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@Marymos: « #7 on: Today at 04:26:20 PM »

@Olabowale,i don't know from which dimension to respond to u.your response sound vague.Please what do u understand by salvation,

ransome and forgiveness, instead of punishment. Thats Mercy frm the Only One can Truly gve it, the Owner; God Almighty Who is One!

regeneration,

a new beginning, a clean slate, whereby all the sins are wiped off.

second birth

changing of way from evil to good, but the christians thing that they are children of father god, Son God and Holy Ghost God, almost a physical birth. this is the biggest crock of all time, next to Trinity making a One God, or death of an innocent man as a means of expediation or ransome of their sins, while the laws and commandments of God to human is made fun of.

and repentance.

Asking for forgiveness.


Now, all of these above do not matter if you fundamentally circumvent the very foundation for any and all of the above to be considered by The ONLY GOD, because you say God is 3, and that he did not create at least 2; Jesus and Holy Ghost. Lets start from there if you wanna discuss specifics.

@Ogaga4Luv: « #99 on: Today at 11:20:37 AM »

Man has never been the same since God died

this above should serve as my answer about your talking about the Christian God when you ask me what did you notice on my post. . .?huh??


On another matter, since you consider yourself a god now that you realised that you were talking to yourself when you prayed, I think led you to "athiezm", I will therefore postulate that everytime you talk under your breath, or think in your heart (quite talk/inner talk/conversation) you are playing god, again. No?

we already know that Zakat is in Quran. she said tithe, a christian carry over, it seems, the reason Abuzola made his observational commentary. we dont behave like people of jahiliyyah, Christians, Jews, other pagans. That should let you know what i was saying all along until its now spread out on the table before you.


Islam have no need for tithe. we have zakah in the month of ramadhan and sadaqah all year round.

dude nezan; she is not more of a wife of my than the woman I have not made a nikah with! and if I sleep with either I will be committing Zina, period. my inheritance has to be divided according to Sharia of Allah, observing every part of it, InshaAllah. So my prayer is that all those who are older than me would have died long time before I die, while I pray that I die long time before those who are younger than me!

you argue like a pagan. Sorry, I forgot. Christian bowing to three god! You slave of Jesus! And I hope you dispute this fact, that you are no Jesus slave, then I can nail you to the cross, too. And you will not die, too!

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Allah (Arabic: الله‎, Allāh, IPA: [ʔalˤːɑːh] ( listen)) is the standard Arabic word for God.[1] While the term is best known in the West for its use by Muslims as a reference to God, it is used by Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, in reference to "God".[1][2][3] The term was also used by pagan Meccans as a reference to the creator-god, possibly the supreme deity in pre-Islamic Arabia.[4]

The concepts associated with the term Allah (as a deity) differ among the traditions. In pre-Islamic Arabia amongst pagan Arabs, Allah was not considered the sole divinity, having associates and companions, sons and daughters - a concept which Islam thoroughly and resolutely abrogated. In Islam, the name Allah is the supreme and all-comprehensive divine name. All other divine names are believed to refer back to Allah.[5] Allah is unique, the only Deity, creator of the universe and omnipotent.[1][2] Arab Christians today use terms such as Allāh al-ʼAb ( الله الأب, "God the Father" to distinguish their usage from Muslim usage.[6] There are both similarities and differences between the concept of God as portrayed in the Qur'an and the Hebrew Bible.[7]

Now,David, if the Muslims are pagans because the preIslamic arab pagans used Allah as their creator-god deity, based on your Wikipedia source, written by nonMuslims, then we have to apply the idea across the board, to include Jew and Christian Arabs! Heck all arabs are pagans then. NO?

Yet it was from among them, Arab and European christians who brought Christianity to Africa. Or it is Arab Christians who accepted Christianity first before English people. Afterall, the jews refused to accept Christianity. Heck, if this is the case, those who transfer Christianity to you were pagans, hence you are a pagan, for sure. Waraqah was a pagan by you account. NO?

@davidylan: « #71 on: Today at 05:02:47 PM »
[Quote]Thats not true for the following reasons:
1. "God" in arabic means ILAH, very similar to ELAH in hebrew.
2. Allah means "The god" in arabic - ordinary wikipedia shld set you straight on that FACT.
3. Was allah the same "god" that mohammad's grandfather was worshiping as an idol before naming his son abdallah (slave of the god)?[/quote]You davidylan may actualy be the biggest brain washed out person that I know. I was listening to the new Christian Rifqah girl yesterday with the glistering , sory glittring medallion cross on her shedding croc tears, and I laughed at her silly soul.

You david, is tag over her, if you say ILAH is God similar to jewish ELAH, an ALLAH, or Allah is The god as if Muslims worship idols, or idol! Look at yourself when you pray: you will see three idols in your heart. At least you will see yourself praying to or through the one strung up! Wikipedia will give you such a definition of muslims being idolators, especially when your heart eye is already blind.

no, you are blind, and thats the reason you read it so. Go wear a lab eye guard to read, because that will help you to probably see whats in front of you, if only the cross is removed from your eye lid first.

@davidylan: « #71 on: Today at 05:02:47 PM »

Thats not true for the following reasons:
1. "God" in arabic means ILAH, very similar to ELAH in hebrew.
2. Allah means "The god" in arabic - ordinary wikipedia shld set you straight on that FACT.
3. Was allah the same "god" that mohammad's grandfather was worshiping as an idol before naming his son abdallah (slave of the god)? ]/quote]You davidylan may actualy be the biggest brain washed out person that I know. I was listening to the new Christian Rifqah girl yesterday with the glistering , sory glittring medallion cross on her shedding croc tears, and I laughed at her silly soul.

You david, is tag over her, if you say ILAH is God similar to jewish ELAH, an ALLAH, or Allah is The god as if Muslims worship idols, or idol! Look at yourself when you pray: you will see three idols in your heart. At least you will see yourself praying to or through the one strung up! Wikipedia will give you such a definition of muslims being idolators, especially when your heart eye is already blind.

no, you are blind, and thats the reason you read it so. Go wear a lab eye guard to read, because that will help you to probably see whats in front of you, if only the cross is removed from your eye lid first.

@Nezan: « #209 on: Today at 01:56:36 PM »  

Stop running and answer my questio.
See the scenerio unfolding ,,,,,,,

Your scenerio is very tangental.

1. Islamic writers al-Tabari and ibn-Sa'd wrote about satanic verses.

Neither was a companion, or from the second or third generations. They are not 100% authority ion Islam! The only who cant be challenege by another man was Muhammad (AS). The only One Who cant be challeneged by any being is Allah.

2. muslims later discredit al-Tabari and ibn-Sa'd's for recording the saga of the satanic verses.

The discreditting is because they were wrong. Should they have been left alone without due and proper commentary? If there was truce betweem the muslims and the pagans by the alleged Satanic verses, could there have been two minor Hijras to Abyssinia's King Al Nagashi territory? 2 Hijra were made to this palec, meaning there 2 sets/waves of people out of Makka seeking safety in Ethiopia. Tell me why, if there was an agreement in worship, even for a moment?

3. many years after, an islamic writer produces a fictional novel with the title 'satanic verses'.

True to its fiction form, except that you think its is true, hence you continue to beat the drum for it.

4. a muslim supreme ruler in Iran declares a fatwa for revisiting the satanic verses saga and ordered copies of the book to be burnt.

So? No one person or country speaks for the whole of the muslims, except the kalifa which we do not have, today. Thanks a lot keferi in power.

5. islamic countries rose against the author and the fatwa is validated in all islamic countries and copies of the book burnt in all islamic countries and the author seeks and get assylum in a foreign non-islamic country.

Liars sometime should the anger of the masses, its a show of unity. Justice may be effective and as simple as demostration.

How then are you dissociating yourself from Ayatollah's fatwa? What were they trying to hide? Do they want the satanic verses saga to be swept under the carpet

He is neither a shia, nor Iranian. More over he is not Ayatullah! Those are the facts, man.

@Miracle85: Change religion. The litmus of a true way/religion is the unchangingness of its holy book. Too many versions, one different from the other is what we have of the Bibles. Further a catholic person living next door to an anglican church cant attend the service. And if any chance a baptist arrives in his own church for service 40 minutes into a one hour service, he leaves with everyone, without a make up of the 40 minutes he missed at the beginning. There is no order to the religion of Christianity, named after the title of jesus, who himself was not a Christian nor did he leave a word behind that christianity must be established, that would have nullified the way he worshipped while alive, reading in the Bible that he prostrated his face in worship of his Lord Who sent him, many times at the Garden of geshemane,


@Marymos: No one is God's Child. We are His creations, and we are our human parents' children, all having a Single Lord God Creator.

Ogaga4Luv is speaking about Christian God when he said God died. Ogaga4Luv is speaking about Jew and Christian God when he said God made us to look just like Him. Fortunately Allah God of the Muslim is neither of the two. This God of the muslim is Unique in every respect, not like His creations and not dead, ever.

Whats unfortunately, people like Ogaga4Luv spoke so much about Christian God, maybe because of his Christian back ground but forgot that Allah of Islam was before anything, has no partner and full of power, ability, knowledge to do all things.

The original question from Kola Oloyede was if a religion was created by God for human, now, here is my answer; He ordained a religion, hence by definition a religion is created by Him for mankind to follow as a test of obedience to His Commands.

That religion by definition is Islam; willingly (peacefully, without any coersion), submission to the Command, Will of Allah. Afterall, it is faith/belief that is in play here. This Allah is no seen, touched, smelled, but the heart of a believer takes Him to be Lord God in existnce, by knowledge in faith of His signs, all that exist, known and unknown.

was. and when my inheritance/estate is divided, she has nothing in it.

its a metaphoric statement about your personal desire tithe which you claim God, sorry Trinity ordained on you!

Reindeer dont make me laaff! How is a girl in far away Ohio run to Florida, when all along her parents and her were not in any religious disagreement, except that the hand of Shaitan is wiped over her by the Christians in Florida reaching out to grab her from the path that is straight (siratal Mustaquim) without any crockedness? This reminds me what the american called parental supervision. If the parents have been monitoring her flippancy on face book, she would never have fallen for "good in the outside but rotten to the core 3 gods in 1" gimmick that she found herself in the follow the leader thing that she is in, now!

How do you compare 3 gods, alway equal and always complete, especially when one of the gods dies, and the earth didnt move and the other is a ghost, doing nothing except driving the dead god before his death into the wilderness right into the arms of the devil to tempt him, again and again, while the third is sitting around (this is all in your Bible and am not making a single thing up, except am giving you a common sense analysis), doing nothing probably enjoying to One Complete God Allah without partnership?

If the three gods seemed to have tried to undermine one another as you can see above, especially the dead one to defend this former Ohio girl, how is that going to be possible? I feel for the lost soul; this is a good proof that if you dont wanna be hedonic evilness dont go sit around them for too long.

Its the same as the Yoruba saying that the sheep that is in the clique of dogs will consume what dog consumes!

You must be out of your mind! Were you there and or did he say it or its your allucination that is making you say this? You must have been going to the websites of the Mutamushriquun again. I told you they are bad for you. they will make you acquire lying syndrome.

Osisi, diagonise the situation, young girl.

@Banom: « on: Yesterday at 10:38:19 AM »

Christians and Muslims, how will you feel, if in the end there is no God, ? and all you have done in the name of God happens to be wastes and it turned out that Atheists are right .
What will you do ?

Atheists start out half Muslims anyhow. The deficiency of the atheists is the arrogance thinking that all of the complex collages of "unduplicated creation" is an accidental chance! You should ask yourself what if you are wrong with all the evidences that you reject outright? Can God be blamed for metering out the due Justice on you?


@ogogoro :« #2 on: Yesterday at 10:55:20 AM »

I hoped not to plonk out a Bible here, but I feel that this is relevant to this discussion. Coming from the man himself, here is what who doesn't believe in Jesus has to lose -
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him. 9John 3:36)
I guess it's up to you to compare the cons in both cases.

Jesus didn't say that. You and your Bible writers said thats what Jesus said. Jesus knew better not to say that he is a son of his Creator! Why would the Creator have a child, which will negate His Creator Position, since that will not be 100% anymore?


@banom (m): « #3 on: Yesterday at 11:08:20 AM »

So you are saying that all those millions of Jews in Israel who don't believe Jesus is the son of God and they do not believe the gospel of Mohammed will all go to hell, despite being the chosen one ?

Tell him banom! At least Muslims say that they 100% submit to God,in Ebglish, Allah in Arabic, Olorun in Yoruba, Chukwu in Igbo, Obangiji in Hausa. You cant be chosen and mentain that status f you ignore and disbelieve in any prophet of the Creator. This disbelief in a prophet (AS) knocks Jews and Christians out of the box!

marriage is more priceless. and igbo masqurades are not that evil, except there is a chain around your waist to yank you into place. you are still a woman. if you marry a non-muslim, you will in front of people kneel down with some kinda liquid (kainkain, or palmwine, or other), to let the elders know who the man is.

if you marry a muslim, you will not have to be subjected to humiliation of kneeling down and getting him a Kainkain or palmwine as if you a servant! You dont even have to cook for him, because thats not part of what your role description includes, except you wish to do so. None of the house help, house maid, house girl responsibility; look at the Quran and the hadith for confirmation.

You will be living large and if you are truly wild, you will have a chance to live up to the name. Go sidon, woman, and masqurading is not when you are covered up, only. Over exposure is also masqurading.

@Nezan: I dont know how to deal with your stiffened neck attitude, you stiff necked dude! Lol.
I wanted to response to you, but I thought its better that I give you a link where you can knock yourself out with the wealth of information in there.
So here it is; www.tafsir.com. That should do it. You will find many authors of Tafsir of Quran with references to ahadith where applicable.

Ibn Kathir is a good tafsir scholar. Now you have the key and i will be disappointed if you still continue to figget like you do not see.

WikiAnswers - Names of the wives of prophet muhammad
Quran question: Names of the wives of prophet muhammad?
Prophet Muhammad (saw) had 12 wives, 9 were alive at the time of his death. 1.
wiki.answers.com/, /Names_of_the_wives_of_prophet_muhammad - Cached - Similar -


Now about the Sunnah: There is no Sunnah in marriage, except Fard; Quranic injuctions; Hello o. Anybody home? Lol.

For you to know better, since you are ignorant about the Marriages of the Prophet (AS), why its more than 4 for everyone, read Surah Azhab and see that Allah does not stop any muslim from marrying even almost to death bead, but thats not what happened with Muhammad! You have to read it, because I will not spoon feed you on this. You guys are men, husbands and fathers, not infants, or little babies! Haa.

@WildOne: You forgot that am fasting and am up for hours, already. You better wake up and get married. The way I am seeing your energy, you need a muslim husband to calm you down. I know some Igbo Muslims who are young enough. But lets discuss that after Ramadhan!

@Nezan: I read Hafs, Warsh, Uthmani writing of Quran. And am not an Hafidh of Quran. I know Sheikh Hassan, of Brooklyn, Sheikh Muhammad of Midtown Manhattan, just notable example among over a million around the world read all of the styles of Quran prints and none have said that one is incorrect.

when you pick up Warsh Quran, you know that the Qaf is written like Waa with a dot at the top, and the Faa is written like a Waa with a dot at bottom.

when you pick up Hafs Quran, you know that the Qaf is written like Waa with two dots at the top, and the Faa is written like a Waa with a dot at the top.

Now is that so difficult for you to absorb?

Did jesus predict that he will be beaten up, strung up too? If he liked it as if prepared for it, why prayed against it so much he wept, cried, begged so many time, every which way from evening to morning time? And lamented about why he was forsaken by another God, if jesus was the little God like the onishongos, etc? And finally he asked for his followers to sell their few clothes to almost become naked so that they can buy Swords, which they did, anyhow, proofs that he really predicted and prepared for the death?

Let me ask you; what shall we be expecting in the Darby Bible to be published? We are happy that Muhammad (AS) died of combination of old age, poison, etc. Muhammad said he was a human being and human beings are expected to die. Finally a non human, a God dying? Why take the nature/quality of man? Or he is half man had other as if some mythical being? Never become a whole of either, no wonder the evolutionists are making their case so unrelenting!

Back then I was in the West. Never have travelled to the North! You see how your assumption is so terrible? I wished I had attended the Quranic Schools. I leave the jollof statement alone, because I have'nt had any in ages.

How is Tunisia far flung from Egypt, in the same way Togo is far flung, or Cameroun if far flung from Nigeria? You are not making any sense, but just throwing wildly to see if something will stick. The dead god statement aught to be directed to the Christians, but dead human prophets (AS), those are ours!

Allah Willing, if you remain alive in your wildone way, in 50 years Igbo Muslim will be significant enough that they will improve you from not being a believer to believing that the Allah you think now is dead or not existing is actually the ONLY GOD that you must worship!

Please go take a dip in the Ocean. I think the sun heat is beating you hands down.

show me an african black rabbi leading a white jew/ european jew in their religious services.

more than 4, nor you have ur answer.

another personal desire being proclaimed as ordained by God,

and He says He does not have a son, either.

if a person divorced a spouse that spouse is no more legal to sleep with, otherwise if not remarried yet, it will be fornication, but if married already, it shall be adulery. do you commit adulery with your spouse? you have one. Yes?

difference between 70 and 72 is 2! 2 years is at least 720 days! and your counting 30 wies for the prophet (as) is your own making, similar to you saying that I have 3 wives now, counting my ex as my wife, still. your action is deceitful.

WikiAnswers - Names of the wives of prophet muhammad
Quran question: Names of the wives of prophet muhammad?
Prophet Muhammad (saw) had 12 wives, 9 were alive at the time of his death. 1.
wiki.answers.com/, /Names_of_the_wives_of_prophet_muhammad - Cached - Similar -

i have alot of arabs as friends. and a good number attend masajid where the imams are black africans or black american! what are you talking about? tell me a place where a jew will let you lead him and i will mention masajid where arabs go and the imams are black as coal!

you must be kidding me.

if what said were true, you may have a point. but they are not, the reason you dont have an edition committee in the past 1400 plus years! if binding parchments into a complete book, is the edition that you mean, then the last one was during the kalifah of Uthman ibn Affan (RA), before the ascendancy of Ali AbiTalib (RA).

that is a mark differnce from whats gonna happen with the Bibeli in USA very soon. while Quran verse mentains that your book is corrupt, you help support the notion with all kind of proofs; thread on nairaland discussing versions of Bible, piting one against the other. another thread accusing a sect older by a newer one, while the newer one accuses even a more recent sect as heretic! talk about pot calling kettle black!

i hape you can see that 1400 plus years is 1400 plus years earlier and so doing advantage that so much so over what is about to happen to your Bible and you cant do anything about what decision your leader makes. it actually proofs what Quran said; you worship the word of your leader, by so doing you worship alse God(s)!

when you return home from new zealand, am not hoping so, but just in case you are not married then, and he for some reason is still single then, thats a husband in the wait. abi? Toasting if thats the process of engagement, is not so complicated. Afterall, the Oyinbo people say love is blind. Its justice they hope is not blind.

@Skyone: « #72 on: Yesterday at 06:48:32 PM »

Quote from: alimat 2 on Yesterday at 12:05:09 PM
@Skywhatever
Don't avoid this question can u also reply sincerely?
If u can sincerely reply abuzola then u get your answer.
If u can think such about RAMADAN in your brain then why don’t u think about why xtains don’t fast together, I want u to think Y xtians don’t do things in common, y there is no brotherhood in xtianity, Y xtian fast is not based and supported by the bible, Y fasting is not compulsory for all sectors of xtians, where is unity in xtianity?
Pls kindly reply this then Muslims will tell u what RAMADAN is.
Even if u say the fast is just like a skip of lunch at least all Muslims in the world observe it together with peace, I hope that will also happen in xtian world


pls shut up ya mouth there what do you know follow, follow. Probably your pajab or whatever cant let you see the light, slowpoke

why do you tell a woman to shut up. what did she say that warrant such a hard and harsh rebuff? se bi eyin kiriyo se ma nse si awon obinrin ni yi?