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Going back to live in Nigeria is a matter of personal choice. This is known as freedom of choice. These individuals have decided to go back; good luck to them. Their decision is personal and they can’t claim any moral superiority over others who have chosen to stay. People are contributing in different ways without going to live in Nigeria. People have the right to live wherever they want. No need to berate anyone for not going back to live in Nigeria. Besides, having strong and vibrant Nigerian communities outside the motherland can contribute immensely to our national development. It’s a fallacy that the only way to contribute to development of our country is to come back and live in Nigeria. This is an ancient mindset that is not relevant in today’s world. |
[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=531398.msg6938886#msg6938886 date=1287058923]Again most of the responses posted so far highlight the typical Nigerian way of answering questions: Assumptions statements without FACTS. The truth to be told is that well over 70% of Nigerian politicians can use the internet/computer. The reason most of them never reply e-mails can only be known when a sane Nigerian with bold minds carrys out a research to find out why rather than mere assumptions! By the way, to the OP: Could it be that the content of your e-mail was irritating/insulting to the Politicians?[/quote]The issue is not about our politicians knowledge of the internet, but why they do not communicate with their constituents. Managing an email response system is not that difficult. The politicians can assign one of their numerous assistants/secretaries to review and prioritize emails they receive on a daily basis. How else can people reach them if they won't respond to email? send a letter by courier? or better still trek to Abuja with their letter Don't give this politicians any lame excuses for refusing to do their job. As an elected leader, one of your priorities is to engage & communicate with your constituents. Apparently that's asking too much And if they receive the occasional odious or irritating email, they can figure out how to respond. |
[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=526746.msg6930274#msg6930274 date=1286944634]Will comment when am done watching. This is very interesting. I never thought Lagos was like this. So MC was really a politician? or attempting to become one? The dude sounds like a hoodrat. One interesting part was when that man was trying to explain the forcefullness in Nigerian politics and how it is diffeent from the rest of the world's politics. In my opinion, Lious had a bad Tour guide, he wasnt very clear and eloquent with his explanations. Sounded uneducated.[/quote]For me the tour guide was the real star of the documentary Yes, he's explanations were sometimes not clear, but trying to rationalize extortion is difficult. I think he's educated but not sure to what level. some of his lines:-We collect money to protect people from overzealous police -On corruption: No known corruption (with a wink) in Lagos - Wen he compared MC to Queen of England, I thought Loius was about to punch him. Don’t think he’ll get away easily with that at an East pub in London -The whole scene at MC Oluomo’s house was so funny People should take a deep breath & relax; stop bashing BBC. What damage has this done to Lagos? There are hoodlums like MC all over the world doing the same thing: using young men for violence, hobnobbing with celebrity types, trying to get attention of politicians and attracting a swarm of gold diggers in skirts - |
Looking at economic growth alone may be myopic and shifts focus from poverty reduction. For the last 8 yrs, Nigeria's growth has been near or above 6%, but this has yet to translate into improved living standards for majority of the population. Nigeria is currently ranked #158 out of 182 countries, according to 2009 Human Development Index (HDI). Our government needs to focus on improving our HDI ranking and stop bragging about achieving a derisory 6% growth. Derisory, because Nigeria needs double digit economic growth for a long period for sustained development Quote from the HDI report on Nigeria "Nigeria has emerged as one of the fastest growing economies in Sub-Saharan Africa, with an annual growth rate of 6 per cent witnessed between 2001 and 2008, However, the high growth rates do not seem to have translated into equitable distribution of wealth." http://hdr.undp.org/en/reports/nationalreports/africa/nigeria/NHDR_Nigeria_2008-2009.pdf |
Another empty pronouncement dubbed policy that will be difficult to implement . what of English & Math teachers? Don't they deserve a bump in salary? even Yoruba teachers. Why not allocate the money as grants/bursaries for teachers training in Science/techology and invest in science and computer labs to increase student interest. For a state who's motto is "Fountain of Knowledge" not much thought was put into this. Ekiti folks need to |
chosen04:Let's give the guy some credit and applaud his honesty Yes, he withdrew the N20,000 but we'll never know his intent. why did he withdraw the money? He could have gone back to take more, have a blast weekend & keep quiet about it. He may have been tempted to take this path, but did not. His action after that speaks volume about his character. He sought counsel from his family and decided to report the incident. Very smart. And for all those calling the guy a fool; how do you withdraw N9.3 billion (that's not yours) from your acct in 2 days? exactly. That tells me you are the real fool. did someone say "I'll use bulldozer to steal the ATM Machine" ![]() |
Youngichou:this people self! you can't even get your basic math right. So N9.3 billion = $1m? men! why don't you get stuff right before making any comment tip: check yahoo finance or better still ask the "Malo" at Sabo, the airport, |
alleno:Agree with you Alleno for bringing up this story again. We sholud talk about this and let people know that honesty pays. couple of weeks ago when the story broke, lots of people on NL thought the guy was a fool for alerting the bank. No I wonder how many have changed their opinions. The get- rich-quick-at-all-cost mindset is one of the things holding us back as a people. |
I agree Prof. Soyinka President Jonathan missed an opportunity to show leadership. Instead of this lavish "owambe", he should have told all Nigerians that this a time for sober reflection. A coutry with such great potential continue to wallow amongst the laggards. He should have cancelled this celebration and ask the nation for forgiveness (on behalf of the ruling elite) and set out a vision and action plans for a turnaround. No need to list out all the reasons we (Giant of Africa) are ranked # 158 according to the latest Human Development Index (HDI); below Ghana, Tanzania, Sudan, What are we celebrating? Nigeria became independent 50 yrs ago and that's about it. I know the "owambe" crowd will say we should celebrate and thank God the nation is still surviving and trot out all silly excuses to wear their "aso ebi" and party all nite Good news: Oct 2nd is only 48 hrs away and this nonesense will be over. And the billions spent? that will also be forgotten |
The description of the man "Gay Pastor" is enough to create a lynch mob and some comments on this tread point to that lynch mob mentality. hopefully the man will have his day in court & full facts of the case will be revealed. We preach equal & fair justice for all in Nigeria, yet some believe this guy should be killed instantly. Yes, he may have committed a heinous crime but it's unproven; no evidence yet he committed a crime. Too much moral outrage, tone it down people BTW, some come out to display there "homphobic" traits yet in their place of work (in London, New York etc) they will never speak agianst homosexuality. Cowards! people no dey take daily bread play ![]() |
if pidgin becomes one of the international language for business, you may see emails like this pdgin translators will be in great demandTo: Sam Igbokuwenu From: Charles White Subject: Timba wood supply Igbanu Sam, Abeg you fit supply man pinkin 10,000 planks of timba wood by next month. Bico, yarn me when my container go arrive New York port. Reply me chap! chap! Charles White New York Commodity Merchant |
@ poster well Pidign is already a formal language in Nigeria. we have pidgin tv/radio stations, and almost everyone speaks it; not sure exactly what you're trying to tell us I'm a yoruba man and if i meet an ibo man on the street we speak pidgin. its more important to speak fluently and write correctly in our native languages than making pidgin the official language. I'm more concerned about declining use of yoruba language by kids. Lets get real people! For me: native language is Yoruba official language is English second or auxiliary language is pidgin |
what is the purpose of this thread? this only a bitchfest with no real value |
If everything is changing and evolving including English language why should the curriculum be stagnant? why should we be stagnant? Definitely (Definately! ) We need to find out why people are failing and this leads back to my first post,Maybe they are tired of cramming stuff and actually want an education that is relevant to them in this present/future world Maybe the curriculum is no longer adequate. Besides I never apportioned blame anywhere I only stood on the need for CHANGE. "You never change anything by fighting existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." R. Buckminster Fuller [quote][/quote]Yes The english language may be changing, but the use of tenses, nouns, etc remain the same. Some student still don't grasp this basic concept. English is the international language of business & it's to our advantage that students understand it well. shold they be taught in pidgin instead? like patua, spoken by west indians and cockney (spoken in london's east end) pidgin will only be used within a specifc region. |
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[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=517107.msg6800749#msg6800749 date=1285163821]I disagree with you on this.you don't measure academic performance solely on ability to speak or write English.What will you say about countries that don't speak English at all,don't they have intelligent people ?[/quote]For Nigerians proficiency in English is key measurement of level of education. It’s our official language. As an engineer for instance, you need to communicate your project plan, resource management etc to clients in a manner that shows you can deliver. And if you’re a Lawyer, well poor English means you’ll be “charge and bail” forever. This mass failure is very alarming and this report by Next News shows our government & people do not really understand the value of sound education http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5621782-146/nigeria_has_the_highest_number_of.csp |
@ poster So this is still an isssue in this day and age? My goodness! I clearly understand your concern. Well, I'm left handed and growing up in Nigeria a lot of people made every effort to change me. Guess what? they failed. why? because the two most important people in my life - my dad & mum, encouraged me to write, eat with my left hand. It's only natural. Yes, amongst Yorubas it's a taboo to use the left hand; one of the primitive beliefs and supperstion in our culture. Don't let them influence how you raise your son. |
Someone said this discussion is like a treadmill; going nowhere. Nobody is ready to raise the white flag. Still one of main topic but I expect it to fizzle out by this weekend. Ok let’s look at things from this angle: The “return home, Nigeria is better, HEAVY Cash flow” advocates don’t seem to appreciate the benefit of strong and vibrant Nigerian communities outside the shores of the motherland. Tourism is one good example. Some of us visit at least once a year, and by spending in Nigeria the economy benefits; I just can’t quantify the actual benefit. What happens if everyone decides to come back as you constantly preach? Yes, it’s always fun to visit and see my folks, but life is very good here as well. I grew up in Nigeria, spent my years up till university level and it's etched in my heart forever; I will lalways love her regardless. Just tiered of hearing this kind of talk: igbawo lo ma pada si ile, oje se kia ko wa ri inkan mole (when will you return home; better make haste and build a mansion here) as if… |
buzugee:so you're only trying to pad your "post stats" (Tracy mcgrady) |
agabaI23:;DI like this your adage; abeg write am for igbo too. I wan read am for the original language |
The way I see things: People tell you they’ve returned home and then 3 – 5 yrs later they may come back. Get smart and don’t make return home your goal. Is return home really relevant today? The digital & mobile age is gradually making this an old phrase. 10 yrs ago communicating by email, phone or internet with Nigeria was a herculean task. Now, we can see the difference; even this forum was non-existent 6 yrs ago. The digital age has unleashed more business potentials and greater mobility. Sadly a lot of Nigerians abroad are still stuck in the past. For me, the Yoruba adage: Ile labo simi oko does not hold true today. Home they say is where the heart is. Why not establish “homes” in both worlds and take advantage of your contacts/networks in Nigeria & wherever you are abroad. I consider both places home, but plan to spend more time in “Nigerian home” as I grow older. Some Nigerians come over here and set goals like: I’ll work abroad, save $ 500,000; build a mansion in Lagos (or some remote village) and go back home after 8 years. This is a retrogressive mindset and it’s holding a lot of people back from realising their real potential. They are influenced by snide comments by “friends” in Nigeria. (Comments like: you run go abroad; see your mates for home dey build mansion, buy Navigator etc) Start setting goals based on increasing your net worth, working less as you grow older and generating revenue stream from a solid business/investment. Let’s stop thinking like migrant labourers and open our eyes to the vast possibilities of living in a truly global village. |
13volts:This is not about tribal sentiment. Yes, the current state of things is an indictment on all leaders of every state. However, compared to the south, the northern sates are not doing very well. So if any policy maker sees this number, the logical question is why do we have this regional disparity? And if I’m the state Executive of Taraba or Gobe, I want to know how I can improve; same for Ekiti state. Sadly, any discourse about our country somehow leads to charges of tribalism. looking at this numbers, Ekiti should never have separated from Ondo state. |
The top 5 are all southern states; and of the top 10 only 2 (Kano & Kaduna) are Northern states Those northern polilticians should focus on getting their people to work, instead of trying to grab power by al means |
chiogo:hmmn! oro agba (words of wisdom) @poster, this is the simple truth |
Great points. Why is religion such a divisive topic with us? I don't get it bodejohn: |
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@ AMAKA anyway your points are noted, but I disagree completely…that’s the way you see things |
@ Amaka, well, are Ghanaians, Ivoriens or other African countires constantly in the headlines listen, i feel your pain as well. sadly this constant bad news affects us all. thats the fact |
People, we know why these things happen to us. It’s the same reason that our sorry arse green passport attracts suspicion. If an alien drops to planet earth today, I can bet you within a month it will come across this kind of news headlines: Lagos, Nigeria ---- Top Chief Executive of bank steals $2 billion & flees to the U.K. Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia ---- 50 yr old Nigerian woman caught with 6 kilos of cocaine Amsterdam, Netherlands ---- Nigerian gang arrested with 1,000 fake passports New York, U.SA ---- 4 Nigerian nationals charged with $17 million credit card fraud Naples, Italy ---- 30 Nigerian women to be deported for prostitution Need I say more? Bad behaviour is so synonymous with Nigeria. My people I beg make we change or talk about something |
Why is Siaisia making dumb statements? Now I know he’s not smart enough to manage/coach a national team. According to NEXT News he said: “Of course I am not saying they must pay the 12 million naira; we can negotiate and come to an agreement but I won’t take peanuts,” So N2 million per month plus benefits is peanuts in a country like Nigeria? And he goes further with this embarrassing statement “When the players know I am well paid they won’t be coming with five thousand dollars or whatever to come and bribe me,” So you won’t be offered (& possibly accept) bribe from players if the NFF pays you more than N2 million? Coaching a national team is more about leadership, inspirational and communication skills, and less of technical expertise. As a coach you can bring in attack, defensive and scouting experts. Even if he gets the job, this guy won’t last 3 yrs |
we'll always rank low because our current players lack the passion to play. Period. The talent is there, but don't bring their "A" game. they should view this interview by one of Nigeria's all time greats (Haruna Ilerika), to see what it means to be a Super Eagle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRb14tOwy58 |
The $1 million sign on fee is a non starter; rather they should agree on a contract based on performance only. And why is he asking for a new car and house. Strike that off. They can start him with $30,000 – $50,000 per month with yearly increase and bonus based on actual performance. This salary will put him in the top 5% of earners in Nigeria. The performance index can be determined by a combination of number of wins, new player development, Nigeria’s FIFA ranking and so on. Both parties should agree on the percentage increase. The last year of the contract can then include a $500,000 bonus if we reach the quarter final of the 2014 world cup. |
Don't give this politicians any lame excuses for refusing to do their job. As an elected leader, one of your priorities is to engage & communicate with your constituents. Apparently that's asking too much
) We need to find out why people are failing and this leads back to my first post,