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@Bastage: Distasteful hypocracy is not anyone will use to describe me. My friend know that I am direct and sincere. maybe too direct. And you must have been reading my post backward, on the subject of the murdered young woman (ra).

Please show a single entry to all of us, where I hinted a prejudicial or hypocritical opinion against the late woman? I wanna see if you have been reading my thoughts or you are just trying to say something funny, untrue and distasteful about me.

Finally, if I show you from Qur'aan and or hadith (the choice is mine) where forgiveness is emphasised, even when revenge is necessary, will you forfeit your life earning to my charitable organization developing HIV/AIDS drugs to be distributed to the poors, starting from African Children, and or if you are not wealthy or afraid of poverty you must become Muslim, immediately, now?

bastage, I dey wait for ya answer, ol boy. Please ready to put on Jilbab and stop the short short that you wear thinking that you are covered up, while to me you are as naked as a jailbird. (jailbird has no privacy, you know!).

I love Islam too much. Maybe this is your complaint against me.

The below is a good expose about "Love" from Allah to His Slaves. I am one of the slaves. I am grateful about being a slave of the Almighty Creator.

http://www.wefound.org/ Your website to success through authentic knowledge of Islâm and Da'wah according to the Qur’ân and the Sunnah.


Love and Devotion to Allah
By Dr. Norlain Dindang Mababaya

We have to love Allah, the Most High, and be devoted to Him Alone so that in return, He will love us. Only when we gain His love and mercy can we succeed in conveying the Message of Islam. We have to be devoted Muslims in order to seek Allah’s help to bless us and be successful in our Da’wah. We have to earnestly pray to Him that the non-Muslims who listen to our Da’wah see the Truth. Verily, Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala, meaning: the Most Glorious and the Exalted) is the One Who guides people to Islam. No matter how much we try to explain the Truth to non-Muslims, they will never accept it unless our Creator opens their hearts to it. Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) tells us:

“Those whom Allah wills to guide, He opens their breast to Islam. Those whom He wills to leave straying, He makes their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies; thus does Allah lay abomination on those who refuse to believe.” (6:125)

For our guidance, we have to know how to earn Allah’s love. In the Qur’an Allah Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) tells us two ways by which He bestows His love upon us:

“Say: ‘If you do love Allah follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins for Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful.’” (3:31)

“On those who believe and work deeds of righteousness will (Allah) Most Gracious bestow Love.” (19:96)

It is very clear that if we follow the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam), Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) will love us. Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) invited people to believe (in Tawhîd and the six articles of Faith) and work deeds of righteousness, which he himself practiced with much devotion. We can show our love and devotion to Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) by performing not only the obligatory deeds required upon us but also to do the supererogatory or voluntary deeds.


This means to observe the obligatory five daily prayers, zakat, fasting in the month of Ramadan, and hajj in the House of Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) in Makkah once in a lifetime for those who can afford it. In addition to these is to try as much as possible to perform the optional prayers, to give sadaqa (voluntary charity), to fast in other days and months, and to perform umrah. All these must be done in accordance with the Sunnah or Way of the Prophet (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam).

The most important of these voluntary deeds is the qiyaam ul layl or tahajjud (after midnight prayer). Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) commanded His Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) to pray qiyaam ul layl, which the Prophet (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) regularly performed and which became part of his Sunnah. We read in the Qur’an :


O you (Muhammad) folded in garments! Stand (to prayer) by night, but not whole night, half of it, or a little less, or a little more; and recite the Qur’an in slow, measured rhythmic tone. Soon shall We send down to you a weighty Word. Truly the rising by night is a time when impression is more keen and speech more certain. True, there is for you by day prolonged occupation with ordinary duties: but keep in remembrance the name of your Rabb, and devote yourself to Him whole-heartily. He is the Rabb of the East and the West: there is no god but He. Take Him therefore for your Disposer of affairs. (73:1-9)

“Verily, your Rabb does know that you (O Muhammad) stand forth (to prayer) nigh two-thirds of the night or half the night, or a third of the night, and so does a party of those with you. And Allah measures the night and the day. He knows that you are unable to pray the whole night. So He has turned to you (in mercy). Read therefore as much of the Qur’an as may be easy (for you).

He knows that there will be some among you sick, others traveling through the land, seeking of Allah’s Bounty, and others fighting in Allah’s Cause. So, recite as much of the Qur’an as may be easy (for you) and perform regular prayer and give Zakat; and loan to Allah a beautiful loan. And whatever good you send forth for yourselves, you shall find it with Allah. Yes, better and greater in reward, and seek forgiveness of Allah, for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” (73:20)

By making qiyaam ul layl as part of our practice, we become pious, a characteristic that will make us better Muslims. We must strive to be pious. We must know that Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) encourages us to have such excellent character as narrated in the following Hâdîth:

Abu Dharr (radhiallâhu anhu) narrated that Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) said to him, “You are not better than people with red or black skins unless you excel them in piety.” (Tirmidhi 5198 and Ahmad)

Once we become pious, we earn Allah’s love. Allah the Almighty will bless us with the best personality ¾ one that is loved by all the angels, and all the people, including non-Muslims. We read the following Ahâdîth Qudsi:


Abu Hurairah (radhiallâhu anhu) narrated that Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) said, “Allah (Mighty and sublime be He) said: ‘Whoever shows enmity to someone devoted to Me, I shall be at war with him. My servant draws not near to Me with anything more loved by Me than the religious duties I have enjoined upon him, and My servant continues to draw near to Me with supererogatory works so that I shall love him.

When I love him I am his hearing with which he hears, his seeing with which he sees, his hand with which he strikes, and his foot with which he walks. Were he to ask (something) of Me, I would surely give it to him, and were he to ask Me for refuge, I would surely grant him it. I do not hesitate about anything as much as I hesitate about (seizing) the soul of my faithful servant: he hates death and I hate hurting him.’” (Bukhari 8/509)


Abu Hurairah (radhiallâhu anhu) narrated that the Prophet (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) said, “If Allah loves a person, He calls Gabriel saying, 'Allah loves so and-so; O Gabriel! Love him.’ Gabriel would love him and make an announcement amongst the inhabitants of the Heaven. 'Allah loves so-and-so, therefore you should love him also,' and so all the inhabitants of the Heaven would love him, and then he is granted the pleasure of the people on the earth.” (Bukhari 4/431 and 8/66, Muslimand Tirmidhi)


We should include in our supplications to Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) during qiyaam ul layl, that He makes us effective Du’ât, so that those non-Muslims who listen to us will easily see the Light of Islam. When we do this, by Allah’s Will, we will succeed as Du’ât because Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) listens and grants supplications from His devoted worshippers especially during qiyaam ul layl. Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) said:


Abu Hurairah (radhiallâhu anhu) narrated that Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) said: “Our Rabb, the Blessed, the Superior, comes down every night to the nearest heaven to us during the last third of the night. Then, He says: ‘(Is there anyone) who invokes Me, (demands anything from Me) so that I respond to his invocation? (Is there anyone) who asks Me for something so that I may grant him his request? (Is there anyone) who seeks My forgiveness, so that I may forgive him?’” (Bukhari 2/246)


It is a must that we should invite people to love Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) for the favors that He has given to us. Verily, Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) is our Creator, Sustainer and Cherisher. Everything comes from Him. He Alone deserves our love:


“Yet there are men who take (for worship) others besides Allah as equal (with Allah); they love them as they should love Allah. But those of faith are overflowing in their love for Allah. If only the unrighteous could see behold they would see the penalty that to Allah belongs all power and Allah will strongly enforce the penalty.” (2:165)


We should invite non-Muslims to love Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) so that the Almighty will love them in return. They can show their love to Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala) by being rational and sincere in their search for Truth. If they do so, they will find that verily, Islam is the True Religion from Allah (Subhanahu wa ta’ala). Insha Allah, He will open their hearts to Islam as He is the One Who gives Islam to those whom He loves. Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) says in the following Hâdîth:


‘Abdullah Bin Mas’ud (radhiallâhu anhu) narrated that Allah’s Messenger (sallallâhu ‘alayhi wasallam) said, “Allah Most High has allotted you your characters just as He has allotted you your provisions. Allah Most High gives worldly things to those whom He loves and those whom He does not love, but He gives religion only to those whom He loves, so he who is given religion by Allah has been loved by Him. By Him in Whose hand my soul is, a man is not a Muslim till his heart and tongue are submissive, and he is not a believer till his neighbor is safe from injurious behavior on his part.” (Tirmidhi 4994)

@PastorAIO: I am not intending to turn everything to religiousity. But I want people to at least be truthful, especially when they claim to be punditive, in the public. Olaadegbu said Allah does not love: is that the truth or Olaadegbu was speaking of complete ignorance?

Of course, by my quote from Qur'aan, we know that he was completely ignoramous in his lie against Allah. And by the way, verses where love is expressed are many. Allah is no Only Love, but also Hate. The Hate of Allah is directed to Evil doers; the people who will inhabit hellfire. You do believe there is a place like that, or you dont?

I almost broke into a song about pastor that we used to sing in High School. I am sure you must have a ton of them, about the friskiness of Pastors with their "choir members." I like your style. Unlike the lying Olaadegbu. At least I know that you are a Keferi and you are unabashed about it.

@Olaadegbu: « #8 on: November 11, 2008, 04:36 PM »

Notice that the laws of physics are highly mathematical in nature. They would not work if there were not also laws of mathematics. Mathematical laws and principles include the rules of addition, the transitive property, the commutative properties of addition and multiplication, the binomial theorem, and many others. Like the laws of physics, some laws and properties of mathematics can be derived from other mathematical principles. But unlike the laws of physics, the laws of mathematics are abstract; they are not “attached” to any specific part of the universe. It is possible to imagine a universe where the laws of physics are different; but it is difficult to imagine a (consistent) universe where the laws of mathematics are different.

The laws of mathematics are an example of a “transcendent truth.” They must be true regardless of what kind of universe God created. This may be because God’s nature is logical and mathematical. Thus, any universe He chose to create would necessarily be mathematical in nature. The secular naturalist cannot account for the laws of mathematics. Certainly, he would believe in mathematics and would use mathematics; but he is unable to account for the existence of mathematics within a naturalistic framework since mathematics is not a part of the physical universe. However, the Christian understands that there is a God beyond the universe and that mathematics reflects the thoughts of the Lord. Understanding maths is in a sense “thinking God’s thoughts after Him” (though in a limited, finite way, of course).

While at first glance, you may make sense. However you cheapened God the Almighty by confining Him, into the laws of the Universe or limited abstraction, based on your human knowledge. You must have forgotten that God's Wisdom is infinite, limitless, while your is constained by all that human knows.

So in the above, how do you "Christian" boldly attach "human; Jesus" to The God who is infinite and inexpendable? Can the perfect produces as part of Him, imperfect? Impossible! Would a never wary, never dying being produces as part of Him a "warying and dying being and make him His equal?"

Some have supposed that mathematics is a human invention; it is said that if human history had been different, an entirely different form of maths would have been constructed—with alternate laws, theorems, axioms, etc. But such thinking is not consistent. Are we to believe that the universe did not obey mathematical laws before people discovered them? Did the planets orbit differently before Kepler discovered that p2 = a3? Clearly, mathematical laws are something that human beings have discovered—not invented. The only thing that might have been different (had human history taken a different course) is the notation—the way in which we choose to express mathematical truths through symbols. But these truths exist regardless of how they are expressed. Mathematics is the “language of creation.”

Someday, for your own sake, before you die, I pray you discover that God is One and discard the invented "Trinity idea that is mathematically and by universal law, impossible. Then you will express the truth about The God in Truth, not in the "bent" idea of calling a human who cried, wept, begged, etc, god!

@Olaadegbu: Oniro niwo omo okunrin yi. Thank God, you do not want anything from me. If I know your wife I will suggest that she divorces you, because you lie on Allah:

Posted on: November 11, 2008, 04:12 PMPosted by: OLAADEGBU
The Love of God as revealed in the Christian Bible is one of the attributes that sets the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob apart from other gods, even All'ah does not have love as one of his attributes out of the so called 99 or so attributes ascribed to him in the Qu'ran. And this is the virtue that is difficult even for the devil to imitate. God is Love.(1 John.4:16)

“Say: ‘If you do love Allah follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your sins for Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful.’” (3:31) , ; This is from the Qur'aan, commanding the Messenger (AS) to proclaim to believers, which you are not one. If this is not an endictment on your conscience, then what is? Liar! You should be ashamed of yourself. Opuro. Or you truly lack knowledge, while pretending to have any, what so ever.

A post-civil war birth speaks without any sense. Is Islam the property of the North?Are there no Igbos who are Muslims? Is there no Yoruba Muslim? I am neither Hausa, Aboki, Alumanjiri nor northern person. Yet my face announces Islam when you see me.

Let me tell you something: The elders of Igboland do not think like you. A person who misbehaves, like the Abokis and Alumanjiris, has you have stated above, is not doing so because Islam permits him. He is doing so because of his ignorance. Islam teaches no destructions or stealing of somebody else's properties.

Now that you are foolishly announcing and thereby inciting mayhem in Nigeria, of one citizenry, based on tribe over another, I hope you will be the first to put your life on the line for "Biafra?" These evil names, Biafra, Arewa or Oduua, etc are dispeakable means of separating us, instead of uniting us.

What will happen if war starts allover again? You expect Husbands and Wives to suddenly leave each other for your "tribal rift?" I have news for you: Yakubu Gowon, married Victoria at the height of the war in 68/9. Instead of you suggesting a war to bring harmony, what you have done is to tear down the curtain of the "fragile" relationship that could be built in time to healthy relationship, whereby people can just be citizens, instead of tribe first.

I hope the Igbo people will ride the society off, of people like you.

@Olaadegbu: Let me use you as a whipping board this morning.

'You are not a man!'

Your wife was right, in the above statement. lol. Manhood is a state of mind and not just the physiological, alone!

That night, we didn' t talk to each other. She was weeping. I knew she
wanted to find out what had happened to our marriage. But I could hardly
give her a satisfactory answer; she had lost my heart to a lovely girl
called Dew. I did'nt love her anymore. I just pitied her!

This alone, is enough to put you to death! If you are a muslim, I mean. Just imagine if the shoe was in the other foot. If your wife, in the first year of your marriage had met a more debounearing younger man who was more successful than you a "still struggling and older man", and then decided to walk out on you. I am sure you would have cried "murderer".

With a deep sense of guilt, I drafted a divorce agreement which stated that
she could own our house, our car, and 30% stake of my company. She glanced
at it and then tore it into pieces. The woman who had spent ten years of
her life with me had become a stranger. I felt sorry for her wasted time,
resources and energy but I could not take back what I had said for I loved
Dew so dearly.

Is that what marrying you is? No wonder you went to a "fake" woman, actually a girl, at best; Dew. I wonder if Dew aged rapidly after you have been with her for say, a couple of years? Another moving on, again to another woman? When will you settle down, Olaadegbu? Don't forget that you are still an african. Since the wife you are divorcing "cooks and other womanly things for you," what if when you are 100% with Dew, she refuses to do the cooking and the other womanly things that your soon to be divorced from "present wife" is always too eager to do?



[quote]Finally she cried loudly in front of me, which was what I had expected to see. To me her cry was actually a kind of release. The idea of divorce which had obsessed me for several weeks seemed to be firmer and
clearer now.

Many people are in lust. They lusted into "present relationship, which they now have as spouses," until they find another "lust after, possible potential future spouse" to take the place of the present unstable relationship they are in. Now just imagine if you are a Muslim where a man is allowed to have more than 1 spouse. You could keep your first and still marry a second. The hurt would not have to be so cut deep. Afterall, no an wants his sister or woman folk to be divorce from a good man. Unless, you the husband of the woman is such a terrible spouse.

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There are somethings that are not for Public consumptions. What you wrote above is one of them. Jesus your god could not approve such vulgar utterrances. Funny enough you will go to church, today, still as one of the "born again?" What if you are not a "born again", would there be a restraint in your speech, since you said that " it is Jesus who has cautioned you from a hard response to me?" Yoruba woman is expected of good manners, speeches. Learn that quality.

Aburo, you are not my type, at least from your speech. I love modesty in women. The skin color and beauty are not the only measure of what my type of woman is. I love goodly woman. I find this quality in Islam. It is either you lost your yorubaness, or it is Islam that has improved me. I think both are correct situation. In my youth, if you had the gut to throw such a gauntlet, I will tell you to show your bravery.


Then you would have had to learn at thing or two. Remember that I grew up in the 60/70s. That was a wild time. You would easily be put aside, today, if you live in any boro of New York City. I think your "Maryland" villager mindset is what is deceiving you. Unless you want to be stumped, walked all over? The Miss Neowoman, leather vest wearing dominatrix will be breakfast cereal. lol.

Funmi, lo feko. I am not for you. So stop dreaming about baba agba. You don'r have to prood to me that you are a woman. Do that by getting married to your cow milker, the dude you are calling "boooooooooooooooooo!" lol. I want the best for you. Thats all.

Oh boy. Funmilayo, you have a wierd imagination. What would I be doing in Maryland, when NYC is almost as large? Even if you become a muslim, I will have a dude your age for you. My taste is different. I hope you wear Hijab, when you become muslim. And bring your "boo" along. Are they still using the term "boo?" That was some years ago. News and fads travels slow through Maryland country side. lol

@Funmi:

Roflmao whats your business with my boo?. I've warned you before that he will wrench your neck one day. We will get married someday but we are taking our time to discover ourselves and whom we are.

How much time do you need to discover "ourselves" in the world of dominatrix? Duuh! And all the while you and him inflict pain on each other in the " mistress Funmi and slave boy" relationship that you guys are having, sex too? This is Christianity or what Jesus approved? lol. Funmilayo, o kin nse omode mo. bawo ni Iya Orile kingdom she ma gbogbo jagba jagba yi kinu won dun?

Look for a subway or something to feed yourself because na ata i go use treat your wound after castrating you.

Deviant/Neo-Womanist/Uber-realist/UrbanGoddess/Eco-Dominatrix/invincible

I wonder if you think everyone who talks to you wants to sleep with you? I am not one of them. Tat will be Zina. In my case it will be punishable by death. I have no reason to stray. And I am sure you will not be my type. lol. At least its saturday and am not as busy. So let me have my jokes (fun time) at your expenses. You see, only the gullibles need your dominatrix services! lol.

@Dayokanu: Kuu Ojo meta. How is the family, etc? Nice to know that you are well.

Babs did not say anything about okay or not in any 8 years old girl marriage. You of all people should know that.

What he has done was simply to pull out from human history that other culture and religions, (christianity and judaism are not exempted. Hindu men have been feared by their wives to want to disvirgin their daughters), before the advent of Muhammad's Islam, and even after it. Did we not know about the Austrian and now the English guys who got their own daughters pregnant many times over! Are they muslims, too?

You, Dayokanu live in USA. You can't tell me that you have not heard of even white underage boys and girls engaging in freakiest of things, especially sex. Its not just the blacks or Spanish. But the orientals and all types of asians, in their communities engage in this thing called sex. And the white elites in their naighborhoods have their share of the forbidden "vegetables" too. Today it is KOOL to have children out of wedlock. Sharon Stone, Halley Berry are just examples. Marriage is a dying institution.

Everyone is having a "boo" who they perform illicit sexual acts with. Ask Funmilayo who laced hers with neo-woman, dominatrix acts. Yet she is from Osun state of 9ja. A state you will count as still carrying the yoruba morality of goodliness. (Funmi; ma binu. Oro lo boro wa. Oun to ba yeun, lafi nwe un). When you marry, I will stop Tormenting you about bad behaviors.

If not for Jesus, do you know what I would've said to Olabowale?.

Ti nba gbo oruko mi lemu iwo omo buruku yi mo. I ko ni nma kon mo e lori. Ipata amerika!

Funmi's mind is clean (i mean baren), as snow that blubber of killed seal blood has stained. Orishi rishi. A girl who is dominatrix can ever have clean mind? Even he whip is stained with the blood of her victims. And what about her leather clothing and the steel high heeled shoes? All of them smell raw with blood. She is worse that the made up legend from bavaria; dracula.

She talks about Jesus as if she believes will approve any of her deviant behaviors! Omo buruku ni Funmilayo.

ms. dominetrix, u wanna invite that boo of urs to nyc? she omo 9ja ni, abi afo mo? either way, he and you are minced meat. ma gbagbe pe baba le mi o. ere ori igi, sheku omo edun ni.

ara oko maryland. have ever seen a subway before? even the metro in dc.

Ori e ya. Funmi omo buruku. How do you come about the oniranu? Enu e gboro kupo ju. Ara oko ara e. If I see you, i will put a dirty sock into that dirty mouth of yours. Where do you live in the Bush of Maryland? I bring Nigerian army commando to invade your neighborhood. They will defang you and render you High heel shoeless.

You think I participate in fornication? My body is not for somebody like you. Castration, if thats your style, you should practice on those weak souls and your "boo" who clamor around you.

All I ask you was food, and nothing more. A woman who goes around having "boo" who they are not married to, is not my style. A "boo" should be the spouse.

@reindeer: I condemn all act of violence against anyone, innocent. Or even guilty, long after the fact. I encourage forgiveness, in every case. Seeking the Mercy and Forgiveness as Reward by these from Allah the Almighty. Thats my Islam. I am not creating anything new. All my statements above can be found in the Qur'aan. And in the actions of Muhammad (as).

Your antlers, lol. They are very cheap. If Santa rides reindeer(s), how much is the cost of the antler of one of them? Dirt cheap.

@Bilms: Follow a person as long as he follows the prophet (AS). When he fails to follow Muhammad (AS), stop and walk away from him and join the group or persons who are following Muhammad (AS).

How do you determine those who follow Muhammad (AS)? Go to your Qur'aan, Sunnah/hadith and Sirah. Observe the actions of the Companions (RA), the next and the following generations. Also your heart will let you know what is islam and the rest is not.

If you wanna know what is good, then know that it is the opposite of evil/bad deeds. There is no way that Babalawo is acceptable in Islam. So when you hear the words of these "hypocrites" who are the leaders of Islam, in Nigeria and any other places, check the Books of Islam. 100%, you will not find their evil deeds in these Books.

Find yourself a group of "True believers, who only refer to the Books of Islam," and stick with them. You should make your own effort to keep strictly to the rules of Islam. Walk away from all evils.

MAY ALLAH PROTECT US ALL. AMIN.

@hotfunmi:« #8 on: Today at 03:59:33 AM »

I don't do ata, sorry and am a damn good cook. I am sure I cook better than your ibo and oyibo wives .

I know that you cant cook jack. I know. And I am not married to oyinbo, or non9ja woman. Someday, I would do a taste test on your kookin. You better be ready to impress. I want egusi and bitter leaves. Then many different efo stews; Shoko, Tete, Elegede, etc. lol. Ewedu with ada stew.

Now, you will make Amala, of different kind, Eba (since I am an Ijebu boy), Iyon, etc. And my favorite of all african dish is black eyepeas, with opulence of all kinds of fishes to flavor it. If you fail to impress me, I will let nairaland know.


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Whatever. Why partake in turkey eating but refuse the rituals that come with the turkey?[/quote]I personally don't do this. But I will not blame anyone who participate. Reason is that I do not see a clear religiousity in the thanksgiving. In this, Islam may not be aganst it. For example, our Prophet (AS) while Islam was already established in Madina, said that he will participate now, as he did participate in good need that he was part of those who protected the rights of the "oppressed" in Makka before Islam. When the prophet made this statement, Makka was still not conquered, so her inhabitants, for the most part were unbelievers.

If the prophet (AS) cooperated with disbelievers in good deeds, in the time of Arab ignorance, before Islam, and he said he would cooperate with them in good deeds, in the same way after light of Islam have entered the land, then we should know that Islam emphasises on good deeds more than "rejections and separations.

Aburo. Participate with me in what is good. Thats Islam. Then soon, you will lose that hardcore exterior that you falsely project. I can read you; Loud and clear.

@reindeer: Stop saying that you love relentlessly, because you don't. If you did, you will know that your discriminatory attitude towards Islam is an endictment on your "love claim."

I know there are muslims in US army, which therefore points to your silly claims that there are no good people in Islam. If you consider what America did in Iraq good. You can't have it both ways, man. You can say that islam is bad, thyen while the american soldiers are good. Yet you know there are muslims in american military! Duuh.

Santa was riding many reindeers on Macy's parade, earlier. lol. Were you there? Aburo. Oga sir.

@Mariaba: « on: Today at 04:39:36 PM »

Salaam Aleykum fellow Brothers and sisters in Islam.
I want you people to advice me on what to do because am very confuse.
I am a student in one of the Universities in Nigeria. In my first year I met a guy who is from the eastern part of this country that was asking me out I declined because He is a Christian Although I liked his person. But he insist it’s not a problem that we should just allow God see to it I still stood my ground and he accepted and choose to be my friend. And later I met a Muslim guy was happy because of the love he professed and his characteristics as a Muslim and we happen to be from the same state and speak the same tongue. I fell in love with him so much that I got to know other family member. Till date I and the sister are so close that people find it hard to believe we are not related. But lately things took turn when I knew he was cheating on me, the first time I caught him red handed, he came pleading that I just had to forgive him thinking he will change this time he actually break my heart by cheating on me again with a Christian girl and from the eastern part of the state.

I could not really bear the pains because I was so into the relationship I never cheated on him, I told him about my male friend some times he will say that I may be cheating on him with this guy the truth is we were just friends. My guy was actually cheating on me due to sex and nothing else.

I refuse to go into a sexual relationship and I told him at first he accepted the later he started pressurizing me by saying he can’t cope since he has had sex before it’s difficult for him to abstain after about 8months relationship with me. And he ended up cheating on me with a girl we all knew in the house as a friend and she even knew we were dating. It’s so painful that she is not even ashamed about it. To the extend that when I call my guy she picks the phone to warn me to stay clear off her guy it really baffles me. I cried for months and still can get over it. My friend never knew that my guy’s sister is not my cousin and he was the one that stood by me and today am so much in love with him. He never bothers me about sex for like 2 and half years now that have known him and does anything to make me happy, Am considering having sex with him soon not for anything but for love even if I don’t end up marrying him because is so frustrating meeting our fellow Muslim that will still be demanding for premarital sex. And am 22yrs and still a virgin.

Mariaba, be patient. If you are a virgin, it is a good thing. Do not lose the virginity, now with a man who is not your "HUSBAND!" Note I am not saying that he is not committed and dedicated. But he is not your husband. If he wants you, he will wait until both of you are married.

Now, if you are a true muslim, your friendship with a man should be with a "purpose, and must not be deep to the point that you are now considering having sex with him." Any sex outside "marriage" for muslim, male and female, is forbidden by Allah. Its in the Qur'aan. Read Surah Nisaa (the women). Omo mi, aburo mi, avoid all kind of illicit sexual acts. Allah says in the Qur'aan that one should not "come close" to illicit sex. You are too close to it, and it is this single reason that is leading you to wanting to lose yourself respect, to a man who as far as i am concern a stranger who has to right to get to your heart. If you want him, tell him about Islam. Let him become muslim and when he cant do without Islam, then marry him, as the reward of both of you, on earth. Your reward because you worked for his salvation into paradise, away from Hellfire. For him, because he accepted "guidance for salvation, through your hand!"

Now, look, don't fail yourself. Struggle against the temptation. Limit your being together with him, or any man for that matter to an enviroment where you will not have that sexual temptation, the urge of sleeping with him. Don't forget he is not your husband. And you can not be sure that he is the one. Finally, muslim woman's chest is not for non-muslim man to mount.

As I am writing you, I pity myself because I am in America and i have many neices in Nigeria in your age group. I wonder what their situations are. How are they doing in Islam? I think you need to improve your Islam. We are all here for you, as support for the pleasure of Allah.

The truth is my parents will not even hear of it an Igbo and a Christian for that matter.
Am just confuse, I find happiness in him and he does too but how do we go about it?
Should I stay with him or wait for another Muslim guy?
Please advice me on what to do
Jazakullah Khairan

There is nothing wrong with Igbo people. My sister was married to Igbo man. Her divorce from him is probably because she was too much. I am married to an Igbo woman. She is a delightful muslim woman. The Igbos are closer to the Yorubas by tradition than the Bambaras or Soyinkeh of Mali. Would your parents object to a muslim Fulani of Mauritania who wants to marry you, if you are willing? The only thing wrong i the picture of the young man in school with you, is that he is not a muslim. Thats all. His ethnicity is irrelivant, because we are all sons and daughters of Adam (AS). And when your young man becomes muslim, and faith has captured his heart, if he interested in you hen, do not hesitate to marry him, so that you can have a good muslim family together.

May Allah protects you. Amin. If you want you can communicate with me on aqeedahfirst@yahoo.com Tell him to communicate with me, too. I will like to introduce Islam to him. he seems to be your Trial as in "Fitna." Work hard to protect yourself and your religion.

HOtfunmi to di nkon o. You are probably a bad cook. Reason: no deviant/fetish woman can cook well! Probably its too much (epo), then the ata will be half done at best, and maybe too much salt. Too much like the spiked pomps/6 or 8 inches at least!

You think Islam is bounded by any nation? Islam is not bounded by the artificial boundary of land known as Arabia Saudia. Its the other way around: It is islam that bounds Makka, Madina, Saudi Arabia, the whole of Arabic people and the whole of the land mass and water mass of the world.

Reason: it is the religion that is ordained on mankind by The Almighty Allah.

Islam is more than Ilorin. Islam is more than Northern Nigeria. Islam is more than Madina. Islam is more than Makka. islam is more than man.

Whoever stays away from all associations (shirk), then such a person is avoiding Hypocracy. At least it is a way to avoid hell. No one should think that muslims will not have people doing evil in our rank. There are people who do not make salah, fast, give zakah, even when they have it. There are who do not practice the sunnah; men who are not wearing beard, which is the announcement to the world that they are muslims. Women not wearing Hijab, too.

Muslims who will quickly destroy other muslims, or forget Islam, at the slightest of trial. Are these muslims or are they not munafiqun, worse than the Kafiruun, and the mushrikun? Islam stands alone. Perfect and perfectly. It is the individual muslim and muslima who need "examinations".

Funmilayo: Ki lo nse iwo omo tio simi yi?

@JJYOU:

@ olabs. i can't believe you are this low. while i have your attention, any chance of you saying some nice things on your brothers work in india?

If I am low, you must be "lower" by your suggestion and opinion seeking! If you have confirmed without any doubt that it is my brothers in India that has done something, then you will carry the burden with God! My blood brothers, are many but none is in India. My islamic brothers are all over the world. Yes, also in India. We will now see how long and thorough the investigation is, so that the actual criminals be found out.

We will compare the process with others, including 911 to know if "shoddy work" was done by the investigators in any of these infamous acts of crime. I am a muslim, in my soul heart and body. So I stand on Qur'aan and Sunnah. I will like anyone to point to any part of "Qur'aan and or Sunnah," where criminal acts are allowed on anyone, including even those who are themselves not innocents?

JJYOU, when you speak, please your heart, because the brain is not functioning properly in yor reposes. If Qur'aan enjoin the muslims to be just, shall we blame Islam and all muslims for the act of some? If this is the case, should i blme you, JJYOU on every crime that a Christian commits; individually or even as a people? I am sure that if you arrive in a part of the world, today, say chechnia, somebody will have some "crime tale" to tell about a Christian; I now think it is save to say that JJYOU did it? Or any evil experience that an Iraqi or Afghani person suffered in the hands of Christian Kufr!

Omo boy, be baffled a little: In 1991, duing the first Gulf war dubbed "Desert Storm," I saw many Bombs being loaded for "Iraqi perile" while the "Christian miliatry personnels" wrote on them, "now you are going to meet your Allah," and many anti-slogans.

I remeber that there is a general in America talking about the "christian god more powerful" than the Muslim God! The Attorney General of the US, in 2002 was reported to have said that the Christian god sent his son to die, while the muslim God wants people to die from Him!

Think about this for a moment: The same people who a god sent his son to die for, will still have to die. But while they are alive do not stop killing with ammon of mass destructions the muslims who will die for their God! Who is killing the other faster?

Now watch videos under the title " Christian Missionary atrocities". resident Bush was even talking about Crusade in post 911. Now tell me: how recent shall I come to 3008, before you get it? DuuuuuH!

@JJYOU: Whats not "common sense and humility" about critiqueing myslef?

I am sure you seem not to understand that "humility is the common sense" that a person has when he/she knows and guard against what possible fault he/she may have. I am not immoral. At least we both agree. Where did i display in your highlighted phrase " lack of common sense and humility?" Enquiring mind wanna know.

And I think you should know that a person who is aware of evil and avoids it, is actually a good person. I think you are correct. He is a happy man.

Are you "Happy, JJYOU?"

@Carmelily:« #814 on: November 24, 2008, 09:31 AM »

@olabowale

what's the point you want to make?

The buhddists, also believe that their "handsome, long haired, lean youth," is devine. Thats what the Christian thinks about Jesus. isn't it, babe? The Buhddist boy performs "miracles" that must hav convinced the "Buhddists" that he is "devine."

Are you getting my drift, now? The conclusion of devinity, according to christians, which is what the Buhddists are making, is that their respective "devined" person performed "convincing miracles!" The Buhhdist guy, by the way was reported to have gone without food or liquid for 3 years, in one stretch. And to have remained motionless for over a year. Yet he is only 18 years old.

So, in conclusion, reindeer agrees wth me that Christianity was once "barbaric" too, just like Islam of today! I get it now. Christianity did not begin in the time of Jesus, but after. So we thank God Allah the Almight for this. Yet, it has close to 600 years, ahead of Islam.

Go back 600 years ago, could you say with certainty, that there was no "killing" based on Christian religious idealogue, alone? Of course, are were. Even rapes and enslavement and captives of peoples and tribes. All that was used was the "BIble" alone. The White people of Europe amputated "colored people" and dehumanized them, based on "Bible verses" alone.

South African's Afrikaan whites used the Bible for Apartheid. The American white, in their KKK clubs, "Sons and Daughters of revolution" use the "Bible!" They are still killing people, today in europe, and else where based on the Bible, alone. The mantra of "Christian god is bigger than Muslim God" is well known and established. Where have you been reindeer: in the heavy snow of "northpole with the elfs?" Stop your nonsensical.

Just now in America, a grown woman and some other cohorts taunted a young neighbor, an under age girl to commit cyberspace suicide. And unfortunately, many people saw it "live" without anyone alerting the authorities. By the way almost all of the "cyberspace audience" will chalk up Christianity as their "religion," if asked! You should be ashamed of yourself, reindeer.

CLAIMING THAT ISLAM IS BARBARIC, WHILE PRAISING CHRISTIANITY IS PURE DISINGENOUS! iF YOU SAY THAT SOME MUSLIMS ARE HORRIBLE AND MAY NOT PRACTICE ISLAM WELL, IN YOUR OWN OPINION, WHILE MANY IN CHRISTIANITY ARE BY AND LARGE MORE CHARITABLE, NOW, I MAY AGREE WITH YOU. Thats all.

@Javalove: As Salaamualaykum wa Rahmatullahi Taala wa barakatuh:

You are right. A child to me is anybody who has not reached the age of puberty, and then some. So, this age of puberty is personal, and not a definite date in time, except it is a nature "acting event" time. A boy may be 16 before he reaches puberty. So a girl may reaches her at 16. Yet some will reach theirs at 13! For me, anything after that, is maturity by gender definition, but in ability to handle societal matters, eg matrimony, is another subject matter, entirely.

Its like when a person fasts. In the summertime in the areas of the world above the tropics on the globe, the time of sunset is longer, while the time of dawn, in the morning is much earlier. So your fast may be from 3 am to 8.45 pm.

While in the winter, the same fast maybe as short as from around 6 am to 4.20 pm. So everything varies on time and place. So in the case of maturity, a group of girl friends, may reach, individually PUBERTY at different times. One girl may reach it at 12, and the last one in the bunch at 17! Yet the one who reaches her puberty at 14 or 16 among them maybe the individual who is most mentally matured among them. So for me, maturity is the ability to be mentally prepared for "marital condition as well as having menstrual period."

As a man, when I got married at age closed to 30 years old, I was not even prepared for it, nor ready for all its responsibilities and expectations. Yet, some 17 years old "boy" may have been ready and plunges into it, fully at 18!

In the case of Aisha, (RA), she was mentally matured and ready. It was not just the menstrual period alone. Thats what I mean by being matured and not just being a "CHILD!"


Finally, my age preference is my own alone. This is permissable in Islam. I remember a time that you could give me enough money to marry a 40 year old woman. Now my range is from 18 to 60! lol. But the woman, at 60, or younger, even at 18 must be "stunningly beautiful". I copy my Prophet (AS). I love women to almost to a fault.

Huxley; In america, unless those of us, who want to deny it, boys and girls are eager to experiment, on everything; drugs, drinking, Deviant (like Deepzone, lol) and lude acts, including sex. Even a conservative town "Lodi or so," outside Boston, a clique of white girls had a "bumper crop" of Babies! None of the children came out other than "white." So the boys who slept with them are all white. This is safe to say, ifwe make visual observation, only that there is no "hue" to the Children born by these young girls, all of them under 18! Barack Obama, the incoming "leader of the Civilized world" is a product of "underage mother with a frisky (almost like me except that I have my rules and Islamic morals) older man. lol.

I personally may not agree with child bride. But instead of my female folk sneaking around in back alleys, and leaving the house at night to go and have "sex" with the boys, who may quick to deny it, when she is pregnant ( and it does happen), I will allow her to marry if thats what she wants.

I remember meeting a young Black woman in Newark New Jersey, in the 1990s. She was like a 22 year old girl, with a child as old as 5. And she was in her last year in school of Engineeing, majoring in Chemical engineering. Anyone who ever studied engineering, any field of it, including the almost management, known as Industrial engineeing, will know that it needs dedication.

This girl and others, were mothers and scholars at the same times. There were young black women (and by all standarad of "numbers of years could be considered underage) who were at New Jersey Institute of Technology, in Newark, who were doing good in Engineering. Look, while I will not marry any woman under 18, but a 35 year old woman may just be as immature as a 10 year old. Yet a 14 year old "girl" is already a woman.

There is a Cameroonian girl in New York city, who at 18 married a 40+ year old man. I met her, when Lakpenne was getting married in 2001. She was ready to be a wife even long time before she did. Her maturity was well beyond her " calender age. She could have eating a 30 year old "boy" alive!

A young woman from Urhobo, and her father was a former "justice commissioner" just got married less that 3 weeks ago. She is only 22, with a first degree and now on her way to a second one. She was pushing me all summer to marry her, becaue her womb is "crying for a baby." When she realised I was not going to do it, a man came and thats all she wrote.

Will you say that a 22 year old girl running after a 50+ year old man like myself is not a "child," in every respect, when my older boy is many years older than her? Yet, she is an achiever and comes from a good home. In some situations, you will clearly see "what looks like abuse of situation." Every person is different. In 1992, I was supposed to meet this famous "singer" in California. I knew that she was immature from all I have seen on TV about her. She was in her 20s, but has that childlike look and mentality. When I llooed at her, then, she was as if the baby fat was all that she had. So I turned it down.

What I am saying is that, there is a case by case basis for people. The northern Nigerians are not 100% muslims. And this "child bride" practices, is not 100% that of northern Muslims, alone. It is practiced by tribes and cultures, different and separate from Islam. In Cameroon, I am sure that there are people who have and are doing and shall do it. The Congolese and others, in and out of Africa do it.

Even in the Ol USA! And where America goes, the West have no choice, but to follow. There are people who do things that maybe unpleasant to you all over the world. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HUXLEY is an UNPLEASANT MAN to me. Why; your DISBELIEF is completely unpleasant to me. But hey, its your decision. You have heard enough about "the Existence of THE GOD" on Nairaland.

@Kola Oloye: « #20 on: Yesterday at 09:30:23 AM »

@olabowale,
What the Silm and salaam is talking about the religion is that: it is a religion of peace.It does not proof to us that God created it.Thank you.

If Kola Oloye does not believe that God exists, then I will not be able to make any sense to him. Just the same way I have not made any sense to the "Atheist Huxley and his gang of God haters!" If however Kola Ooye believes that God does exist, then what was His purpose of creating man? If really that Kola Oloye believes that God creates man to worship (glorify) Him, then how and in what unique way, separate and apart from any other or all others?

If we label this way of worship or glorification as religion (deen; way), then which is which of all the religions of the world? We will have to look into the Books of each religion and compare it, side by side to other religion's. If we therefore set on this course, we should now realise that in Surah 5, ayah 3 expresses that He Allah, the Revealer of the Al Qur'aan has on that day by that Ayah, has perfected a "favor" on humans and choses " Islam" as the only Deen, "way" that is acceptable to Him. Further,any other way(s) is a way that will be rejected and will not be accepted!


This verse alone is enough, and very central to a good understanding to those who have "sense or thinking ability." Please refer yourself to verses in Surah Baqarah, Imran, Nisaa, Maida, An Am, and others, where the world "Islam," were used unrestrictedly, in events discribed before the Time of Muhammad (AS). In many of them Allah says to Muhammad (AS), "And you were not there, when this event occurred; except that your Lord reveal it to you (now), in truth!


There is no other "so called religion," that its book carries any indication that the "religion" is revealed by "The God" to them. So we look in the Book of Torah of Moses; Please tell me if Judaism was revealed to Moses (AS) and ordained as a religion to him for his followers? Did he practice "Judaism, ever?" Infact, there was no mention of "any religion" that was practicd by the Children of Israel, while under Coptic Egyptian rules as their "Forced slaves!"

But there was something different in their ways: they were different in actions and deeds and belief system from the Egyptians. The Children of Israel, for the most part were still following the way of their forefathers: If we start from Father Ibrahim (see my use of father her; yet Ibrahim is not the direct father of any of them!), Isiaqa, Yaquub (AS to all of them.

We should not forget that they ended up in Egypt through the initial transport of "Yusuf" into slavery by his brothers who rid him from among them, in generation gone by!



If we look into the "Goodnews" of jesus: please tell me if Jesus practiced or recommended or command "Christianity" on anyone? Is there anywhere that it is reported that the "god, according to "christians"" said that Christianity is a religion to The God? At best, we see that after Jesus was "lifted up" (please not the phrase "lifted up" is not connoting that he, Jesus "lifted himself up," but connotes that it was by "some Entity" other than him "Who" did the lifting up of Jesus), others began to postulate a separate and different "modality" of worship based on what "the core understanding" that they got from the "message" of Jesus!


If we therefore look thoroughly into this, we will see that Jesus did not say anything about a religion "Christianity," formulated after him. He followed the ways of those holy men who came before him, rather than "change their ways. This is why we read in the Bible that he Jesus, did not come to abolish "The Laws and the Prophets." Rather to "Fulfil them", and he Jesus discouraged anyone who shall go against him, after he will be no more around to "argue against and disclaim" any such "action," whereby he called such a person "less" in the Kingdom of God!

I am sure that "less" is not a term of "endearment" but a term to show "disobedience" if you compared it to "great" in the Kingdom of God!



Muhammad (AS) practiced Islam, and it is indicated that Ibrahim (AS) did, since he "prayed in Makka" along with his son Ismail (AS), while they built the Kaaba at Masjid Haraam. Please note that there is a place known as "Maqaam Ibrahim" (Station of Ibrahim), to this day in around Kaaba.

Can anyone, with any sense of "good religion" say to us that the religion of Ibrahim is different from what earlier prophets and later prophets (AS) practiced? Did Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, any of them practiced other religion except what Ibrahim practiced? Is this religion different from Islam, until it WAS COMPLETED AS A FULL UNADUTERATED RELIGION, A FAVOR ON MAN through MUHAMMAD?