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NwaEzefuNaMba:
who doesn't know Obailala as a resident Zom.bie here?

now, let's agree he was illegally suspended; was it the mace that suspended him?
why didn't he challenge the illegality in his suspension in law court?

some times I just wonder how you guys sleep with this kind a mindset.

First of all, back to sender with your zonbi compliment, I believe you must be referring to you family and generation. And then, before you go jumping about the forest, let's be clear; I only called out the flawed logic in your assertion that the presidency had a hand in the snatching of the mace and the injunction given by a court (judiciary) to prevent the senator from being arrested. The man was illegally suspended simply for airing his opinion which was contrary to senate leadership. He obviously doesn't need presidential approval to be angry over such oppression. And and then again, it is pointless to claim the presidency controls the judiciary ftom where hr was able to secure an injunction to prevent his arrest

"Was it the mace that suspended him?"
First of all, as an educated person, I expected you to at least have some comprehension skills. If you do, then endeavour to put it to use. At no time did I directly or indirectly allude that it was right to snatch the mace; I only clarified (since you chose to act ignorant of this) that snatching of the mace is just a form of protest intended to disrupt procredings, this also isnt the first time we are seeing this happen in that chamber.

Meanwhile, to answer your question, yes the senator challenged his suspension in court. If only you bothered reading, you should have read that in some of the reports on this case.

NwaEzefuNaMba:
You are just on of the very few shameless BMC recruits.
Now tell me on your own logic, what you understand from the whole drama that played out in the Hallowed Chamber.
Tell us why they decided to cart away only but the 'MACE'

Of many valuables in the chamber, it's only the mace that fit into their criminal activity.

So anybody that points out your daft logic must be BMC right?... Simple-mindedness!

A senator is illegally suspended from the chambers simply because he goes against Saraki's opinion but you do not think such a senator has a reason to feel angry enough to want to disrupt proceedings?.. and then the senator runs to the court to get an injunction against his arrest and according to your logic, buhari in london now controls the judiciary so the injunction was quickly granted. Clap for yourself!

NwaEzefuNaMba:
I told you people that OmO Agege has the backing of presidency!
Infact their initial plan was to steal the mace proceed and impeach The Senate President.

Apc knows their days in Aso rock villa are numbered so they are in disarray, playing all sorts of kids politricks.

#backtoduara2019

By your logic above, the presidency controls the judiciary while the NASS controls the police and DSs?

Everybody in Nigeria is a politician; politicians remember things are illegal only when it doesnt favour them.

This statement goes for both Sagay and the hordes of people who due to political sentiments, are blind to the simple political point Sagay tried to make.

Ikpewe:
omokri means brainless child in ibeno language.

Omokri means He-goat in Urhobo

Johnnyessence:
Reno Omokri will not kill somebody...says suspended senator Omo-Agege now behaving like an Agege tout. read his tweet below : https://www.pressnewsng.com.ng/2018/04/reno-omokri-will-not-kill-somebodysays.html?m=0

Coming from a person whose name is 'Omokri'

Abeg Warri people in the house, remind us of what Omokri means again...

mapet:
Bros,

My concern is not even these question you asked. My concern is the self-delusion and the blatant arrogance-laced ignorance that made him table this before a UN delegation

Politics is the answer; he was simply playing Nigerian brand of politics.

Esseite:
Them do una with lies?

So the thugs now drive a 2017 lexus GX Suv?
So yayi has no security protocol?
He entered a vehicle with opened doors?
He struggled with thugs to leave the vehicle?
He managed to escape at the carpark, same HOA premises?
If he was running away, are the same thugs not running to their vehicle aswell for him to find himself there?

You guys lie for the most absurd things. Its obvious it might have been an APC plan..

The report might not be true, but the analysis you gave above is empty.

- Even armed robbers do go on missions with the latest 2018 Range Rover or lexus; remember these guys were political thugs, not riff raff robbers.
- Protocol of senators cannot be around then 24-7, especially not when they're within the NASS complex.
- He surprisingly walked into a commotion and was scared and disoriented; that's what happens when u run into chaos. In his bid to escape, he blindly ran into the nearest 'big car' hoping to be safe there.
- There's nothing unusual about him struggling with the thugs after realising he walked into the wrong sanctuary
- He was obviously released by the thugs because he wasnt their target; they must have driven a few meters away, stopped and kicked him out.

MURIC! Never have I seen such jobless confused souls...

Nigeria has never really had a government, both at the state and federal levels. Wike asking the FG to come and do something, what exactly is the responsibility of the state government?... What exactly is the job role of the commissioner for environment in the state?

anowrite:
It has now become a custom for touts and thugs to demand money from rich people that wants to establish anything, be it house or business, popularly called "owk ile" without knowing its effect.

Mr Gbenga Samuel Wemimo, a Twitter user narrates how these touts stopped business owner, who established an hotel in their community and bought a transformer to help the community and his hotel, but was discouraged after they forcefully collected N100,000 as "Owk Ile" from him.

He wrote:
"Somewhere in Lagos, a man built a hotel on a street and brought a new transformer to help the street and his hotel business. Youths in the area then demanded he must pay N100,000 before it will be installed. That was how the transformer got connected to just his hotel."

Other twitter users also narrate their experience from the effect of this barbaric act.


https://www.gistrealm.com/twitter-user-narrates-how-thugs-prevent-rich-people-from-developing-their-community-after-demanding-owo-ile/

Without reading through this thread, I'm sure some people would defend the actions of the youths by claiming it's because the government made them jobless. Meanwhile this is a very rampant occurrence in the far southern axis of the country.

baby124:
They are not yet married! She is extremely foolish. Let the man marry her first before even making such a sacrifice. Imagine, all that time she moved and sacrificed the guy still did not think to marry her. He’s probably a guy that cannot even afford to get married or take care of a family but put pressure on the girl to relocate so that he can be having sex everyday at her expense. Rubbish and senseless love. If you want someone to sacrifice for you, be ready to move mountains for the person. Who does this guy think he is? And you call people like her greedy for going back. Very funny

Well, the word 'fiancee' was used, so I assumed they were preparing to get married. If that's really the case, then whether she relocated before the wedding or after the wedding, it doesnt matter.

Rubyventures:
For some families it is not an easy choice to make but sometimes it is better for the long run. I know a family who made that choice, the man stayed behind and the wife and 3 kids relocated to the UK . It wasn't only because of the money but they wanted good schools and secure environment for the kids. At the end of the day it depends on the understanding between the individuals involved. They visit during the six weeks long holiday. While the man is trying to set up his business in Nigeria, his kids have a better life in the UK. He has had to make a big sacrifice for this .

Yeah of course, different people have different preferences and life goals. I lived in London for some years and in my church then, I knew numerous ladies (some young and some old) who lived separately from their husbands; the case was always the same, the husband lives in Nigeria but the woman and kids live abroad. In some cases, the husband and some kids live in Nigeria and the woman and the remaining kids live abroad; and of course there's always the perpetual struggle with immigration to ship the remaining kids over.

Of course the intention is for a better life, or to 'give the kids the best', but that is where different opinions come in. In my opinion, I personally do not see how a family living separately for over a decade (from when the kids were toddlers to when they grow to adulthood) amounts to a better life for the kids. Some people are fortunate with the resources that the family could reunite several times a year, but many others arent that fortunate. For me as a man, as long as God permits, I wouldn't for any lure of 'better life', be separated from my family for any extended period (i.e. several years). But hey, this is just my opinion and preference.

Toks2008:
Everything is not about love dude...these days we must think deep and plan well...i have seen many guys relocating their wives and children abroad and many wives will not even mind their husbands going out for better life..who love epp?

Well, different strokes for different folks; different people have different life goals. I know a Benin couple who have been living separately for 8 years since their marriage because the woman lives in London and returning to Nigeria is never an option. Grace (their first daughter) is now about 7 and has never seen her father except in pictures. While the lure of 'abroad life' is of utmost importance to some (more important than family), it isnt the most important thing in life for others (I wouldnt let my wife out of my sight and touch for more than a year).

Toks2008:
First we are not sure if that sum is after tax but lets say about 30% is deducted we will be left with 1300

Accommodation 350
oyster travel card 100
Feeding 150
Misc 200
Total £800

She will be left with savings of £500 which is about N250k

So tell me if this is not better than the miserable 27k naija job

A lot of people on this thread dont get the point. The compatison isnt between the £20k UK job vs the N27k Nigerian job; the story here is about leaving her meagre UK job to return and be with her husband, heck! she might have not even had a job at all in Nigeria but what is wrong with a lady giving up her job which is 5000km away to come be with her family?

Viicfuntop:
To sum it up, what you are trying to say is that the lady was right to come back to Nigeria

To sum it up, there was absolutely nothing silly about the lady returning to Nigeria to be with her husband to be.

Viicfuntop:
Well she is not yet married to him, so it doesn’t count. I am not among those women who sees marriage as making it in life. Don’t misinterpret this. I have my priorities. One thing I am very confident about is that i don’t want to suffer in marriage. Two people can’t be broke in marriage.

If the story says 'fiancee', I would imagine a wedding may be around the corner. So when the wedding happens, what next? They live 5000km apart because 'living abroad' is more important than your home?... Anyway, I know several people who wouldnt mind that.

Martin0:
Nigerian will always remain Nigerian!

This lady got a different intention inside of her!

just imagine this?

Well all I can say is Nigerians are all scam, men and women are scam, nobody is exempted from my family, including me, we are all scam, infact that name Nigeria,should be changed to "scamneria"

How will you tell me u relocated to Nigeria, and you quit ur job too just for love?

This lady clearly got something else in mind...

juveniles and gullibles will believe her trust me!

I'm a bit confused whether this is just greed, poverty mentality or just the typical African inordinate ambition for living abroad. If not, what is wrong with a woman returning to Nigeria to be with her husband? I know several women who do that regularly.

Or are you expecting them to be married and living 5000km apart?... Anyway, I think every human reasons in a different way and has different priorities. I personally kniw a Benin couple that have lived apart for 8 years now since their marriage simply because the woman lives abroad and they both would rather the marriage continue like this for life than for the woman to return and be with her husband (who hasnt been able to secure visa). One man's meat is truly another man's poison.

Viicfuntop:
Don’t even start something this morning. Yes she earned that amount in the Uk monthly. At least it was enough for her. In Nigeria here, what can 27k do exactly. No tell me. Why is she then running back to spend that since she won’t be saving much? Please stop talking like you are smart because your comment doesn’t show it.

Which is more important, her minimum wage £20k job in the UK or her marriage/home?... Okay since her N27k job in Nigeria is pointless, why not sit at home or maybe start a business?

Several ladies leave similar paying jobs abroad to join husbands in Nigeria. I know a friend whom since she left her Barclay's job and relocated, still hasn't found a job 2 years after in Nigeria, she's just house wife, but she's happy being with her husband.

The comments I'm seeing in this thread though; is it poverty mentality or just greed?... How is the lady foolish for giving up her 5000km away job to be with her husband?... Which is more important, her minimum wage £20k job in the UK or her marriage/home?

Abeg what do the minister of finance and minister for budget and national planning respectively do to with N37b and N12b monthly?

The greatest tool of the downfall of man has always been congo.. See as old man squat abi na kneel down dey pray to kpekus...

derecho:
No one supports falsehood. This matter is simple.What law was it that Abraham followed when he tithed?Was it not voluntarily? Did you remember,one of the disciples that went with Paul to Jerusalem and he had to do something so the Jews would listen to him?
My point??
Giving to God is good and should be done cheerfully not grudgingly or of a necessity. There is no place in the new testament where tithing was abolished. Christ only said there are weightier matters of the Law.God spoke about somethings He doesn't want anymore eg vain oblations,incense etc but reminded them of robbing Him not only in Tithes but Offerings.
I personally feel there are things we Christians,
not churchgoers, shouldn't argue about.Why begrudge people who feel about tithing apart from offering? Is this the revival we are longing for? How many times have decided to bombard nairaland with The Message of the Cross instead we tear ourselves on trivial issues.If only we use this same fervour to Declare JESUS IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE and talk about salvation....

Do you agree with me that one of the greatest issue that brings mockery to the church in Nigeria is the inordinate focus on financial gain?

Abraham tithed willingly, Jacob tithed willingly, they were never under any compulsion or commandment to do so. Of course there's nowhere in the new testament where 'freely' giving a tithe was abolished; but rather, what was abolished following Christ's sacrifice on the cross was the mandatory requirement for believers to tithe regularly in order to please God. This message is very clearly documented in the new testament, there is no longer a curse which follows a person who for whatever reason, does not give a tenth. So why does the church in 2018 now blatantly go contrary to this clear message preached by the Apostles?

Can you not see that this issue of preaching mandatory tithing, not only is it depriving believers of their blessings they would have gained if they gave freely, it is also one of the biggest magnets of mockery to the church especially as its an issue which concerns money?...

What is wrong if the church simply just teaches the truth as it is in the bible?... Will God no longer provide for His church if pastors preach the truth about this controversial topic?... Recently, pastor Sam Adeyemi of Daystar mentioned that the mandatory tithing law and the curses attached to non-tithing as was written in Malachi does not apply to new covenant believer; he further went ahead to mention that if you tithe however, there are blessings tied to it. By speaking the simple truth, do you think that would prevent any if his tithing members to quit?... Absolute NO! So why is the truth too difficult for some really big ministers to preach?... Can't ypu see how that is the real deal bringing mockery to the church?

derecho:
So tithe is unbearable? My brother, if you ain't convinced does it mean it's wrong?What is wrong with giving to God?
You guys are just making a fuss about TITHES,When in fact GOD REFERRED TO TITHES AND OFFERINGS.
For your info Tithing predates the Mosaic Law.What the bible enjoins is cheerfulness and not grudgingly or of a necessity.
I wonder the noise about this stuff.Those of us who read scriptures know itz scriptural.Christ as Melchizedek accepted, He spoke about it too in the new testament only that we should not ignore weightier matters of the Law.
Giving Tithes and Offerings doesn't qualify one for heaven but if God is blessing you,Honoring Him with your substance,money inclusive,is scriptural.
Finally, All Scriptures is given by inspiration and it's profitable for doctrine.... That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto ALL good works.
Just one question, what is wrong in giving to God?.

My brother, there is nothing wrong with giving to God, but there is everything wrong with preaching falsehood to coerce people to give. I will repeat this again for emphasis, there is everything good about giving to God. But when Apostle Paul in the book of 2Corinthians 9:7 taught the new believers about giving, he made it very clear that they were bound by no law to give any specific amount or percentage.

You asked if tithing was unbearable - Apostle Peter in the book of Acts 15:5-10 was referring to the entire Mosaic Laws as unbearable; tithing was just 1 very little part of it.

You said tithing predates the Mosaic Laws - You are very right about that, but every other tithing which took place in the scriptures were voluntary; the Mosaic Law concerning tithing was the only form of tithing which was mandatory and which had grave consequences if broken (i.e. Malachi 3:8-10).

Under the new covenant, the bible made it VERY VERY clear that new covenant believers are no longer bound by the MANDATORY Mosaic laws, of which tithing according to Malachi 3:8-10 was a part.

So the question I ask is, if the Apostles who started the church through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit preached to the people that they are no longer under any mandatory requirements to tithe or comply by numerous other unbearable Mosaic laws, why then are pastors in the world over 2000 years later now preaching that tithing is mandatory for a believer to make heaven?... Cant you see the falsehood and dishonesty in that?... If you arent worried about pastors telling an obvious lie to raise money by threatening believers with a condemnation to hell, then that's really worrisome.

Summary of my message is simple, it is good to give to the church as the church needs money for its operation. But it's evil to preach that God requires new covenant believers to give a certain percentage of their income in order to make heaven; that was exactly what the Pharisees tried do in Acts 15:5-10 but Apostle Peter shot them down.

Do you know how many believers today are made to lose their blessings daily simply because they give out of fear of condemnation instead of out of love?

In fact, go and read the entire Galatians 13, and you will realise that anyone who still tries to uphold the Mosaic Laws is basically living under a curse which Christ already saved us from by being nailed to the cross; you are basically denying Christ as the messiah.

ITbomb:
In the name of Christianity

Start from 2:40 mins

Summary
According to Malachi, when you don't pay tithe, you are robbing God, that makes you a thief

People who don't pay tithes are thieves and thieves will not enter heaven

Christian ministers in 2018 should be very careful not to test God. Any pastor threatening non-Jewish Christian believers (Gentiles) with the book of Malachi 3 is simply testing God's patience and should be wary of God's wrath... Kindly go and enlighten yourself with Acts 15:10 and repent

Acts 15:10
10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

Pastors in 2018 have placed themselves greater than Apostle Peter (Jesus' favourite) who stood his ground in the Church council against the Pharisees and refused that the Laws of Moses (Malachi etc) be extended to Gentile believers - Acts 15:5-10

Pastors in 2018 have also now placed themselves greater than Apostle Paul (the most prolific Apostle) who instructed that new covenant believers should never be coerced to give any mandatory percentage, but rather should give freely, whatever they decided in their hearts - 2 Corinthians 9:7

What we see in the church today is truly a scary development. Christian ministers now contradicting the teachings of the Apostles on a daily basis and relying on personal visions which clearly contradicts God's word in the bible. The devil has truly infilterated the church. May God save us all!

We're truly at the end times. There're plenty churches I would have expected this from, this is quite disappointing coming from RCCG. The next move by these Nigerian churches would soon be to rewrite or update the bible; cos it seems like the immortal words in the bible are now a stumbling block to their man-made doctrines. They now rely solely on personal visions and revelations from wherever as their sole guide to supersede what's written in the bible. The messages they get from their visions now contradicts and supersedes the messages preached by the early Apostles who walked the earth with Jesus.

Lord have mercy on this our generation!

Iolo:
It appears Discos are having serious challenges with load rejection.

Sometimes I just wonder if the best thing to do is to repossess the DISCOS from the unserious private owners who only care about giving estimated bills and rejecting power.

EZENDIZUOGU:
MAKA ODINAMA NDI IMO

Obiareri?.. and you want us to vote for such a person?

zegxy:
Who is Sowore ? Very funny, was it Sowore that helped eject Jonathan out of office? I dey laugh in swali. Sowore does not have any politiucal relevance to eject GEJ out of office. Why are you over rating Sowore? Forces/Factors that sent GEJ packing out of office are:
i. OBJ turning his back on GEJ/PDP
ii. The corruption label the opposition party tagged on GEJ administration.
iii. Boko Haram issue
iv.

The numerous corruption cases which characterised GEJ's (and even OBJ's) administration, who exactly did all the investigative journalism and brought those stories to public knowledge?... Lai Mohammed right?

sowore2019:
Can you provide the links of where he supported Buhari?

Anybody that wasnt supporting GEJ and sucking his poo was automatically supporting Buhari...

She had already bagged her Bachelors and MSc by 2012 when she was just 19/20?... wow!

olowolekana:
Baba Adeboye is spot on. The Bible is a living word of God. It's clear that anyone who fails to pay tithes and offerings won't go to Heaven. The word of God is clear. If you need any clarification, seek God.

Where exactly in the bible?... Give me 1 verse and I will give you 10 verses to prove that you are wrong. By the way, a most simple way to seek God as you advised is through his word in the bible, so please let's focus on the bible only and not some 'dream' or 'vision' or some 'revelation' seen by one person in 2018.