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@KunleOshob: Darby Pubication Company of the United States, the Publisher of the NIV Bible, is now going to edit and publish the "latest" Bible Version of the NIV. The issues that will be improved or made uptodate, shall include, but not limited to gender. Now the question is; how shall this affect the "recognition qualification of false prophets," if one is to consider that improvement can be made to something that is "not perfect" prior to the making of that "improvement?"

Can the True word of True God really be improved upon, except if its made belief word of God or made belief God?

@Pastor AIO; « #17 on: Yesterday at 07:41:08 PM »

Another point: Muslims tell the story of Abraham destroying the idols in the Kaaba and telling the people of Makkah that if they are real gods then they will be able to protect themselves. This is a tale that Muslims would be wise to meditate on. Too many muslims take it upon themselves to fight for Allah. Is it that Allah cannot defend himself?

Idols in Kaaba, in the days of Ibrahim (AS)? Was it before he built it or after it, when it is known that he left his son and the young wife, Ismail and Hajar, respectively, in a desolated land? I think you are talking about when Ibrahim was still in Ur, the old city state of his bloodline in Iraq. You should go back to your history source and reverify it, all over, again! I thought you knew something about Makka?

If you said Muhammad (AS), I would say that you are correct. I wonder if you do not know that Islam of Muhammad (AS) was completed after the Kaaba is rid, completely of IDOLS!

you wont understand that the poison cant be only thing that accounted for his (as) death or can it, after surviving it for many years? i think you forgot that he died at 63, much older than jesus, according to your bible. much older than john, too. no? shall we then diminish the position of a person by they wy he dies? Jesus by hanging, John by beheading and Muhammad surviving poison for many years before dying? you are out of your league in this matter and many others, man!

to count his late wife as if she was alive when he died (AS) is a process of disingenous. to count my ex as my wife still is dishonesty. and thats the game you are playing. am neither her husband nor she my wife, still.

nezan is finally making changes. at least he is not drumming the 72 virgins, and he is now at least in above saying its 20! and the christians who bomb abortion clinics, killing drs. and patients are fighting for who, killing in whose name; except the biblical go(s)? pat roberson advocates more killing than hitler and someday, a person sick enough to get carried away with the rapture mess may just take him up on it.

somebody's soldier is another person's terrorist! and i have heard many people say they are soldiers for jesus! I wonder what soldiers do, except kill?

@Nezan:« #81 on: Today at 12:55:57 PM »

@ olabowale, your rather very long post doesnt change any of these facts:

It was not meant for you heart of steel. Stone sometimes cry and you see the wetness when you lift it up, after a good soaking of rainfall. Steel rots, such a heart you have; hard and rotten.

*That Jesus is God the Son, at the name of which every knee shall bow, including yours and mohammed's

No knees will bow, because knees dont bow. Bad processing. Head bows. But if any knee bows, it is that of Kufar, like you, in the same way the orishongo knee down before their altars! And dont forget that Muhammad (AS) already led Isa bin Mariam and all the other prophets and Malaika Jibril (AS) in Salah Alal-Ibrahima in Ilya's Masjid Aqsa in Isra part of Isra wa Miraj Journey!

*That a typical muslim eats a heavy early breakfast and a heavy late dinner and claims that he is fasting

Why dont you take up my challenge and see say kaki no be fake leda, ogbeni? You cant do it, can you?

Now let me tell you, Christian fast is for spiritual upliftment in contrast to your claims that you fast to have a feel of the experience of the poor, let me tell you, why a rich muslim eats assorted foods in the morning and evening while claiming to fast, a poor moslem eats 'akara' with 'palp' in the morning and possibly a poor meal in the evening. That explains why poor muslims hide and eat at every time of the day during the ramadan fast.

I drank water this morning before dawn. Akara and Ogbi is even more expensive than water. And InshaAllah, I will break my fast at Sunset, a minute or two after. I do not eieve that it is the quality of food that will prevent the pang of Aawe to gbo e! I lifted for your benefit the reason for fasting, the most being commandmend from the Creator, you are giving me your "christian mumbo jumbo for spiritual uplifting fasting reason!"

Who commanded fasting on you, except Jesus was copying as to make sure that Moses' Mt. Sinai tradion remains. The same tradition you cancelled out on your own. The same tradition you nnow say its been reduced to Love your God and neighbor!

Ogbeni, stop this charade. Today, Darby Bible Company of America, the Publisher of NIV Bible is preparing to once more edit the Bible to make in your lifetime the Quranic verse that says that you have no Bible to stand on comes alive and be proven true, again!

And the wildone is a front row spectator with a selection of beach drinks. She is a honest broker in all of this. But its interesting that she suddingly wrote frigging instead of what she meant in her heart. She is playing hypocrite or she is getting civilized, calming down from that Wildone living it up mannerizm!

@Wildone:« #31 on: Today at 07:17:10 PM »

Olabowole, what do you mean by "Its not like that you have a big long from your look."?

Lung I meant. You should have been able to read it without you asking me. You are not as wild as you pretend to be. I think you need to walk to a masjid in Aba, or in Enugu or another place, even Port Harcourt and see how an Igbo Muslim person is going to thread you, the dog owner and help your dog to attain the freedom due it away from you. You seem to me like an animal abuser, because you named this beloved dog a name that you hate so venomously! Haa.

Anyways, I suggest you do more research on the "Six Day War" and find out the Arab countries that sided with Egypt. Far-flung countries like Tunisia and Sudan sent men and hardwares. In that conflict, Europe looked on and refused to take sides. Yet Israel whupped butts.

Whats far flung about Sudan and Egypt when both used to be the same people; coptic and nubia tribes, like igbo's arochukwu and imochukwu people, or Yoruba and Igbo and Arewa people; all Nigerians. Abeg, let me hear word. You are not as wild as I thought. Its all talk and no real action, from your being a beach bum or comber just malaising from afar. You want a fatawa, go to a home of a muslim family with your dog, in Igboland and introduce yourself, and your dog!

I was alive then during the six days war. Were you? And you should know that the people in authority write whatever they wish to write by the media powerfulness. I have personally met and hosted at least a Jew who participated in that war. His name is Lewis Elford, a Brit. And know a former Jew who was in their Military and when he became Muslim, they ran him out of there. He now lives in Brookly by the name Musa Cohn. Continue with your wild stories and the Jews dont care about your nigerian woman support. They are probably laughing at you about your black woman support which they have no need for! They consider you an inferior, anyway with still a new brain, unused! Thats their jokes among themselves about black people, worldwide.

@Wildone:« #78 on: Today at 03:53:59 PM »

Whatever, twerp. So what if she works in a muslim country and I am in a non-muslim country? Sin should be sin, regardless of location or didn't the frigging son of a bitch you call prophet Mohammed teach u better. I dare you guys to also declare a fatwa on my head.

Since you want Fatwa on your head so much, just maybe you are a such a tough girl, truly a wildone, with real gut, you can go to Ibadan, Ijebu ode, Abeokuta, Ilaro, Epe, Ikorodu, Lagos, Oyo, Ogbomosho, Ede, Iwo, and a lot of many other yoruba villages, towns or villages. Go to a mosque and sit around with your dog, and introduce yourself and your dog's name, and see what happens to you! I will like you to try about 20 Mosque, if you are really a wildone and truly yo are living it up! Someone will tell you what time it is, for real. It takes just one person to deal with you and giv you a taste of fatwa.

But then, I am not encouraging you, because you will be bruised up to badly that i pity you already. If you do it, you truly deserve the outcome because you are a wildone who loves to live it up, quickly, too. Your case reminds of a situation in Surah Kahf!

And you open your mouth to call me a LovePeddler? How did your sanctimonious ass know what a LovePeddler is? You are probably one of these perverts who sneak down to the red light districts to get your freak on every Friday straight from the mosque where you go to prostrate to the dead god called allah.

Please Abuzola dont call her any name. You dont know, so you cant accuse her. May Allah forgive us all, as long as we wish and seek His Forgiveness.

It's good for you sha. I mean, you need all the practice you can get here on earth, to be able to handle the 70 whores your silly allah is going to offer you when you guys meet up in paradise, right?
Buncha deluded goons.

I did not even ask you to go to the north, so that you dont use it to bash the northern people in a generic sense, forgetting that from among them you have Christians and traditional religion people and bindex is an atheist, too.

@Wildone: You shout to much. Its not like that you have a big long from your look. But thats beside the point.

Dude, go brush up on your history. All the arab countries usually contribute both men and hardware whenever one of them is fighting Israel. Even from far flung countries like Tunisia, Libya & Algeria. The Russians also render military support to the Arabs during such conflicts.

From your wildone id and pattern of speech, I can safely state that you a post 1973 child. In 1973 Isreal was almost single handledly beat up by Egypt until President Nixon send in reinforcements, both in Jewish men and Arian white men and logistics, miitary hardwares. In 2006, the summer that israel will not forget for while, they could not defeat Hisballah, without America rushing new ammo to them. Emptil, the Jewish army is dubbed one of the best in the world. Dudette, I live in USA and am sure that a jew will speak with me before the day is over. I have just finished talking to Bob Kramer, clearly a jewish man. You wanna tell me about jews, when you only see handful of them or you see them only on TV? Please be wildly sensible! The best storyteller is the one who reads it and argues it against an eyewitness! You happen to be the best story teller along with those who have your Lying attitude on Nairaland! All of you are post 1973 births!

In fact, the only nation that supports Israel is the US. Europe is always unwilling to get involved cos they don't want the Arabs to with hold their oil from them.

Wrong again. Whereever America goes, England will have no problem being blindfolded and led to it! Go read up on world history. And read up on the European efforts on the existence of Israel!

Face it - your brothers are just a buncha cowards who are only good in strapping dynamites to themselves and blowing up defenceless people, even school children

You may be right on this one. I think Ishak Shamee and the gang of Zionists who later became Jewish state leaders bombed, cowardly King Davis' Hotel in Palestine before Israel for roguely created?. No?

The Yorubas have a saying; everyday belongs to the rouge, thief, etc, except the one day that shall belong to the one who have been victimized, stolen from, time and again.

Remove american military support. the western support both in monies and ammos. the ragtag palestinians should be enough for the yellow belly jews, very afraid to die because they are greedy for life! If the Jews are what I see Crown Height section, Borough park, etc neighborhoods of NYC, they will be easily gotten by te palestinians. The thing they love for the most part are money and more money and love of life. they cant fight if oyinbo people were to cut them loose and fend for themselves.

If they could, dont you know that they could bombed or invaded places like Saudi Arabia, etc all this while?

@Nezan: I never made comment about what she was. You know my position toward being a kiriyo ati awon keferi mi, all of you a keferis. The point is the man can seek out a potential wife on any site; the christian and muslim sections on nl, and others are not restricted as to exclude his intention!

And not many muslims go on porn sites, definitely not as much as christians, anyway.

This is a wildone for real. You should nameyour dog the wildone. the dog must be loved to you. Name her after yourself. Thats shows true love.

Live it down. The NIV people (Darby Publishing Company, in US) is gonna edit your Bible. That is a today's era proof of "perect wrd of Christian God" needing improvement! I think you need to face reality before you start taking up Yiddish lingo: (The Jews in America say Schmuck; thats Yiddish).

and after its all said and done, Skyone refused the challenge!

@Nezan: « #6 on: Yesterday at 11:12:06 AM »

Olabowale and mind games.
Are all russians christian?
All those soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan, are they christian?
Were russians killing chechans in the name of Christ?, BTW, your terrorist utter 'allahu akbar' before launching their attack, meaning they are killing in the name of allah

Nezan, there is something called follow the leader. The West are for the most part mainly Christians. Hence when the leadership like George Bush says its "Crusade", anyone with anything up there knows he was doing Christian works. When an active General in the US Military says that the Christian God is bigger than the Muslim God, we know that when he commands the soldiers to kill muslims, he was doing Christian works. When the Attorney General says that the Christian God sent His Son to die for their sins, while the Muslim God ask you to send your sons to die for Him, we know that he was doing Christian Works. And when a congressman says that the Mosque in Makka should be bombed to get the attention of the Muslims, we know that he is doing Christian works.

You may not say that you are fighting for Jesus, the same hypocrasy that will not let you truly turn your other cheek when push comes to shove, is showing up again, seeing that the military boys chalked the side of the bombs with "now you get your virgins," and others, we know that you are warring for Jesus.



@Daidylan: I think you did not notice my saying tat "no body cares about Christianity" as a response to your 50 yeas remark against islam.

Name it Wildone. Its a beast anyhow. Its cousins are Dingos from Australia's outbacks, Wolves from the Americas, Wild Dogs from African plains! Your dog should be named after what is dearest to your heart. From your hatred of Islam, it should not be anything Islamic, except if you hate that darn dog.

I think somebody needs to report you to humane society, if you hate your dog, while you are pretending to be a lover of animal. You remind of Michael Vick before he was busted for breeding dogs for Dog Fights. If they dont pay good dividends they are mistreated and even electricuted. Dont be an insensitive dog owner!

Sunsetting is the beginning of your visual darkness for night.

Dawn is when night is beginning to disappear giving way to the coming day, which its light is starting to come from above the darkness of the dying night! Sunrise, is sometimes after dawn.

And as to the North Pole, bear in mind and dont let your mind be bare, that Ramadhan does not come at a specific time in the Gregorian calender! Every year it comes down between 11 to 14 days, until sometimes the people who live in the almost on ending light in Summer will enjoy almost unending darkness, when Ramadhan falls in the winter months. What marks the beginning of fast is the dawn and what ends it is the sunset!


The rest is gravy, man! You live in England, your country people who are muslims must be fasting longer than us in the US. And weare fasting longer than the people in Nigeria. Why? It is still summer months, and we live in more northernly lands than those closer to the Equator, where in Winter and Summer the length of day is not changing significantly.


I ask you that you take up the challenge, just to proof Islam wrong, you have been quite about it. I am going to assume that you cant do it, because the truth will bite you hard.

You believed wrongly, man. Just like your belief in 3 Gods, and you think they are 1 God!

@Nezan: Why would I be denying the obvious and something I participate in? Please lo sun.

@Nezan: « #11 on: August 26, 2009, 09:38 AM »

@ Olabowale,
Just like the extremely wealthy Ayatollah hired Ahmedinejad against the wishes of Iranian people to rule for him, eh? And the violence in the middle east persists daily, killing innocent people, and all the rulers there are muslims!

The election of George W. Bush in 2000 to US Presidency is exactly an appointment by the Supreme Court, with a conservative majority on the bench! Same thing as above, but then am not an Iranian, and what happened in Nigeria is no difference!

And as to the middle east, when Islam took hold of the people and before the West lead by England and company sowing the seed of division among the Muslims, which eventually killed of for the moment "the kalifah office", held last by the Othoman Turks in Istanbul, there was no single killing or "Harb" War among the Muslims, and indeed the middle East! As much as I do not like the the behavior of the middle Eastern leadership, since they seem to be the "banner carrier" of Islam (Not Really), they at least know that the blood of man is secred!

But no, the Christian Europe had to put their nose in the affairs of Islam, stirring up things between Arabs and Turks, the holder of the office of the Kalifa. If only the Christians can just keep their three gods and turn the other cheeks nose and arm twisting out of the affairs of the Muslims, we will be alright. And you can take the nations, Tribes, people of your god along too. We will be fine without your medling!

@Wildone: Am just wondering what you want the "West Born or native" Muslims to do because Computer is now "West" idea, as if the idea developed out of the effort and or the benefit of Christianity or Judaism?

I am sure that you know that a number of lilly white people are now Muslims, and should they give up wearing slacks, etc and the americans among them stop being yanks? Be sensible and not being ladylike does not bother me, but lacking good reasoning in argument is what you need to improve upon.

I wonder if anyone in a community insults what is hold dear by the majority of the community, he or she should not at least hear some complaint about the insensitivity? After the West says when you are in Rome, you behave like the Romans, at least dont cricize them so boldly and so openly, with impunity. And not only the muslim men wear beard; Christians coptic leadership and other Orthodoxes of christianity do and so do the Jewish conservatives like the acidim, etc. And you know that there is no prophet, including your god, Jesus who was clean shaven.

There was no Gillette, of Schick, and other shaving razor blade company was in existence back then. name what you may and no one cares. I know I dont care. In my days in school, the white people used t have in the bathroom/toilet door writings criticizing blackness, by their saying; If black is so beautiful, I just made a master piece! You as a black woman should not take offense in that. Its just a saying and expression from those who are not blacks!


Same goes about your what you failed to see, except that yours is very untrue, while the white boy's waste might have been as black as midnight, only he knew it.

u are talking crazy now. if john son of zachariah did not have sex, and his cousin jesus son mary didnt have sex, and many catholic priests and nuns do not have sex, they all of them ate/eat, drank/drink, fatigued/fatigue, slumbered/slumber, tired/tire, slept/sleep, suffered, suffer, born/born, etc, why would their Lord Creator God Who truly has Power over everything will be like the other humans, me, you, her and he, who cant keep away from what the bees and the birds do?

Be real woman. I know that the Florida sun is a mother when it beat people down like a pulp! Go sit at a pool if you are still far away from the beach!

@Sleek29: The first reason we fast is on the pages of the Quran itself. Allah commands fasting on Muslim in Surah Baqarah. And the other reasons are in there, too. And one is to be a Muhsin (a doer of good for the pleasure of Allah only). Read the verses below, and you can even have sex at night, too.


2:183 Muhsin Khan: O you who believe! Observing As-Saum (the fasting) is prescribed for you as it was prescribed for those before you, that you may become Al-Muttaqun (the pious - see V.2:2).

2:184 Muhsin Khan: [Observing Saum (fasts)] for a fixed number of days, but if any of you is ill or on a journey, the same number (should be made up) from other days. And as for those who can fast with difficulty, (e.g. an old man, etc.), they have (a choice either to fast or) to feed a Miskin (poor person) (for every day). But whoever does good of his own accord, it is better for him. And that you fast, it is better for you if only you know.

2:185 Muhsin Khan: The month of Ramadan in which was revealed the Quran, a guidance for mankind and clear proofs for the guidance and the criterion (between right and wrong). So whoever of you sights (the crescent on the first night of) the month (of Ramadan i.e. is present at his home), he must observe Saum (fasts) that month, and whoever is ill or on a journey, the same number [of days which one did not observe Saum (fasts) must be made up] from other days. Allah intends for you ease, and He does not want to make things difficult for you. (He wants that you) must complete the same number (of days), and that you must magnify Allah [i.e. to say Takbir (Allahu-Akbar; Allah is the Most Great) on seeing the crescent of the months of Ramadan and Shawwal] for having guided you so that you may be grateful to Him.

2:186 Muhsin Khan: And when My slaves ask you (O Muhammad SAW) concerning Me, then (answer them), I am indeed near (to them by My Knowledge). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me (without any mediator or intercessor). So let them obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be led aright.

2:187 Muhsin Khan: It is made lawful for you to have sexual relations with your wives on the night of As-Saum (the fasts). They are Libas [i.e. body cover, or screen, or Sakan, (i.e. you enjoy the pleasure of living with her - as in Verse 7:189) Tafsir At-Tabari], for you and you are the same for them. Allah knows that you used to deceive yourselves, so He turned to you (accepted your repentance) and forgave you. So now have sexual relations with them and seek that which Allah has ordained for you (offspring), and eat and drink until the white thread (light) of dawn appears to you distinct from the black thread (darkness of night), then complete your Saum (fast) till the nightfall. And do not have sexual relations with them (your wives) while you are in I'tikaf (i.e. confining oneself in a mosque for prayers and invocations leaving the worldly activities) in the mosques. These are the limits (set) by Allah, so approach them not. Thus does Allah make clear His Ayat (proofs, evidences, lessons, signs, revelations, verses, laws, legal and illegal things, Allah's set limits, orders, etc.) to mankind that they may become Al-Muttaqun (the pious - see V.2:2).

2:188 Muhsin Khan: And eat up not one another's property unjustly (in any illegal way e.g. stealing, robbing, deceiving, etc.), nor give bribery to the rulers (judges before presenting your cases) that you may knowingly eat up a part of the property of others sinfully.

2:189 Muhsin Khan: They ask you (O Muhammad SAW) about the new moons. Say: These are signs to mark fixed periods of time for mankind and for the pilgrimage. It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, etc.) that you enter the houses from the back but Al-Birr (is the quality of the one) who fears Allah. So enter houses through their proper doors, and fear Allah that you may be successful.

@Nezan:Hear this keferi, kiriyo man. Nezan, am talking to you with your worships of 3 gods in 1, and you have the strength to say that you fast. You know the Onifaas and the Onisongos, etc of yoruba traditional religions (animists) do fast, too. Who do they direct their fast to? Their gods, in their individual rites.

Now to you, we cant deny that you fast as christians. Thats obvious, at least the catholics do lent. Your dry fast is of your own desire, like all the others whims that you do out of group or personal desires. Who do you direct your your fast to: Is it father sitting on the throne, or is it Jesus the son who will sit or is siiting on the right side (and who is on the left? Lol) or the always docile Holy Spirit, until we see that he as an equal or less of a God in the three Gods, of the Trinity drove Jesus "into the wilderness" into the arms of Satan to "Tempt Jesus, at least 3 Times"? I dont wanna talk about how absurd the whole world at a glance in the temptation revealing the silly heroic image of impossibility that I will discuss it at another time, along with satan tempting "god" to give him what he already own.


Can anyone tempt you, nezan that he will let you be the husband of your lovely wife, when you are already her husband, with two beautiful daughter's from her and God willing if you are up to the task, still more in your future? If anyone can do that to you, then let me know, and I will tempt you from where I am, about her in your Abuja with some easy for you thing to do. And if you dont do it, then you have no "right" to her anymore! This does not make any sense, or does it, to you?

Or did Jesus himself got the tradition of fasting 40 days and 40 nights from the fast of Moses when he  received the Ten Commandments at Mt. Sinai? Notice that these were 40 days and 40 nights, and not less! Contrast that with the 3 days and 3 nights of Jesus promising to spend in the belly of the earth, in this case the group chose a mere cave (Please is that the belly of the earth? Grave is a belly, Michael is been encased into one), the sign of his prophethood, as the peoplr with "ye people of little faith", demanded. The three days and three nights "sign" is supposed to be similar to an earlier "prophetic sign", that of Jonah in the "belly" of the Whale.


While Jonah was swallowed alive by a Whale, Jonah remained alive in the belly and coughed out, after 3 days and 3 nights of Jewish day beginning and ending  were completed, different from what happened to Jesus, from Friday's just moments before sundown, and before day break of Sunday! Some tradition report that Jonah was swallowed by the first whale or a another fish, which in turn was swallowed by a larger whale,. But whether its one whale or the one was also swallowed by a bigger whale, Jonah's case was a complete miracle, well known to the total Jewish nations, as they are in nations of 12 tribes based on the male children of Jacob/Israel.

If Jesus of the Bible, the god of the christians made this "promise of giving a sign loke the sign of Jonah" and we read that it is at least a night short and or a day short, his prophetic promise is not fulfilled to this day, and if he died in the process, he failed woefully, while Jonah must be a better man, and I wonder why he is not the god of the christians, too?! Afterall, you christians love romantically heroic story, what happened to Jonah is a better story than what happened to Jesus. The Whale of Jonah moved about, even to the depth of the sea, either isolated of in pod with other Whales, but all the while Jonah was alive. When he was coughed out alive, Jonahonly had skinsore and nothing more!


Jesus on the other hand spent less than his own promised period of three days and three nights, in the belly of the earth, similar to Jonah's Whale's! Neither in the time spent or in any belly! Cave is not a belly, and if it was, the women with the oils to anoit a dead man or rob on the body of a"dead man, a corpse", is a no tradition of any of the 12 nations of Israel, were also in the belly of the earth! In every which way, the promise was not fulfilled.

Now going back to your fasting thingy, proof Islam wrong by becoming a muslim for the rest of the 19 or 18 days. You can start by taking the shahada, then make all the Salah, night and day and before dawn but after midnight. Then eat 10 portions of what you used to eat or as much as you can consume, for your beginning of the fast meal. In abuja that shoud be about 4.30 am, I think. Then you break your fast, say when the sun sets at about 7.30 pm, with your 10 times or regular meal, keeping all your normal daily activities. By the time the fast period of the remaining days, I guarantee that you will know that Khaki no be leda!

david, your ignorance sometimes border absurdity. you write as if anyone give a ragtag about christianity. hello, david, i see christianity as an upgraded hinduism/buhddism, and all the isms. afterall you all have more than one God and there is always an object of worship, the christian's is the man hanging on the cross. abeg let me hear words.

but then explain what is meant that Jesus was driven into the wilderness to preach while he abadoned the habitations of man, preaching to man in the wildernss? what about see the whole world all in a single glance on the top of the mountain, except that the world is not like a small carpet and there is no mountain high enough to see every part of a sphere in just one shot, except if one is allucinating, flying high as in under the influence!

thiese you will find in the pages of the bible. you are scientist, please think about it and have you taken me up on the skip a meal offer? you have to become muslim first, before it counts, and follow my recommendation.

Is wilderness where good spirit will lead a preacher, sorry God to, to preach to human beings? Whats in the wilderness, except wild beasts, and blades of grass, vegetations?

Preaching to humans, you got to come to towns, civilization places, not wilderness! My people, you can continue to lead yourselves astray believing in some fairytales, when I read anything, I make it come alive in my mind!

God Shall not be led into wilderness preaching to people there, where there is no people, shouting and claims that thats to mankind! Was the intention was such that the wind carries it to the cities or the wild animals take it there? Wouldit not have been prudent, efficient that the preacher just come to the habitations and preach to the people at the town squares, the markets?

Osisi, you are in the hot sit on this matter by your audacity to say gbam! I will excuse Nezan because he has not answer and just playing possum!

Osisi, you studied some physics before concentration on human body. How is it possible that people saw the "heaven" opened up and saw that far a dove flying down and yet heard a "voice" proclaiming sonship of the your god, right there at river Jordan? Is river Jordan in Jerusalem, Galille or in Jordan, a country next to Palestine?

Osisi, you believe that people, ordinary people can see that far away? Heaven? That a head scratcher story right there! Gbam!

Skyone, take the same challenge that I put to Davidylan. Proof Islam wrong by becoming one, this ramadhan. Observe it with the prayers, and the before dawn eating. Eat ten plates of what you normally eat. Then break your fast just after the sun sets. If you are complete in Islam, the remaining 19 or 20 days will give you the experience of a lifetime. After it, then come out and report to us if you have just simply rearranged you meals, by early breakfast, skipping lunch and a hearty dinner! I think you are man enough.

I was correct and finally I know that Jesus was "driven" into the wilderness by Satan/Devil/Evil one. Considering that he was shown, in a single "showing" the whole world, as if it was a flatland and he was at the top of the highest mountain to see everything at a go. Guys, and you with the emphasising word "gbam" expression, tell me if this is possible except a complete possession that he was flying high? Call it it "temptation" if you will. Clean it up, dress it up and color it as you wish. A filth will stink in the long run, as soon as you remove the casing!

Driven into the wilderness wildly is no more temptation people. Thats real stuff. If it was John that experience this, and it is clear that it is not, to baptise your lord later speaks volume? Can anyone allow such a person baptise god? Does God need baptism/jewish barmitva? Guys, you are batting 0 each time you came up to the plate!

And about Muhammad (as), if he was not at the level of Eljah and co before Isra wa Miraj, that even made him equal to them and became their leader (AS), as he lead them in prayers at Masjidi Aqsa, in Ilya.

i wonder what ill the chechens, say about russians? what will the iraqis and the afghanis say about christians?

@Nezan: You do not seem to understand that a divorced man who is single at the time of questioning can not say that he is nmarried! A widower can not say that he is still married because he could be asked, show me your wife, will he therefore points to the grave? Is there when a man keeps his wife, except talking, walking, functioning as human being and doing the wifey things? Get real man, grow some spine, called honesty!