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I think Freeze has now totally lost it. I thought this dude was at least smart and intelligent.

25th of December is a free day (it is not patented to anyone), anybody can choose to celebrate whatever they decide in their heart to celebrate. As for me, I choose to celebrate Jesus Christ on that day. How exactly is it my concern if some folks somewhere chose to celebrate some guy named Nimrod or if the celebration of some Nimrod dude actually was always done on the 25th of December.

ednut1:
just wait and see. There are many pple he has collected money from and he refused to refund. Go to FAF website and see d process. Wait till pple starts to petition d usa. U charge $1000 for processing den he throws u to d embassy who rejects ur visa application. He den chops ur money. U get a letter wen u pay 225 dols to faf. Mr uche pockets d 725 balance hahahaahah

But that's exactly what visa agents do everyday. What exactly is new there? Agents charge you thousands of Naira for a simple service which you can go to a website and do by yourself. Same thing with travel agents who charge you mega bucks for tickets when you can easily go to price comparison sites yourself to seek the service.

ednut1:
na u sabi. 1000 as processing fee for a program by faf bt claiming its UN lol. Call himself un ambassador. When he is nor

The fact is that he can't be 'legally' held responsible for any wrongdoing. Yes he might be playing a fast one and capitalising on his little access to make business. But can you really hold him responsible for any fraud?

ednut1:
fowl yansh don open

Still doesnt proof anything. The chat message by the Uchamba guy did not say the $1000 was a UN fee; except you have another info which we dont, the chay screenshot posted by the Op did not say UN fee. The money was clearly stated to be his fee for his service to assist prospective attendees arrange an invitation letter, and also help in visa processing. This is not unusual and its what visa/travel agents around world do. Prove that I'm wrong by kindly pointing out where Mr Uchemba claimed the fee was UN fee?

ednut1:
read the link i attached before . This is the one he dey advertise. Its not even from UN. It costs 225 dols self . https://www.youthassembly.nyc/apply

He's selling a service, and it isnt mandatory for anyone to buy his service. Except you can provide evidence that he took anyone's money without delivering on the agreed service, try again bro!

Like I said before, a lot of Nigerian youths need deliverance from pull him down syndrome. Yours seems to be serious.

Kanu said, "Nigeria can never work" but Badeh disagreed saying "No! Nigeria can work."

The above is news?

ednut1:
is the programme legit Nope. Go thru UN Website and check.So we can say its a scam

What exactly about the programme is illegal?... isnt there a UN youth assembly in existence? Anyway, you win! Williams Uchemba is a scamming bastard making money off people by selling fictitious services.

ednut1:
d do called programme is not run by UN. He also claims to be an ambassdor. Na scam tins jor

Who did he scam? Did he collect money from you and not deliver on the agreed service?

Decryptor:
Why waste time replying that ednut1? His brothers are busy doing yahoo+ and scamming Australians and Americans plus burying peoples' daughters in their bedrooms just to get rich. Here is a guy asking to be paid for delivering a service and he calls him a scammer because one "wide-nosed mosquito" said so.

No I'm actually just giving him the benefit of a doubt here, maybe he knows something else which we dont. I'm just curious to know what else it is he knows cos judging from the screenshot chat message, I really struggle to see how that's scam.

ednut1:
https://www.un.org/development/desa/youth/what-we-do/youth-delegate-programme.html

Okay so how exactly does this prove that he's a scammer?... He demanded $1000 for a service whose details were spelt out in that chat image.

We're all aware of even visa agents that charge even more just to help you fill a simple for which you can fill yourself. Patronising his service isn't mandatory, you could go through it yourself or try other agent. I'm still curious to find out how he's a scammer in this, maybe I really didnt understand what I read.

ednut1:
make ur research oga. D guy na scam

Since you've done a thorough research on him to confirm he's a fraud, why dont you provide evidence to enlighten us instead of just these empty statements?

A lot of Nigerians need deliverance from the pull-him-down syndrome.

Taking a payment of $1000 to deliver on a service, how exactly is that scam?.... That is simply business, and if you aren't interested in his services, you can try elsewhere.

Of course too many Nigerians are scammers and many others are just bile filled bad-belle haters. So I'm not surprised people are already rejoicing here that he's been labelled a scam by one disgruntled client.

Nogodye:
Train you child in the way that he should go, so when growing up he will not be a "victim of circumstances"

Anybody can be a victim of circumstance, anybody! So we ought to be careful how we turn moral judges and mock people when they fall into trouble. Cos you never know when you or your loved one will be at the right place but at the wrong time. I wonder how you will feel when strangers randomly adjudge you "a person without proper training."

This is not me exonerating the boy though, cos I neither know him nor his business.

It appears the man was trying to strike a deal, a deal which may have involved ratting out some powerful people. Silencing him was the next thing...

She also makes cash from ‘money slaves’, who deposit cash in her account for no reason and enjoy the humiliation of being ignored by her.
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“I once sold two pants for £250. He wanted me to wear them for a week. I showered but would put them on for an hour here and there. It makes you wonder what they do with them.

What sort of bizarre oddity is this?

Meanwhile if it were in Nigeria, we'd all be bothered about how she's now a walking corpse. #AfricanMentality

Righteousness89:
Arrest the woman if u have Evidences against her!

She is in London!
Stop this News Paper Prosecution!

But that's exactly what they are doing. How come its a bother to you?

Wendell Simlins

The responses on this thread are quite amusing. There's just this desperation by some folks to claim the money from the ECA was stolen.

The thread earlier today about ECA money being low got so many people so so excited. Now an explanation proving how and when the money was spent (which was never even a secret) has now been put forward by the Tolu guy, much to the disappointment of many. Some folk out of frustration even asked if Tolu is the finance minister. Naija I hail!

ifada123:
I know that percentage can be more than 100.
But in a population of voters a percentage more than 100 is inconsistent.
Meanwhile it will not make sense if he said the igbos gave 5% of his vote 97% are from Hausa and others.
The sentence will tell if a % greater than 100 is accurate, consistent or otherwise sir

Are you sure you read what I wrote?... or did you even bother reading or listening to the statement from Buhari before proceeding to your above conclusions?

This was the statement from Buhari:
"People who gave me only 5% of their votes cant expect to get the same treatment as people who gave me 97% of their vote"

With the above statement, do you still think you should be adding 5 to 97 and expecting 100% ? Now that you know the real statement, do you still think there's anything mathematically wrong or inconsistent with that statement?

virago:
Now you are the one mixing things up , 5 X 5 is basic primary 1 or 2 maths , there is a degree to everything , in your case you would expect any adult or graduate to know basic primary one English or maths. It's akin to saying a graduate who can't spell come , go , book or sit now compare that to graduates who can't solve senior secondary maths and believe me there are tonnes of people like that.

I'm not mixing anything up. English or maths knowledge isn't a measure of intelligence ordinarily, but there are definitely some exceptional cases. E.g. a graduate that cannot solve primary school arithmetic like 5 x 5, it's either the person is autistic or the person is extremely dumb. I still cant understand how such a person could even graduate in the first place if not thrpugh dubious means.

Imagine a graduate writing 3 sentences and every single freaking word in all 3 sentences is spelt wrongly. I'm sorry, there's no argument for that, the excuse of "English not being our first language" cant fly on that, especially when the person has gone through primary secondary and tertiary education.

ifada123:
Did you know that buhari
Was not able to recognize that 97 +5 =100?
And in the case you cited, most people will find it cool if the person decide to us his calculator to compute 5×5,

Lol... There was absolutely nothing mathematically wrong with Buhari's 97% and 5% statement. You (and millions of others) just failed to comprehend it. As usual, we Nigerians are more concerned about making jokes.

In maths, it's not everytime you see percentages that you must add the numbers and expect 100%. At least not when comparing exclusive events.

"People from City A gave me 97% of their votes but people from City B gave me only 5% of their votes."

In the above situatiin, do you expect to just add 97 + 5 and expect 100?

virago:
But you can not disregard other yardstick of measurement as you would most likely get it wrong. I'll use your logic as an example , we all know mathematical proficiency is low and more people ( at least 8 out of 10 ) are not really maths oriented but would it be wise to judge based on mathematical proficiency alone ?. While English may say something about the environment you grew up ( I'll come to that in a bit ) it shouldn't be used solely as a measure of intelligence.

Yes to a large extent speaking "good" English has a lot to do with where you were brought up , you won't expect a child who grew up in a rural environment to speak better English than one who grew up in Banana Island or even in England but we can not say the child who grew up in Ikoyi is more intelligent than the one who grew up in Aramoko.

Haha, you're still missing the point I'm trying to make. I really doubt you have seen the tweet that birthed this conversation. If you see it, you will speak no more! I wonder why the Op didn't post the tweet and for some reason, I can't seem to find it online any more.

English fluency obviously cannot be a used as a yardstick to measure intelligence. But in some bizarre cases like this one, I'm sorry, exceptions MUST be made. Using your example about poor math ability not being a reasonable measure of a person's intelligence, what exactly would you say if you met a GRADUATE who has been through primary school, secondary school and a tertiary institution, but cannot solve 5 x 5? Would you still make this argument about mathematics not being a test of knowledge?

SANDAT:
Sorry, you failed to take into cognisance the environment she lives and the schools she attended. where i come from children dont speak English amongs themselves even at school not to talk of home. But yet we find some who do very well in all subjects but written or spoken English.

Nope! I didnt overlook that. English fluency may not be a good measure of intelligence, but it can still to a large extent be used to qualitatively gauge a person's aptitude (i.e. their ability to learn).

I really doubt you saw the so called tweet by the corper girl the Op is talking about. Even if the girl was raised in a cave by gorillas, the very fact that she's attended a primary school, secondary and a tertiary institution, there's a basic level of English command (doesnt have to be excellent) that is expected of the individual irrespective of if she lived in a cave.

Simpubozz:
and what do you suggest we could do as a nation to overwrite this orientation?

I'm not the best person to ask this question cos I'm neither for nor against the argument.

My position is that whilst English fluency may not be a good measure of intelligence, it can still to a large extent be used to qualitatively gauge a person's aptitude.

salbis:
I hope all these holidaying in somebody's premises will not go south. Congratulations to you both.

And where exactly do you think the 'premises' is?

StylesX:
I saw what a corper posted on fb today and i posted it on my status, so some aggressive girl picked offense and started saying many things, English is not a measure of intelligence is all i could pick from all she said, and i decided to bring the argument here, contributions please.

English fluency may not be an established measure of intelligence in the large scheme of things. However, in a country like Nigeria where English isn't our first language and where most people are first exposed to English language in schools, when other yardsticks of measurement are absent, an individuals command of English language can be used as a first pointer to measure the person's intelligence/aptitude.

With regards to the corper girl with the appalling English grammar, I'm sorry to say but she must be dumb. After attending different levels of school for at least 18 years of her life, if she can't still string together a simple decent sentence, or spell simple words correctly, then her aptitude for learning must be very low.

Famousbabe:
Source: http://www..com/2018/12/outrage-as-men-sexualize-5-year-old.html?m=1

I'm not sorry to say this, the lady in that video and all others ladies and men alike who are castigating those two men are just myopic.

Whether we like it or not, there are paedophiles out there. A man giving a general advice to parents to not do anything which would expose their kids to the prying eyes of paedophiles, I don't see how that makes the man automatically a paedophile or an individual with warped thinking.

What those men have said is simply a wise warning to parents to protect their kids, do not do anything that would expose your kids to trouble! But here we have it, instead of heeding the simple advice, we automatically turn around accusing the men of being the predators?

Foolishness truly abounds in this day!

alBHAGDADI:
1. Tithing doesn't predate the Law

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2. Tithing in the Law

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3. Tithing after the Law



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1. Tithing doesn't predate the Law
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Out of their foolish smartness, they will still ask to know whether Abraham continually paid tithe. What they are saying is that the Bible should be all about Abraham paying tithe because there aren't other stories to write about.

Abraham's grandson Jacob also gave tithe before the law of Moses. Remember Jacob is the father of the Israelites whom Moses came from.

Genesis 28:20-22
20 And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,
21 So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the Lord be my God:
22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.
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A tithe is simply a tenth. If a man takes 10% of an amount of money given to him to organise a feast, this can loosely be described by saying "he used a tithe of the money he collected to organise a feast." So in order not to mix up meanings, let me start with a little clarification. The tithing gospel preached today talks about regularly and mandatorily giving 10% of our earnings to a church. This version of tithing does not predate the Laws of Moses.

Of course Abraham gave a tithe of his spoils to King Melchizedek, but that was not a law and neither was it commanded to him by God; Abraham did that out of his own freewill due to his love and gratitude to God following his victory in battle. It is like a thanksgiving offering, no scripture commands that it was done or must be done regularly. That brings me to the next point...

You just label people who say Abraham did not continually pay tithe as 'foolish', you claim the bible had other stories to talk about so therefore, it was unnecessary to mention that little detail. You should be careful the way you insult people to pass your message across; remember, using insulting words on others doesn't necessarily make you a wise man.

Now let us examine your claim, if Abraham continued to regularly give a tenth of his increase to King Melchizedek, firstly, there's no way the bible wouldn't have spared a single sentence to mention that. Again, if he did that regularly, then he would have passed the tradition unto his son Isaac, and Isaac to his sons, Jacob and Esau. From the verses you quoted above (Genesis 28:20-22), it is very clear to even a child that that was not the case; if Jacob was already a tither, then he would obviously not have needed to make a vow to God to start tithing if God kept him safe. Finally, just like Abraham, Jacob's decision to tithe was not a command, it was a personal decision, a freewill decision, and it was never a law from God.


TITHING IN THE LAW, TITHING AFTER THE LAW
First of all, it’s good that you acknowledge that we’re no longer under the era of the Laws. But you’re right, several things under the law are still binding till date, but these things fall under the 2 primary commands, “Love God, and Love your neighbour”. Your claim that everything which was changed under the law should have been mentioned in the new testament is not necessarily true; you don’t expect every single thing to be spelt out explicitly again even after Christ had given the 2 primary commands. For example, the law about not wearing dual fabric garment (Lev 19:19) or the law on not cutting side hair/side burns (Lev 19:27), these 2 laws were never mentioned again in the new testament, so do you mean to tell us that it is still currently an abomination and a sin for a man to cut his side hair, or to wear a garment made of dual fabric?

But that notwithstanding, you claim the law on mandatory tithing was never mentioned in the new testament and therefore was never changed and is still binding even to gentile believers till date. Are you really sure the laws on tithing were not mentioned / changed? So what do you think about the teachings in 2Corinthians 9:7?

2Corinthians 9:7 – “Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver”

The verse above summarises how Paul taught the Gentile believers to give, i.e. giving freely, without compulsion, whatever they make out in their heart (i.e. not a specific percentage). He also encouraged them in the prior verse to give a substantial amount, because if they give sparingly, they will only reap sparingly. If you claim that the law of Moses concerning MANDATORY tithing was and is still a binding law even to the Gentiles, how come Paul didn’t teach the Corinthians to firstly give a minimum of 10% of their earnings?


Oga preacher, it is a good thing for a person to pay a tithe; a tither will certainly get blessed by God. But preaching that it is God's command to Christians even in 2018 to mandatorily give 10% of their earning to a church regularly, and that if they don't, they risk God's punishment, that is a false teaching which goes contrary to what the apostles preached. You and your likes should better repent before it's too late.

Nonsense politics... how does Gana possibly think he would have a better chance than Duke?

jmaine:
Fashola made that statement in March 2015, which was over a year after the unbundling or partial privatization of the power sector in 2013.
Get your facts correctly.
Fashola is very stupid and shameless for uttering this crap.

https://www.nairaland.com/2186803/power-supply-all-homes-lagos

Hmmm... You should take the words of a politician to literally, especially words said just befor elections.

But then again, if you go back and read that statement from the report you supplied, there's a very important conditional clause to it which everyone seems to ignore for whatever reason whilst we selectively re-echo the 'sweet' part of the statement. And that conditional clause is still what Fash is talking of today, i.e. "if the DISCOs will yield some of their rights back to his govt."

The point he's simply tried to make is that there's not much he can do to improve an asset if the asset isnt owned or operated by him. Whilst we might all agree that he's just making excuses, you cant deny the fact that it's a viable excuse.

Power supply: All homes in Lagos will be lit in six months if… —Fashola

March 09, 2015

Governor Babatunde Fashola of Lagos State, yesterday, said the solution to the problem of power sector could be achieved in six months if the Distribution Companies, DISCOs, were ready to yield some percentages of their concessions to the state government.

Fashola made this statement at the commissioning of the 1.2 kilometer Glover Road and 8.5 megawatts, Peninsula Integrated Power Project, PIPP, Lekki, Eti-Osa Local Government Area.

taekwon:
The same man told us that every reasonable government should be able to provide power for it's citizenry within six months. why the stupid excuse. if you can't effect change then i suppose you should quit the position. FOOLS. Self centered idiots in a zoo country.

The government no longer owns the assets, when he made that statement, the government was still responsible for the power assets 100%. What exactly is stupid in what he's said? Why is reading so difficult for Nigerians?

ProAnti:
Let's for the sake of argument assume the private owners have been bad managers. What can we say of the government who is not just a part-owner in some of the companies but who in most cases fully own some of the key players?

The issues bedevilling the power sector can be solved by the private sector if and only if they get the backing of the government and the consumers.

We cannot put all the blame on the doorsteps of the private part-owners of the discos (and gencos) as the liquidity and other issues they face are substantial. As @Reference rightly inferred, government agencies and facilities are some of the biggest electricity debtors. I don't expect a disco staff to confidently disconnect a military installation for failing to pay electricity bills.

Of course a large part of the buck still remains in the hands of the government. The govt still owns TCN whose limited capacity is the reason we can't get over 5000mw even at the peak of the rainy season. A major problem which some of the GENCOs face is also lack of gas supply, which renders several functional turbines idle.

But finally, if we must be honest, the biggest impediment to reasonable power supply in Nigeria still remains the DISCOs. Can the govt really be blamed for the incapacity of the DISCOs?... Except we're calling on the government to start paying subsidies to DISCOs to improve their infrastrcuture and supply pre-paid meters to customers, I really don't see how government should be blamed for their incapacity.