₦airaland Forum

Esseite:
Stupidity is when you are in debt of $65bn (N24tr) but jubiliate over $40bn in the reserve...

Please what are you reserving?

But finally, what bloody moral right does the pdp have to even question or criticise Buhari on borrowing?

The real stupidity is when PDP incurs almost half of the so called debt in 5 years when the nation had almost 4 times more unprecedented income, but in the same period, squandered reserves from over $40bn to $28bn, vaporized ECA of $20bn, and had no tangible projects to show for it, yet they have the guts to criticize APC for borrowing at a different season when there was an oil price slump and govt income was down by over 70%.

Of course the PDP can only exhibit the stupidity above because they know majority of Nigerians lack the capacity to pay attention. First of all, many people ignorantly think the N24trillion debt happened just in 4 years. Secondly, many people assume in their head that it's 16 years vs 4 yrs. Several people have made a comparison saying pDP borrowed Bleep amount in 16 years but APC has borrowed more than that in 4 years. What these people fail to realise is that virtually all the PDP borrowings only happened between 2010 till 2015 when the nation had unprecedented oil revenue.

If APC gives an excuse that it is borrowing because there was an oil recession and national revenue was severely hit since 2015, what excuse exactly does the PDP have for borrowing and accruing almost half of this debt figure between 2010 and 2015 when revenue was 4 times more?

Why should the customer be the ones to pay for meters?... Meters should ideally be the property of the electric company, everything in Nigeria is just an anomaly.

First it was Reno, now FFK, the 2 usual suspects. These PDP pawns are just pained deluded losers.

Meanwhile this is coming from the twerps who just funished gobbling on the poo of another fulani man.

GavelSlam:
The choice of words are quite local, probably from the depths of an uneducated apprentice in Nnewi or Mokola.

In addition, no geologist can tell you with certainty what's going on in a sedimentary basin until investigations are carried out.

Usually such investigations require drilling which is what NNPC is doing right now.

Most of the people making these statements and spreading these false reports have no clue; their statements are driven purely by ethnic prejudice. Had it been that woman had said the opposite, they would have been so pained.

teufelein:
[s]Breaking News: Crude Oil Madness in the North of Nigeria


"Crude oil cannot be discovered in any part of northern Nigerian no matter the depth of drilling, the $1billion wasted in oil exploration in the region should have been invested in education" — American Geologist and Former NASA Astronaut, Kathryn D. Sullivan.[/s]

Trash!...

First of all, who is Kathryn and why exactly should her words be taken as sacred fact?... Is it because she is white or is it just because it aligns with the ethnic prejudices of some fellows?... how are we sure the so called Kathryn actually even made this statement?... Why is this report contained and circulated only in IPOB facebook pages and whatsapp groups?

Most of the oil fields in Nigeria and all over the world today were not known to be oil fields until exploratory drilling discovered the oil. Just recently, oil was found and is now currently drilled in Ghana... If there can be commercial quantities of oil and gas in the Lake Chad basin on the Chadian side of the border, why exactly are some folks who know nothing about petroleum geology so confident that there can't be oil on the Nigerian side of the same basin?

kjhova:
In my N2.50k understanding of Crime Scene Investigation, dont assume anything without thorough investigation.

However, some straight forward observations are that:

1) It can't be OD, can it? 4 people can't possibly OD all at once.

2) It has got nothing to do with soap or sex as most here suggest. People have orgies daily all over the world. It may not fit most people's moral prism but orgies aren't exactly life threatening acts.

3) So maybe a poisonous chemical reaction in the mixed substances they were having? If so, this will easily be identified post mortem.

4) Maybe something poisonous they had earlier that has nothing to do with all of the substances reported here including the sex and the soap?!

5) Poisonous fume from a generator or gas leakage or something?

6) or, if you believe in weird stuff you see on TV, Karma for some previous wrongdoing came down in the form of some horrible looking grandma from the village to knack all of them akpako!

tactius:
Good points.

However on your number 3, they were said to have combined vodka and codeine....which when taken can send you to the other side in minutes.

They also took Tramadol...commonly used by some males to aid in s'x. Also in large doses can cause severe drowisness...then throw in alcohol...

Still, good points. Too bad forensics is not too good in Naija.(money)

In all of this, I place my bet on carbon monoxide poisoning (from gen fumes). Food poisoning, drug OD or marathon sex would rarely take down 4 people at once. CO poisoning is the one silent killer which can easily take down 10 people at a go without anyone one of them even lifting a finger to react.

haymekus:
It's very possible, since they all consumed those substance, you don't expect that they will be conscious of their environment so there is no way they would have noticed that the other person has given up

It's possible but very very very very unlikely that 4 people would just drop dead just like that simply because of tramadol that everyone on the street is abusing. There are numerous more realistic scenarios that may have played out there; this incident bears all the signs of carbon monoxide poisoning from nearby generator fumes. It's disappointing seeing virtually everyone just focused on tramadol and sex.

Jowanson:
Overdose of those substance could have pulled the trigger that killed them!

Sexual marathon such as a foursome on it's own will increase their blood pressure. Adding those killer substance and perhaps they may have taking an overdose of those substance could have increased their blood pressure and caused a severe cardiac arrest.

This is 1 out of 1000 possibilities. But do you agree with me that with us being Nigerians, we've already closed the investigations at this point and proceeded to start the usual preachings?...

Now let's examine the substance of this above conclusion. Sexual marathon and drug overdose, what really are the chances that it would kill 4 people without any of them being able to lift a finger and raise an alarm?.... Were all 4 people having sex at the same instance?

czarina:
I'm not dancing on their graves but then, if this is what it takes to stay "socially" #woke, let us be forever "unwoke".

Struggling parents sends you to school and their reward was a foolish death from a drug-fueled orgy.

We knew some of their type back then in school, they'll make you think you lack sense by not joining in their foolishness when in reality they were walking bags of emptiness.

No R..I. P for any of you. My heart bleeds for your parents. God help them go through this.

People did not start having sex or even orgies today, and people did not start taking tramadol and weed today. How come this one killed 4 people instantly? When did sex or tramadol start killing 4 people instantly?...

The tragedy of Africa is that we are too lazy to investigate anything, so we just jump into quick conclusions and then begin to judge and preach moral lessons. And that's how more people end up dying over avoidable things... Nobody really knows what killed those kids, but everyone is just content with jumping on the bandwagon and judging them for moral vices. Even the so called police after concluding their so called investigations will end up copying and pasting the same comments from threads like this and present it as official findings.

There are 1001 things that could have killed those 4 people; it could be some form of poisoning, it could just be that the drug they used was fake (and might just kill another person if this isnt investigated), it could be outright murder, it could also very likely be carbon monoxide from generator fumes, it could just be anything.

bjtinz:
Which one be thorough job again? They were binging on sex (FOURSOME) , hard drugs, weed and 'soapy'. On its own, each can kill, but when combined?? hmmm

I know you might say your statement above is just a joke, but unfortunately, the reasoning behind this statement explains why nothing works well in Nigeria; we never investigate anything, so we keep repeating the same killer mistakes. Even the so called police after 'concluding their investigations' will end up copying and pasting the same comments from threads like this and present it as official findings.

The fact is that there are 1001 other that could have killed those 4 people; it could be some form of poisoning, it could be that the drug was fake, it could very likely be carbon monoxide from generator fumes, it could just be anything. But of course, tramadol, weed and sex were present at the scene, so therefore, END OF INVESTIGATION!! time to start preaching moral lessons. Every single person talking about this incident is 100% focused on the sex and drugs, not a single person seems to care to know what really happened.

People did not start having sex or even orgies today, and people did not start taking tramadol and weed today. How come this one killed 4 people instantly? When did sex or tramadol start killing 4 people instantly?

CyynthiaKiss:
People of Aniocha (Oshimili and co)axis can never deny being Igbo. That identity crisis is reserved for Ika people. You don't need to lie because you are on nairaland.

Meanwhile, leave politics section.. It's beyond your brain capacity.

Okowa is Ika, Agbor precisely. So this is an interesting development.

RZArecta2:
Lol Ibom deep sea port is “under consideration” while that of Lekki and Badagry are being fast tracked in the same Lagos state. One Nigeria my big foot

Goes to show you how useless the governors in the SS are. You really cant blame Lagos governors for being more sensible leaders can you?

masterchi:
two in Lagos that is already congested while one for the entire south south and south east that is in dire need of ports.

This just goes to show how useless the leaders in the SS are...

CodeTemplar:
Now that the pre-2015 loans are in existence what does Buhari and APC intend to do about it? Are we going to suffer for the whole 8 years because PDP and GEJ messed up?
That's why I don't like rating govt performance based on another govt or admib but by what is available. It gives political biased folks something to hold on to. The fact that GEJ had more to work with doesn't mean what PMB has is too little. Let them work wholeheartedly and stop using events ( mostly corruption ) they have no moral rights to reverse as excuse. If with the hige leakages GEJ allowed in subsidy are blocked and alternative energy sources like gas turbines have been touched even averagely by the current admin, by now our subsidy figure and wasted forex on petrol and diesel imports will be modest.

Look at herdsmen issue and all the stupid proposition we keep seeing, Is PDP also to blame for that also? As long as the govt keep taking side on pressing and critical issues like farmers herdsmen clashes no one will take them seriously. At the end of the day all these issues influences our debt profile but it seems the govt of APC/Buhari is only interested in going the same direction we have maintained since 1970.

You're talking about herdsmen and all, and I'm here wondering what that has to really do with the discussion on loans and the nation's debt level. Hopefully this discussion hasn't drifted into general govt bashing.

Back to the topic, the point I tried to make earlier was that the loans are a necessary evil which Nigeria cannot do without for now. For a country like Nigeria where the govt has very little income compared to the current infrastructure deficit, taking loans to finance capital expenditure is inevitable. If not for those loans, Nigeria would still be neck deep in recession which would have been far worse by now. The loans or the debt isn't the problem, stop viewing it as if it were a problem; a government borrowing or not borrowing is not a yardstick to measure performance... The real problem we should be concerned with is, are the loans being used for sustainable capital projects? That is what we should be focused on and talking about, not anything else.

CodeTemplar:
And what has Buhari and APC done differently from PDP they like to demonize every 10 days? What exactly?

They are borrowing and claiming infrastructure will spur the economy but is our increase in borrowing commensurate with the infrastructural increase we are seeing.
At the base of these mismanagement and lies is our booty mentality towards oil earning. We keep seeing oil money as something to be shared and used to develop strange places and it has brought us far more problems than any mushroom development we have been able to record in the past 50 years. Most project these monies were partly spent on were also conceived and commended before 2015 and I see no reason for the before 2015 part.

The borrowing is much and the debt is piling, but please don't try to compare the current borrowing to the borrowing of the past; there is no basis for comparison here. It is very logical and expected for a person to borrow in times of dwindling income/recession. Our greatest concerns should be whether the funds being borrowed are deployed to verifiable projects.

Nobody seems to question the anomaly that almost half of the current debt figure was borrowed between 2010 and 2015, at a time when the nation's income was at its peak (most people are actually ignorant of this fact and are being made to believe the entire debt appeared today). You really can't compare pre-2015 borrowing when income was high to post-2015 when national income dropped by more than 60%.

The 2 most important things we should be worried about and questions we should be asking are:
(1) Why was so much borrowed between 2010 and 2015 when income was high?
(2) The funds borrowed today, are they being channeled to sensible projects?

Od1n:
This government promised to offset these debts with their $1 = N1. Then they go and escalate the free fall themselves. There is no excuse.

Firsty, what has $1 = N1 got to do with national debt?... It seems some people just come online to speak off-point because they see others talking. And by the way, nobody ever made any $1 = N1 promise, the statement was never made anywhere by anybody, it was just another one of the typical election lies which went too far. But if you choose to dwell on that, feel free.

GOFRONT:
And yet, We are the 8th hungry people in the world....

I wonder oh.. after all, N400biĺlion should be able to fund 100% of Nigeria's budget and solve all of Nigeria's problems instantly.

MxreR:
24T in just 4yrs with nothing to show

More than half of that was borriwed b4 2015. The world did not start rotating in 2015.

I'm guessing a bullet should have been put in the head of each one of them. That would have been a more accepted outcome for many people. But unfortunately, that wouldnt be possible, they should never have been taken prisoners in the first place.

JasonScoolari:
I don’t owe any girl orgasm, once i cum i cum. We both started the same time.
I’ll leave the dick for you sha, if you like ride it, bend on it, jump on it, it’s your problem, hustle for your orgasm.

I can't come and kill myself because I want to go 2hrs on top of a pussy.

globemoney:
Is there any popular Igbo on twitter that’s as tribalistic as this Ogundamisi, I’ll like to know. A popular Igbo user on twitter that bashed Yorubas the way this old fool does to Igbo

I read through the tweet in the Op, but I couldn't find a single thing in that tweet that suggests that the person bashed any tribe; there wasnt even a single mention of tribe in that tweet.. How exactly did you see tribe there?

Cc: Dreambeat

Funny how politics works. PDP senators would back anybody who they think is against the apc leadership.

dollarsplenty:
How did he arrive at that? Where I live, the jobs of the cooks are being done by politicians and their families. They give these pupil only rice and beans everyday. These are parts of cows, eggs and other statistics being ditched out by VP. The home grown school feeding program is good program but poorly and corruptly managed.

Lol

Wrong thread alert!

kingjudecy:
Amokiri and his co-travellers are all spent scums.
His ridiculous mentality has blinded his sense of reasoning long after he lost out in this administration.
Herders have always been transiting thus same route since time immemorial and there's nothing new about it.
Putting up this photo really exposes how pained, miserable and frustrated Reno Omokiri has been.

Deep emotions can ruin the reasoning of even the most educated and enlightened people and turn them to retarrds... I've learnt a new one today, cows started walking on roads in Nigeria only since 2015 after buhari became president.

NairaMedia:
[url][/url]Moment second set of Nigeria citizens, Cow takes over the entrance of Aso Rock.

Photo shared by Reno Omokri, he wrote:

This photo of cows taking over the gate of @AsoRock @NgrPresident Villa is a summary of what @MBuhari has done to Nigeria. Promoting the interests of cows over humans to the extent that his spokesman, @FemAdesina, said 'giving land for ranching is better than death'

Source: https://www.mediahelm.com.ng/2019/04/cows-take-over-gate-presidential-villa.html

Reno once again appealing to his fellow pained and deluded followers with his usual poo... Buhari according to Reno and co is the one who invented cows walking on the streets in Nigeria....

sukerefakere:
typing with a white man invention..

What is Nigeria bringing to the table of development..

Nothing.. Zero

Yeah right. So therefore, anything a white man tells me should be taken seriously, irrespective of whoever the man is. As long as he's white. Congratulations!

iswallker:
Are you the agriculture minister...

I am saying this man should be busy formulating and implementing policies of govt that will lead to food sustainability, job creation and export earnings for this country rather than bothering his head about people in the upper class which he is a member and what they do with their money..

I do not have to be the agriculture minister to support his commonsensical stance. Every educated or enlightened person in Nigeria understands that the excessive love Nigerians have for imported produce is bleeding our economy... If we have a better economy, woul all those things you mentioned above (i.e food sustainability, job creation and export earnings) not be assured?... So why exactly are you furious with the agric minister for simply re-echoing something every smart Nigerian should already know?... Or are you just one.of those who just go out of their way ti just criticise any and everything just for the sake of it?

The man is a member of the FEC, he's a Nigerian, and just like you and I, he wants a Nigeria that works. He simply lamented the bizarre affinity Nigerians have for imported products and proceeded to give an extreme/exaggerated example to buttress his point (i.e. people importing something as flimsy as pizza). By all logical sense, what exactly is wrong with the minister's stance and why are you furious about this? Am I missing something?

Who exactly is Steve Hanke?... and why exactly should I take his classroom assignment result seriously in Nigeria?... Oh I forgot, he's a white man.

bastardmod:
You are a hypocrite and a complete fool... Useless idiot. Fake pastor

Take a glass of water man...

HenryInno1:
What Kumuyi said is Biblical Read Deutronomy 22:5 1st Timothy 2:9

First of all, Deutronomy 22 talks about the Laws of Moses which are totally impractical, have been done away with and which no living preacher or Christian abides by today. You cannot just pick and choose selected verses from the numerous laws of Moses and claim they are now approved laws of Christ today in 2018. Sometimes it's really disturbing seeing how people read and interpret the bible with little understanding. The Laws of Moses say if you break a single law, you've broken all; yet in 2018, we have people picking and choosing the laws they want to obey/preach about, whilst they ignore the rest, and how these people strangely do not know they are deceiving themselves is really surprising.

Meanwhile, let's assume the law prohibiting women from wearing men's clothing is still even valid today; what exactly is women clothing and what is men's clothing?... Apparently the bone of contention here is women wearing trousers, but the last time I checked, there's a difference between male trousers and female trousers.

sexiestharam:
For this thing to be news shows how jobless and silly Nigerian youths are. A show that keeps cashing out in adverts and jobless youth also vote for nonentities who don't care about them when they are out. Anybody supporting this scripted program needs to get his/her brain checked.

First of all, it is called ENTERTAINMENT (you can do yourself some good by looking up the meaning of that word in the dictionary). What entertains Mr A might not be what entertains Mr B ...#CommonSense101

You do not fancy a particular TV show, but that does not in any way make those who fancy the program silly or jobless. The only people who need their brains checked are those who harbour this kind of your childish bigoted mentality (thinking you're smarter than others simply because they like a TV show but you don't).

cc: Sermwell, abbaapple

MetaPhysical:
I think Gbajabiamila will be adopted as Speaker without going to vote. APC only need 181 votes for Gbajabiamila to win the contest and they have over 220. With this wide margin Gbajbiamila has a much better chance becoming Speaker than does Lawan in Senate where the margin is narrow and a few outliers can change fortunes for Lawan becoming President in Senate.

Femi's opponents will also be APC members who will share those 220 votes. The eventual winner would need PDP support and you know Tinubu is one of the greatest nightmares to PDP, so they will typically vote against anyone Tinubu supports just like in 2015.