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Felicity001:
The cap has told you what to use you’re still asking again ok go and buy road side side oil it’s only 500/ltr that should serve well all of them r 5w30.

He is asking for brand of oil. 5W30 . but which of them, Mobil, total, etc.

oluwashola4me:
Good evening, brother.
I took the Uber online test yesterday, please how long do I have to wait for a response from them?
Thanks.

24 hrs

Brainbox0806:
There it goes again, 32,800 naira fined paid to the airport suckers. Guys, make sure you learn the airport rules b4 going there, they seems to have endless rules to keep milking drivers, glaringly, they don't want uber or bolt in that vicinity, cos it's spoiling business for the local drivers assigned there. Was there to pick up a bossy driver, got to a spot where every car is parked line up,slow moving,so no space to move ahead faster,spot the rider with a grown up son (15/16 yrs), told her the boot is open, put ur ' just' two luggage in there, she said,oga pls come down and do ur work, was like OK,let me quickly help out since the mother n son considered themselves handicap, immediately I step out , my tyre was clamped. What was my offence,? part of my car was on the zebra cross line, bossy rider begged with me for like 5 mint, having realized it was her fault. Next is oga I'm tired, handed me 2k, pls sort your self then disappeared with her son, left to clean the shit alone, begged, pleaded, all fell on deaf ears, they make jest of me,saying the begging department is closed, young guys not up to my age,gosh,I've seen shit in this my adventures driving. They say, I will pay 2500 naira each day my car sleep there, n my tyres will be deflated in few minutes if I don't pay on time, additional 1k to be paid if tyres get deflated, angrily pay then left shattered. I'm just in this job barely 3 weeks so don't know much abt the airport rules to outlines here, but the gurus in this line should help list the possible airport rules for the newbies so not to fall victims, cos I saw two more drivers fell victims b4 I left there that night. God bless u all. Be careful of riders that ask you to go extra miles to please them, when the burble burst,they will only tell u bye bye, clean ur shit up.

Sorry bro.

Read about XGhost post on "Airport"
Its a precis of all dos n don't. I think d t
Post shd b in September.

Personally, I don't like airport pick ups.
The riders don't seem to realise that the ground rules there have set them up as "bait"

I don't carry all riders.

Like d female rider DT went to stand @ CMS car park waiting for pick up yesterday. Of all places to stand, its where activity is non stop DT where you chose to stand.

I told her to cancel after endlessly trying to find a spot to stop.

Felicity001:
You sure say saka no follow?
That net you claim is not the real net.

Your real net is after fuel, feeding, call card, subscription fee, toll fee, weekly balancing for rental/HP, minor repair and miscellaneous deductions. So after all of these deductions then come back and tell us your real net.

My broda tell them

Like some folks DT quote gross earnings as Net.

Don't go too far. Give him a breather.

Your Net = Gross income - Total Fuel cost used.

They will also add tolls as part of earnings, something you already gave LCC.

Fuel Nko, cos fuel is a cost element you expend 'going forward'.

I.e. if you buy fuel of #5,000 and when you are about to top up. The uber dashbiard says #19000.

Your net @ DT point is #14k

DTS how someone mentioned he did 13 trips with fuel of #2,500. How can that be?

In Lagos!

ajoks533:
So you guys make this much from this hustle. I will tell my cousin who works with me taskforce to be tasking uber drivers high... Atleast, 45k for wring parking.

What about the hours of input. Long hours. To make 90k gross on taxify, you have to give up your weekend.

calabardick:
I think drivers suppose to have a platform where they post any salvage/lemon car they've driven, this will help other drivers avoid such vehicle when call for inspection, or it will also help them to know what to look out for during inspection.

Salvage cars everywhere.

A car given to an innocent driver yesterday is already giving him serious issue today. I have to tow him from Jakande (ipara) to the owner's house at sangotedo.

On my way back this evening, I was behind him at Chisco traffic light, as the light turns green we moved, suddenly his car began to jerk till it finally stopped. When I noticed the phone on his dashboard I knew he's a fellow, I overtook him, reverse then park in front of him.

The rider started to hala, i explained to her that cars can go hairwire anytime. She ordered for another and left. (The driver that came to pick the lady didn't even care to come out at least to see what's wrong with a fellow driver that warrants his passenger to request for another vehicle, even when he saw our hazard lights on, he was relaxing inside his 4 inches Corolla)

When I asked the guy what the problem was he said that today is his first day with the said car. He has no idea of whatsoever. He suggested contacting those guys at Ipara to come and check, I told him to abort that idea, but rather let him call the owner. When he call the lady I noticed the change on his face, I asked him to come inside my car so that I can hear their conversation as well. The woman asked him if she's a mechanic, if he can't sort himself out let him sleep there with the car, she drop the call.

I was angry, I got her number and call her;
Me: Good evening ma
Madam: Na who be this?
Me: Madam Funke, your car and your driver are obstructing traffic, you may come to LCC office tomorrow to claim your car.
Madam: no sir please, let me talk to my driver please
Me: Please not with my phone ma, call him.

She call the driver, by this time I've already paired his phone with my car Bluetooth so the both of us can hear.

Driver: hello ma
Madam: hello ma too, olorubruku, otiyawere
Driver: excuse me ma
Madam: so you called LASTMA to come and tow me car away, ehn? Ee no go better for you, all of you are the same
Driver: madam I don't like the way you're talking, I didn't call any LASTMA, the car breakdown at the traffic light, they help me to push it, they overhead your response when I called you, that gets them upset.
Madam: my response kill all of you dia
Driver: madam what's the way out? Are you going to call your mechanic?
Madam: young man please can you bring my car? I don't blame you, that's how the previous driver destroyed my engine, now you're planning to destroy this new engine I put at Ladipo? Please return my car, I will call Ladipo tomorrow.
Driver: please ma, how do I return this car now when it's not even starting again?
Madam: anyhow you want to do, if you like push it but I need my car here, tonight.
Driver: but ma, I (she interrupted him with a question)
Madam: how much dey your hand?
Driver: 3500
Madam: since morning? 3500? Ah, wetin I no go see for Lagos? Who sent me to do Uber business?
Driver: have you forgotten that you asked me to do alignment and balancing today, and remember there was no fuel when I pick the car, I've spent more than 10k today
Madam: look for someone that can tow you for 5k, when you get here I will pay the balance.
Driver: okay ma, but no one will collect such amount by this time plus the distance, let estimate 10k, because of traffic
Madam: 10k? Are you towing the car to hell?
Driver: I'm at Jakande, it's far
Madam: and so? Is Jakande at sango? Is Jakande at ibafo? Is Jakande at seme? Oga please bring back my car.
Driver: let me look for someone that can tow me
Madam: whatever, I'm waiting.

That's how I tow him to united estate, the basket mouth woman came out and was ranting

Madam: where the towing van?
Driver: I didn't see any so I asked someone to tow me
Madam: how much? This one isn't a towing van, it'll be cheaper
Driver: her said 15, I didn't have a choice because LCC have already positioned their van to tow the car
Madam: oga, na 7k dey my hand, he will balance you, thank you
Driver: but I told you how much I have on me?
Madam: and I told you how much I can afford, please can I have my car key?

He drop the key and we left her house, when we get to the road he gave me some money (I don't know the amount since I didn't collect), I rejected it, I told him to forget. I told him that I wanted to make sure he get some bucks from the woman, in order to recover his expenses. The guy was so excited going home with 10k

I've advice him to run away from that car and the madam, they don't worth it

Please drivers always try to be your brother's keeper, it might happen to you tomorrow. Even when I have a rider, I do slow down to ask what's the matter.

Respect. Boss

You passed the Brotherhood test in flying colours.

Thank you for helping a brother out.

Heavens have bore witness to your good deeds.

Thanks once again.

Vision2045:
Good evening house.. I seek your advice

Someone is about to offer me Toyota corolla 2005 on hire purchase... According to him the car is in good shape and nothing to repair..

I don't know much about car but will go with a mechanic..

My major primary concern is the cost payback.. What will you advice I accept as total cost back.. As I will be discussing cost with him tomorrow..

But I know he expects 30k payment weekly..

Kindly advice me plz house

Cc:
Izzou
Gentelife
Pope
Tojah

Please advice.

Awoleesu:
Who uses glass ware anymore?
Bottlng companies and Pharmaceuticals now gone pet and plastic...
Even households now use glass wares lesser than usual.


May be the hotels and bars sha...

Think out of the box.

Cars ( windshield, mirrors, windows)
House, construction. Glass buildings
etc

izzou:
...typing

Skillip
Peeps4u
Mrjaydee
Radautoworks

Welcome back brodaman.

WC side Saskatchewan , Alberta or Manitoba?

dru23:
That is why Nigeria is backwards day.. The economic is barely moving forward .. Unfortunately most of you guys can't work in service industry abroad.. Nurses, doctors, policeman, hotel concierge etc .. Do you know the type of sh*t they have to put up with.. And you guys are complaining about Nigerian uber riders been rude.. Most of you guys will end up in jail and out of work in no time..

There was a Nigerian nurse in the USA that has similar attitudes that you guys display here.. The Nigeria nurse was yelling at the patient etc. .. The nurse was fired on the spot.... The nurse was dealing with mental patients... keep in mind in USA a small boy 15 years can tell someone like you old enough to be his father to shut up. Somebody younger than u in abroad can call you by name and tell you hey come here.. Will you now start beating the person up ... people have to learn how to handle rudeness appropriately .......

Lies. All you do is trump up conspiracies.

It is on record. A good chunk of folks who left the shores of Nigeria to work abroad have always been exemplary.

OK.
A dude @ my mechs place was sharing how lastma nabbed him when he picked a passenger @ Obalende ROUNDABOUT

They took him to d office n from d usual astronomical #50,000 fine.

He eventually paid #9,200 ( still high in my opinion, just to pick person)

So please, all the axis @ OBALENDE ROUNDABOUT.
Please, endeavour to pass through only.

dru23:
At the end of the day, your approach matters when dealing in a hostile situation... A lot of you guys on the forum will not survive Customer care service industry abroad. You either end up in jail or out of a job or both. Nobody is asking anyone to take sh*t from anybody, but learn to handle situation accordingly ....

And when did customer care jobs become the plum jobs in US.

A lot of jobs for even the most temperamental person in the US.

So go away with your they won't survive sermon.

Someone suggested you try it for a week n come back n let's hear your feedback.

dru23:
You still not getting it .. Words have power ..instead of them sayin taxi drivers , they call it partners.. The objective here is distance themselves from traditional taxi business. And present the business as more of a service industry and distinguish themselves from others.

Since you guys are called " partners" when was the last time you were at uber's board meeting.. And how many shares do you have in the company?


Do you really understand what a business partner is ?

You still don't get d meaning of a partner.

In Fmcg, the trade partners are the distributors. As big as P& G is. They don't dare joke wt deir trade partners.
All d way from Singa Market, Kano, Adebiyi & sons in Suleja to d Guys @ Oke Arin , Lagos.

These guys ( may look scruffy or their environment not look it) . You play with them @ ur peril.

Cos if you want to move big stuff, get ur SKU's to move like fuel. You need them

some of dese guys do 20 - 30m turnover

So dru23 go figure d meaning of partner.

No one is talking of boardroom here. OK?

Cutiekatty:
Which vehicle are you using?

Don't be deceived , he didn't use fuel of #2,500. For 13 trips.
What happened was he bought only #2,500 fuel yesterday to d one DT was already in the tank.
And he also used a substantial amount of the fuel he had in the tank initially but didn't put that into the costing.

Give or take n regardless of d kind of machine he is using. he will need @ least 5k to do that no of trips.

Don't be carried away at all. 2,500 - 13 trips.?

manny656:
Not good enough. Made roughly 29k today with extra 4k in tips.

I'd rather say around 20. N not 28k.

First of u made gross-#9,500 on bolt n not 11900. Fuel say like 2k - so net on bolt shd b arnd 7500.

Uber say fuel of lyk 5k. too.

Post REAL earnings. N not gross. Ur posted earnings dt misinform a lot of people.

D oda day a lady rider told me I was lazy, DT a driver he met makes 15k net daily, I shook my head at her ignorance.

Yes once in a while but consistently day in day out, No.

I gave up wen she kept insisting.

demexTK:
Maitama side bruh
At nicon junction..

As a rule of thumb,

Never Drop or Pick passengers at a Bus stop or the main road if you are not a Military personnel or Member of the armed forces or paramilitary.

Nicon junction,

Banex junction ( expressway)

Berger ( all the axis)

Area 1 bus stop

Area 3 bus stop

Apo bridge

Esp if it is crowded, most of those street urchins are there.

Wuse market front gate,( I'm sure a lot of female riders tell you to do that, so that they can avoid paying #100 gate fare.

Do not drop or pick.

Wuse market bus stop ( the small bypass gate , the road stretch along zenith bank around that axis,
Utako market.

Don't pick or drop.. Else you become meat for the agberos and the men in black.
For d MIB, your offence is obstruction.

Tell your ride to stand in front of Access bank , its off the main road, so its easier to pick up.

Ur glasses up, ur central lock active. Its a no wait zone, pick n u r on d move immediately.

If your rider is not standing isolated in such areas, its a risk, cos some of dem agberos stand in the shadows esp if dy observe d rider is looking @ d phone, they know he or she is expecting a ride.

All in all you must assess d situation. Don't pick or drop a ride of #500. n end up bailing ursrlf with 2k upward.

Cos in the end, when d chips r down, you r alone, nobody is coming to rescue you.

90% of the time, d rider will leave you to your fate.

So choose wisely..

Eizenburg:
For this hypothetical earning scenario, we’ll assume 50 trips with an average of 10km and 1 hour per trip.

UBER
10km N600
60 mins N660
Base N200
Total = N1460
75% N1095
97% N1416.2
N1095 x 20 trips N21900
N1416.2 x 30 trips N42486
Total Earinings N64386


BOLT
10km N650
60 mins N600
Base N200
Total = N1450
80% N1160
90% N1305
N1160 x 30 trips N34800
N1305 x 20 trips N26100
Total Earinings N60900

Oya, make una start the arguments

Uber has a more rewarding loyalty package %wise than Bolt.

Do you know wat it means to score 30 trips.

I experienced the 3% thing today. Got three trips , #3,500, #1,000 n #2,100 all @ 3% commission. I mean check that out.

I paid less than #200.for a #6600.

Mehn. Whoever gave Uber DT strategy.

brogxy:
Seriously, opay has come to deal with them .

I posited earlier that they were going to take a sizeable chunk of d market.

Right now, opay is still @ its 'teething' phase, hence d disorganised setup as regards deir operations n processes.

D moment dy catch momentum, its going to b war. N dis tym, both drivers and riders will win. As against previous tyms were riders were d only winners.

Opay put some aggressive marketing!

I mean d opay agents were manually recruiting drivers on the street, you needn't go to show urtself or register online.

Dy leveraged on d efforts of deir competitors. I.e if you were alredy on Bolt or Uber, you ( as a driver) were good enof for them. no point in going thru a cumbersome process, just get ur details , pics of d car , registration details n u can com to d office n Voila, u don become Ocar driva.

AngryIgboMan:
Guy what they do is request a trip with Uber or Bolt. But its fake. When you go to pick them up without driving into a compound or you pick them by the roadside, they will swoop on you from where they are hiding. My brother informed me about this. They are using this format to arrest Uber Bolt drivers.

This is a new format and they are cashing out big. Share this in all rooms and forums you belong to. Alert drivers about this please.

Stay Woke!!

Which areas in Lagos and what specific pick up and drop offs points.

Lastma is a big blanket name.

Such activities are done by mishevious elements/operatives in LASTMA itself, and they are in the minority.

So that Lastma can be tagged on twitter n also Bolt.

Trust me, a lot of those requests were done on d Bolt platform.

grandstar:
As much as we love Uber's cheap prices, it is actually very unfair competition.

Uber rides are worryingly cheap and despite that, the drivers are still charged a commission. It doesn't add up.

It only adds up when you take a look look at Uber's balance sheet and see that it makes losses of up to $800m in some quarters. That means it is simply surviving off investors' funds. It has a very high burn rate. I don't see how it can ever be profitable. Taxi drivers, not just in Nigeria but in other parts of the world are not really competing against another taxi operator but against Uber's financier's funds. Taxi rides needs to be priced at a rate they can make money.

I feel at the end of the day, ride-hailing apps should steer clear of running a cab service, but instead act as an intermediary linking taxis with customers and in exchange, receive a commission or earn money from advertising.

My $800m loss is even conservative when you read the article in the link below. It talks about a staggering $5.2bn loss in a quarter

https://www.businessinsider.com/where-uber-spends-its-money-lost-5-billion-second-quarter-2019-8?IR=T

I quite agree with you, the only winners I see here are the riders.
Their fares are ridiculously competitive.
Take Bolt to Air port @ Abuja, Fare is #3,500
20% commission - #700
Gate ticket- # 200- ( I don't know if dis is computed in d tariff)
Fuel- #1,200.
Balance- 1,400. For a distance of about. 42km .
You would have to wait @ d airport to get a return trip WC is dependent on the arrival of flights n d time of d week.

Or else you start picking along back to the city centre which is a risk on it's own.

okomile:

Trekking go sweet!

Trek out of airport vicinity.
Get uber/bolt driver contact. Call before you arrive.

He/she will simply pick you up
Lobatan

In Abuja , Yes. In Lagos, No. Where are you going to trek to from d Lagos terminals

Onlydaughter:
What if the taxify man claims to be your brother, how will they now know??

By seating at the rear right? In Nigeria ! You already blew the cover.

1daboi:
seriously! I do uber most of the time. Each time I do bolt, I notice that 1. They don't call drivers, 2. They keep you waiting for too long, 3. Most of their riders dont give drivers any respect.
Have noticed that whenever a foreigner orders you on uber, they're always standing at their pickup waiting for their driver to arrive. Naija ppl sef

You are right. As per d foreigners,
Let me share my experience this morning.

I brought a guy from lateef jakande on Bolt to Sheraton.
I just decided to chill a bit in deir car park. Put on my Uber app.
Puum. Got a request. I was still saying OK, let me wait till d person is ready

Puuum, msg from app, : " I'm at d reception.

As I drove to the reception the Chinese dudes were already waiting, we no even spend up to 8secs, I was lyk r dese guys machines, sharp- sharp dey don enter sit down.

I think its an inbuilt attitude wt some Nigerian riders,empty and so full of themselves.

On top say I still miss small road for V.I, d Chinese dude still rate me 5 star. Dese r guys DT sleep in Sheraton o, n so down to earth.

brogxy:
This is why I laugh when some people say one app pays higher than others. Same pickup and destination zone gave the same N2,500 that he claimed would have given him above N3k .

Boss, look at it from the angle of time spent, Bolt compensates better if one spends longer time in traffic more dn Uber does.

Take a scenario today,. Picked some Chinese guys from Sheraton to VI. End trip on Uber , cash collected#2,900., 33.56km real fare - 2,177. Time- 1 hr 7mins.

Note: on Bolt, a 33.56km trip will give me nothing less than #3,400-3500


The next trip DT entered Bolt
V.I to Iwaya unilag . Axis. End trip #1,500.
Real fare #1,200. Km -15.5 Time- 30mins.

Juxtapose wt DT of Uber up there, you wud see a difference.

I did a return offline trip back to VI based on the #1,500 tariff given by Bolt.


Remove the shiity nature of d app, their lackadaisical disposition to issues n their reluctance to discipline erring riders

Bolt gives you more value for time spent than Uber.

chillex8:
If you are the Uber driver that tricked me at igboefon to carry your "rejected" rider all the way to isolo, my God will visit you.

If not for her kid, I will have dumped her the moment I realized your folly.

Anyways, 8k in the bag

pls share the story

teddyseun:
It's not only riders that are dubious even some drivers are


I booked a ride on bolt from back of United estate at alagbole ,that's the estate that has it's entrance at the end of the new bridge on Nov 10th.I just added my card before the trip and was given 900 naira discount .
The trip ended and the driver told me it's 2700naira. I did a transfer of 2700 naria to the driver the account he drop is Adedeji olatunji Ibrahim .union bank account ...... about 2 mins after the driver left I remembered it's was a card trip and boost had charge me 1800 naira. I called the driver and he claimed it's a cash trip on his app.

I told him that is a lie that it's a card trip and he should refund the 2700 I transferred to him ,I sent him my account details and since then he refused to pick my calls and he picks if I use a different phone number.

His phone number 09014498140. Name on app Gabriel.

Note that the driver is not the same person in the picture on the app. The drive lives in that estate

Easy case. Report to the operator with details of wat transpired, you will b reimbursed

ofime123:
I did a trip yesterday from lekki to Sheraton ikeja on uber I end trip and app said collect 2500 I just week uber fare is useless I only use uber for destination trip and thank God it was destination trip to mainland. I can never use uber to work full day.

You are right. Ubers fare is kind of low. One day I picked someone from junction from omole phase 1 to mega chicken lateef jakande. Not quite a distance, but a little traffic. End trip uber say collect #400. I'm lyk really. Wt all d pomp n all #400. On taxify its #500. At least

I picked rider from unilag guest house to obalende, end trip, uber said collect around #885 or so.

On bolt, long trips r quite a delight cos u earn roughly 82-83 naira net per km on bolt.

Ikeja/ogba/agege to VI always ends around #3100-3300 on bolt in d morning.


However, dy drop ur ratings any how on bolt.
How can you drop my ratings for not picking another client, for Gods sake, I HV not dropped off the current rider. She asked to park was buying something getting close to her destination

Before I know rating don drop by 0.05.

But uber has a fair rating system

Sopcla:
Well you are right to some extent cos we all have different appetite, Dangote is still working hard as if he has nothing, whereas some have very little and already feeling relaxed, some active bricklayers are landlords if you don’t know

A lot of trucks bearing the " Dangote" insignia do not belong to the Dangote group.
Its a branding strategy, the truck operators are assured of of minimum downtime on their equipment all year round.and prompt dispatch contracts all year round.

Bricklayers run a service /sell their expertise. Its quite different from lease operators.

You should know better if you r truly a e- driver.
If you had 4 cars on e hailing , wud you go for a hire- purchase.to expand ur fleet?

Good luck to you and the company

donfortune48:
The fight with Ocar have officially began.

Bolt is feeling the heat. There is no company that abruptly changes strategy.

Without your tools ( drivers), you are just a company with a software.

I told the ocar guy who was manually recruiting drivers where they parked.

The secret to bump into a market highly dominated by giants is simple.

Get the drivers ( their tools). Of course you won't forget riders, but pay more attention to the tools.

Of recent, you can see surges displaying even in the most unexpected places on bolt.

Sopcla:
Do your maths well, higher purchase of 2.5M for a tokunbo car valued at 1.9M is 30% profit, and that’s in 18 months, the minimum interest bank will give you on loan at 15% in 1 year and that implies 22.5% in 18 months

which maths r we talking here?

This is arithmetic!

First , guys DT sell corrola @ 1.9m still make decent profit.

Is d landing cost 1.9m? No, I don't think so, so y r you posting 30% ROI.

Not here to burst your bubble.

In BTW: I hope d funds used to purchase cars r also not borrowed, cos e - hailing biz is not predictable, Even Bolt n Uber are aware that dis December, The Chinese are going to have a fair slice of their profit's.

Sopcla:
That’s not slavery, automatically doesn’t mean it’s compulsory, it’s only for those that want to expand, some Uber drivers have 4 cars if you don’t know, you might see it as slavery while some will see it as expansion

Any uber driver that has 4 cars on the platform will never go for hire purchase.