₦airaland Forum

kingoflag:
What is this Religion angle you keep harping on and on about? In your last post you claimed the United States is a "Christian" Nation. That can go either way, because as someone told you above, most of us dont go to Church out here anyways---- quite frankly majority could give two f**ks about religion.

Next, you claim "Religion" is what binds us with Israel? Lol So, you think Israel is a Christian nation abi?

Like someone said to you above: Pick a book and do some more reading!

pls tell me wat binds america wih isreal. that would make presiden OBAMA tell the world that the most important thing to them (AMERICAN GOVT) was the security of the homeland and isreal.

Your not going to church does not mean ur govt has not taken her stand. Pls anwer the first qst.

thank God. Soo we thank God the northerners are talking. They really can survive without the south and their oil. But they would need a lot of southerners at the early stage pending the time they educate their people. Dat also depends on the kind of education. Western or sharia. The latter can not survive in this present world. SNC IT IS.

Sweetlemon:
@Oiseworld, No I dont think Christainity is what binds America because a good percent of them do not even go to church! Please can you just do some more research there? thank you

their are two countries in the world that have always carried themselves as one. US AND ISREAL. Have u tried to ask wat history do they have in common? Non but religion. I moght be wrong pls edu. Me
Whenn 'ast did u look at an american dollar. Did you still find their IN GOD WE TRUST. Another american quote i came across i can't say or tell where bu if says something like , A people bounded by God. Ps if u hav the write phrase do correct me. They just like us might not follow completely in all the ways of the bible like most modern society and their religion, but their founding fathers did for a long long time dat it has dissulved fully into their system.

@sweetlemon
u've made lots of points there, but still using america as a case study for nigeria, i would say lets find out what really binds them together. It must be really strong. And i would say its religion.(christianity). Every other religion are minor emmigrants. The founding fathers had already layed the indept laws of the bible into their constitution.
Thats why nigeria is finding it difficult to work. Wth two powerful and totally different religions we have different tots of reasoning and selfish religious pursue. Therefore a need for SNC.

when you give a mice a piece of cake, it would ask for a glass of milk. just imagine host community.

i hope he intensify security at d borders. Because we have to ensure arms and ammunitions are not coming in since the road blocks ave been removed. We are in the boko haram era ooh.

may his soul rest in peace.

nd do u have to post that.

Dudu_Negro:
. . . . . . . Security ops given new identities and undercover trade mission. They are here to surveil and assess a tactical approach to obliterate boko. finally. . . .Good development!!

Toooo knoww

personal agenda= i can't say

nothern/ISLAMIC AGENDA= YES,YES,YES!!!

chuxyn:
Another bomb has gone out again in kaduna this morning claiming victims, Bokoharam is a serious issue and every hand should be on deck to stop this menace in our country. If you are not against Bokoharam then you are among them, and IBB has not come out openly to condemn their activities, let him come out and defend himself instead of using stooges to talk for him on NL, a lot of people are praying for this country and those that dig a pit to hurt his fellow man and put their families in distress will not go down in peace.

the devil has commented thru his spokes man. Giving baseless denial.

This guys are guilty. The reality is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

just a little time more. GEJ CARRY GO.

i have gone thru the story in dat interview and i bet ibb knows alot about dis boko haram issue

He's a snake and the chief sponsor/founder of boko haram.

247nigerianewsupdate.com/tiger-plea,

Dats d souce. Am still finding it hard to paste from ma phone.

Says “Haliru Sani’s Statements Are Effusions of A Deluded Mind” The Ibrahim Babangida camp has at last offered a response to the allegation of
sponsorship of the Boko Haram sect levelled against the former military President. A
statement issued by General Babangida’s Media Spokesman denied any links with Sani
Haliru, the repented Boko Haram member. The statement raeds inter alia “We feel a deep sense of concern that the country is going
through these obvious challenges of insecurity and bad leadership that are threatening
the very fabric of the country’s foundation. We have read and assimilated the effusions
of a deluded mind by name Sheik Sani Haliru, who for want of very cheap relevance
decided to mention the highly respected name of IBB as one of the “sponsors” of what
he called Boko Haram. From our first reading, we felt it would amount to giving undue relevance to a confused mind if we volunteer a response, but for our teeming
supporters, associates and friends of IBB, and for the price we owe history, we decided
to offer this disclaimer. First, General IBB cannot in his frame of mind remember any of such names called Sheik
Sani Haliru whether as an Almajiri or a jihadist or both. Reading through the interview,
one is easily confronted with a number of inconsistencies and well orchestrated
conclusions that are spuriously out of place. One, Dele Giwa did not die of suicide
bombing as claimed by Sani Haliru. It is public knowledge that he died of parcel bomb
and the latest insight by Rev.Chris Omeben as published in Sunday Sun of 5th February, 2012 will form an instructive reading. Secondly, we have every cause to believe that the
interview was carefully scripted to convey the message intended and not one
conducted under a question and answer basis. The responses of the said Sani Haliru attest to this fact. From that premise therefore, it
will be save to conclude that the interview was structured by certain agents of
government to satisfy pre-determined position. Thirdly, the questions by the
interviewer are also leading questions, tending to achieve the predetermined end of the
initiators of the interview. The emphasis on seeing Islam as a religion of violence is a
clear indication of this motive. Fourthly, on the one hand, the interviewee declared himself to be a converted Christian, while on the other hand, he was asking for someone
that will connect him to God. He talked about his fear of going to jail, why will a man of
God be afraid of incarceration or jail if the cause he is pursuing is truly altruistic? How
could someone with facts about Boko Haram be saying that he is afraid the SSS will
arrest him if he ventured those facts, when the whole wide world is patiently waiting to
get a road map out of the Boko Haram pogrom? There are also instances where third person narrative tenor is given to Sheik Sani Haliru, thus making the whole exercise
curiously misleading and utterly unconscionable to warrant any serious recognition. In all of these, so many conjectures, hearsays, deductions, impressions and lies were
bandied in the said interview thus making the entire contents suspect. For example, his
reference to the October 1st bombing in Abuja is totally at variance with what the State
Security Service has unravelled about the masterminds of that dastardly incident. We are
therefore at sea to reconcile any of the claims as truly reflective of any sound mind save
that we have every reason to believe that this is purely a well-scripted interview to give our revered IBB a bad name. What the real motive of the interview is remains to us very
worrisome because we cannot in any way rationalize the immediate or remote
intentions of the interviewee and the interviewer. For purposes of record, General IBB wishes to disclaim whoever that might have
granted such interview and wish to emphatically state that there is no iota of truth in
whatever the interviewee must have put down. There is no connection whatsoever
between himself and the so-called Sheik Sani Haliru. It will serve good purpose if the said
Sani Haliru could disclose his age in 1985, 1987 and 1992, because his claim of 44 years
of Boko Haram activities could be self-contradicting if we are able to know his real age. 1985 till date is a record 27 years. By the time we subtract that age from 44 , the guess is as good as mine. One couldn’t
possibly know what feat a 17 years old boy would perform in 1985 to warrant any
linkage with IBB. It will also be of good use if he could disclose the instances where IBB
is directly and indirectly connected or linked to his activities, how much money he was
given, who gave the money and what period of time? The uncomplimentary adjectives he used to describe General IBB further expose the
underpinning lies in the interview. Every Nigerian that has had opportunity of
interacting with this great Nigerian called IBB from North to South, East to West, would
concede to the bare-faced fact that General IBB is generally a likeable person, generous,
kind and very hearty personality whose contributions to national development and
unity of Nigeria remain unparalleled in the history of Nigeria. For such a leader who has put his all in the development and unity of the country to now get involved in such
heinous activities as described by the so-called Sani Haliru stands logic on its head. All the insinuations as to the deliberate effort of IBB trying to Islamise Nigeria are clear
indications that Sani Haliru is suffering from self-delusion. Perhaps, he did not realize the
fact that IBB’s Vice-Presidents and some of his key players in his cabinet were Christians.
He also might have forgotten that it was in the same regime that our broken diplomatic
ties with Israel were restored to allow Nigerians embark on Holy Pilgrimage to Jerusalem.
If we are to follow all the writings in the Bible, and interpret them likewise, one will be tempted to say that the Bible is preaching violence too. But the word of God cannot be
interpreted on its face value; hence men should be wary about drawing conclusions that
are informed by their limited understanding of the word of God. We therefore wish to inform the public to disregard and ignore whoever might be the
face behind that name called Sheik Sani Haliru and the message of doom that he seems
desperate to propagate. We wish to assure our teeming members’ world-wide that as
elder statesman, General IBB will not desist from offering his plausible contributions to
national discourse and that no amount of blackmail can take that leadership away from
this great icon. The unity and peaceful co-existence of Nigeria is very dear to General IBB and having fought in the 30months civil war of the late sixties, he would do
everything humanly possible to avert any descent to anarchy in our fatherland. We challenge both the interviewee and interviewer to disclose the documents they claim
to have to prove us wrong, otherwise, they should keep their mouths shut forever.” PRINCE KASSIM AFEGBUA
MEDIA SPOKESMAN TO GENERAL IBB

general!!! U are indeed incorruptable. I respect you for dat.

But what other skill do u have, don't u have business ideas, don't u have management principles or technics, can't u cut ur coat according to ur size. Are u saying if you were president u would only fight corruption to a stand still and watch wa wa wa at other sector fail. Sir, i am disappointed.

i pray God provide's u with anoda house. And if u are soo prudent u should have used the initial 20m to build a small house in the outskirt of abuja.

i don't think he should be pardoned. He's luck to get a life sentence. He had already blown up that airline in his mind he was only unable physically. Its as good as doing it. Let him face the ca.pital purnis.hment.

guy no country is free of negative news its just that we complain soo much that we never notice or celebrate the good of our country.

I am proud to be nigerian because all isee is opportunities. As a scientist and a good businessman i begin to wonder if iwould be able to achieve anything if i was born in the US Because the country is soo developed and i would feel so small.  so be strong God made you here because he wants you to be a change agent.

Finally, if you try all and  u still don't love ur coumtry, then i think you just have to look for a country u love and go there because u woun't achive anything in an enveronment you don't love or see anything good about. Soo cheer up.

ochi-aha:


A Clown and his bride.

i dey laugh in clown!  Ki ki ki ki ki ki ki ki we actually need  guys like this.

i think both should be regulated properly. The universities profs. Exterb.lished d polytechjnics and equipd them well enough to stand and outstand the Bsc's why d discrimination i can't tell.

Secondly, . I blame the govt more and d private sector. Normally inrecrutment you emloy the man for the job not the man with the bsc. Dat show we are just acting drama in this country and the reason why nothing gets done because we are not serious. The nigeria system is just not the competitive type.

saska1122:
I don't know where to start. But must start somewhere, so please don't query my post not being sequential.

The problem we face in our school system today is a reflection of the larger society. Wealth and showing off the riches are the new moral values in Nigeria.
So students are in mad rush to make the money or show off the wealth of their parents. So to bend down is study is done by the negligible % of the student.
They must do anything to get the certificate in order to present it somewhere for money(literally). So any teacher or administrator trying to make them learn
in a proper way is an enemy. As such most Nigerian students are lazy, proud/arrogant and sometimes bitter of school authorities. About 30-50% of them are
not worth the degree and certificate they carry.
Then, there is the problem of private schools run by sole proprietors who only see the business(economic) aspects of the school not really the future of the society.

I have more, but got to get back to work! And I expect some bashing if this thread last long after all we hate the bitter truth about out country!!

seconded.

27naira:
are you kidding me?
This is exactly the reason why i hate the Nigerian media and the mentality of our politicians. "follwers indeed"

let him come oit show himself, the tinubu i know likes talking and proving points like the average yoruba man, helike to dey show for tv well,well. So let us see him

abi i lie?

cherished:
Pls note DAT not all federal civil servants have been paid Jan salaries. My bf works with oauthc and they have not been paid. Most federal hospitals paid with their in-house generated fund.

man i see a clue here, i fit take this 1. Deceive all my val them.

THanks babe.

look this is tje problem of this country, this quota system of a thing. My dad who is a retird military man has said times without no. That this quota system will kill us in this country. Almost all ofthem have scaled thru with quota shit. Wen you now meet, they start arguing with you like they can pass on their own.

Don't be shocked it has been like this from the begining, i tell you. now u hav a clearer picture of how nigeria landed in the situation it is now. if we dont take nessary action we go hear am. Education is actually too difficult for a northerna. It is greed,corruption and godfatherism that has brought them dis far.

dami rip.

wats wrong with this nairalanders. How come nobody has commented on the otjer story. I mean the boko haram guy that instigated ibb. Is he lieing too?

To all of you mislim who think Jesus is a prohet get what jesus said in john 14:6 " I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE: NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER BUT BY ME. let me give you this little illustration.

If you father was a king or a very rich and influncial person in acommunity and you his son stood at the gates of your father's massive mansion and you determied those that see him or those that don't. Wen visitors come to your house if they wanted to see your father they had to do what ever you asked them to. Otherwise they would shout and notting would come out of it.

In my house we have a security man at the gates and wen you come you had to put a call thru to a resident of the house else you're just wasting you time,he won't let you in. Days the way it is. Further more if you read the whole of mark 14,15,16,17. You would clearly understand that jesus is God's channel to theworld and the comforter (the holy spirit) is the one that was sent and remaineth in the world. All this three; THE FATHER ,THE SON (JESUS) ,AND THE SPIRIT .ARE CALLED THE TRINITY. YOU CANT HAVE ONE AND NOT TAKE THE OTHER. They all work as one and all say the same thing.

I will also recomend you read john 1. You will know that jesus was with the father from the begining. He is the outspoken word of the father that made the heaven and the earth.

Nairalanders i have said my own.
MUSLIMS, there is no road,way, in islam. may God open all our eyes and heart in jesus name Amen.

when we were all following on his articles at guardian we never cared if he had four wife, so thats not an issue to us dele.

I tink i go with abati on these, he has not changed from who we knew him to be, and would not changed. If he made a mistake at all was to have taken up a public position as pres spokesman or wat ever it is.

Then he should never have replied babe dee or has he forgotten the criteria for selection in politics(critize the government) and u stand a chance for one political appointment.

It worked for him, worked for Ribadu now he come they spoil baba dee market.

@muskeeto, the bible says "some shall trust in horses and others in chariot but we shall put our trust in the lord" your end is nearer than you next type on your computer.