₦airaland Forum

We keep hearing that Shiites are bad, Shiites are terrorists, Shiites are violent, Shiites are related to Iran etc etc. But if we trace back Nigeria's history, there has never been any single case of Shiites causing any trouble or disturbing the peace for anyone any where. Every single case of terrorism or religious related violence we've had at least in the last 30 years were perpetrated mainly by Sunnis or Sunni based groups.

Yet these people somehow want us to believe that Shiites are the dangerous people we should be worried about?... These people want us to believe it is right and sensible to proscribe Shiites even whilst they desperately protect, defend and pamper herdsmen who have murdered (and are still murdering) over 10000 innocent Nigerians?

How can companies meant to produce and sell some of the most valuable products in the country continue swimming in losses?

What exactly is wrong with the black man? Why exactly are these refineries still owned by govt?

grandstar:
Dangote wants an end to fuel importation and at the same time informed the FG that he's going to sell his refined products at the international price hence no preferential treatment to Nigerian consumers.

If government decides to deregulate (which I doubt), then government should allow importation with a low tariffs because deregulation without competition will lead to him fleecing local consumers as there are no alternatives.

Deregulation should have been carried out long ago as any attempt to deregulate would be seen as government purely trying to serve a billionaire's interest to the detriment of other Nigerians.

That's already a no no.

But that's exactly my point; that thing you called a "no no" is exactly what's going to happen in 2 years.

grandstar:
I'm impressed.

Thank God he is focusing on the product the country has comparative advantage in.

Shame he is still demanding that government bans the importation of refined fuels. That's just plain wrong as he would have monopolistic and risk free profits.

A ban is therefore unnecessary but rather import duty of 5% should suffice.

No need for these rhetorics, Nigerians need to brace up for the worst. When Dangote completes that refinery, NNPC will stop importation of fuel and the govt would fully deregulate the downstream sector. Implication is that Dangote would be a full blown monopoly as the single supplier of 90% of Nigeria's petroleum products, and the Dangote we know will not sell his petrol even for N200.

Dangote is on the verge of holding Nigeria by the balls but unfortunately, both the govt and other Nigerian businessmen are all sleeping. When the time comes, the wailing and the bad-belle will be epic.

I shared the very same thoughts when I saw the other thread exposing the so called stolen properties. Any human with half a brain would instantly realised that the things in those containers are definitely abandoned properties meant for disposal. Just imagine the picture of those rugs; I wouldn't even let someone bring those diseased rugs anywhere close to my compound, yet these are the things they could bring up as recovered stolen properties. Why don't they go for money, vehicles etc?

AZeD1:
The Minister said for every aircraft.......

I am not arguing about the indirect jobs but the direct jobs as claimed by the minister.

The man is a former commercial pilot and also served as the minister overseeing the entire aviation ministry. I believe he's in a better position than the both of us to reel out such statistics.

Mustsucceed:
The word stupidity is an understatement for you ...do yur homework .pantami is highly intelligent man.. Even PDP knows this go and find out what he did in the parastatal he was heading
He was lecturing outside the country before being invited back ..you think he needs Nigeria 's money .you must be dumb

Ahhh!...

After reading this post, I had to read and re-read the post from @Awol1 which you were responding to several times trying to discern the reason behind your unfortunate vituperations, but I couldn't connect the dots. It then made me realise that more than ever before, we have to take the issues of mental health seriously in this country.

Awol1:
Let me tell you something about Nigerians...

Our only problem is divisive leaders, aside that, we are really not tribalistic.

Look at how every Nigerian has spoken in unison as to the brightness and potentials of this guy. No one cared to know where he's from, we just saw he's good.

It's the same way we saw what Fashola could do, and loved him.

Same way we saw what Nuhu Ribadu could do and loved him.

Same way we saw what Dora Akunyili could do and loved him.

There's hope for Nigeria after all, when all these divisive dinosaurs shall have been dead and gone.
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Are you sure we aren't all tribalist, divisive and just petty at the same time? Everyone applauds this man's intellects in unison here simply because he's only being appointed as a mere minister. If this man had been contesting for a coveted position like the presidency, you will be shocked at how the mood of these comments would have changed.

AZeD1:
Are you saying for every new aircraft Air Peace buys, they employ at least 300 people?

Huh?

I really wasnt expecting this kind of question even if were just for the sake of arguments. Go back and re-read my post and you may also want to read any available articles or economic materials which explain generally how job creation works. Maybe if you will do that, you will probably then understand that when for instance University X is sited at a community and is said to create say 5000 jobs, it doesn't necessarily mean University X directly employed 5000 people.

AZeD1:
How efficient is Arik?
Are those urchins supposed to be there?
How many airlines have died in Nigeria because of mismanagement?

Nobody starts a business to create jobs, people start business to make profits. The jobs created are a side effect.

For a country that spends over 70% of its budget on recurrent expenditure, no government official should be talking of starting a new venture unless it's profitable.

PS: you do know Arik was taken over by AMCON right?
PS: Have you asked yourself why this same minister went to Bahrain just to design a freaking logo? How come he didn't think of jobs it would create in Nigeria?

Do you realise you're actually veering totally off point?... This is what happens when people just speak/nag out of emotions and prejudices.

A quick reminder to what my comment was about... the man said a single aeroplane in the aviation sector can translate to up to 300 jobs and he is totally right about that; end of discussion!


Whether AMCON owns Arik or Arik owns AMCON, or whether the man failed in a attempt to start an airline, or whether urchins should be at airports or not, all that is totally irrelevant to the correctness of his statement that a single aircraft can create employment for up to 300 persons, both directly and indirectly.

Regarding the launch of a national carrier, I read in that statement that the plan is for it to be totally driven by the private sector; and that is a very very good idea whether you agree or not. The previous plan where govt was to have substantial stakes was shelved, that explains the current suspension of the Nigeria Air idea.

Finally you said the essence of business is to make profit, not to create employment. May I remind you that the person being screened was being interviewed for a govt position. Just in case you do not know, or have forgotten, it is the business of government to care about whether people are employed or not.

BuhariIsBURIED:
My friend shut up.. that ekuke dog is that one a justice? in a saner country he won't even smell a common government teacher in a school, CJN that was brought in based on nepotism and you are writing rubb1sh

Based on who's nepotism exactly? You do know he wasnt made CJN by buhari right?

I agree with you though; the entire Nigerian judiciary and the entire NJC must be entirely useless to have promoted an 'ekuke' from the ground up to the level of being the 2nd most senior judge of the entire judiciary.

Fabnaija:
But Buhari has the power to disobey the Court order?

Which court order?... has he been granted bail on the second charge?

aolawale025:
Very funny. Just obey court orders then

Which court orders exactly?

I dont know how the legal system or bail works, but if someone is accused of more than one charge by different authorities in different jurisdictions and he is granted bail on one, does it automatically mean he has been granted bail on the other too?

AZeD1:
“One aeroplane in Nigeria is equal to 300 direct jobs to start with."

Buhari and his clueless people..

The airplane is not made in Nigeria, it would not be serviced in Nigeria, so how would one airplane produce 300 direct jobs?

4Pilots , 10 crew members and let's be generous and give him, another 30 support people, we are still not at 50 so where did he get 300 from?

Arik air as an example has less than 20 functional planes but employs over 1500 direct staff. When you factor in the indirect staff, and the indirect-indirect staff (e.g. those urchins at the airport stand that rush to help you with your bags when you get to airports, the caterers that prepare the snacks you get on flights etc), you will be shocked at the sheer number of mouths that are being fed by the mere existence of Arik air.

Sometimes people ought to exercise restraint in the way they rush to insult people because more often than not, you may just risk sounding more clueless than the people you insult.

somehow:
Please, be very careful and pay attention to details. I said, no one was killed at the Ojota protest, all that you posted, none said there was a casualty there. I never said there was no death elsewhere.

We are talking about the peaceful and organized protest here, not the one people get to vandalize properties, stop others from moving or burning of properties/debris everywhere.

I hope i am clear now?

Lol.. smh.. Such a poor attempt at being clever! If you go back to my last post and read till the very last sentence, I already did mention that you would surely shrink back to your shell with the weak defense that you were referring to just Ojota. Protesters were killed in Lagos, Kano and Kwara, but your argument is that no one was killed at Ojota?

So because no one was killed at Ojota, is that the reason you quoted me originally to challenge my post about trigger happy Nigerian policemen?

somehow:
Nobody was shot in Ojota oga.

Any well-organized protest won't record casualty worldwide, it has nothing to do with Abuja or bubunja.

Why do you sound so much like the Nigerian police with this your bizarre denial? Are you a policemen?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16464922

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jan/09/nigeria-fuel-protests-one-killed

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nigeria-strike/nigerian-fuel-protests-grow-13-killed-in-attacks-idUSTRE8091B120120110

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nigeria-strike/nigeria-fuel-protests-turn-violent-two-killed-idUSTRE8081NM20120109

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2012/01/201213135855591893.html

https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-01-10/nigeria-news-fuel-subsidy-protests-turn-deadly-three-people-killed

https://www.france24.com/en/20120103-lagos-nigeria-end-petrol-subsidy-riots-clashes-police

Within a second in google, about 20 different reports on fatalities across Nigeria during the #OccupyNigeria protests popped up; on last count, it was over 12 fatalities, some of which were in Lagos. I know your next line of argument would probably be, "I meant in Ojota alone"

somehow:
How many people died at Ojota?
How many at all the BBOG protest?

1. BBOG was a very very organised protest, but that doesn't mean they weren't teargassed on several occasions.
2. BBOG was mainly in Abuja where the police are a little bit more civilised than the rest of the country.
3. Again for BBOG, the world was watching with keen interest; it would have been disastrous if the security forces tried the usual madness.



As for Ojota, I remember one person was fatally shot live on camera in the usual Nigerian police tradition (to fulfill righteousness).

delugajackson:
Protests in Nigeria, whether peaceful or violent always end in death. Its the fastest way to meet with your creator.

Its either you're tear-gassed, severely beaten or shot by our trigger-happy Police, pummelled and brutalized by soldiers or killed by stray bullets. As a matter of fact, protesting in Nigeria should be included in 1000 ways to die.

In Nigeria, even if the pritest isnt disruptive, even if the police has been able to overpower and disperse the protesters, they somehow just have a way to still level their rifle to release a live fatal bullet. It's a tradition done just to fulfil all righteousness.

If I say BU, you say RA, another man say TAI, omo na you sabi...

jrusky:
He died rescueing *pig*? What kind of news is this? Is the guy insane?

If you read through that story again, you will realise his death had absolutely no connection with saving the pig; that he died after saving a pig does not automatically mean 'he died because he saved the pig'. The story didnt say he drowned, neither did it say he was crushed or attacked by the pig, so how exactly is everyone linking his death to the pig?

The comments so far on this thread are shockingly myopic.

odiereke:
Village people at work. Helping others is nice but needs serious consideration atimes

sotall:
There is no relationship between saving the pig and then dieing afterwards.


Blame the Nigerian health care system with no facilities to manage emergencies.

His death probably had nothing to do with him helping the swine. This story get k-leg, but the real tragedy of this story is the reasoning faculty of Nigerians, both educated and uneducated.

Reading through this thread and seeing how almost everyone just swallowed the pig logic is depressing; many even call him stupid for saving a pig.

Stingman:
Playback- 20 November 2014.

Buhari, Rotimi Amaechi, John Oyegun and other APC stalwarts in Abuja protesting against the increased insecurity and killings in the country.
They accused Goodluck Jonathan led PDP government of gross incompetence and unprecedented display of impunity.

Nairaland Admin...If we start a protest against insecurity today...Wil we receive the Shiites treatment or will we be allowed to go?

Same way in which PDP politicians who were quiet then are protesting today as activists... #Politics

bkool7:
The govt is really in a delima.
To be a president you must be ready to make highly contentious decisions.
When the govt paid BH heavily and even released some BH prisoners to have some Chibok girls released some people were screaming hell, saying govt is finding BH .
Now , govt has decided not to toll that line again , some people Will still complain.
For me , the govt should just do whatever is humanly possible to protect and rescue any body abducted by these terrorists. They should listen to critics with bad intensions. Some people's job is just to make govt look bad. There's no way to please those set of people.

However, I'll take this story with a pinch of salt for these reasons.
-These terrorists are full of propagandas.
-If they've truly killed her ,they would make a video of it.
-If they kill her they would have lost their bargaining power.

You will be shocked that the very people who criticised the loudest when ransom was paid for release of those girls are actually the loudest chanters today in this thread also criticising the same govt for doing nothing. To many, it's just politics, nothing personal.

destinie2019:
Bode Agusto was.

Wow! The man must have really angered the gods.

nzeobi:
Bode Augusto was rejected in 2007, even amaechi was not cleared in 2015

Amaechi was not cleared in 2015?... Which Amaechi?

Mexyz:
Seems something is wrong with this Lawan
So you just want all of them to take a bow and go, then tomorrow we hear the ministry they are heading is not up and doing.

Has any ministerial nominee ever been rejected by any senate since Nigeria's history?

No single ministerial nominee has ever been rejected by the senate since 1999 till date. So ehy do they even bother with screening?

...and for those shouting Saraki senate Saraki senate, was any ministerial candidate ever rejected by Saraki senate?

OlujobaSamuel:
Op, abegi, I love his nomination as he tried in infrastructure, but biko he should not be placed close to any thing called education.
He can be made work minister or labour, it's not easy to owe workers and still get them to support you in an election.

You wicked man...

Anegbettedude:
hahahah very correct my governor ..... osho wont like this oo

You think Oshiomole himself will permit Ruga if he were governor?

Hehehe... The UK Trump

Same ol same old folks... All politicians!