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9jaRealist:
Sophistry...

Your Dbanj analogy is a poor one...
Because Burna seeks the OPPOSITE of Dbanj's aim.
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Now you can go back a re-re-read that my first comment which you quoted. This time, read it very very slowly; read it with a clear and unbiased mindset, maybe you can even try reading it just when you wake up in the morning with a fresh head. And maybe just maybe, you will finally realise that you've been misreading my very simple comment.

Like Insaid before, God don catch you... But you shouldn't be embarrassed, we all overlook or misread things sometimes too. No one is above mistakes.

9jaRealist:
"Lazy yoots"

First, bother to read...
Then, try to understand...
Before you comment.

Thanks.


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Lol... When you point a finger at people, remember you have 4 fingers pointing back at you. On this one, God don catch you!

You're actually the yoot with the lazy brain for not reading my comment properly before diving to include me in your list. Now go back and re-read what I wrote, try and read it slowly this time.

israelmao:
My point of reference to Nigerian current economic status and comparison with the previous status was only to make it crystal clear that Nigeria has lost her pride not only economically but in other spectra and I never mentioned the measuring standard or yardstick for invitation.The fact is,who among the superpower nations or G-7 members feels comfortable or proud to invite Buhari with all the current happenings in Nigeria ,a president who chooses court orders to obey?Why has he not got a single invitation since he assumed power?Jonathan was invited while he was in government even though his trip was short-lived due to ailment and other matters.Nigeria has completely lost her pride in the league of nations under this government it is not a matter of inferiority complex except you have lost synch or touch with the present realities.

What do you mean by saying "GEJ was invited for G7 summit and Buhari has never been invited"? Since when did invitation for G7 summit automatically become a yardstick for measuring progress?.. What kind of dead self-esteem / slave mentality logic is this?

Meanwhile your bizarre logic was even built on a ignorant/false premise because Nigeria was actually invited for G7 summit in 2015 and 2017. If you had bothered to read my last comment before rushing to reply it (typical black man trait), you should have noted where I mentioned that Nigeria was invited in 2015 and 2017. Or probably, GEJ was Nigeria's president in June 2015 and in 2017 right?

Dude doesnt want to repeat the D'Banj mistake.

Logobenz3:
True Bro,true I swear.
Full truck of these was meant for that Austrheim.This would have been the end for Logobenz I swear.
But as fate will have it,I narrowly escaped!
It's not how.much a man plans that makes him succeed but at times luck and destiny(akaraka) follows too.
No mock anybody for street,you no smart or wise or sharp pass them.
Some people planned and worked too but e no just enter!

Wow! I celebrate your deliverance with you bro! May this kind of calamity never locate us.

israelmao:
It must be those imbeciles and sobblers who reply to comments without deep thoughts and those who dabble into discourse without applying discretion or wisdom..Even if Nigeria is not part of it, have you taken time to think deeply why Kenyan and South African presidents were invited without the one that calls herself giant of Africa. Not long ago Nigeria was rubbing shoulders with South Africa in term of economic growth and development but where is she(Nigeria) today?

Your comment above reeks of inferiority complex.... Take a good look at some of the countries invited to some recent G7 meetings...
2015 - Nigeria, Ethiopia, Senegal, Liberia, Tunisia etc.
2016 - Chad, Bangladesh, Papua New Guinea and Sri Lanka etc.
2017 - Nigeria, Kenya, Niger, Guinea and Tunisia etc
2018 - Norway, Bangladesh, Kenya, Senegal, Haiti etc.
2019 - Burkina Faso, Chile, Senegal, SA, Rwanda, Australia, Spain

Just in case you've forgotten, your country isn't an economic giant, not anywhere close. But even at that, the big boys only invite whoever it pleases them to invite to their fraternity meetings. Power, greatness or economic progress has never been the criteria used by G7 or G8 or G20 when inviting non-members to their summits. There are many economically powerful and prosperous countries around the world who weren't invited to this meeting, who never get invited, and who don't even care if such a group as the G7 even exists. Like i said before, your above comment stinks of low self esteem and inferiority complex...

KidsNEXTdoor:


There is no disagreement anywhere

APc will field Tinubu and El rufai... A Muslim Muslim ticket...

PDP like we all know has already zoned their presidency to the north ...

Maybe a Tambuwal wike... Kwankwaso who knows

When I read comments like this, it just weakens my bones. Nigeria has the likes of Prof Moghalu, Akin Adesina, prof Osinbajo, NOI, Peter Obi etc. But whenever elections are discussed, the only feasible names that keep popping up are Atiku, Kwankwaso, Tambuwal, Wike, Tinubu, El Rufai etc. Kaiii... Nigeria is just doomed for failure.

israelmao:
I am sorry to tell you that the host president is in the ongoing G-7 meeting of which Buhari was not invited.

Nigeria isn't a part of the G7, Nigeria wouldn't even be a part of the G100 if anything like that is formed today. So what exactly does it matter whether Nigeria is invited for G7 meeting or not?

The kind of comments on this forum in recent times, I wonder whether the people writing these things are just kids (or probably autistic adults)?

israelmao:
Received without the host president.My heart bleeds for Mr.Lifeless.

Lol.. since when did host presidents start receiving visiting presidents at airport? Especially during conferences where sevetsl presidents ate probably attending?

The comments on this thread though...

MikeBetty:
He Should Forget Film Trick Of Jet Li Or Van Dam. You Will Not Go With Escort And Can Not Carry Arm. Away Nobi Naija Where You Parade Security. Learn Marshall Art Welloooo.

If Ekweremmadu went to that event in Germany with just 2 unarmed bodyguards, not a single person would have been able to get close to him. If anyone tried getting close, bones wouod have been smashed and there would be no case to answer. Ekweremmadu's attack was only possible because he never hexperred it.

niaralandtopuser:
Idiot I didn't say generation was 9000+ . The link I showed you talked about available capacity. I said generation was 6k under Gej and I back it up with a link from premiumtimes .


GW MW ? I know you must feel like a genius to finally figure out what no one else know about GW and MW?


Anyone with a working brain can actually figure out that the writer was actually talking about MW as no country in Africa generate 9000+GW of electricity.
Like an idiot that you are, you choose to focus on the writer's mistakes because your brain could not come up with any reasonable thing to counter my claim that power was at it highest in 2015

Lol... the way you keep stubbornly repeating the same erroneous argument over and over again, one would wonder what exactly you're trying to achieve. Is it that you're just so desperate to win a nonexistent argument argument or what that you're so willing to keep disgracing yourself?

You said power supply capacity hit 9900mw and you posted a news link to support your claim. When I corrected you by saying you had made a mistake, instead of you to humbly accept your error and move on like decent humans do, you have rather spent a whole day insulting me and arguing that the author of the report you posted made a mistake.. wow! The audacity of your ignorance is thrilling!

Once more, let me be gracious again to draw to your attention that the writer was referring to GWh, not GW nor MW; the author of the report did not make any mistake when he said GWh.... Gigawatt-Hour isnt the same thing as Gigawatts and neither was the writer referring to MW as you claim...

niaralandtopuser:
You stupidly keep repeating the same statement that power has not improved since 1999.
Maybe you need to learn more before throwing about insult. I didn't know people could be this. Stupid
https://africacheck.org/reports/nigeria-does-generate-more-electricity-now-than-it-did-15-years-ago/

In 1999, power generation fluctuated between 2000 to 4000mw. In 2019, actual power still fluctuates between averaged of 2000 and 4000mw regardless of all the extra power stations and infrastructural improvements to the system. You have evidence in the report on this thread which just stated that power dropped to less than 3000mw today in 2019, despite all the so called improvements.

It doesn't take more than the common sense of even a child to understand the meaning of my statement that despite all the so called improvement works to infrastructure, Nigeria's power generation hasnt really improved since 1999.

niaralandtopuser:
you must an idiot. who said I don't know what GW and MW mean? you stupidly ignored where the writer said power was at it highest in 2015 to focus on the GW and the MW.
we are actually arguing whether power was at it
highest in 2015 and all you could focus on is the GW and MW

You claimed power generation hit a peak of over 6000mw under GEJ and I spent an entire day trying to explain to you that there's a difference between generating capscity and actual generation.
After all my attempts at trying to educate you on the difference, the best response your brain could churn out was that the actual generation under GEJ actually hit over 9000mw. And then when I gracefully gave you the benefit of a doubt assuming you just made a typo. But you returned to amplify your ignorance by posting a weblink which stated 9000GW-h. Once again I accommodated your petty ignorance by explaining to you that there's a difference between GW-h and MW or GW, what a sensible human would have simply done was to acknowledge your error and either shut the f up or just thank me, you still returned with insults amidst your compulsive ignorance. You are indeed a pathetically helpless case.

niaralandtopuser:
[s]obailala here is the electricity that you claim buhari improved[/s]

Oga when I said something was probably wrong with your brain yesterday, I felt bad thinking I was being unnecessarily harsh on someone who was either just carried away or probably just drunk from the weekend. But now, its a Monday morning, and you're still exhibiting the same delusional symptoms. So I was probably right about you all along.

I repeated it at least 10 times yesterday that power has never improved in Nigeria since 1999 till date, and that average generation has always fluctuated between 2000 and 4000mw; I kept louding the same message in your head just to point out to you that the 6000mw or sorry, 9000mw which you kept claiming that GEJ gave Nigerian was an ignorant beer parlour gist. But somehow, it seemed I overestimated your sanity. Even a stark lunatic who know how to read and write would have picked up my message after I had to repeat the same thing over and over. But here I wake up to this sort of foolish comment from you?

Kindly redeem your sanity by pointing out a single sentence where Obailala ever mentioned or implied the nonsense you just wrote up there (i.e. power improving under anybody). We truly meet all sorts of imbalanced humans online. Please if you cannot read, or if you suffer any kind of illness that disorients your brain
and prevents you from understanding English, kindly tell us in advance so we know and avoid you. Have a nice day, bye!

niaralandtopuser:
it was still clear that we had the highest in 2015 but you choose to focus on the writer mistakes. it only takes a few seconds to figure out that the writer was talking about MW. even South Africa don't generate 9000+GW of electricity

You're truly a sorry case. So after I told you there's a difference between GW-h and MW or GW, you still couldnt comprehend that but have come back to call it writer mistake?...

Oboy who do you this thing?.... Your village people must be very wicked... I remember you asked me yestrday to use google, but are you so illiterate that you cannot use that same google to quickly check the difference between GW-h and GW or MW but instead you keep coming back online to disgrace your education? Pardon my harsh words but this you compulsive learning disorder has now got me pissed.

CeterisXVII:
Oga, the problem is that IKEDC will deprive another community of power supply, (irrespective of whether such residents have paid in full or not, or whether they have pre-paid metres or not) in order to ensure that the Magodo estate that has paid a premium for electricity supply, gets power.

IKEDC is not increasing the amount of power it distributes, it is just rationing and rerouting it.

Eko Disco pulled this same scam with Mayfair Estate residents in Lekki at one time. They promised them a "priority or dedicated line," provided they were willing to agree to a new tariff that was much higher than the approved one. The estate association agreed.

Power supply was constant for a few months. There was even one large transformer/mini sub station close to the estate, which had been installed by the old NEPA office in that district. It made everyone happy.

A few months down the road, erratic power supply resurrected it's ugly face. Power cuts became common. When the residents complained, Eko Disco or EKEDC said they were working on it. That was when the estate discovered they had been scammed. The tariff was not reviewed downwards, neither were the residents given any relief. Na who come be mumu?

I give Magodo and IKEDC another couple of months, before this scheme unravels. Let Magodo residents come back here in another 9 months to share their experience. You will see the kind of lamentations that will be dropping from their mouths.....

Lol.. the typical scam never ends.

niaralandtopuser:
https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/nigeria/electricity-production

Hehehe.. bro, Gigawatt-Hour (GWh) isn't the same thing as Megawatt (MW).

niaralandtopuser:
We had an all-time high of 9936mw in 2015.
Goodluck was talking about actual generation not available capacity

Huh? 9936mw?... you mean 6636mw?... Both figures are false though, we've never had up to even 5500mw.

niaralandtopuser:
I provided a link where it was said power was 6k+

'Available Capacity' not 'Actual Generation'. They aren't the same thing.

Meanwhile the available capacity as at 2019 Feb is now over 7600mw. You can read this report below.

The system operator put the nation’s installed generation capacity at 12,910.40MW; available capacity at 7,652.60MW; transmission wheeling capacity at 8,100MW; and the peak generation ever attained at 5,375MW.

https://punchng.com/power-generation-loses-1108mw-drops-to-3456mw/

niaralandtopuser:
I don't think we ever had zero under Gej.

my point is that buhari never improved on what Gej left but Gej actually improved on what he met on ground

You see what I keep saying, you're just hell bent on driving a pilitical argument here, albeit with just conjectures. Quit trying to go political here, power sector performance is the last area anyone should ever attempt to use for politics. There has never been a year when a total grid collapse has not happened since 1999 till date. In previous years, there wasnt a sharp political divide in Nigeria along the apc vs pdp lines, so there was never a need for the news on grid collapses to be amplified as political points.

niaralandtopuser:
I didn't argue that. I only had problem when you said power was 1000+ under Gej.

I repeatedly pointed out that power had always fluctuated between a range of 2k-4k megawatts, and that has always been the case since 1999 to date. Sometimes it falls below, sometimes it rises above, I only mentioned the drop to 1000+ because you were hell-bent on painting a utopian picture even first claiming that power was hitting peaks of 6000mw under GEJ and then now around 3000mw currently. That was a bizarre misconception which I believe was purely driven by political sentiments.

Oga power supply is the last thing anyone should ever try to use to argue politics cos power supply since I was born has always been shiit in Nigeria.

Historic data on daily power generation figuted can be viewed on this NESO site.
https://www.nsong.org/Library.aspx

niaralandtopuser:
your link only talks about brief moment when power came down due to strike and shutdown. it was never the true situation of power.
if we had to use same logic , then there was a time power was 0mw under buhari
https://punchng.com/power-generation-crumbles-to-0mw-for-several-hours/

But do you now understand the meaning of the word 'average'?.... I said average power has always fluctuated between 2000 and 4000mw since 1999. Of course there were times it peaked over 5000mw and times it fell to 1000mw and even zero, but average has always been between 2k and 4k.

niaralandtopuser:
look at the idiot who claims power was 1000+ when Gej handed over to buhari but can't seem to prove it.

the man said he performed poorly but here you are defending him
https://punchng.com/my-govts-performance-in-power-supply-not-good-enough-buhari/

Hahaha... Me?Idiot?.. Lord av merci!

I posted a news weblink every single time I mentioned that power dropped to 1327mw before handover in 2015, but of course you are so engrossed in your delusion to even bother opening the links I posted... and now you have the audacity to call me an idiot all for your own intellectual laziness?... Kaiii! ... In all honesty, who do you really think is the idiot between us both?

Obviously you're one of those people on this forum who think every discussion must be about a Buhari vs Gej or apc vs pdp matter; and of course whenever they remotely think or assume an argument might be steered in that direction, common sense instantly flies out the window.

I told you average power in Nigeria has always fluctuated between of 2000mw and 4000mw since 1999 to date, and whilst you argued blindly that the power sector was utopian (even up to 6000mw ) under GEJ, I pointed out with verifiable reference that power generation even fell to as low as 1327mw a week before May 29th 2015 when GEJ left.

But of course I must truly have been an idiot expecting an individual with your brain capacity to even bother reading or comprehending the link I posted; an individual who still hasnt been able to comprehend the difference between 'generating capacity' and 'actual generated power' is who I want to read a report which has more than 2 paragraphs?

I will say goodbye by posting these link once again, not necessary for you (cos you obviously still wouldn't comprehend it), I will post this here only for other members of this forum to behold your ignorance.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/183496-nigerias-power-generation-at-all-time-low-crashes-to-1327mw.html

Historic data on daily power generation can be viewed on this NESO site.
https://www.nsong.org/Library.aspx
www.nairaland.com/attachments/5381093_powergen_jpeg1c9f6029b22df1fe842d7c86b55cae51

Iamgrey5:
You are obviously slow

There's difference between installed capacity and generating capacity.

Whilst generating capacity can fluctuate, installed capacity can only increase

Jonathan exaggerated the installled capacity during his tenure because it was never more than 5000+ at best which I clearly stated earlier.

Lol... I think that guy is a child.

niaralandtopuser:
lies from fashola and osibade
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/327200-nigerias-generated-electricity-drops-further-to-2919mw.html

what we have now is even less than 3000mw.
Jonathan improved what he met on ground while buhari reduced what Jonathan left for him.

niaralandtopuser:
lies! there was never a time when power was that low under Gej.

did Gej not improved what was on ground? what has buhari added to what he met on ground?


here is buhari admitting that he performed poorly in the power sector
https://punchng.com/my-govts-performance-in-power-supply-not-good-enough-buhari/

If you aren't a child, then I would be shocked. So maybe I should break it down for you as a minor.

Do you know the meaning of the word 'average'?

Do you understand what it means when someone says something "fluctuates between 2000 and 4000mw"?

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/183496-nigerias-power-generation-at-all-time-low-crashes-to-1327mw.html

The link above shows that power generation even on the week GEJ left office was less than 2000mw. Do you still undersatand the meaning of the word 'average' especially when I repeatedly say the power generation averages between 2000-4000mw?

niaralandtopuser:
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/327200-nigerias-generated-electricity-drops-further-to-2919mw.html
We are running on below 3000 now. Jonathan improved on what he met on ground but buhari reduced it

Like I said before, the day GEJ handed over power to buhati, power generation was 1327mw.

In summary, just have this in mind and quit trying to turn facts upside down for a needless political argument - Nigeria's power generation has always fluctuated between averages of 2000 and 4000mw, regardless of who was/is power.

niaralandtopuser:
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/327200-nigerias-generated-electricity-drops-further-to-2919mw.html
We are running on below 3000 now. Jonathan improved on what he met on ground but buhari reduced it

Like I said before, peak generation is different from average generation. Nigerias average generation has always fluctuated betweeen roughly 2000 and 4000mw since 1999 till today.

As a matter of fact again, the very week when GEJ was preparing to hand over to PMB, power generation dropped to 1327mw.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/183496-nigerias-power-generation-at-all-time-low-crashes-to-1327mw.html

Under GEJs time, just like it happens today, there aslo used to be total system collapses where power generation the nation over dropped to zero... It isnt a new thing.

So quit confusing yourself with this erroneous subjective argument of yours that it was better under A or under B. If you must even compare vague figures, why dont you also consider that the Peak generation under GEJ never got up to 5000mw but it has since surpassed that?... Why also dont you compare with verifiable data that peak generation capacity which was about 6000mw pre 2015 is now over 7000mw?...

How exactly did you arrive at your amusing conclusion that GEJ increased power and Buhari reduced it?

niaralandtopuser:
https://m.guardian.ng/news/power-capacity-hits-6000mw-as-jonathan-commissions-fct-substation/

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/327200-nigerias-generated-electricity-drops-further-to-2919mw.html

If I have a car that has the capacity to hit 220km/h, but I have only driven it to speeds of 120km/h, what that simply means is that the peak speed my car has ever attained is 120km/h, not 220km/h.

There is a difference between power generating capacity and actual generated power.

Talking of capacity, I believe Nigeria's generation capacity presently is about 7500mw, but that is not to say we have ever hit that level before.

Iamgrey5:
Bro don't mind them

Nigeria gets majority of its energy from Gas powered plants.

How does raining season affect gas distribution or those involved in pipeline vandalism?

When there is a high load demand on the system and say for example, one major power plant shuts down for whatever reason, the strain on the system becomes even more critical and this could lead to a total system shutdown.

Now how does rainy season affect or help the overall power grid?.... In the peak of rainy season when the dams are full, power generation from hydro dam reaches the peak and helps to stabilise the overall grid. So even if for whatever reason, one or 2 thermal power plants shutdown, the stable power pumped into the grid from hydro plants will somehow still sustain the grid and prevent a total system collapse.

niaralandtopuser:
you have your phone?. there is Google

Peak generation ever attained in Nigeria is 5,222.3mw, and that was sometime in February 2019; and I'm not sure it even lasted up to 24 hours before dropping again below 5000mw. The first time Nigeria's power generation ever crossed the 5000mw mark was in January 2016; once again, it didnt even last up to 24 hours before dropping again.

Since 1999 till date, Nigeria's power generation has hovered around averages of 2000 to 4000mw average; peak generation ever attained was 5222 mw and that was in 2019 as I already mentioned above. Nigeria's power generation has never hit 6000mw.

So I ask you again, what beer parlour do you get your statistics from claiming that power generation was hitting 6000mw during the reign of GEJ?.... You advised me to hit google, try and be honest with yourself, have you bothered googling to confirm what you wrote up there?

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/309349-nigerias-power-generation-increases-in-january-tcn.html

niaralandtopuser:
there is actually less power now than in 2015. the only thing that change is the distribution. it is now being done with bias . some area get improve supply while some get zero supply.

before gej handover, we were distributing close to 6000mw but now we are just on 3000+

What beer parlour do people even dig out these kind of figures from?

blaise26abj:
An era will come with this stupid initiative that people will have meters but no electricity. An era where electricity is sold to the highest bidder to the detriment of the poorer Nigerians. The discos will have no motivation to improve as long as a segment of the populace can pay. Whoever implemented that initiative is the enemy of the people.

Solutions. Why not grant licenses to independent companies that can use gas to generate for small clusters to operate instead. Estates like Magodo can get a company to produce and distribute electricity for them . Stupid and selfish people in position of power

That license I believe has since been granted.