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earthrealm:
His 1.5kva system is 12v....no way it can run the pump. @12v..he wud need about 55amps...assuming the pump can even accept 12v.

@ fan, was told its something going bad in the fan.will get worse with time till the fan fails.

his going to use a ac to dc converter to achieve the 48v not running direct on the battery (this way he uses his normal ac output from the inverter to pump the water)

earthrealm:
Yes, thats the specs am talking about.
Only thing i dont understand is 600w and 1.5hp tag.
1.5hp is about 1kw...hence the 600w tag is confusing.the flowrate is healthy, though i expected much more.. 1m³/h is about 16liters per minute..that is about 1000liters per hour

this is the power the pump will consume while working.
using 48v dc as input, you will need 13a to run this pump.....
you can always twerk it to get good result

so technically, his 1.5kva system can run the pump



aside that, who has experience with solar ceiling fan moving the other direction when is about to start
until you push in the right direction before its able to rotate properly

earthrealm:
osayuwamwen:

thats maybe an inelegant way of solving a problem, throwing high hp at an issue. recall his major constraint was power- using his inverter to pump water. a 1.5hp sumo would require minimum of 4kw inverter to power it. unless its a dc sumo...then he would require minimum 2kw of panels to have a chance at it working ok.

any sumo has a ''head' as you rightly pointed out, this is written on the spec sheet of any decent submersible pump...and tells you the depth and flowrate of the pump. so a pump with a head of 200ft will work ok, be it 0.2hp or 10hp.....the 2nd consideration now becomes the flowrate, a 10hp might have a 100liter/minute flowrate while a 0.2hp pump might have a 20liter/minute flowrate.............so you then calculate your water tank capacity and usage to arrive at the hp that is optimal for your use case.

the inverter sumo i talked about has a head of 210ft/70meters and flowrate of 35liters/minute...and its being deployed for a single house with 2000liter overhead tank. works ok for that use case. deploying a 1.5hp pump there may deliver water faster, but would be useless as they just have a 1.5kva inverter which cant power it and totally offgrid

1.5hp is the power of the dc pumping machine.
this pumps comes in various design ranging from 48v upto 120v dc (the amperage vary).
a 1.5hp might 48v 10a
i attached a photo

osayuwamwen:
How do I know the Depth am using 1.5hp pump

you need to know the depth of your borehole( its referred to as well head depth on the pump) then compare it

osayuwamwen:
Pls do you have idea abt the cost of 0.33hp and will it be efficient enough to pump for 3 tank of 1500 liters each?

buy high hp.
around 1.5hp should fill those tanks within 3hrs....
another thing you need to take note of is the depth of the bore hole

most pumps has a depth dey cant pump beyond

osayuwamwen:
What is psu?

Power supply unit

osayuwamwen:
I already have a 12v solar inverter of 1.5kva, I'm planning to change my submersible pump to a solar pump instead of upgrading my solar system to bigger size, buy a solar pump will be cheaper than upgrading my solar inverter system, my question is can my 12v 1.5kva inverter power a solar pump if maybe connected as AC to my setup

yes it can.
get a PSU that can produce the needed current and voltage need to run the pump.

it should work fine.

thatsleepboy1:
I dey okay. Wetin sup?

You Don reach here

thatsleepboy1:
I'm happy I came across this thread. After my degree I plan on joining the DSS or doing a shipping job. May Jehovah be my guide in Jesus name. Amen.

Alaye how far

obitobe:
in this case all series is your best bet. I hope the Inverter is not Ipowerx Max.

Why can't i go less.
Probably 3s2p

earthrealm:
strange panels you hv got there 64v voc.....and 380w.. curious to know the make. have you rechecked this specs with a meter?.

since u say u hv a hybrid, only option is a series connection.

Exulted eagles 380w panels

Valto:
if your inverter mppt is the high pv type, then u should series all. if not 2s3p is the best.

Inverter can take upto 450v dc

Attention please I need your opinion.

In a recent installation I embarked on, I was having thoughts on Which configuration is best for a hybrid inverter system.
(3kva 24v)

Voc of the panel is 64v, 7amps
No. Of solar panels is 6pcs of 380w panels all connected in series (output voltage is 360+) charging a 24v 100ah lithium battery

Vs

2s3p (output voltage is 120+) charging same 24v 100ah lithium battery.

This system has a continuous load of almost 700w in total.

Which panel configuration is best

Thanos:
Hi,

So after seeing shege by buying over 40k fuel every month for the past 5 months. I've humbled myself.

I need a solar inverter system to power my laptop. Just my laptop. Unfortunately, its a 170watt rated laptop so its quite the power guzzler. So key things I need to point out:

1- it's just for my laptop, not the whole house. So like a DC connection to a power outlet/extension is what I'm looking at as a start
2- I want to be able to charge it with Gen/Nepa/Solar
3-It should be expandable. So I can add additional battery and eventually modify it to power the house in the long run.

Location:lagos
Budget: #200 - 300k.
Time line : 30 days.

Your advice/recommendations would be appreciated.

Let me arrange an estimate with a budget of 250k

100A battery @ 75k
250W solar panel @60k
1000w PSW satchet inverter @ 40k
40a pwm Controller @23k
Wire @ 18k
10A smart charger @ 20k
Workmanship @ 17k

This will do.

You should have back up of 2hr50mins with the load you mentioned.

Let me speak for the hookers .
First thing first, it was not like this people woke up 1 day and started the business.
Circumstances and situations lead them into it(check well this people where exposed to sex for cash at a tender age)

Before you condemn this people, you need to live/stay with them. You will understand that this people at some point have thought of getting out.

They understand that even if they leave the trade, people will never give them the regard they deserve.

Why do you think when they finally plan on settling down, they go to places where people know nothing about them?

Then this topic was talking about how the men dey get erection. Na Wetin I wan hear leave this hookers alone.

How do I get group link

zeestone99:
Vill power is Chinese. Is there another one in d market? I mean Indian brand vil power

Vil power and vill power are they the same?

Vil power is now vil Lucas (I think the management changed)

Even if vil power is Chinese, it is owned by a Nigerian, so you have access to replacement parts (the idea of avoiding Chinese inverters is because of the maintainance /after service)

peterpeteru:
Thanks again boss.
How can I identify India branded inverters, by the 'made in India' tag?

yeah.
You can ask the seller too.

bassdow:
shebi when I dey talk, marketers go dey tackle me.

e just be like buying an All-in-One Desktop PC, or buying TV wey get inbuilt DVD player,
1. you can't acertain quality or true capacity of the other
2. should 1 go bad, the other automatically becomes unAvailable/bad
3. should you have reasons for upgrade, you're forced to upGrade them both
4. if at end of the day, you decides to abandon the inBuilt, in favour of a dedicated one, you would have wasted the money spent on it
5. during repairs or purchase, you're charged way more than the 1 + 1 e.g seperately, they cost 5 naira and 3 naira, making 8 naira, don't expect to pay 8 naira. you might be paying anywhere from 10-naira and above. if e get wahala nko, you are charged for repair of both, even when it's just one of them that's faulty. yes if you price the inBuilt seperately in market, e go look like say e cheap BUT no forget that one complete, the one wey dey inside no complete and e dey share many things and also, even the quality + capacity no fit reach that dedicated one in the market.


it's even funny whhen I see people advertising or buying TransformerLess (sachet) inverter above 2KVA. That thing no dey too strong. it's even worse when you buy the inferior brands. e get reason why I no dey like spend much buying all these portable bluetooth MP3, headset, etc. once e spoil, it's difficult to repair OR not woorth the added cost.

in fact if you too carry am go electrician place, dem go tire to dey repair am.

It's the marketers business to create/make sales.

It's the installer / service provider business to optimize his business/service to be more profitable with less trouble.

A good example, imagine the hybrid inverter was still under warranty, you know Wetin installer go dey face by now after him Don chop money and marketer response to warranty is slow

peterpeteru:
Thanks chief. Can you recommend some brands that are very durable and reliable? Also, Can 3.5kva of such an inverter with 2 x 250ah tubular batteries power a submersible pump?

If you want to buy inverters as much as possible avoid Chinese brands e get why.
You are better off with Indian brands.

Chinese has this bad habit of designing system such that when they have issues, you get a new one.
I will recommend vil power, easy maintainance and support.

Yeah it's Transformer based so it should power your submersible pump. The HP matters though

peterpeteru:
Yes, it is. I use a separate charge controller for it though and its only source of charging the batteries is solar.

Oh that's problem hybrid, their repair / parts are not easily accessible, and they can be expensive sha... They are technically charging you to fix the inverter and possible solar charge controller.

It's better you add that 85k and get a transformer based inverter. Leave Wahala for who get am, since you already have a separate CC

peterpeteru:
Hello Gurus. Kudos for your great work here.

My 3.5KVA Ipower inverter is displaying a code 6 error. I took it to Zinox office and was told to pay N85k for repairs which will take 4 weeks. This is the 2nd time of repairing it there. The first time it took them 9 months. A week after collecting it, one of the fans stopped working, but it still worked and I supported it with an external fan.

I don't even load the Inverter up to 10% since I bought it 2 years ago, yet it keeps having issues.

Please, what do you advise? Any alternative step I can take? N85k is too much for this unreliable device biko.

Is the inverter hybrid?

nasonaso:
earthrealm pls I need to ask some questions. My number is 0818seven8threesix063.Any installer in Benin or someone you can refer me to

Am warri based, however I can get to benin and attend to your installation Onces the motivation is right

bassdow:
purposely choose to die the matter.

See eh, I have designed a couple of circuits, I desiigned, not buy readyMade circuit Boards like most people packkaging solarGenerator boxes are doing. And I didn't even use anything hhaving coil.

And yes, there are different types of transformers BUT when I say transformerLess, those of us learned enough, I believe uunderstands whatt I meant.

One basic thing I love about transformers, is the seperation BUT when I want something that would be efficient with almost no wastages, I know what to do.


Makes little sense inverting 12-Volts or 24-Volts DC current to 240-Volts AC , only to have it stepedDown to say 19, 25, etc volts. That's lots of WASTAGEs wether using Transformers or NOT.

I design and build custom CPU, I have a couple of servers of my own, and I have an array of Laptops, I could power them all withh single 12-volts, 200AMPs battery for over 2-days on single charge.
Even my laptop have has it's own power supply that BOOSTs 12-volts comming directly from my chargeController to 19-Volts and Also have a newer version I built that tapps into the battery connector to directly supply 12-Volts to the laptop.

If you have handled Laptop batteries and it's BatteryManagementSystem, you would agree with me they are not just very sensitive, but fragile and could lock you out, thereby rendering the entire battery system useLess no matter how new the battery might be.

what about desktops and server CPUs, those ones have varying voltages that must be very very NEAT.

so I might not have a degree in electtronics, but I have done enough PASSIONATEly, to know what I'm saying, even when I sometimes uses the wrong term.

Even my TV sef, I am selective of the kind of TV I use, no matter what, they must be using external adapter, that way, I could easily feed it (sometimes without modiification) less than 15-volts and it would work perfectly OK. if it's power board is n-built, means I would spend a little more time doing the modifications.



Any day I choose to use lithiuum batteries, I would BUILD (Assemble) mine, rather than buying readyMade lithium batteries which I don't know quuality of it's indiividual cells.

Boss Migwo sir.
I want to come and learn work.

pyrex23:
Good morning please can I get your WhatsApp number? , need some guidance about this Solar thing
I’d really appreciate, thanks

My whatsapp contact you shall have, but you are already in the home of guidance .
If we start ranking here, na craftsman go be my rank


I will send you a mail.

zeestone99:
Me and @obnoxious2001 have settled our small rift less than 24hrs but bad belle people will bring it up, y r u people like this.

@obnoxious2001 come and see something o. I think sey we don settle our small fight. U no tell me sey we Neva settle na. Shebi I don sey mk u no vex.

Omo I just came here and was see many mentions .
We have settled, there reaction is not out of place,however our duty is to contain it.

Behind the scene, I was contacted to get a fix for the system, so I decided to share here. I didnt want to go through building a system that will do the fix, I just wan buy go fix.


But in all no Wahala

zeestone99:
No vex

No Wahala..
Afraid dey hold some of us when we see price.. ..
Besides I already know the solution, however I was look for an already made system that can work independently with a preset voltage level.....

I was thinking of coming up with a simple analog comparator circuit, to notify the user when it has gotten to 24.5v

But enjoyment too sweet they fit ignore am, so I wanted a cutoff system instead of a notification system.

zeestone99:
Buy a hybrid or transformer based inverter with a low voltage disconnect (lvd).
I have transformer based inverter with lvd that can work for lithium.
It's on the list on my advert but u won't see it.
U rather buy what u like and cause problems then come online to ask for solutions.

You where making sense until your closing remark.

That inverter you dey try inform me about I no go buy am from you .

I go buy am from who no put him problem ontop him Market...

Pax vobiscum