destination is known beforehand.

Seniors,
Pls. How does dis rating of a thing work on Bolt.
I have been on 5 stars since Friday.

How can I check the riders that rated me?

At the end of all my rides like 20 rides. My rating has remained 5 star on the home page.. So the last rider (21st) I picked from adeola odeku going to Surulere. Card trip

Rider complained Ac was not cold enough. Had to put it on the highest.

At the end of the ride. Was told to end trip n rider still wanted to see amount. 1,600.


In my mind :"I was like don't you people get to see amount sent to your mail" immediately.

I left surulere immediately to embark journey towards Ijaiye road. Homeward bound.

0n my way home around 7.45pm, I saw my rating has dropped to 4.8.

So I want to ask, could it be the last rider ( surulere)that caused the rating to drop to 4.8 or other riders also added to the rating.

Cos I don't remember doing anything wrong. Comments were civil n only spoke when spoken to.

I even helped offload some of items bought unto the porch of the apartment.

Pls seniors, shed some light.

Cc: DeeDee ,xana, izzou, xghost, Gazzuzz, pope, iyaegin, slsmstanlee, and all dem seniors.

GAZZUZZ:
enter ogudu kack for there first. But if u de near ICM you might be lucky .

thanks boss. If I'm correct, ogudu shd b if I pass under otedola bridge then I turn to the right and proceed from there.

I tried mko abiola gardens, but from my riders app, I'm looking at over 6 bolt cars also positioning.

Seniors, which positioning will get a trip to V.island from Ikeja. axis. Presently around Alausa.

lin3r2:
Na wa o, since morning only 6 trips worth 5000

thot it was only myself being that I Neva too sabi, 8,700 since early momo. Taxify why!

Seniors,
I set destination on taxify to v.island. since like 5.40a.m. I could not get island trips.

Just like two short trips. One to oko oba estate scheme 1, the inner roads so bad. I won't go there again.

Presently @ CAC ikeja,

I blv d taxify destination trip is just hogwash.

izzou:
You think drivers don't FORWARD THEIR COMPLAINTS THROUGH OFFICIAL CHANNELS AND PRESS FOR REVIEWS?

You really think so?

izzou, don't mind them. During d training @ bolt, they told us if a rider fails to pay a cash trip, we shd report back to them that they wud pay.

I asked someone i met at the training centre who drives on Bolt, he told me point blank. If you don't collect your cash (cash trip) from your rider, then you are the greatest mugu in Lagos.
He even told me he doesn't do transfers, cash or he drags you to the nearest police station.

I was like

Why will a rider order a trip n try n play smart.

Seriously, I still wonder why the apps can't display the riders destination before accepting a trip.

That way cancellations will b minimal, you got 15 secs to decide whether you are going to a place or not.

Infact riders will have reduced wait time. Cos whoever accepts the trip is already aware of where he is going. So no need of cancellation after accepting.

And the e companies can now profile the destinations mostly avoided by drivers n place their ' bonuses' on such areas to drive up acceptance rates.

That way everybody wins : the company, the driver, the rider.

nitigriti:
Drivers on Uber and Bolt are free to reject or cancel trips they don't like. It is the reason it is possible to do both — reject or cancel — on both apps.

However, Uber and Bolt understand that not all trips will be a bad proposition to a particular driver; that's why they peg cancelation rates before penalty at a maximum, say 25%. Once any driver's cancellation rate goes above this threshold in a given week, the account is suspended.

A driver somewhere is looking for that same trip to Epe on Uber that you rejected. One man's poision is another man's meat.

and why doesn't the system give to the Epe drivers such trips, and if you want to go to Agbara give to the Agbara drivers, if there are also the sango otta drivers , give to them too. Why must it give trips to drivers who will eventually cancel.

epistleNow:
Guys be careful today, no let surge put you into wahala oh
*as seen from today's report on the road*

pls where in Lagos is this?

Seniors, pls let us not allow a single guy to derail this glorious thread.

The last 4 pages, ?

Heck, he is not even a driver partner with Uber/ bolt.

If he is aggrieved, he should report to Uber n end it there, n not bring the reportage to this place.

The purpose of this thread is to inform n learn from the experiences of others. The gurus and the greenhorns.

@ izzou: keep doing the good work broda.
That's d kind of energy I like getting on this platform. Positive vibes only.

olaoye15:
Chief.. it seems your are experienced in e hailing business in Abuja..

I need to meet with you as I want to share from your wealth of experience.

I intend moving my 5 months old Toyota corolla for Lagos to Abuja for the e hailing business.

I run a registered construction company but I think I can also put my such venture.. I intend venturing into it in December while I run my business a long side..I am gonna drive it myself.

I don't mind it we can have a drink together somewhere very soon.

Thanks..
How do I connect with you?

send me a pm. E hailing in Abj is not like Lagos. In fact, I can tell you, Uber is clutching to the straws over there and Bolt is surviving also by slashing fares further in Abj.

Do you plan to use it as a side gig or the main thing? Or is that the reason why you are going to Abuja.

But not to worry as long as you have a sound corolla with AC. You would get offlines. It might take a few months though to build your list of clientele.

And a great avenue to connect. Like I said earlier , forget d riders that pose in the owners corner n control you here n there.

The real riders that are willingly to help or assist you in anyway are down to earth

So never overlook anyone by dressing or speech. The predominant tribe over there are willingly to help you and their elites are down to earth.

I will give you an example.

I picked a woman and her daughter around
Wuse zone 3 former military pensions board in the morning.

The route:
Drop the daughter @ a school in wuse 2 besides Ap plaza n from there take here to here office in same Wuse2.

We got talking, n d was music playing on the radio. She kind of liked d music.
I told her DT music is good for the body cos its therapeutic n esp cos music hits the 'soul' WC is where all energies com from.

I dropped her @ d office same wuse2 n she gave me 3k. I'm not sure we spent up to 20mins ( around 4km) for everything. Ideally, the fare shouldn't be more than #600 ( in all).

But like I said earlier, the riders that will give you money won't seem or look lyk it.

This is purely off line.

numerous examples abound.

ornicus:
i guess i can understand why a lot of companies use aptitude tests. no point in trying to engage people whose thinking is so faulty that they cannot even grasp basic ethics.

a lot of the rubbish i have read here is also a revalidation of the fact that most nigerians are unemployable.

and aptitude tests will screen out those that don't have basic ethics?.

When last did you write an aptitude test?

Aptitude tests in nigeria are meant to screen the thousands of applicants for a position to the barest minimum and not to screen unethical individuals.



You have reported the driver, wat again are you flogging the issue for.

Tell me, wat again do you want.

cypherz:
Please can anyone tell me

1) how Bolt or Uber vets their partners and how much its costs?

2) How Uber/Bolt receive their 20% cut from cash trips paid to partners.

3) How many days does it take uber/taxify to pay tenor payment to riders.

I appreciate the anticipated response.

. they will take their charges from a card trip you complete.
For instance, I did a first ( CARD)trip from ogba to V.island ystday. @ #3,700.

1st trip Bolts cut is - #740. from that 1st deal.(20%)
2nd trip - adeola odeku to Lekki.
Cash trip end @ 1,800.
2nd trip Bolt. Cut - #320. But since they cant get their money from me physically, they would remove (#320) it from the balance on my card trip.

So, for d two trips, they remove -#1,060.

And that's how it goes my friend, plus n minus, in- out, in- out till payday