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@Nezan: « #100 on: Today at 12:37:10 PM »

and that dude that died of meat poisoning from one of his numerous bedmates, was he your own?

Unless you are married to an Igbo woman, (and am still trying to learn this language), you have no right to speak it. But then you lie big time like a glued down rug when you say it was a wife of the prophet that brought the meat! Your wife will poison you, even if she hates you gut? Read the ahadith, again! Stop lying so much, the lover of esiewu dish!

« #101 on: Today at 12:40:02 PM »
and it was also reported that an agent of the devil that was given satanic verses did not know that the esiewu he was served was poisoned? no?

Show me where it is written "agent of the devil". You just talk, and I think its better if you stick with the mo money stuff than blatant lies.

« #102 on: Today at 12:42:37 PM »
. . . . . and Jesus ascended to heaven . . . . .where is mohammed's corpse? the poisoned body rottening in an arabian grave?

I answered already with good resourcefulness for your benefit! Dont just shout, reason, too. Debate the issue.

« #103 on: Today at 12:47:05 PM »
Was mohammed original?

Yes, the only one in his time, not starting out on his own like a fake prophet. The fact he fund out his prophetic elevated position from the Christian Waraqah, is enough to proof his ORIGINALITY!

didnt he plagiarise Mosaic laws for dealing with an adulteress?

Now plagiarise since you realise that the singular event with Jesus was just that; Singular and did not "abrogate or abolish" the law! But if he plagiarised it, would be have asked whats the "law" in your Book" when they came to him in Madina, to act as their judge? Wy would the Jews come to him, if they knew he plagiarise and or a fake prophet, if you know anything about Jews from your Bible, considering that they accepted the decision of Muhammad, stoning the adultery accused man and woman to death?

am sorry for muslims . . . . . everything is copied from christianity, judaism or arabian fairy tales.

I already presented proofs above, that Quran and ahadith have nothing from Bible of jews and or Christians. Read my above entries. Now as to the arabian fairy tales, tell me whats fairy tale in Quran, when what is visible is right there in front of you, since I told you "CRANE" would not be a possibility? The language of Quran was superior to what was spoken by arabs that they wer dumbfounded in the first place, a language by this illiterate now is what they have to learn and the standard of Arabic language from that time till end of time! Now thats fairy tale, when the Biblical semitic languages ae all dead or almost dead, spoken barely in few remote villages?

Ogbeni, you have no argument(s) at all.

You didnt answer by question, instead you change course. But then Muhammad (AS) also went to heaven and back, in part of a single night! Thats a bigger feat than just going to heaven, you have the story in Surah Isra, and Surah Najm!

Allah says that the Shuhadah are not dead, and prophets are higher than ordinary shuhadah, and the higher is Messengers (AS) overProphets (AS). Muhammad (AS) is all of them, a shuhadah, a prophet and a messenger (AS). If Abbass bin Abi Mutalib's body was as fresh as when he just died, then Muhammad's body was in the grave, a station that Jesus will have to have on earth, in his return. Muhammad's body in that station is not rotten or decaying. No sir and my proofs are many;

1). Ahadith is stated that when anyone gives salaam to Muhammad, anywhere in the world, the angel brings it to him to hear it, returning his (Soul) to his (Body).

2). As a shuhadah, the Quran says they are not dead, their souls are alive in the bodies of special birds of paradise, eating and flying from place to place in the paradise. And since this is too much for you to understand, it is exactly the same way with when you thought that Jesus died on the cross, lifeless, no, not so since his Creator covers and protects his soul from the evil intension of accursing it if he died on the tree, hanged!

3). As a prophet, like Ibrahim, Isaac, jacob, Joseph, etc, it is not permissable that the soil eats into their body. They are all alive in teir graves, since God said Ibrahim is His personal friend, and jacob by your account in the Bible fought God and overcame over god and mankind (lol), will his body be eaten up, if he accomplished all of that, from your Bible, and was Joseph not in the grave, carried out of Egypt in the final event of mass exit (you call it exodus), whenre the body served as a "light" leading them? Am sure will claim its Jesus!

4) Messengers with books of revelation wil at least have to be as beloved as ordinary shuadah and the true position is that they are higher than prophets, and their body will have to be just as preserved. No?

Allah is not the moon god, but God of moon, sun, stars, nigerians, ghanians, americans, animals, eibelievers like you, and believers like me!


And if Muhammad (AS) did not do it, permitted anyone to do it and its against Islam, I will not do it. So when I arrange my bedding, it orientates my face toward Kaaba, if I were to lay down on my right side. If I were to build masajid, it will not have star and crescent, mineret, but willdefinitely have a station for the muhadhzin to make the call for prayer, because Bilah ibn Rabah (RA) used to have a station.

nezan should about my saying something about Zakat; Fitr and mal.

And then the sadaqah.

It was reported that three people died on the cross on that fateful day. Which one is yours, he was insinuating, and what was he to you? At least it is identified that 2 thieves and a prophet by Biblical account met their death, by hanging. by the way what happened to the bodies of the two thieves, which there is little to let is know if their blood didnt flow, a sign of death, or is it not, since Jesus blood never stop from free flow? We also notice Oil was brought as balm to rob on his wounds or whole body while the prepare him for burial? No?

The same must happen to the thieves, too. No? Punishment for thieft is death by mosaic, no one complained. But everyone is up in arm on muhammad's process in punishment. If Jesus cancelled all these fitting punishments, then we should ask my the Jews were killing the thieves, and later asked Muhammad (AS), some 600 plus years in Madina to pronounce judgement on adultery offenders? They must not have listened to Jesus or Jesus did not "abolish the laws and the prophets, " but you Nezan and co., did!

Now defend yourself!

@Reindeer: I eat well and I dont use sugar that much. Not to much salt eaither. In and out of ramadan, this is my routine. No Turkey; I dislike it because of its size. No Duck or too much beef either. I am more of a Fowl, Hen and fish dude. So, the low sugar thing does not matter here. Lol, thanks for asking, unlike mean Gene Auckland "Dr. Osisi", you at least hasnt became a subscriber to Old Dr. Ekpo Eyo's "The days of humanitarian Doctors are gone".

So what are you doing to save your sole, putting your trust only with your Creator, One Creator and not 3!?

I have an opinion that david forgot that close to a quarter of million people of islamic faith must have died in the hands of none Muslims since September 11, 2001! Aghanistan saw the greatest humiliations of Muslims in Orange jumpsuits kneeling down not for Allah but before Kufar in Gitmo!

Then we have Iraqi been invaded for falsified reasons of combinations of Niger source yellow cakes and Al Qaidah combo.

Sorry you were not alive when Nigeria the country where you were born, and every drop of your blood is from lost a million people, at least in a 30 months war, and you are not even making as much as a whimper about it! Your focus is very tangental for a future leader of Nigeria. And you want to marry a Nigerian woman? Haa! An Ijebu Ode keferi cant boast that there is no muslim in his bloodline, or can you? What do you do with your great grand parents who were muslims?


America should have invaded Egypt and Arab ic Saudia, where all the 19 hijackers came from! I wonder why not?

@JaguaNana and davidylan: Dont get hung up with symbols, which I call logo. Jews have the star of King David, a very late personality if you start from the sons of Jacob, the Children of Israel. Christians have cross, and islam did not have any symbol or logo until Khalifah office was in the hand of the Turks in Turkey!

If symbol or logo was important, it would have been found on masajid haram in Makka, Nawawi in Madina and Aqsa in Ilya (Jerusalem)! Islam does not copy Judaism for anything. Islam does not copy Christianity for anything, either. Islam does not copy anything from anyone. Masajid are supposed to be simple and undistracting, simple structure, except that you now have people who go overboard and simplicity is now relative!

I wonder why david is havinga a tiffy about this, since I have prayed in a former nightclub, bar, etc now masajid, including a Synagogue in Brooklyn that is now a masjid.

and there are some jewish sects, that bow and prostrate and have their arms across the chest you will almost believe he is making qunnut prayer. Is Islam against that too, or what about the chrsitians who bow and prostrate?

I prayed in Churches and other civic and community centers before. Christian guests of the prophet (AS)  prayed in the msque in Madina. I can also get materials for you that says early christians even made pligrimage to the kaaba, even with all the idols, before the islam of Muhammad (A)!

How do you slice this one? And finally, not all mpsques carry a Othoman Turks' "Star and Crescent" logo! The most Importants Masajid: Haram in Makka, etc, Al Nawawi in Madina, etc and Al Aqsa in Ilya (Jerusalem) etc, and others around the world, prior to the ascendancy of the Turki Khalifa of Turkey do not carry this logo.

Wa Aleykum sallam wa R wa B. She may be partially right, but she could make a better decision if she goes to each of the creditors to explain the situation and circumstances about how the opportunity to Hajj.

Its not impossible for the creditors to agree with her and she will have a chance to make supplication and petition in duas to Allah Who am confident will make way that she will be able to pay the (debt)s upon returning,

@Davidylan: « #69 on: Today at 11:16:46 PM »  

Of course it doesnt and THAT IS THE HUGE DIFFERENCE. Christianity is not about obligatory rituals like allah imposes on your hypocrites but the bible ENCOURAGES fasting as a means for more spiritual renewal.

The only obligation, which borders on "Ritual" is the coving of body in blood, as if "dipped" in it, after you believe that the human god was tortured then hunged and did a quick and acceleratedly compressed 3 days and 3 nights, between friday just before sunset and just before or after dawn on sunday, walking out without being assisted out of the belly of the earth (topical cave), with body ache and a hunger that needed immediate quenching. These are the facts. Oh, you have to accept this, belief blindly so thats what your salvation is based upon.

And david and no Christian does any research on Islam. There is something called orientalism; non Muslims researching to the point that they become scholars, except they have no "belief/faith" in it!

@WildOne: How is sex immoral, un-godly?

@No2Athiesm: I am a slave of Allah Azzhawajah, jawahalah. I am a son of the old man who died (ra) in 1966, and an 80something woman, Alhamdulillah who became Muslima just mere few years ago, after I have grown to see her cook pork, do the good friday Frijole thing, year in, year out!

But you, whats with the zoom zoom, when your papa and mama are in Nigeria and you have another set of fathers; god the father, god the son and god the ghost? No or I have misspoken? Please educate this muslim about your christian fathers, since so many of them!

If I ave a son who claims that he has a father other than me, his mother better tell me that he was just kidding, because she will have to explain what the mail man, the milk man and other delivery people do when I turn my back!

If my wife opens her mouth to utter that my son belongs to another papa, she will be looking at divorce, and the boy is looking at blood test, without a single doubt. That will teach people to know who their daddy is!

@Jagoon: I think you answered my question that 1 John 4:1 is simply "good spirit" is a prophet of God., as the litmus is applied.

"Bad spirit' is a "false prophet", therefore is no really a prophet of God, but in essence, a liar.

Please reconfirm the above. I want a clear answer, because I need to hold you at the wrist, not at the elbow! Then I can even respond to your above, if I want to, or just ignore it altogether and chalk it to your multiple heads god, playing with your mind, while you do not know which head is directing you when you wrote the above. I am sure its hard on you that you are listening and taking in orders from three gods all at a go! Ndo.

my imam, may Allah rewards you greatly. Salaama, Lagosboy.

see where treacherious behavior lands you! I dont care about my cousins boko haram (inna lillahi wa innna ileyhi rajiun). Those who died among them, may Allah overlook their faults (Amin).

we are talking about world religion, but you have to localise it. Typical nigerian's all religion is local, instead of all politics!

the prophet (AS) fasted ramadhan like a do loop, day turning into night, and night turning into day, etc, without food, and this is not permissable for any muslim! He made night prayers (Quyamullail/tahajjud) everyday and no muslim can do that, while a muslim can marry people of the books, while they remain in their religions, it is not permissable for Muhammad (AS).

He slept on the mat and suffered like no other man, none. Not even Moses who suffered way more than Jesus! Read the Bible. While you are complaininga nd lionising a 24 hours suffering at best, Moses started suffering from the time he ranaway from Egypt and then its at the peak and getting higher from the very time he left for Egypt after the event of the BURNING BUSH that does not consume vegetations! And his sffering did not end until his death! Figure that out, man!

@gen2genius: You are common slave too, except that you deny it! But then, Jesus called you his slave or the slave of the one in heaven, in the Bible! Doubt me and put your faith where your keyboard is, buddy! I threw the guntlet on Nezan, you may take it, too.

@nezan: You are hot on the collar. Calm down, man.

the girl who is a beach bum, living it up and the guy whose religion says eat all the pork, drink all the booze, and party if its another 1999, courtesy of Prince, etc are the legistators of morality!


The rule of Paradise is different from anything on earth, duuh! I dont have time for you now.

@Nezan: I love being a slave. My slave status is completely better than you sonship status.

Since you deny being a slave, if I quote from your Bible that jesus called you a slave, what will you do? Become muslim, and or give to a charity that I will nominate a good size of the Mo Money, mo moey you rave about? Please am not trying to make anybody, the lady bosses upset, but its your finger that is making me to call you out!

u do according to your ability, even zakatul fitr which is compulsory, a person who is poor to pay, and those who are not as poor, or even a wealthy man who is unable to get his money and therefore is suffering are all entitled to receive what is collected of this compulsory arms giving!

Sadaqah and Zakatul Al mal, voluntary charity and charity of wealth are essential and compulsory, not forced upon the giver. It is one other ways to obey God, purify your heart of greed, etc.

@Nezan: « #1 on: August 31, 2009, 10:09 AM »

When you see a relative of yours killed by a muslim suicide bomber who believes he is going to paradise by murdering people, you do nothing but hate anything islamic.

And when a muslim sees his/daughter, or son being raped, stripped naked to perform indecent sexual acts, killed and burnt, and said that the soldiers of Jesus are doing it, while ordinances that ridicle Islam kill many, I think, its not impossible for those people to hate Christianity and its cross, etc! Two, can play this game. Its Christians and Jews and Hindus and Sikhs, etc all together against islam, and you will not win. Impossible, by Allah.

@Oladegbu: Show us the "Untranslated" WORD of God, if you have it. Forget all the languages (translations), show us the ORIGINAL, pure and perfect, since the translations in all the languages are neither pure nor perfect! I hope that you can produce it, otherwise satan has confisticated it from your mist!

Wa aleykum salaam wa Rahmatullahi taala wa barackatuhu: Islam is not a religion that people should accomodate into their lives, or livings, wages. Rather it is livings, lives and wages, etc, that should be accomodated into Islam. Allah has presented His Directive, Islam for us to follow, in every which way. All the rulings and laws and commandments are to be followed, as one comes to "know or learn" about it.

If Islam is practised in any which way, as if it is secondary, instead of primary to live and living and wages, then the verses of Quran as to Allah saying which is to mean "And I do not create Jinns and Man, except to worship Me (The Sole Sustainer)", because the next verse talks about Allah providing for everyone, (From the group of Haa Miim Surah; Ghafir (Believer), I think).

A country that is Islamic should protest, long time that any of their national assignment, that will become impossible for people to observe any of the tenets of Islam, should be postponed till after it, Ramadhan in this case, hajj in another, Salaah, yet another! Shall Africa, a continent that has a good muslim population not consider the essense of the muslim participant in continental uniting events?

My proof that job should not be a reason to fast, is that Gazwatul Badr, all its har'b(war), not Jihad (Struggle(s) of al types) was/were in the month of observance of Ramadhan, and the muslim soldiers, all 330 (Same exact numbers as the war that Daud Killed jalut in, the same number that Umar bin Khattab mentioned the moment he became a muslim in Makka) of them! Is soccer, sorry football more important than Ramadhan to the conscience of the individual and indeed the nation? This is why I think muslism need to reassess their commitment and practise of Islam.

Islam is complete and no nation or nations can come to change it. Let us defer to Allah and His messenger (AS), in all our affairs.

Nezan if you believe bollsharp or yusuf ali, then the 3rd generation, and the 2nd generation, and 1st generation and definitely the Messenger, each and all together are better. Definitely the Angel is better, and definitely Allah is Best. In the Quran we see abrogated verses are kept, so that what was abrogated is kept for usage, as applicable.

What is funny is that the "satanic verses" remains missing, because it was never was, as we see that drinking was abrogated in sequence, leaving each stage in the Quran. How about abrogation of adoption which lead to a divorce of Zainab from Zaid, and Muhammad (AS) marrying not a virgin anymore woman, whom he could have easily married while a virgin, but paid her dower for his "adopted son," a slave of his whom he honored by adopting him, in the time before prophethood, emancipated him from slavery, not lke what you have in the up from slavery.

Surah Azhab declares that Allah is not shy or ashame to tell, while Muhammd (AS) may be mild in manner to say anything. If there is anything satanic, as a verse in Quran the Most Powerful would have mentioned it, if He did not destroy satan right away because of His own commitment to give Shaitan time till the end of the children of Adam, at least Shaitan would have been humilated, right there, to serve as another proof of the office of prophethood of Muhammad! In at least one place in the Quran, "Surah Shuara", I think, in this surah Allah says when you are to begin Quran seek "safety of Allah against the accursed Shaitan!" The embodiment of Quran is Muhammad (AS), how could it have been possible to start recitation without saying "audhu billahi minal shaitaani rajim?" Every muslim who recites Quran knows that if they begin without this, they do not feel comfortable. At least I dont!


Nezan, and company, whether ignorant muslims, big fake or real sheikh, or the biggest scholars from he non Muslims, it does not matter, continue to lead yourself to jahannam! Each minutes gets you, individually or as a group close to the appointed time. I seek Allah Mercy and protection against this destiny of doom.

And a miracle of healing in my personal life is the usage of abati baracka (the blessed black seeds) that I chew to cure food poison that I often do have.

Olaadegbu have you heard of the intended "edit" of NIV by Darby Publication in the United States? They are doing the reupgradeing of the perfect "word" once again! Perfectly and it will not be the last time eeither. The case is like the case of the arab leadership; agree to disagree.

May Kelly is quoting Isiah, which she haply throws away with all the other OT and just condensed them to "love your God with all heart and love your neighbor like yourself". Is there any OT that you will take if it has a different opinion to what Paul who was not even a disciple say, in NT?

Finally, havent you forgotten the fact the OT says God is One and no special child when you say He is three and has a begotten son in NT?

what about those pastors and congregants who prostrate their faces in worship?

Abuzola am sure is happy that he is called a keferi because he refuses to worship human, three gods, eat pork, etc and reject Muhammad (AS), and deny other prophets of old, etc. Heck, am keferi like Abuzola, too.

But muslims say that the Christians are keferi because they take 3 gods, one of them a man from a mother, sing and dance and clap hands and call it worship, etc.

Keferi, from Kufr, kafir, kafara: Purely an arabic word present in the Quran to describe the disbelievers and their disbeliefs!

When I told a friend that he is actually a keferi to me and Islam, and I to him in by his christian religion was shocked. The expression on his face was priceless. Its almost like when a person who thinks he is a heir was finally told that he his a slave. Christians, expect that from the Creator in the Day of Judgement, your son/heir position is only a bubble, ripe to be busted to nothingness, a group of disobedient slaves.

And if you want us to go to Islam right away, we can. I will delay my Christian pricing/examination till later. My position right now is that I come to you with clean mind of no malice towards "Christianity", and am just asking questions, just as basic as possible. And people lets Noetic and me deal without too many interjections, leading to free for all. Thanks.

I want to learn Christianity from him, and in the process ask questions on issues about the "how it comes about" to what it is now, finding out who is the founder, and if the founder will recognise it, today, and what denomination or specific place of and type of worship and worshipper, respectively that will he/she say you are exactly like I left this religion!