₦airaland Forum

I struggle to see how the appointment of GEJ has anything to do with ridiculing anyone.

isthatso:
Forget new York, let us compare ourselves to our fellow African countries

http://www.oecd.org/tax/tax-policy/brochure-revenue-statistics-africa.pdf


tax to gdp ratio: ordinary Ghana achieves 17%, south Africa is 28%, common Togo is 22%, Nigeria I think is about 5% if we can just get to 10%, that alone is an extra $20-25B extra a year.

imagine what $20B extra a year (achieving just 10% tax to GDP) can do


in just 4 years, $20B extra a year ($80B in total) will complete our train netwrok, our main roads, and add add 20,000mw to the grid with money to spare for other projects. and we still have $20B extra for health and education, imp[roved salaries, police remuineration etc in subsequent years

The real problem with Nigeria is if we achieve up to that 10%, it will only reflect in more private jets at our airports, more yachts and longer convoys.

Omashola and his team should be allowed to inspect the Bet9ja server to confirm this.

Chaii... see people's fathers.

9jabull:
Those claiming is fake should give us thier own correct no of toll gate in each zone.
Its not enough saying is fake with out back up.

People tend to just believe whatever suits their bias, regardless of how irrational the info appears to be. Are there even up to 50 federal roads in the entire south east?.... Is it any poo you read that you just swallow?

Another dumb propaganda from the stables of IPOB to hurt the emotions and incite gullible Igbos. I'm sure this must be all over whatsapp groups and facebook broadcasts by now.

Are there even up to 56 federal roads in the entire south east?

Are there even up to 56 major federal roads in the south east? How can 56 toll gates be only in the south east? Where did this info even come from?

The way some folks desperately turn everything to a stupid inter-tribal dick measuring contest is truly disturbing. Is there still any hope for Nigeria's future with the youths reasoning like this?

Did Sowore at any time ever claim he was fighting for any particular tribe? Even while the majority of the Yoruba elite, moneybags and masses are still supporting the current political dispensation, how and when exactly did Sowore's revolution metamorphose into a 'Yoruba campaign'?

Tonytonic:
point of correction Buhari's election did not anger Igbos because Igbos don't care who is the president. all they care about is how to make more money from their business and how to increase prices of goods and services to make gain.the only time Igbos will complain abt govt is when u make policies that affect their business.u should understand how the Igbo people reason. They pretend to care but for real they don't give a shit.as along as business is fine.dont be deceived

Sorry sir for my earlier false claim. The election of Buhari in 2015 actually excited Igbos more than any other ethnic group in Nigeria. Thanks!

Tonytonic:
U r funny sneaked in how is that possible? with our sharp DSS.

Under OBJ and GEJ, Sowore has always been a thorn in the flesh of every government. The only way he's managed to evade arrest is because he has stayed away in exile since 1999.

Nigeria has a very porous border, even an elephant cant be smuggled in and out of the country through cotonou.

engrchykae:
but there is picture of buhari and elrufai meeting with el zakzaky prior to the 2015 election.
implying that while Jonathan was clamping down on the movement,the opposition were romancing with the enemy of state.
anyway,a war against boko is a war against the north.

What exactly is your point sir?... You're losing me here

You claimed bokoharam started in 2003 but OBJ ignored them (a baseless claim which i couldnt even fathom its essence). I disproved that.

You made another false claim that IMN was never disturbed or attacked by previous administrations, I proved that again to be anothed false claim.

You claimed only the current admin has gone after the media lawlessly, I puntured that baseless claim again.

And now here you are, saying Buhari and Elrfuai met with IMN leader, please kindly help me out here, what exactly is the point you're trying to make?... Are you just struggling to create an argument?

engrchykae:
boko started in 2003 but obasanjo decided to look the other way.
just like buhari met imn and chose to face them head on.
on your claims on clampdown on media during gej's time,every one knew that gej was the most abused president in the history of Nigeria.
people peddle lies how 20 billion were missing and today these same people move money on helicopter in the name of tradermoni and in bullion van in the name of God knows what.

Like I said, bokoharam was never a threat to public order, not until 2009 when they started taking arms and attacking police stations. So please tell me, why should a peaceful, insignificant, impactless group which posed no security threat to the public be a source of concern to any president at the time?

Regarding IMN, they have been labelled a security threat well before 2015 and YES, even under GEJ, they were clamped down, arrested and murdered extrajudicially by security forces in 2013/2014. In 2014, Elzakzazi's sons were murdered by soldiers who attacked their home to clamp down on the group. So please go enlighten yourself before you come online to make baseless claims.

About GEJ being the most abused president, by all factual standards, Buhari the 'dullard' has since overtaken that record. Tell me one lie against GEJ that also hasnt been peddled against the current govt? And yes, Buhari's regime may clearly be intolerant to criticism, but even the so called gentle GEJ's regime also lawlessly clamped down on dissident media houses on several occasions, there are numerous cases on that within a google search away, go figure! That people are more informed (thanks to social media and cheaper internet) and louder in their criticism of govt today, that doesnt mean the nonsense we see today started today.

Just like I said before, a lot of you were only 'born' and started paying attention to Nigerian news only post-2015; so its no surprise you dont know any of the above.

yaki84:
N u think nnamdi kanu did not sneaked in too?
Bobo nothing like sneaked in, if they wanted him then, they would hv gotten him.
No be only sneak na sneakers

Nnamdi was not a problem to govt until 2015 so he didnt need to hide; he was a totally unknown figure until 2015 when Buhari won the election and angered Igbos.

However, Nnamdi's more popular predecessors pre-2015 like Uwazuruike of MASSOB and Onwuka of Biafra Zionist movement, go and ask what happened to them under OBJ and GEJ.

engrchykae:
i disagree with you,obj have a way of denying some kind of people the attention they crave.
boko haram craved for attention under obj but he snubbed them,but if obj decides to respond to you,its only God that will save you.
gej on his part wont touch you or reply you,the likes of ruben abati and doyin okupe will gladly take you to the cleaners on gej's behalf.

Bokoharam started becoming 'bokoharam' in 2009. They may have existed as a little harmless sect or prayer group prior to 2009, but it was in July 2009 that they perpetrated their first act of public disorder. So I'm not sure I understand where you got your OBJ link from; how do people just manufacture baseless stories and logic from thin air?

Meanwhile regarding GEJ, so many of you making these comments here were either just unaware of political happenings prior to 2015, or you just chose to develop amnesia. I dont need to start digging through Google to bring up cases of arrests and clampdown of media houses.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2013-04-09/nigerian-journalists-detained-after-story-president-goodluck-jonathan

Mandeyy:
You're just a liar! Jonathan never wanted to arrest him because he believed in rule of law. Sowore came to Nigeria for the protest. In fact, he flew to Nigeria always then. He didn't sneak in.

No I'm not a liar, rather you're being either a child, suffering from intentional amnesia, or you just weren't aware of political happenings in Nigeria prior to 2015 (your kind are plenty on this forum these days).

By the way please provide any evidence you can of Sowore stepping into Nigeria for any protest between 1999 and 2015. It's repulsive when people just cook up baseless statements from thin air simply because they want to force an argument.

Meanwhile, I dont even need to search to dig up stories like this; unfortunately like I said, a lot of people commenting on Nairaland these days were only 'born' in 2015.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2013-04-09/nigerian-journalists-detained-after-story-president-goodluck-jonathan

Angelfrost:
That was when tolerant leaders held sway... Welcome to the Next Level.

No such thing as 'tolerant leaders' in Nigeria. The only reason Sowore wasn't arrested under OBJ and GEJ was because he never stepped foot in Nigeria then, and when he did, he only sneaked in and sneaked out through Cotonou.

PassingShot:
I talk am.

If PDP had won, it would be "victory for democracy. Judiciary is the last hope of common man, and bla bla bla"

Tambuwal just won a few minutes ago and it was 'victory for democracy'.

The so called Cameroonian pastor may have asked a pointless question, but Apst Suleman's response was unnecessary and unbecoming of a public figure (most especially a religious leader). Some people shouldn't be allowed to personally handle their social media pages; I'm sure he would delete that tweet before the morning.

Dagger111:
No o, it's now approximately 2k

Is that the official price or just the blackmarket agbero price? Because we all know how these things always work upside down in Nigeria.

vinceobe:
That is one of the quintessential GEJ/PDP projects. All hail GEJ/PDP for the foresight to construction the rail between Abuja and Kaduna! See how useful it is now both monetary wise and ferrying passengers. Learnt it has been hijacked by the novae rich. Poor passengers the train is meant for has been dislodged.

Where do people even get this impression from that trains are meant for the poor? Could this idea be from places like India and Bangladesh where we see pictures of overcrowded dirty trains with people sitting on the roof?

Trains are faster, safer, more secure, more comfortable and more luxurious. In every developed country I've been to, train fares are well more expensive than buses; in the UK for instance, train fares are even more expensive than flights on several routes. So why exactly do many people just harbour this idea that trains should be cheaper than road for passenger transport?

Dagger111:
I work with the Chinese company in charge of the train station at Rigasa, I can vividly tell u that they are making 5x of that money he mentioned. Train comes from abuja to Kaduna 3 - 4x a day, same as the one going from Kaduna to Abuja. Each train is said to convey minimum of 500 passengers, lets assume the transport fee is 2500 (remember VIP is almost 5k). Means 500passenger x 2500naira fee = 1, 250, 000 for a journey and 6 - 8 journey occur a day both to and fro. That is, 1, 250, 000 x 6 = 7, 500, 000 for a day. Now for a month, means 7, 500, 000 x 30/31 days = 225, 000, 000/232, 500, 000 per month. U can calculate yourself and tell me if am wrong pls.

Is the fare N2500? I remember the fare announced was somewhere between N600 - N900 when that route was launched.

Debaiz:
The kaduna highway kidnap has the hand of government in it and I’m in support. The train service was built with massive loan and without patronage, Nigeria can’t pay back the loan.


It’s a welcome development but the money is still small.

That’s about N1.2b a year. About N15b in 12years while we took a loan of about N183b.

That line is not economically viable.

Assuming the N100m/month is NET PROFIT, it would take over 100 years for it to payback the loan. But we all know the N100m can't be profit, I'd be shocked if the operational and maintenance costs dont swallow the entire N100m. The rail just appears to be another govt liability for which operational and maintenance and loan repaynent cost would still have to be taken from oil revenue.

Operational and maintenance cost will run over N200 million per month and at the current rate, there is zero chance that the revenue from the rail can repay its $500m loan in even 500 years. So what exactly is there to celebrate about another massive government liability?

ednut1:
idiots who never resigned now telling another man to. Osunbade should start using silent treatment on these ex looters. apc and pdp are kuku same

The silent treatment Buhari gives to these people has finally hit them where it hurt most, especially since the tribunal episode dawned on them. One doesnt need to look too far to see why they now all remembered Osinbajo in their dreams.

BrainnewsNg:
See His Tweet Below;

Read More At; https://www.brainnewsradio.com/resign-clear-your-name-and-make-history-ex-minister-tells-vp-osinbajo/

Clowns everywhere.... I guess this is also how they advised GEJ and some other PDP bigshots embroiled in corruption allegations to resign.

Dem dey count meat for pot, kpomo follow dey raise hand. Concerned citizens are questioning the integrity of leaders, PDP miscreants are also talking of integrity and giving advice.

gaetano:
Go to Twitter and read the thread that was sparked debate on April. https://twitter.com/NkirukaNistoran/status/1123112038614601729?s=19

But due to the envy and injustice against Eastern Nigeria NAHCO & AVIATION are charging ETHIOPIAN AIRLINE more tax in ENUGU than Lagos, Abuja, Kaduna and Kano. Now, the flight ticket from
ENUGU to GUANGZHOU (CHINA) N350,000
Lagos to GUANGZHOU N280,000
Abuja to GUANGZHOU N280,000

We see all sorts of broadcast messages of this kind on whatsapp, facebook etc, driven purely by victim mentality, paranoia, tribal mistrust and dubious politics. But the big question is, how many of these are true and how many are just baseless propaganda?

When I asked if you can substantiate this, I expected you would provide any evidence whatsoever suggesting that the Nigerian government was indeed charging higher charges for international flights landing at Enugu as claimed; I wasn't expecting some twitter or whatsapp broadcast message by faceless people as you have provided.

For starters, everyone who flies knows that the cost of flight tickets typically vary based on demand and supply; reason why if you purchase tickets earlier when there are still many available seats, you get a lower fare. So it's not exactly clear how the authors of the above message arrived at what almost looks like fixed prices for flights to China. This very message was broadcast sometime earlier this year and Ethiopian Airline officials came up and debunked the story, but I'm not surprised the same message is still being spread.

https://www.pressreader.com/nigeria/thisday/20190503/282166472608274

gaetano:
stop saying trash. It's all political. These ports were fully functional before the Civil War. This is the same thing the fg is doing to the Eastern airports. Ethiopian airlines is been charged higher to operate from the akanu abiam Airport than Lagos and Abuja instead of keeping a flat rate and that has affected the ticket fee in return. Yet again, once it's time for Christmas celebration the fg will once more remember that there's a fault that needs to be resolved on the runway and shots it down so easterners coming from abroad will use other airports. IT'S ALL ECONOMIC SABOTAGE.

Can you really substantiate this claim (in bold)?

badcompany:
Read your post again because you just sound dumb. Do you advice the easterners to transport their goods through a waterway tha aint secured? Whose resposibility is to secure the waterways? Dont you think it was deliberately left unsecured for a reason? THINK B4 U WRITE.

Who is responsible for the insecurity in the eastern ports?... Is it westerners or northerners or government?

RZArecta2:
Excuses excuses, Ibaka deep sea Port idea was completely abandoned simply because they’re a 5% state meanwhile there’s no need to dredge the channel there. Lagos on the other hand is pushing for two more seaports at Lekki and Badagry. It’s a simple fact that anything that’ll develop the SE and SS is being completely avoided by the demonic imbeciles in Aso Rock

The Ibaka deep seaport is a state govt initiative. The proposed Badagry and Lekki Ports are also state govt initiatives!

Do you mean to say the Akwa-Ibom state government also applied 5% rule to marginalise itself and its people by abandoning the Ibaka deep sea port?.... Do you mean to say the Lagos state government is applying 5% rule by refusing to use Lagos state funds to build a deep seaport in the eastern coast?. What exactly does this have to do with the 'imbeciles' in Aso Rock? What exactly do we call this type of reasoning? How could a people just sit back and allow victim mentality and mental slavery destroy their minds?

You're welcome to come and insult me!

This actually defines us!

Atiku is cuming, Atiku is cumming!! Atiku is cumming!

Buhari waec! Buhari waec! Buhari waec!

Now it's....
Osinbajo is houseboy, Osinbajo is commissioner, Osinbajo is under cabal, Osinbajo is thief, Osinbajo, Osinbajo, Osinbajo!!!

Dpharisee:
Northern Governors don't spend their money fixing roads because the FG gives a lot of attention to them, it's roads in the South that are left to collapse making the people to suffer

Can you substantiate this claim that the FG is carrying out more CAPITAL projects in the north than the south? It's not enough to just repeat a 'popular opinion' over and over again because that popular opinion can sometimes be false.

In my opinion I think it is richer states that spend state funds in fixing federal road; biggest culprits are Lagos, RIvers and Delta.