₦airaland Forum

Nogodye:
Train you child in the way that he should go, so when growing up he will not be a "victim of circumstances"

Anybody can be a victim of circumstance, anybody! So we ought to be careful how we turn moral judges and mock people when they fall into trouble. Cos you never know when you or your loved one will be at the right place but at the wrong time. I wonder how you will feel when strangers randomly adjudge you "a person without proper training."

This is not me exonerating the boy though, cos I neither know him nor his business.

It appears the man was trying to strike a deal, a deal which may have involved ratting out some powerful people. Silencing him was the next thing...

She also makes cash from ‘money slaves’, who deposit cash in her account for no reason and enjoy the humiliation of being ignored by her.
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“I once sold two pants for £250. He wanted me to wear them for a week. I showered but would put them on for an hour here and there. It makes you wonder what they do with them.

What sort of bizarre oddity is this?

Meanwhile if it were in Nigeria, we'd all be bothered about how she's now a walking corpse. #AfricanMentality

Righteousness89:
Arrest the woman if u have Evidences against her!

She is in London!
Stop this News Paper Prosecution!

But that's exactly what they are doing. How come its a bother to you?

Wendell Simlins

The responses on this thread are quite amusing. There's just this desperation by some folks to claim the money from the ECA was stolen.

The thread earlier today about ECA money being low got so many people so so excited. Now an explanation proving how and when the money was spent (which was never even a secret) has now been put forward by the Tolu guy, much to the disappointment of many. Some folk out of frustration even asked if Tolu is the finance minister. Naija I hail!

ifada123:
I know that percentage can be more than 100.
But in a population of voters a percentage more than 100 is inconsistent.
Meanwhile it will not make sense if he said the igbos gave 5% of his vote 97% are from Hausa and others.
The sentence will tell if a % greater than 100 is accurate, consistent or otherwise sir

Are you sure you read what I wrote?... or did you even bother reading or listening to the statement from Buhari before proceeding to your above conclusions?

This was the statement from Buhari:
"People who gave me only 5% of their votes cant expect to get the same treatment as people who gave me 97% of their vote"

With the above statement, do you still think you should be adding 5 to 97 and expecting 100% ? Now that you know the real statement, do you still think there's anything mathematically wrong or inconsistent with that statement?

virago:
Now you are the one mixing things up , 5 X 5 is basic primary 1 or 2 maths , there is a degree to everything , in your case you would expect any adult or graduate to know basic primary one English or maths. It's akin to saying a graduate who can't spell come , go , book or sit now compare that to graduates who can't solve senior secondary maths and believe me there are tonnes of people like that.

I'm not mixing anything up. English or maths knowledge isn't a measure of intelligence ordinarily, but there are definitely some exceptional cases. E.g. a graduate that cannot solve primary school arithmetic like 5 x 5, it's either the person is autistic or the person is extremely dumb. I still cant understand how such a person could even graduate in the first place if not thrpugh dubious means.

Imagine a graduate writing 3 sentences and every single freaking word in all 3 sentences is spelt wrongly. I'm sorry, there's no argument for that, the excuse of "English not being our first language" cant fly on that, especially when the person has gone through primary secondary and tertiary education.

ifada123:
Did you know that buhari
Was not able to recognize that 97 +5 =100?
And in the case you cited, most people will find it cool if the person decide to us his calculator to compute 5×5,

Lol... There was absolutely nothing mathematically wrong with Buhari's 97% and 5% statement. You (and millions of others) just failed to comprehend it. As usual, we Nigerians are more concerned about making jokes.

In maths, it's not everytime you see percentages that you must add the numbers and expect 100%. At least not when comparing exclusive events.

"People from City A gave me 97% of their votes but people from City B gave me only 5% of their votes."

In the above situatiin, do you expect to just add 97 + 5 and expect 100?

virago:
But you can not disregard other yardstick of measurement as you would most likely get it wrong. I'll use your logic as an example , we all know mathematical proficiency is low and more people ( at least 8 out of 10 ) are not really maths oriented but would it be wise to judge based on mathematical proficiency alone ?. While English may say something about the environment you grew up ( I'll come to that in a bit ) it shouldn't be used solely as a measure of intelligence.

Yes to a large extent speaking "good" English has a lot to do with where you were brought up , you won't expect a child who grew up in a rural environment to speak better English than one who grew up in Banana Island or even in England but we can not say the child who grew up in Ikoyi is more intelligent than the one who grew up in Aramoko.

Haha, you're still missing the point I'm trying to make. I really doubt you have seen the tweet that birthed this conversation. If you see it, you will speak no more! I wonder why the Op didn't post the tweet and for some reason, I can't seem to find it online any more.

English fluency obviously cannot be a used as a yardstick to measure intelligence. But in some bizarre cases like this one, I'm sorry, exceptions MUST be made. Using your example about poor math ability not being a reasonable measure of a person's intelligence, what exactly would you say if you met a GRADUATE who has been through primary school, secondary school and a tertiary institution, but cannot solve 5 x 5? Would you still make this argument about mathematics not being a test of knowledge?

SANDAT:
Sorry, you failed to take into cognisance the environment she lives and the schools she attended. where i come from children dont speak English amongs themselves even at school not to talk of home. But yet we find some who do very well in all subjects but written or spoken English.

Nope! I didnt overlook that. English fluency may not be a good measure of intelligence, but it can still to a large extent be used to qualitatively gauge a person's aptitude (i.e. their ability to learn).

I really doubt you saw the so called tweet by the corper girl the Op is talking about. Even if the girl was raised in a cave by gorillas, the very fact that she's attended a primary school, secondary and a tertiary institution, there's a basic level of English command (doesnt have to be excellent) that is expected of the individual irrespective of if she lived in a cave.

Simpubozz:
and what do you suggest we could do as a nation to overwrite this orientation?

I'm not the best person to ask this question cos I'm neither for nor against the argument.

My position is that whilst English fluency may not be a good measure of intelligence, it can still to a large extent be used to qualitatively gauge a person's aptitude.

salbis:
I hope all these holidaying in somebody's premises will not go south. Congratulations to you both.

And where exactly do you think the 'premises' is?

StylesX:
I saw what a corper posted on fb today and i posted it on my status, so some aggressive girl picked offense and started saying many things, English is not a measure of intelligence is all i could pick from all she said, and i decided to bring the argument here, contributions please.

English fluency may not be an established measure of intelligence in the large scheme of things. However, in a country like Nigeria where English isn't our first language and where most people are first exposed to English language in schools, when other yardsticks of measurement are absent, an individuals command of English language can be used as a first pointer to measure the person's intelligence/aptitude.

With regards to the corper girl with the appalling English grammar, I'm sorry to say but she must be dumb. After attending different levels of school for at least 18 years of her life, if she can't still string together a simple decent sentence, or spell simple words correctly, then her aptitude for learning must be very low.

Famousbabe:
Source: http://www..com/2018/12/outrage-as-men-sexualize-5-year-old.html?m=1

I'm not sorry to say this, the lady in that video and all others ladies and men alike who are castigating those two men are just myopic.

Whether we like it or not, there are paedophiles out there. A man giving a general advice to parents to not do anything which would expose their kids to the prying eyes of paedophiles, I don't see how that makes the man automatically a paedophile or an individual with warped thinking.

What those men have said is simply a wise warning to parents to protect their kids, do not do anything that would expose your kids to trouble! But here we have it, instead of heeding the simple advice, we automatically turn around accusing the men of being the predators?

Foolishness truly abounds in this day!

alBHAGDADI:
1. Tithing doesn't predate the Law

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2. Tithing in the Law

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3. Tithing after the Law



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1. Tithing doesn't predate the Law
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Out of their foolish smartness, they will still ask to know whether Abraham continually paid tithe. What they are saying is that the Bible should be all about Abraham paying tithe because there aren't other stories to write about.

Abraham's grandson Jacob also gave tithe before the law of Moses. Remember Jacob is the father of the Israelites whom Moses came from.

Genesis 28:20-22
20 And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,
21 So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the Lord be my God:
22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.
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A tithe is simply a tenth. If a man takes 10% of an amount of money given to him to organise a feast, this can loosely be described by saying "he used a tithe of the money he collected to organise a feast." So in order not to mix up meanings, let me start with a little clarification. The tithing gospel preached today talks about regularly and mandatorily giving 10% of our earnings to a church. This version of tithing does not predate the Laws of Moses.

Of course Abraham gave a tithe of his spoils to King Melchizedek, but that was not a law and neither was it commanded to him by God; Abraham did that out of his own freewill due to his love and gratitude to God following his victory in battle. It is like a thanksgiving offering, no scripture commands that it was done or must be done regularly. That brings me to the next point...

You just label people who say Abraham did not continually pay tithe as 'foolish', you claim the bible had other stories to talk about so therefore, it was unnecessary to mention that little detail. You should be careful the way you insult people to pass your message across; remember, using insulting words on others doesn't necessarily make you a wise man.

Now let us examine your claim, if Abraham continued to regularly give a tenth of his increase to King Melchizedek, firstly, there's no way the bible wouldn't have spared a single sentence to mention that. Again, if he did that regularly, then he would have passed the tradition unto his son Isaac, and Isaac to his sons, Jacob and Esau. From the verses you quoted above (Genesis 28:20-22), it is very clear to even a child that that was not the case; if Jacob was already a tither, then he would obviously not have needed to make a vow to God to start tithing if God kept him safe. Finally, just like Abraham, Jacob's decision to tithe was not a command, it was a personal decision, a freewill decision, and it was never a law from God.


TITHING IN THE LAW, TITHING AFTER THE LAW
First of all, it’s good that you acknowledge that we’re no longer under the era of the Laws. But you’re right, several things under the law are still binding till date, but these things fall under the 2 primary commands, “Love God, and Love your neighbour”. Your claim that everything which was changed under the law should have been mentioned in the new testament is not necessarily true; you don’t expect every single thing to be spelt out explicitly again even after Christ had given the 2 primary commands. For example, the law about not wearing dual fabric garment (Lev 19:19) or the law on not cutting side hair/side burns (Lev 19:27), these 2 laws were never mentioned again in the new testament, so do you mean to tell us that it is still currently an abomination and a sin for a man to cut his side hair, or to wear a garment made of dual fabric?

But that notwithstanding, you claim the law on mandatory tithing was never mentioned in the new testament and therefore was never changed and is still binding even to gentile believers till date. Are you really sure the laws on tithing were not mentioned / changed? So what do you think about the teachings in 2Corinthians 9:7?

2Corinthians 9:7 – “Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver”

The verse above summarises how Paul taught the Gentile believers to give, i.e. giving freely, without compulsion, whatever they make out in their heart (i.e. not a specific percentage). He also encouraged them in the prior verse to give a substantial amount, because if they give sparingly, they will only reap sparingly. If you claim that the law of Moses concerning MANDATORY tithing was and is still a binding law even to the Gentiles, how come Paul didn’t teach the Corinthians to firstly give a minimum of 10% of their earnings?


Oga preacher, it is a good thing for a person to pay a tithe; a tither will certainly get blessed by God. But preaching that it is God's command to Christians even in 2018 to mandatorily give 10% of their earning to a church regularly, and that if they don't, they risk God's punishment, that is a false teaching which goes contrary to what the apostles preached. You and your likes should better repent before it's too late.

Nonsense politics... how does Gana possibly think he would have a better chance than Duke?

jmaine:
Fashola made that statement in March 2015, which was over a year after the unbundling or partial privatization of the power sector in 2013.
Get your facts correctly.
Fashola is very stupid and shameless for uttering this crap.

https://www.nairaland.com/2186803/power-supply-all-homes-lagos

Hmmm... You should take the words of a politician to literally, especially words said just befor elections.

But then again, if you go back and read that statement from the report you supplied, there's a very important conditional clause to it which everyone seems to ignore for whatever reason whilst we selectively re-echo the 'sweet' part of the statement. And that conditional clause is still what Fash is talking of today, i.e. "if the DISCOs will yield some of their rights back to his govt."

The point he's simply tried to make is that there's not much he can do to improve an asset if the asset isnt owned or operated by him. Whilst we might all agree that he's just making excuses, you cant deny the fact that it's a viable excuse.

Power supply: All homes in Lagos will be lit in six months if… —Fashola

March 09, 2015

Governor Babatunde Fashola of Lagos State, yesterday, said the solution to the problem of power sector could be achieved in six months if the Distribution Companies, DISCOs, were ready to yield some percentages of their concessions to the state government.

Fashola made this statement at the commissioning of the 1.2 kilometer Glover Road and 8.5 megawatts, Peninsula Integrated Power Project, PIPP, Lekki, Eti-Osa Local Government Area.

taekwon:
The same man told us that every reasonable government should be able to provide power for it's citizenry within six months. why the stupid excuse. if you can't effect change then i suppose you should quit the position. FOOLS. Self centered idiots in a zoo country.

The government no longer owns the assets, when he made that statement, the government was still responsible for the power assets 100%. What exactly is stupid in what he's said? Why is reading so difficult for Nigerians?

ProAnti:
Let's for the sake of argument assume the private owners have been bad managers. What can we say of the government who is not just a part-owner in some of the companies but who in most cases fully own some of the key players?

The issues bedevilling the power sector can be solved by the private sector if and only if they get the backing of the government and the consumers.

We cannot put all the blame on the doorsteps of the private part-owners of the discos (and gencos) as the liquidity and other issues they face are substantial. As @Reference rightly inferred, government agencies and facilities are some of the biggest electricity debtors. I don't expect a disco staff to confidently disconnect a military installation for failing to pay electricity bills.

Of course a large part of the buck still remains in the hands of the government. The govt still owns TCN whose limited capacity is the reason we can't get over 5000mw even at the peak of the rainy season. A major problem which some of the GENCOs face is also lack of gas supply, which renders several functional turbines idle.

But finally, if we must be honest, the biggest impediment to reasonable power supply in Nigeria still remains the DISCOs. Can the govt really be blamed for the incapacity of the DISCOs?... Except we're calling on the government to start paying subsidies to DISCOs to improve their infrastrcuture and supply pre-paid meters to customers, I really don't see how government should be blamed for their incapacity.

daddytime:
But it was the FG's problem when GEJ was the President because solving Nigeria's power lacuna isn't a rocket science (in your own words).

Yeye people wey dey talk anything wey enter their mouth.

Dem say na where old man from dey till ground dey always soft pass for small pikin eye. E go say papa side soft that's why him dey fast pass me. When you give am papa side na dat time e go come know say block and blokos, difference dey.

aolawale025:
But fashola himself blamed the previous government. So this government deserves blame too. We can not shift the post after a goal

Under the last government, the power assets were still fully owned by the FG so yes, it wasn't out of place to fully blame the government then.

Those assets were sold off by the last government to private companies before Fashola came on board. So right now, Fashola is right about not having the powers, or not being responsible for how the private owners run their business.

As much as the typical judgmental Nigerian mind wouldn't have room to understand what she's said, what she has said makes sense.

igwefivestar:
this story is just a good example of fiction.

Actually a very poor attempt at fiction. Too many holes in the story.

Control7:
Good Morning All,

I need to seek advice from good people of Nairaland. A friend of mine was taken to UK some years back, all expenses paid by his Uncle, got a working permit. There was a misunderstanding between them, the Uncle seized his travelling document including Passport and was told to pay back all the money he used in bring him from Nigeria to UK (5 Million Naira) before he is going to release his document.

After my friend worked and payed, his Uncle just woke up one morning booked ticket to Nigeria for both of them saying they need to go home. As we speak my friend is back to Nigeria without anything and after paying the 5M, the uncle still didnt release his Travelling document.

Please I need advice, Can he apply for a replacement of both working permit and Passport, let's assume he was robbed and everything was taken away, though he has them snapped on his phone. This guy is already depressed.

His passport is a property of the Nigerian Immigration service, his UK work permit is the property of the UK government. If he has lost both, simply walk into a police station, declare the documents lost, go back to the immigration office, apply for a new passport and finally go to the UK embassy and apply for a replacement permit.

By the way, this super story is very poorly scripted. Is he a minor or a zombie that his uncle would just collect his documents from him even after paying N5million for them? Did his uncle charm him to get on the plane and return to Nigeria with him?... if the uncle siezed the documents in the UK, how then did he board the plane to return to Nigeria?

pauladonis:
The bottom line summarily is to Pay Tithes not because of fear of some curses in the Old Testament.

The bottom line summarily is to Pay Tithes not because of fear of some curses in the Old Testament.

The bottom line summarily is to Pay Tithes not because of fear of some curses in the Old Testament. The people of the Old Testament were so stiff necked that anytime Moses came with an instruction from God, he had to add curses for those that will surely disobey them. If we are not like them, gentiles or not, tithing is not optional for anyone who wants to fully activate the new covenant blessings in his/her life. As such, we should do it willingly and not because we don't want to be cursed. Like I said, It is a matter of personal encounter because you may not understand what God has told an individual personally (I know of several people who give more than anything he statutory 10%).


I'll advise that you get a copy of the book "Biblical keys to financial prosperity" by Kenneth Hagin.

You keep evading the very simple point and diverting to other issues bothering on the blessings of tithing. The point here isn't about the benefits of tithing, the issue here is how the sermon on tithing is being blatantly twisted (either deliberately or through negligence) by current day preachers.

All I'm trying to say is that there is no scriptural instruction or command that Christians should pay any particular percentage of their increase to a church, but we unfortunately still have a lot of preachers who teach this false message, telling believers that it a sin if they dont pay tithe. How can you not see anything wrong in this deliberate twisting of scripture from the pulpit?

FlirtyKaren:
A media company who said they want female corps members, has sparked an outrage with the way they rejected a male corps member deployed to their firm. 

The media company who rejected the male corps member over his gender, stated in their letter that they need 'two gorgeous female corps members, who they will receive with an open heart and a good heart'. 


https://lailasnews.com/how-this-media-company-said-they-want-female-corps-members-sparks-outrage/

There's nothing wrong with a media company saying they want 2 new female employees. But going forward to say 'gorgeous', that was quite audacious.

pauladonis:
Yes, as you have said, giving of tithe should be out of love, not because we fear God or because anyone forced us to. The Bible admonishes us to be coveteous of good works, tithing is a good work as such... Our pastors, prophets and evangelists these days are similar to the levites in that God doesn't allow them to have their own business, (at least my own pastors don't have their own business) and are right to receive tithes which is used to run the church.
Moreover, I believe that if God could give us His only begotten Son, and all the inheritance that comes with accepting Jesus for free, we shouldn't be forced to pay tithes to Him. The selfish nature of man however makes it difficult to accept this logic.

There are several Old Testament giving doctrines (e.g, doctrine of First Fruits) that some churches still follow and they reap bountiful blessings by doing so. These things become easier to practice for someone who understands it and has had a personal encounter with God.

Tithing is a good thing there's no doubt about that. But that is clearly not the point; the point is, 'did God command new covenant believers to always pay 10% of their earnings to him or risk eternal punishment'? Does that message have any scriptural backing?

The only scriptural reference to mandatory tithing was the Mosaic Laws which of course were fulfilled on the cross. Except one does not believe in Christ as the messiah or his sacrifice on the cross, new covenant believers, especially gentile believers were never subject to the Mosaic Laws. Even when the Pharisees tried to force down the Mosaic laws on gentile Christians, it was turned down by the apostles (read Acts 15:5-10). So why exactly are preachers of today clearly contradicting the stand of the original apostles by scaring Christians with the curses of the law over non-payment of a mandatory 10% of their income (i.e. malachi etc.)?... Isnt this what the pharisees were kniwn for which earned then rebuke from Christ severally?

Whatever happened to the teaching of Apostle Paul in 2Corr 9:7 where he taught gentile believers to give willingly whatever they chose in their hearts (as opposed to a specific percentage)? Does that no longer count as important?... Let us tell ourselves the truth, would Jesus really be happy watching today's preachers scare believers into paying tithes by threatening a potential financial crisis in their lives and eternal damnation?...

Foodforthought:
I don't even support any politician

But at least you dont have to raise false allegations and then curse others over a flawed allegation (whether they are pdp or apc supporters).

Try and get ur facts right.

Foodforthought:
May God punish all the Buhari supporters on this forum....
This one was also caused by Jona and PDP

Lol... hope you're aware that the so called N800 billion debt owed to marketers which is about to cause this crisis was debt incured pre-2015?, specifically in 2013/2014. Who was in power in 2013/2014?... and that was the period Nigeria made its highest income but instread of spending reasonably and clearing these debts, the money was being shared blindly with every idiot buying private jets. But we celebrated that lifestyle as 'economic progress'. Today you blame buhari for struggling to clear the debt?

Buhari in November 2015 already paid off about N500 billion part of the debts owed marketers pre-2015. Now the marketers are simply protesting why the remainder hasnt still been cleared to which the current govt is promising to pay a further about N236 billion in a week. These mess created by the last govt being cleared despite the over 70% less revenue. The marketers are asking for the full N800bn outstanding to be cleared this week, and that's the reason for this strike.

Ignorance Ignorance!!! If God should punish Buhari supporters, wetin God go do to GEJ and PDP supporters?

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/299954-why-nigerian-govt-owes-n800bn-debt-to-fuel-marketers-offers-n236bn.html

Naija! the forces holding this country down are very powerful. The only reason fuel scarcity happens every december is because some powerful opportunists make money out of it irrespective of the pain they put Nigerians through. Ordinarily, it would be a case of 'not enough fuel in stock'. This time, effort has been made to ensure there's enough stock, but marketers now want to go on strike 2 weeks before xmas?

Glink2018:
How Will a slowpoke comprehend?

You still speak in parables; you must think I'm one of your family members. God forbid!

Trizzi:
The Minister of Labour and Employment, Dr. Chris Ngige, on Sunday swore that “the man in Aso Rock” was President Muhammadu Buhari and not any impostor as being peddled by the opposition.

Ngige stated this in Obosi, Idemili North Local Government Area of Anambra State, while answering questions from journalists.

He said those who were insinuating that Buhari was Jubrin from Sudan were those who wished him dead.


Ngige said,

Source: https://www.mediahelm.com.ng/2018/12/the-man-in-aso-rock-is-buhari-ngige.html

If I didnt believe the rumours before, this statement from Ngige don spoil everything; that man in Aso Rock must be an impostor robot