₦airaland Forum

1miccza:
So he is expected to source a sum as huge as 23million dollars for a foreign trip right?? If that is not an accusation then what is... You,speaking this big grammar do you fly out of the country with such an amount considering the current exchange rate??Even if u are to travel to a hundred countries??What exactly is wrong with all you partisan folks,has APC and PDP hypnotized all of you??

First of all, the person who made the tweet did not reveal any form of evidence to back his claim. For all I care, it could just be a foolish fabrication by a drunk man holding a smart phone. If I wake up today and say, Jonathan stole $20billion cash from CBN, I would be as silly as the people who believe it even without presenting any single evidence to back my claim.

Secondly, the tweet did not say $23m was withdrawn for 1 trip.

Sctests:
does your buhari believe that easterners are free to vote their candidate. I lost in the 2015, you and your buhari have been losing since 1999, even though he has no blueprint to fix issues. Go take several sits.

Supporting whichever candidate you want is your right, and you are exercising it. And Oh yes, Buhari has been losing since 2003 but has finally won in 2015. While I sit back, sip and chill, I expect you to also take several seats behind cos elections are long gone.

1miccza:
As usual PDP opposers would accuse them and we would ignore such a huge accusation that should be investigated,let's'look beyond partisanship and save this already drowning economy...

What exactly is the accusation here?..... Buhari as the president of Nigeria is going on a foreign work related trip, is he expected to source his forex from the abokis selling dollar under that flyover?.... i'm keen to know what exactly is the accusation here.

ajepako:
And that so called 80% is just one state shey?

Omo ilala, koju e sookan jare...

Flets:
You are a worse illiterate trying to justify rubbish.

In other words, he meant only 20% of the 27 states are APC..... and you are trying to justify only 5 of the 27 states are APC when you can already count over ten from the listed states.

Go collect your brain from lie mohammed....

menix:
An adult like you failing simple arithmetic, make sure u marry a brilliant woman else ur kids go be "ETI"..

Do u know that 80% of 10(state) is 8

So oga Eti, go back nd check ow many states there belong to APC nd PDP..

Hahaha... The dude who quoted the 80% figure was only passing a simple message across. The use of the 80% figure was simply a hyperbolic estimation; we aren't in a primary 4 maths class where you expect people to start counting numbers and calculating precise fractions - it is assumed that people responding here are at least adults or older teenagers. The message passed was simply that "contrary to the stories making the rounds about APC failed states scrambling for bailout funds, MOST of the states that were bailed out were even PDP states."

If you guys were not overwhelmed by your political emotions, you should have gotten the very simply message. But instead, you all began counting number of apc states in the list.

Sctests:
Like I told obailala few minutes ago. No amount of blackmail can make the SE/SS vote regret washing their hands off that illiterate at the polls.
Conduct another polls again if PMB scores up to 1% in the east, he should consider himself very fortunate.

Once again, nobody is asking you to vote for anybody, it's a free world and everybody reserves a right to support whichever candidate they adjudge to be the lesser evil. You chose GEJ, I chose Buhari, I won you lost. By the way, remember the election has since been won and lost?... With your vote or without your vote, the winner has since emerged. Happy Easter!

Sctests:
This APC man is here with his usual propanganda. The best political decision the SE has ever taken is refusing to vote your hateful and divisive daura lord. The SS and SE will still tell him to go hell if the polls come again tommorow. At least they can beat their chest and say they were not a party to the 'chains' scam currently foisted on nigeria today.

Stop your useless blackmail this impostor, it won't work on the East it has NEVER worked!

Next time if you want the East to vote and support a northern you will field a person devoid of hate and divisive tendencies not a crass blood thirsty, illiterate dullard.
Afterall they voted Shagari and yar adua who were perfect gentlemen. PMB no work.

Nobody is asking you to vote for anybody, it's a free world and everybody reserves a right to support whichever candidate they adjudge to be the lesser evil. You chose GEJ, I chose Buhari, I won you lost. By the way, remember the election has since been won and lost?... With your vote or without your vote, the winner has since emerged..

My comment which you quoted above was simply to exhibit the folly of some folks who were spreading falsehood to deceive their own kinsmen into voting for a failed candidate. Whoever you choose to vote is your choice and your inalienable right, but to come and tell me or anyone else that a road which is still in a deplorable/horrid state is 'very good' all in a bid to sway votes, that is not just evil but it's also foolishness.

A lot of bitter frustrated souls already foaming in the mouth and throwing jabs at Rochas simply because he attended a wedding ceremony. A word of advice to some of these wailers from the SE, get a life!

menix:
Edo, Osun, Oyo, katsina, Imo, Ogun,sokoto, kebbi, plateau nd others re PDP states

Truly, Hunger bad cous it is affecting ur mendula.

ajepako:
And where would you categorise Osun, Oyo, lmo ,Edo , Zamafar, kogi, kebbi among several hardship-ravaged APC states?

Convenient amnesia and selective reasoning kill you know.....

christinie:
Edo, Niger, Kogi, Ogun, Osun, Oyo etc are PDP states?

Flets:
Typical of illiterates with data plan.

Osun, Oyo, lmo ,Edo , Zamafara, kogi, kebbi, Niger etc are PDP states too?

Shortyy:
Don't mind that ignoramus. He saw only ekiti.. mtcheeew

The person you all quoted clearly said [size=13pt]80%[/size] of those who received bailout, he didn't say 100%. What could possibly make adults not understand the the difference between 80% and 100%?.... Someone (@Flet) even went ahead and called him an 'illiterate' and then one just begins to wonder what sort of intellectual calamity has befallen Nigerian youths.

cc: HungerBAD

How did the Op know the man was begging for money?.... Was he begging every motorist that passed?.... has anyone else seen this man begging before?.... could it just be a man profusely begging someone he knows for a life saving favour?

mavinc4u:
You are not sensible that was why I asked you to close your mouth. Don't mind me but you are brainless.

Mrs sensible, continue to display your sense.

neocortex:
Stop spewing trash, anything is possible with political backroom deals.
Don't pretend to be ignorant of such.

What a foolish statement from you.

Lol.. you only believe what you want to believe, no matter how silly. I can already feel you struggling to validate a rumour all because it favours your political narrative. Continue!

mavinc4u:
Close your mouth for once.

Use that thing in your skull for once. To whom brain is given, sense is expected.

mavinc4u:
My dear leave him; he is innocent and we are Vincent.

Imagine the nonsense. Buying dollar at 185 and reselling at 360 plus.

Official price of dollar is 197-199. It is silly for anyone to think CBN sells dollars to anyone at N185 in 2016. Unfortunately, the handler of the pdp account knows most Nigerians are empty skulls.

When last did CBN sell dollars at an official rate of N184?

The imbeciles handling the pdp twitter handle must think Nigerians are fools. Or maybe not, the person handling the account actually knows a lot of Nigerians are empty skulls especially judging by most of the comments here already.

Dharniel:
I have no intention of boring you with no epistle neither am I seeking attention. I just want to view people's different opinions on a decision I took a few days ago.
There's a colleague in my place of work who is a pastor (not full time). he uses a small Nokia phone while I use an infinix hot 2 together with a small itel. The colleague came to me asking if I could exchange my itel with his Nokia phone reason because the itel phone has internet connectivity while the Nokia phone only has torch light. He claims he hasn't been online for a couple of months, in summary he just want to surf the net. I, being so generous and simple thought to myself, I do have a better one I browse with, so I decided to do the exchange. few weeks later, he was ready to return my phone, he told me but I wasn't with his phone so I told him I would bring it the following day.
Fast forward to the next day, I got to the office before him, and on sighting him I remembered I wasn't with his phone, right there I made a U turn without him seeing me, I went back home to get his phone and rushed back to the office. After the first quarter of the day, he came to my office only for him to explain how the phone got stolen the previous day where he went to charge (I blame PHCN for that). Then he asked me, what should we do. I got so dumbfounded and confused, I thought for a while and decided to let go. I gave him his phone and told him to forget about the idea of getting me a new phone, cuz it seems to me like revenge.
on getting home, I explained everything to my mom only for her to shade me and lambast my action. she said I acted so foolishly and made my consciousness sour. now please Nigerians, have I acted in a kind manner like my conscience tells me or foolishly as my mom said?

I'm still not sure if his "pastorial calling" influenced my decision or not.

An act of kindness, especially when you can afford it, can never be foolishness.

lomprico:
Its not about pdp or apc. Its a northern islamic agenda!

Dont deceive yourself, as much as I agree there is a major problem of the northern islamic agenda which has been there since time immemorial, but this sudden and most of the recent campaigns of calumny is purely driven by politics of GEJ.

Oxenomy:
The earlier you guys understand that Nigeria is a zoo, the better for us. What pains most is that you won't see sabo Igbos like obailala and co on this kind of thread

Bro, if this is your subtle way of saying I should have voted for a proven clueless and ineffectual leader, then I'm sorry, try again.

rhymaster:
Sore loser IPOB (ibo 5%)! Chai, these little 5% kids never fail to display their true hatred for anything Buhari, APC of the rest of Nigeria! There's a photo of Buhari wearing a suit, playing with his grandson and of course not wearing a hat, the hateful IPOBs cannot and will not see that. If he wants to hide anything regarding his hair, he would have done it during that same campaign. After being elected, there is a photo of him in Saudi Arabia praying wearing a piece of white cloth wrapped around him and with no hat, posted most likely by his photographer or official media aide, Ibos cannot see that. See how hatred causes people to lose all common sense?

Why would Buhari, an already accomplished man at 73 be ashamed of a balding hair when men who are only 30 years or less, some not even married or dating are already bald or balding almost completely? Some of these have no jobs nor accomplished anything yet but they are bald! Kanu is a 40+ year old man, he is a washed-up failure in prison and would most likely be convicted of treason and executed, never achieving anything in his life but he is BALD! Why do Ibos have this much hatred for anyone? What is the use of GEJs hair that could not help him from losing an election or being such an "ineffectual Buffon" of a president who failed practically and left shamefully? Ibos can wail till they are blue in the face but I don't see how any part of Nigeria will ever trust them as dog catcher never mind being president!!

Bros you get time oo. .. how can you expend so much energy typing such a looong response to some silly statements by faceless losers?... For silly threads like this, you should just taunt the wailers and move on else na you go tire.

Mboi:
I don't k how much they pay you to be defending them blindly. The reason why this country is not moving forward is because of people like you. The reason why the youths don't have a place in Nigerian govt is because of people like you. They paid you to come here and confuse people with things that don't exist. The first time Audu Ogbe mentioned grass importation, he said it will stop Fulani herdsmen from invading people's farms in search of food for their cows. People reacted against if, now they have changed it that it will increase milk production just to deceive Nigerians. Don't think you can deceive everybody here with those useless points you raised there, you talked about things that don't exist and you know it.
Talking of being a looser, PDP and APC, who is a looser in Nigeria today or do u think the game ended at the polls? The masses make the govt work, when a govt comes up with a policy that does not go well with the masses, they'll protest against it by any form or means available to them and the govt will sit up,change what ever policy or stop it. Here the reverse is the case. Anytime this govt goes against the people's wish, people like you will accept money from them, come here to attack anybody that says against such bad move by the govt and that is why Buhari and APC think they can do anything and Nigerians cannot do anything.

The points I made and the points Audu Ogbeh made are very simple and clear for any person with the most basic education to understand; it is bot rocket science and at least, I believe we all did a little of agric science in high school. There are several things to gain from the initiative which includes a boost in beef and milk production and in addition, with the plan to have cattle restricted to the grass reserves, cattle herders wouldnt have to move their cows around in search of pasture and this would help avoid the recurrent clashes between the herdsmen and farmers. What on earth is so difficult to underatand in this most basic explanation?

Now the real reason why Nigeria isnt moving forward is because of people that you who have instead of applying some common sense and focus to discern a very simple initiative like this, you have emotionally chosen to only view and judge everything in this life from the microscopic prism of political/ethnic/tribal/religious sentiments. That is the exact reason the black man is backwards and that is the exact reason the older generation has refused to relinquish power to the youths; the youths exemplified by your manner of reasoning have clearly not shown any sigm that we are ready to take over.... we choose to dwell purely on emotions and refuse to use our God given intellects.

For the records, I am not a card carrying member of any political party (even though I have my leanings to the apc strictly because of Buhari and my disgust for what pdp has done to this country for 16 years). I dont personally know any politician and I am not even resident in Nigeria. I am just a concerned Nigerian who gets irked by the reasoning of people I encounter on social media everyday. For crying out loud, what on earth is so difficult for educated people to understand in this simple initiative?... why do we always see everything as a ground to make political arguments?

Chaii... my sweet elohor... husband has taken her away ... chaii!

ManTiger:
We both understand how this will end just.
But my point is; this shouldn't be a priority for now. I later apologised for using an uncouth word, probably I apologised to the wrong person I quoted. My apologies, just having not so good day.

I beg to differ, every single thing which can boost agriculture in Nigeria today is a very high priority. I dont need to remind you that it is only agriculture and solid minerals developmnet that can save us from the present travails of low oil price. This is something that should have been done a very long time ago but it's never too late to start.

Princewill1:
This argurment is faulty.No explanation can justify the importation of grass at this period of time in Nigeria.Are you aware that there is shortage of forex in Nigeria? Which is presently causing the economic problems we are having today.

So we should use the little forex left to import grass for cows,instead of to import essential and stable food like rice for humans?

Is like this fulani govt values the lives of cattle more than the lives of human? (Agatu massacre also comes to mind).

By the way,the milk issue you are talking about is a long term project.Is not like if you feed the cattle with imported grass today,then tomorrow they will start producing quantity milk that will serve the milk need of Nigeria.It will take years to develop.The milk production industry in Europe that we are importing from were not developed overnight.

We have emergency economic situation at hand right now,we can't afford to waste the scarce forex we have.They govt should come to the south to take grass to the north.

We have to spend our little forex based on our scale of preference,unless if this govt values cattle more than humans inhabiting the country.

There is nothing faulty about the argument, it does not make sense to re-invent the wheel. The grass seedlings being imported are 'raw materials' meant to be used for planting/production and which in turn would boost beef and milk production. There is nothing faulty about importing raw materials to be used for production, especially when it would be a one-off (we would be growing the grasses in Nigeria going forward).

Man must not live by bread (food) alone, we cannot continue to be consumers and never producers. Your suggestion to import rice (food) instead amounts to giving someone fish instead of teaching him to fish (that is never a wise option).

By mentioning Fulani and Agatu, you have simply drifted away from the topic into politics, quit being emotional and get yourself focused; not everything in life should be viewed from the political/ethnic/religious perspective, this is common sense. It isn't about patronising fulani cattle rearers nor about fulani presidency, it is simply a commonsensical move to increase Nigeria's food (beef and milk) production.

You talk of the increase in milk production not taking a day, oh yes, it is not a days job, but it will never be achieved if it's never started. By the way, nobody ever said it takes a day.

Finally, importing improved seedlings (raw material) to boost our local production of food can never be a waste of forex. Isn't it ironical that you support the importation of rice for consumption but you are against the importation of improved grass seedlings for planting?

Obviously, most people criticising this plan are driven by political emotions and sentiments. But FYI, even the rice revolution celebrate today in Nigeria as started by the immediate past agric minister, improved rice seedlings (flood resistant) were imported and planted to support the revolution. There is nothing wrong in acquiring and planting improved seedlings, that's what agricultural science is all about.

JealousPrince:
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Oga go and sit down.

I am sitting down presently. Next...

ManTiger:
So they will import grass, refrigerate it so as not to withered and start selling it to the abokis abi? , i'm not sorry to say this, you be mumu.

Everyone knew Obj was about to scam us when he proposed his satellite idea, 8 months after its launching, they claim it disappear.

I dey look GEJ mouth when he was saying SURE-P will cushion the effect of pms subsidy removal, I only pity those idiats I see in their lagos office, 4yrs after, Babangida Aliyu said SURE-P was fraud which is obviously true.

We don't say they shouldn't steal, afterall "stealing is not corruption" but if they must ten they should come up with convincing ideas, not like importing grass! Who will buy it? The industry is not even controlled by anyone, com'on use your brain!

Every single time you try to insult people you do not know, first take a look at yourself in the mirror. The agriculturists involved in this are not iidiots.

If only you can use your God given brains and at least just read the freaking article, you wouldn't be here dancing ignorantly in public. Even if you couldn't read the long article, you could have at least read by short explanation but you were too intellectually handicapped to do that; you just wanted to respond before even reading.

FYI, special grass seedlings are being imported to be planted and grown in Nigeria; the imported grass isn't meant for eating, it is meant to be planted and produced in Nigeria.

Pidggin:
Okay, i want to know why they can't just import samples and then modify them, why spend millions importing, instead of bringing in samples

No, that would amount to re-inventing the wheel, there's no smart way out of this. Genetically modifying crop seedlings isn't something which is done in days, it takes years and even decades. Go ask a typical crop scientist.

Mboi:
That is the problem we have, a lot of dead brains like you all over Nigeria. Knowing how to read and write is not wisdom. The old SSCE holder u voted knows even if your parents send u to University, you'll still reason like a pupil. It's only a clueless and insensitive unrepentant old man that they made a President that will leave the pressing issues in his country and be cooking up stories and reasons so he can import grasses for his cows. Zombie will always be Zombie.

Bro, I'm not in the mood to exchange words back and forth with your type. The issue being discussed on this thread is meant for serious brains not bitter emotional political losers. Thanks.

stevedre:
You made some good points which I must say are valid. I am not a nutritionist but I would suggest we import what the Brazilians used in multiplying the nutrients in their grass rather than importing the grass. When Malaysia took our palm oil ideas they went for our Palm fruits not our Palm trees so how about importing chemicals or fertilizers that will multiply and enrich the grasses wasting in the south then move most to the north thereby creating jobs and helping our economy to grow instead of importing grass which I know will be left to dry if care is not taking due to corruption in high places. I would like you to correct me if I am wrong, thanks.

Genetically modifying crop seedlings isn't a days job, it could even take several years or even decades. If you go back and read the article, the writer made a point ,"why should we re-invent the wheel?"... The simplest and most sensible thing to do under such circumstances is to take already improved seedlings (raw materials) and plant them in your country; that is what serious nations do, and that is what crop science is all about.

kenchylala:
What happened to planning How long does it tk for grass to grow? How long would it tk to import grass n grow some for urself n channel d cash too something else?

I dont think I understand your question, but the plan by the agric ministry is simply to import very high nutrient hybrid grass seedlings which would henceforth be grown in Nigeria; the imported grass isn't for consumption but rather for planting. Contrary to what many respondents on this thread think, GRASS IS NOT GRASS.

HEIR:
uncle, you've not made your point clear. I dont see the need for such long article in the first place. WE ARE IMPORTING PREMIUM GRASS SEEDLINGS. Full stop!
Which can be argued and won't affect our forex in any way. Even you can gift it out as an 'APC' chieftain concern. Just say its your quota to national growth.
Trust me, there are several variants of fresh grass down south. Just a few reserve in cross river can feed all the cows in Nigeria four times over.
For me seedings that can survive in the north yes, grass NO.

Yeah, the point is very simple, they plan to import high nutrient grass seedlings for planting in reserves, the grasses are not being imported for direct consumption and the importation would be a noe-off. These high nutrient feedstock have the capacity to greatly improve beef and milk production and in addition, the plan to restrict movement of the cattle from place to place would also help to produce more healthy and fatter cows (more beef).

teemy:
Actually I do not blame them but rather the ministry that has not made it a point of import to carry the people along and rebutt the misinformation early. By now every ministry should have a nairaland moniker to give true official stories and until they do proper online policies the media would have a field day with misrepresenting facts as well as doling out half truths.

Yeah I totally agree with you. The level of poor information dissemination in the country, especially with the explosion of social media today is truly disturbing. I find it strange than majority of the reports on this continuously come up with misleading titles about "importing grass for consumption." A lot of respondents actually have no idea that the grass is being imported for planting.