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@Davidylan: It turns a roaring lion to a gentle feline, a cat meow, not purring though! Thats for the others. Why dont you become muslims for the rest of the ramadhan?

I think you are afraid that you may like it! Its gonna come, because am certain that down the line in your Ijebu Ode blood, some of your grand parents, etc was a muslim. Ask daddy, he will tell you, until the white people forced them to become Keferi, the same line you are tolling today.

@Sleek29: I hope you are smart enough to know that one says he is just a human being. So it will not be a big deal that after he has been "Possessed", if it is true by just having your foe a moment in oredr to drive home my point, which you seem to not get, he is cured by his Lord; Allah The Almighty.

Now campare the scenerio to the God of the Christians being merely tempted by the devil. Now who created the devil and the angels? is it not this same Christian God, or you do not believe that the Christian God is the sole Creator? Can the devil tempt Angel gabreil? How about Angel Michael? If these Angels can not be tempted by the devil, how can their Creator be tempted by the devil who could not have temped them? Are we talking about the real God here, or the make belief God, without any aota of the fact he is God?

You see why you are a not worshipping a real God, from my point of view? Your God to have been tempted and the devil did not get annihilated by it shows that your God is no GOD, at all.

@No2Atheizm: I read you loud and charlie. But tell me how do you argue three Gods making One God, while each God is fully God and the One that you tuck them into is also fully God, no More than the three individual fully Gods?

Try the experiment in any which way you want, with fruits, vegetables, ore water, or eggs, or Irish Shamrock lead, etc. Put three which are Complete and make that is complete out of them all. Or make from the Complete One three Complete individual entity!

I read people using egg; but they forgot that the egg, let just use one egg, can be double yoked, shell is cracked or the abdumen stinks, or the whole egg is dried up or rotten. Is this what your Gods/God is or are?

How about H2O, with steam, liquid and solid: what happens when each is collected and separately weighed. Can they each have the same volume, shape, weight etc as the Original, before you applied heat to get some steam, some liquid and still some solid? Is this what your Gods/God have /has become/becomes? Lesser Gods when separate?


How about the Shamrock lef: It has 3 false leaves/blades; What happens if one of them is torned, or plucked away, or eaten up or just partly eaten by worms? Is this still a full complete shamrock leaf? Most of you Christians are completely educated illiterates who are not reasoning before they put forward a thing that can be destroyed by simple argument from anyone who can just make simple observation. I guess common sense is expensive for some and its not there for others at all, yet others use it to make good argument!

@Nezan: « #186 on: Today at 11:47:07 AM »  

were the miracles recorded in the koran or hadeeths? BTW, you disagree with most hadeeths tht do not favour your arguments. How am I to believe in your hadeeths?

I have argued simple that ahadith must have its source from Muhammad (AS) to be regarded as such by definition. A statement by Aisha (RA) stopping with her and not go up to have came from the Prophet cant be regarded as ahadith. Or your Christian argument is saying so? Further a statement can not be attributed to Muhammad, while it disagrees with Quran and not acording to the personal quality of the Prophet (AS), and the narrator must be able to be linked to him, as a sahaba in a way that it will not be a doubtful possibility and of course the chain of narration must be sound, and possibly more than one sahaba (RA) heard it.

If all of these are not in doubt, you will not read from me any argument. Let me use you as my illustration of my point. Though I have never met you, but I have read where you stated that you are a father of two young girls and a husband of a wife. May God kep your family and make it a good and successfu marriage and help the children to be productive members of the society. Amin. If someone privately writes me to tell me that Nezan lives in Accra, Ghana and he is a lady or dresses like one, I will have to disagree with the "amebo" based on what I have learnt of your person, that you a true blue Nigerian 100% prime cut male, with two children and a legal wife and Accra is some way from Abuja! All of these will be my reasons to argue that it is no possible that you are a tinkle bell or cross dresser or some weird person!


You see why I disagree with things that are conforming to all aspects of the truth?

@A glass: You too on the dua,  and all the Ummah. Amin.

When the muslim says Quran is the greatest miracle, it means just that; It remains pure agreed up in language, recitations, etc, even though we have sects, while other "revealed" Books have suffered under the knives of slash and burn out the truth and then mix in some lies, to satisfy their desires!

Abu Bakr (RA) demonstrated this part very clearly and just simply by saying, if Muhammad said it, that he went to heavens and back in part of a night, it is completely so, when the "disbelievers, mockers" in Makka came to him in his home just down the street from the home of the prophet, to do their mockery about Isra wa Miraj! Abu Bakr told them that if Malaika was coming to him from heavens, to deliver revelations, then the Isra wa Miraj is a lesser Miracle than the revelations, that were the "words, sentences, surahs, parts and indeed, the Quran completed!"

Duration of revelation of Quran is longer than any of the previous revelations. While Ibrahim's revelation was stated as Suhuf (pamphlet) in the Quran, and Musa received Suhuf along with his "Torah", and Daud has the Saber, and Isa bin Mariam the Injil, none of these revelation was longer than 13 years, from beginning to end, while Muhammad's Quran was 23 years, ending just before he died!


The disbelievers need education in the process and what is called revelation. Revelation is what is given that should be used for your spiritual closeness/piety with God, as it is a guide and process of your worshipping Him. We cant therefore used Burning bush, all the miracles he performed in front of Pharaoh, and all the process of destroying Egyptian army and just before they are given order of worship as part of revelation! Afterall, the jews in their Jewish religion do not use any of these except as stories to show how God used to love them. used to I said, because Jesus must have wrestled that love for the Christians, to the detriments of the Jews who still believe that they are the chosen people? Well I will let the Jews and the Christians fight among themselves who is still the chosen one!

The Gospel of Jesus in its entirety is only 3 years if we take it as "revelations from A to Z! 3 years is obviously less than 23 years!


Sabur of Daud, has been relegated, by the Christians as some songs, along with what they call song of Solomon! This is obviously not by the mouth and actions of the Christians, in the level with Quran of Muslims, a complete revelation from God! What is in it is what wants to be in it, since Muhammad and Jibril (AS) will recite to each other one time each of what was Quran every Ramadhan, until the ramadhan of the last year of the life of Muhammad (AS), where they recited to each other, 2 times each. If there was a single mistake, it would have been corrected in the previous year's recitations, but definitely the last year, especially when they did it 2 times each!


Muhammad (AS) explained to the Sahabah(RA) who explained to the next generation, who explained to the next and the next to the next, etc, that instead of "Torah" Allah gave him a part of Quran (A Part for our illustration), instead of Saber, Allah gave him another part of Quran (part B), and instead of Injil, he Muhammad (AS) given, yet another part (Part C), and additionally, Allah gave him another part (part D), all in the Quran, preserved and guarded by Allah Himself!

Is anyone in doubt that this a Unique Book, worth its name and Title "The Single Greatest Miracle"? You can touch it, feel it and the recitation affects your heart and make you better, giving you peace of mind, and a healing "Shifah" of the soul, the heart and body? You hear the recitation, you weep like a little child, it gives you hope and strength, perseverance at other times.

This is a book, so complex yet little children can learn it. I wanna see a child learn, no a fully grown learn the Bible and be able to recite from A to Z, without opening the pages.  The Question that will pass through your mind as I make this challenge is "Which Bible" will the world Body of Christians use for the Challenge?


I am not the one who says the Bible is corrupted/impure, but it is Allah Who says it. And right here on nairaland we have a thread to proof it as a correct statement, in the pages of the Quran.


Thank you JeSoul, for bringing up a thread that supports the Quran. The Christians under your leadership, by Allah are arguing about the versions, editions, etc of the Bible as okay or not okay! I have already copied enough pages of the thread to use for my argument to Support the Quranic statement that the Bible is impure and have been doctored, and argue against the claims of the Christians when they ask us to produce the "uncorrupted Bible!" If you, Christians cant even agree amongst yourselves which single Bible is "Uncorrupted," why ask me, a Muslim to produce for you a Christian a Book that you revere as the "Word of God", an Uncorrupted/Original of your Bible, since you are looking at all corrupted Bibles in front of you, there must have been an uncorrupted Torah, Saber, Injil, once upon a time. No?


That is not my job to produce your Book for you, in the Uncorrupted form, since you are looking at a table full of corrupted versions in front of you! You want somethng better and final, the Quran is eady to mount the heap that you have in front of you. At least you and me and the whole muslim body around the Qqorld will say that it is in PURE ARABIC, and no muslim will say it has an incorrect version and still will be accepted as a muslim by anyone!


@Nezan: Joo lo joko. See the silly questions you asked! Miracles from the hands of Muhammad, but the initial poster titled the Thread: The Greatest Miracle in Islam! Muhammad (AS) was human personification of the Quran. Quran became alive, Walking, Talking, spleeping etc through him. If you open a page you can feel the ayah (sentence) through him! You are wasting my time, man.

@sleek29: #147 on: Today at 08:12:53 AM »

@abuzola, yes allah allows his slaves to be possessed, that's why they marry 9 year olds, kill recklessly, have lots of women, and they even have a demon attache

Jacob who overcame Biblical "God" and mankind at the time his name was changed to Israel, was possessed, along with his mother as they schemed and took the birthright from Esau. No? Jesus was only a branche in his house; the houses, tribes of people, nations of people under the "House" of Israel. Can we talk about Biblical Abraham who marriedhis half sister, sarah, if you think you can judge when Aisha(AS) a gift Allah to His Messenger (AS) was matured? You must be a funny guy, not realising that Aisha was special and a wife of the Messenger, she became the mother of her own father!

Thats still a child in your eye? And if killing recklessly was the hallmark of Islam, there would not have been a single non-muslim in the greater Middle East and or anywhere Islam dominated; Spain, etc for my illustration and examples. This was the tradition of Israelites, as they marched from city states to ethnic states, killing them all, including the livestocks and cutting down the trees. Just imagine if islam did that, at the time the prophet was dying, could have been a single non-muslim in middle east? Think, man and thats before you become so emotional that you are no making any sense. And today the Jewish tribes, under a common goal with the conservative born again christians wants to "build" Solomon's Temple or is it David's his fathar? Neither men have a wife but wives!

Solomon had 300 concubines, and his legal wives were 700, from your Bible! You are complaining about a man who married legally before he slept with his wives! I will summise that you guys dont even read each other's post when you are bent on attacking Islam. You posted first, but Nezan was bent to score cheap point(s) that he did not modify his post, considering that what he wrote about was already in your post, just above his!


@Nezan (m): « #148 on: Today at 10:02:24 AM »

Tempted by the devil is not the same as possesed by a devil.
Jesus was tempted by the devil.
Mohammed was possesed by the devil.

The common thread is the devil, and possession and temptation, both are at the time under the influence. Its like a person who completely drunk, and the person who is drunk but telling you that he wants to drive home. Both are lethal weapons. At least the one possessed is honest enough to say that he is under the influence, unlike the pretender saying he is being tempted only. I am educating you about the similarity in esence, since you continue to say that Muhammad (AS) was possess. I will say he was not. Magic is like charms/voodoos, and thats different.Many prophets experienced the same thing. Afterall, Job was sick under the influence of Satan/devil, since thats what you love o call it, but only that Allah permitted it for as long as He, Allah willed it!

Further. between Jesus and John, his cousin who "baptised him, I say Barmitva, since there is no baptism in Judaism tribal traditions", was possessed as the devil drove him to the wilderness. I hope you know that one of these two people had that experienc? If it was John, it was after it that he "baptised" Jesus, according to your Bible. Now chew on that Bitter leaf of Truth. And you have to swallow it.

@No2Atheism: You can take up the challenge that I left on the table for Davidylan. Afterall, you are a big boy. No? Put your money where your mouth is, and am call the bluff of Christendom. I just finished my tarawih. Its after 2 am in the East Coast and I have to be up at 4, latest for preparation of today's fasting. And through it all, you have to kep your daily routine as nothing happened. This is how islam is; special demands and efforts in the month of Ramadan.

True religion is separated from fakes or no religion at all!

Any keferi can run the gamut of the month from now till the last day, amere 20 days at the most, and tell us after it whether its just skipping lunch!

And those who had belied Allah through Muhammad (AS), claiming that Muhammad was not a Messenger/Prophet as if there is a private agreement between them and The Creator that there wont be a Messenger after Jesus, son of Mary (AS), Allah answers them and the others who rejected Jesus as a Prophet and any other Messenger or Prophet (AS) aforetime, and indeed many on Nairaland who claim that no miracle and/or Prophetic office came through and occupied by Mustapha (AS), by the below verse from Surah Kahf:


18:106: Muhsin Khan: "That shall be their recompense, Hell; because they disbelieved and took My Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and My Messengers by way of jest and mockery

@Davidylan: « #9 on: Today at 12:07:59 AM »

are muslims really fasting when all they do is eat a heavy breakfast earlier than normal, skip lunch and then have an early light dinner?
You're basically only missing one of three meals in a day!
If this is the case then i can boldy claim to have been observing the ramadan fast DAILY for the last 3-4 yrs. I skip breakfast, mostly skip lunch and have a late dinner. What's the difference?

I have to laugh at you because, unlike any "fast" ramadan will shake you to the core, at least a day in that whole 29 or 30 days! And you can eat all the heavy food you want, and do no hard work, you do not control your body, because God the Designer Controls it. Have you ever heard somebody remarking that he just ate, but yet still hungry?

In winter time in america, we may break fast at the setting of the sun, which is around 4.28 pm, while the time of dawn was a mere 4.48 am around December 11. This fasting is a mere 11 hours or less, and when you contrast that to say summer time, June 11, when dawn arrives at 3.44 am and sun sets at 8.30 pm, a fasting period of just shy of 17 hours, you will see that it is no joke, at all in America. I remember my fasting in the summer months, in the 70s all the way to say 85, but I do not feel more fatigue then than I feel now!

Even if you eat yourself to ruin, ramadan will leave its mark on you, if you are fasting it, properly at all. Skipping "lunch", as you have qualified it is not it, my man. Its like being a desert, and you could take off your clothing and just cover your head, the fact that you are in the desert will make you know that it is desert! The heat will get you. Yet, if Allah Wills it, you can even wear a suit have your 4 in 1 knot, or full or half windsor knot or a bow tie, if you will not get the pang of the heat and be dehydrated, your Creator will make it easy by His Will!

Try it david. Become a muslim, fr the rest of the ramadan, to proof Islam wrong. Go take sghahadah, make 5 daily prayers, go to Tarawih (Ashamu as the yoruba calls it; wrong wording), wake up and eat and stop 10 minutes before the period of dawn. In the ast coast, t will be from 4.50 to say 5.00am, for the rest of the fasting period. Eat 10 servings for your early morning and dont play Scrooge as an Ijebu man. Then the breaking of fast is 7.33 to 40 pm here today in down state, depnding where you are. Everyday from there onward, take off a minute from the day before and break your fast aearlier daily. I guarantee you that if you make prayer and sincerely observe the fast, and take the filth of gods and idolworship out of your life, you will be find out that Khaki no be leda, before long.

I bet that you will never go out and back to anyting else after you discover Islam!

And those of you who care to learn about Miracles from Allah through the hands of Muhammad (AS), you have your chance by this below website:

www.dislam.org/content/view/169/42/ - Cached - Similar

and this is just a simple beginning of the miracles performed by Allah through Muhammad (AS). And miracles performed in the lives of believers by Allah are also through the hands of the prophet (AS), even though he is dead. Afetrall, the christians claim that Jesus is the one responsible for the miracles in their lives, and God the Father and God the Holy ghost have nothing to do with any! Lol.

Osisi, am waiting, woman and I hate to be kept waiting.

Abu 'Abd al-Rahman al-Yamani (also known as Tawus), one of the greatest Tabi'un scholars and one who made pilgrimage times and performed the morning prayer with ablution of the night prayer for years continuously, stated with certainty: "Whenever an insane person came to God's Messenger, he or she was cured as soon as the Messenger put his hand on his or her chest. There were no exceptions." As such a great authority, one who lived during the last phase of the Time of Happiness (the time of the Prophet and his four Rightly-Guided Caliphs) had such a definite conviction, it is unquestionable that the Prophet cured everyone who came to him. As this fact became known, we can assume that thousands of people appealed to him.

Below are list of referece sources. Now, Pligrim.1, I know the school should be starting up soon, make your own research. $Osisi, and Davidylan, please do the same. And Osisi, lay of the Quran, until you purify your heart and body. Allah is Patient, and you will be allowed to live out your entire life, as Only He Wills it for you. Then if you have not changed, and am hoping that you do, then you will get Justice from Him. Now swallow that.


[1]] Shifa', 1:322, related by Ibn Ishaq, Tabarani, and Bayhaqi.

[2] Shifa', 1:322, related by Tirmidhi and Bayhaqi.

[3] Bukhari, 4:58; Ibn Hanbal, 1:85; also related by Muslim and Tabarani.

[4] Bukhari, 5:170; Shifa', 1:323.

[5] Al-Jami' al-Saghir, no. 1290, related by Nasa'i, Tirmidhi, Ibn Maja, Ibn Khuzayma, and Hakim.

[6] Shifa', 1:324; 'Ali al-Qari, Sharh al-Shifa', 1:656.

[7] Shifa', 1:324, related by Bayhaqi, Ibn Ishaq, Ibn Kathir, and Ibn Hajar.

[8] Ibid., 1:323; Majma' al-Zawa'id, 6:143; Bayhaqi, 6:185.

[9] Ibn Hanbal, 1:107; Shifa', 1:323; Ibn Hibban, 9:47; Bayhaqi, 6:179.

[10] Majma' al-Zawa'id, 8:298, related by Tabarani and Bayhaqi.

[11] Ibn Maja, no. 3532; Hakim, 2:618; Bayhaqi, 6:82.

[12] Ibn Hanbal, 4:172; Darimi, 1:11-12; also related by Bayhaqi and Tabarani.

[13] Hakim, al-Mustadrak, 4:62-63; also related by Tabarani and Bayhaqi.

[14] Ibn Kathir, al-Bidaya wa al-Nihaya, 6:158, also related by Bayhaqi.

[15] Shifa', 1:319; Kanz al-'Ummal, 4:379; Bayhaqi, 6:59.

[16] Shifa', 1:328; Bayhaqi, 5:243; also related by Ibn Hibban. [This incident should not be misunderstood. The Messenger must have discerned that the boy would cause great harm for both himself and the society and, in order to prevent this for the good of both the boy, especially with respect to his eternal life in the Hereafter, and the society, prayed against him. A similar significant incident is related in the Qur'an (18:74, 8 0-81) (Tr.)]

[17] Majma 'al-Zawa'id, 8:312; Shifa', 1:325; related by Tabarani.

Eighth example: Six children were honored with the Prophet's miracles. They are as follows:

•Ibn Abi Shayba, a man of perfect character and profound research and a well-known Traditionist, reports: "A woman came to God's Messenger with a retarded boy who could not speak. God's Messenger rinsed his mouth with water, washed his hands, gave the water to the woman, and told her to have the boy drink it. After the boy had done so, he was cured completely and became so wise and intelligent that he was superior to even the most prudent person."[11]


•Ibn 'Abbas reports that an insane child was brought to God's Messenger. The Messenger put his hand on the child's chest, which caused the child suddenly to vomit a black object resembling a small cucumber. The child was cured instantly.[12]


•Imam Bayhaqi and Nasa'i relate that a boiling saucepan fell on Muhammad ibn Khatib's arm and entirely scalded it. God's Messenger healed the boy by stroking the injured hand and applying his saliva.[13]


•A mute boy came to God's Messenger. When God's Messenger asked him who he was, the boy said: "You are The Messenger," and began to speak.[14]


•Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti, the leading scholar of his age and who was honored with conversation with God's Messenger many times while awake, related and verified that a newly born baby from Yamama was brought to God's Messenger. When the Messenger turned his face to him, the baby began to speak and said: "I bear witness that you are the Messenger." God's Messenger replied: "May God bless you." After that, the baby never spoke during his infancy. He had been honored with this miracle and the prayer of "May God bless you,"[15] and became famous with the title Mubarak al-Yamama (The Blessed One from Yamama).


•An ill-natured boy interrupted God's Messenger by passing before him while he was praying. God's Messenger said: "O God, let him not leave any traces." After this, the boy was punished for his bad behavior by becoming unable to walk.[16]


•A shameless woman with the mind of a child once asked for a morsel of food which God's Messenger was eating. He gave her one, but she responded: "I want the one in your mouth." God's Messenger gave it to her. After eating it, she became the shyest woman in Madina.[17]
Like these eight, there are perhaps 800 more examples of similar miracles, most of which are recorded in the books of Tradition and his biography. Since his hand was like a drugstore of Luqman, his saliva the life-giving water (elixir) of Khadr, and his breath the health-giving breath of Jesus, and since humanity is subject to disease, many people resorted to him. Sick, young, and insane people flocked to him and were cured

Fifth example: Imam Baghawi reports and verifies that during the Battle of Khandaq (the Ditch), an unbeliever broke 'Ali ibn al-Hakam's leg. When God's Messenger stroked it, the leg was healed instantly. The soldier continued to fight without even dismounting from his horse.

Sixth example: Traditionists, primarily Imam Bayhaqi, relate that once Imam 'Ali was very sick. As he was alone and groaning out a prayer for his cure, God's Messenger came in and asked God to heal him. He then told 'Ali to get up, touching him with his foot. 'Ali was healed at once and later said: "Since then I have never caught the same illness."[9]

Seventh example: This is the famous story of Shurahbil al-Jufi. A tumor in his palm made it impossible for him to hold his sword and his horse's reins. God's Messenger wiped the tumor and massaged it until no sign of it remained.[10]

More Miracles from Allah through the hands of Muhammad (AS).


Fourth example: Ibn Wahb, a great Tradition authority, reports: When Mu'awwidh ibn 'Afra, one of the martyrs of the Battle of Badr, fought with Abu Jahl, the accursed Abu Jahl cut off one of his hands. Mu'awwidh took his severed hand to God's Messenger. The Messenger stuck the amputated hand onto Mu'awwidh's wrist and applied his saliva to it. It healed at once, and Mu'awwidh returned to the battle and fought until he was martyred.[6] Ibn Wahb reports that during the same battle, Hubayb ibn Yasaf received such a sword blow on the shoulder that it seemed that his shoulder had been split in two. God's Messenger held the parts together, breathed on them, and the wounded shoulder healed.[7]

#Quote
Why has Muhammad's 'greatest miracle' not been able to open the eyes of the blind, the ears of the deaf, or benefitted the needy and helpless in Islam, just as the miracles of Moses and Jesus which delievered and saved people?#

On opening of eyes of the blind, read below:

From ‘Ibn Kathirs The Life of the Prophet Muhammad, Al-sira Al-Nabawiyya, volume 2’ :

HOW THE PROPHET (PBUH) REPLACED QATADA’S EYE:

Al-Bayhaqi stated, in the Dalail (The Signs), “Abu Sad al-Malini informed us quoting Abu Ahmed b. Adi, quoting Abu Yala, quoting Yahya al-Himmant, quoting Abd al-Aziz b. Sulayman b. al-Ghasil, from Asim b. Umar b. Qatada, from his father, from his grandfather Qatada b. al-Numan, that his eye was wounded at Badr and that its pupil came down on his cheekbone. They were about to slice it off, but asked the Messenger of God (SAAS) who said they should not do this. He then said a prayer for him, covering his cheek with his palm. And later you could not tell which of his eyes had been struck!”

rather it is the below that is correct, because it is the eyeball and not the pupil. The Christian scholarship should have help Pligrim.1 , Batu, Osisi, Davidylan, Nossycheek, Mr.Pataki, etc to know better!



First example: Qadi 'Iyad reports in his Shifa', through numerous channels and a chain of exalted narrators from Sa'd ibn Abi Waqqas, a servant and military commander of God's Messenger, commander-in-chief of the army that conquered Persia during 'Umar's caliphate, and one of the ten Companions promised Paradise during their life. He said: "I was beside God's Messenger during the Battle of Uhud. He shot arrows at the unbelievers until his bow was broken, after which he began to give his arrows to me. Each time he gave me a featherless arrow, he ordered me to shoot it, which I did. And it flew like one with feathers, piercing an unbeliever's body. In the meantime, Qatada ibn Nu'man was hit and one of his eyeballs protruded. God's Messenger used his hand to replace the eyeball in its socket. The eye healed at once, as if nothing had happened, and became even better than the other one."[1]

This incident became so well-known that when one of Qatada's grandsons met Caliph 'Umar ibn 'Abd al-'Aziz, he presented himself with the following poetical statement:

I am the son of the personwhose eye protruded over his cheek,
But was wonderfully restored by the hand of Mustafa;
Then it became as it had been before; it was
The most beautiful of eyes,and most wonderful was its restoration.

During the Battle of Yawm Dhiqarad, an arrow hit Abu Qatada's face. God's Messenger wiped the injured man's face, and Abu Qatada said: "I never felt the pain, nor did the wound fester."[2]



By Allah Muhammad repeated this same healing of the eye the second time. This is the differences between he the leader of mankind, the Imam of Messengers and Prophets (AS), who Jibril (AS) called brother as if he Muhammad (AS) was an angel. The same man that Allah attached His own to Muhammad, in a way to honor His Slave messenger. The same Muhammad who was humbled and under humility in adorationn of his Lord, even as Allah started Surah Munafiquun with the name of Muhammad even before His Own. Please read below the second time, a repeat of the miracle of curing the eye.


Second example: Authentic books of Tradition, primarily Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, report: 'Ali, who was suffering greatly from sore eyes, was appointed standard-bearer during the Battle of Khaybar. The pain ceased when God's Messenger applied his healing saliva to 'Ali's eyes, and his eyes became much better. The next morning, 'Ali joined the battle and, pulling up the citadel's heavy iron gate and using it as a shield, conquered the stronghold of Khaybar.[3] In the same battle, Salama ibn Akwa's leg wound was healed when God's Messenger breathed upon it


Is twice not enough? The eye was worked on by Allah allowing Muhammad to repeat it on more time.


Third example: The Prophet's biographers, including al-Nasa'i, relate that 'Uthman ibn Hunayf said: "Pray for my eyes to open." God's Messenger told him to perform ablution, pray two rak'ats, and then say: "O God, my appeal is to You, and I turn toward You through Prophet Muhammad, the Prophet of mercy. O Muhammad, I turn toward God through you, that He uncover my sight. O God, make him my intercessor." He went to do as he was told. When he returned, we saw that his eyes had been opened already.

Are there miracles through the hands of Muhammad (AS) performed by Allah (AS) and outside the Quran? Many, but am going to talk about the eye of Qatada which babs787 entered as his primary argument on the 11th of April, 2007. Pligrim.1 is a very smart girl and so is Batu and Dr. Osisi, formerly Babyosisi. When Babs787 entered as pupil, and at the same time used the words hanging and cut about the eye, smart thing to do was to rsearch if it is the "pupil" (a vacuum/space) in front of the lens that was meant. Afterall, it was originally related by arabs in arabic language and english writing of it is an attempt which came later to translate it to us the non-arabic speakers. Could it be that the translator have made mistakes from the arabic text to english?

My proof: In the Quran, there is a particular phrase in about more than 5 places. It is Kun fa ya Kun. In english it is translated to mean Be and it is. If you know anything about arabic language, there is no "and" in that phrase at all, because "wa" is "and" and it is missing from it. But "fa" is not and, but "so"! The correct phrase then is "Be, so it Be", not "Be and it is"!

I now present to you the ahadith that babs787 presented and it is not the pupil of the eye at all, but it is the eye "Ball" the total eye that was "hanging and they were thinking of cutting it", and the prophet (AS) by Allah healed it!


Please read it in the next piece, post! Thanks.

@Babs787: Kudo to you for trying to raise up to answer the question of Pligrim.1, a claimed former Muslim. Babs787, may Allah rewards you, greatly. It is known that when a person tries to explain, in sincerity, even if his conclusion is wrong, he gets a reward for sincere effort, and when he is right, his effort is double.

What surprises me, is that Pligrim.1, almost a cult leader with a great following on nairaland's christendom, should at least made a good research to what came through the hands of Muhammad (AS), that are miraculous, she would have found many. While she raved about Jesus raising dead, etc, she forgot that Jesus declared that on his own he could nothing. This is right there in the Bible. We in Islam do not say any prophet/messenger can perform independently miracles on their own, but their Sender, God Almighty the Supreme Being performed them in the hands of the prophet/messenger (AS), to show their spiritual leadership, separate from ordinary men.

Proof: while the magicians of pharaoh made their fake snakes, Moses made real snakes that devowed them, and was able to simply after that pick up the snake, that in the presence of the gathering turned back to stick/staff.



Did Muhammad performed Miracles? Yes. Waas any recorded in the Quran? Yes. What miracle? I will simply name 2: In Surah Qamar (the Moon), you will read that the moon as splitted into two. And the Battle of badr, Allah says in the Quran; when you threw the sand, it was not you that threw, it was Allah's Hand that threw! Are there many more miracles, in the Quran, yes. But people go and do your research and come back with answers!


Prophetic predictions are also miracles!

the people have even taking Pligrim 1, as an object of worship. She says things that her heart was not not able to accept when she said she was a muslim, how can she find it okay now that she takes 3 gods to make 1 God?

The engineering student girl should have known that having three whole car, there is no way you can make one whole car from them, while they still remain 3 individual car?

The genius should also attempt to make from one car, while remaing whole without being destroyed, three whole cars from it, each being complete and not deficient.

If she cant then you should know that there is no God except One, and three individual God(s) is/are never possible! If there is another God with God, they are gods or at least one of them is God and the other is god, like idolatry symbols of the yoruba traditional gods! Same thing.

@Skyone: « #833 on: Yesterday at 07:49:24 PM »

The Trinidad and tobago lady is suffering from the understanding of biblical grammer and it's a shame they have no national dialect for her to adequately grasp the full theology of the biblical phrases so i dont really blame her.

And should in case she's looking back to the atrocities she's done, hence i advise her not look but humbly admit and confess her self destruction so that she could be forgiven.

Wats the national language of UK where Essex is located? English!

Whats the national language of Trinidad and Tobago? English.

Ogbeni Skyone, oro enu e ti le ju. To Trini- girl, english is the mother tongue, just like yoruba is my mother tongue, just like english is the mother tongue of Prince Harry.

Now take that as a way forward, as you soften your vise grip on her or anyone this blowing-by stoppage you are making, on nairaland, this time around!

@Madamkoo: But Jesus was a man of God. So the tradition of worshipping men of God continues around the world. Nigeria is just being the poster child right now because of the terrible malaise caused by the bad economy from the 1980s.

Everyone of you is correct, by Allah. You are guided according to your will, desire and submission. Allah says that He does not burden a soul more than the soul can handle. The soul of believer receives mercy that allows the little to stretch far beyond what it would, if not a believer. At the same time, if Allah Wills, the abundance of the disbeliever is made to be sqandered that it is never enough.

Everything has its conditions and its exception(s). A person who leaves in a desert, without the abundance of fruits, water and dates may be adequate, and any other fruits may be luxuries way beyond the reach of all or at leat the almost all. No one should delay the breaking of the fast because there are no water and/or dates. Breaking the fast is a greater sunnah, a wajib than the particular halal thing you break it with.

A ahadith of Muhammad that best explain relativity of things is the one that the best gift to give is water. But in a place like US or the west where runnng water is not a problem, an equally gift in the winter will not be cold glass of water but a fist full of "Dollar," especially in todays condition where the song "brother can you spare a dime," from the Money Money Title of almost 2 generations ago.

Our religion is complete, let everyone practise it according to his/her ability, without the haram of the world of other nations. Lets encourage one another to practice more of the sunnahs, and of course the farida, and be gudes of conscience in a physical way to ourselves and for our fellow muslims, and indeed mankind.

deep sight, she is a woman, probably an african heritaged at that. and africans will not purposely exposed the family jewels even back then, with all the safety net and morality of men at higher peak than what is happening on 42nd street and 8th avenue, in new york city of 2009!

you are correct that salah should not be long, rather short or not more than adequately medium lennt of time. and the old man who said simple if it was not an intentioned statement, and it came out in an involuntary way, he does not have to have the badiyyah of 2 sajdah/sajdah sawn because he is covered by the imam.

but am not sure if the unnecessary "talk" is intentional and or long, conscious of it, and voluntarily making it in the salah, if the salah is stil valid, considering that the prohibition of talking in salah is final, "abrogating" earlier possibility of conversation in slah! my statement is similar to when a person thinks that he/she has break the wind, but neither hear the sound nor smell anything, the wudu is still and of course the salah by it are both valid. smelling it even if the sound is silent or hearing the sound, even if there is no smell renders the wudu lost.

@Olaadegbu: #44 on: Today at 04:06:32 PM »

@ olabowale,
Can you sincerely analyse the character and attribute of this Allah as described in the Qur'an and come to the conclusion that he is the same as the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob?

Yes. And you need to read Surah Fatihah to know this. But if your heart is still hard, then you read the names of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and others, and indeed Moses and jesus being mention as servants of theirLord God Creator Allah the Complete without partnership!

The God that spoke in the burning bush is the second Person in the Godhead,

When you read Surah Taha, you will see where Allah says to Musa, "I am your Lord and there is no other god/God, so worship Me!" Read it omo oba, you will see that it is singular and there is no partnership, and Surah Ikhlass (Chapter 112) solve all your confusions! And where you see "We, Us< Our," used by Allah for His Majesty, He punctuates it by mentioning His name or ending it with singular pronoun so that you know that your Lord is One without any other! Heck, the majestic pronoun I use with my wife, should it be less fitting for Allah the Supreme to use it for Himself? You must have heard a person of power in yoruba language saying: Se aa ran e ni ise ni, when he/she is talking about him/herself to a subordinates? Parents are good example of the superior class in their own home, versus the not so superior children in the house! O je lo ko bi awa yoruba she nfi owo ola han iyawo wa (Olabowale is demostrating majestic pronoun for Olaadegbu, the english man!).

our Lord Jesus Christ, the I AM THAT I AM (John 8:58).

Surprisingly he yelled "my God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?"! Thats God yelling, indeed. One partener yelling to another partner as if to say very clearly the other partner is in a better position of authority? Is that how you share equal partnership? This reminds me of the former comforter being a man and the another comforter being a spirit, and i asked many times and so have other muslims, what job description from what was expected of the another comforter, did the spirit fulfill and what was not fulfill, if any, can we say the spirit is therefore the another comforter, if any part of the duty is not met? it may be that you are still waiting for the another comforter to show up, meaning jesus statement is not fulfilled yet, or you ignored the another comforer, altogether!?

I don't see any serious minded seeker who will say this Almighty Creator God is the same as the Allah as described in the link below, which is taken from the Qur'an.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/allah_best_deceiver.htm

Continue to play your "tuesday morning" arm chair quarter backing, since we now havemonday night football. I read Quran in arabic, and I aught to know more about its meaning that a disbeliever who is trying to score one for shaitan as atheist, or trying to score one for zionist as a jew, or trying to score one for jesus as christian. The fact is that none of these is correct. Shaitan will say that he did not force the atheist, but only suggested and they have the freewill to accept or reject, while judaism is not going to wash and Jesus will clearly declares that he was not a deliverer of anyof the lies that the put on him, etc!

In the day when Onagoruwa was the Nigerian Green Eagles goalkeeper, if you are not an ijebu dialect speaker, you could easily think it is an igbo tribal name, if you heard it for the first time. So is Okuneyungbo, also an ijebu name! The pint that am making here is that on one hand why you thnk what you have is plausible, and you take it as truth, having more than One Complete Gods/personalities/persons in One Complete God, you are way off base, sinc this is far from the truth, if you cant fit 3 complete Oranges to 1 equally complete Orange, and you cant possibly bring up 3 Complete Apples from 1 equally complete apple! God does not describe or show us anything about Himself except that our heart can accept it and not raise a set of more complex problems than solved. God is not the "author" of confusion and is there any confusion bigger than maing 3 apples from one while each is completely whole without deficiency, or less than any other?


Now the guy in answering Islam web site must know alot about Quran and the arabic language; Quranic arabic standard is what is used in the best of arabic scholarship. How is it deficient, except the one proposing its deficiency is deficent in the head!? I have no time to waste with irrelevance and the answering Islam is one of them, Ido go there to mock them sometimes and what they say shows their lack of progressive thinking, similar to a man who lives 2000 years ago were to say if he read something about a time that airplane will exist and a means of transportation, that this will be impossible and laugh at it offhandedly!

no2atheism argued that the KJV, etc are complete but not perfect, so i ask you is there a perfect Bible, considering that it is claimed to be word of God, if you must continue to criticise the roman catholic church and its bible that is the "manuscript" for your protestant's bible?

is it not shameful that one is not shuttered at saying "God's word is not perfect, but complete"? shall we not propose therefore that it is clear that it is the word is not from the Perfect God since God is perfect in every sense, or that whoever says it is God's word is not telling the truth but only a wishful statement willfully or out of ignorance?

was greek the language that we need to find the the original manuscript, since nothing in the bible is revealed in greek, and jesus if the argument should completely nullifies 'greek", never for once preached outside his people's territory, qualifying his mission as such that he was not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (jacob's tribal families and tribes and nations from his children, both sons and daughters)?

and to all as you ponder on what i said in the many questions, above, you must realise that ficton may read very well, sound good to you, but it remains a fiction, nonetheless! jeSoul, i enjoy your pieces in many of the threads and i do save them for raining days ahead. thanks, babe. sorry yankee doddle dandy.

as to the potential wife, and the one year of bethronement; where shall she live for that 1 year, and who is protecting her from the vultures and preventing her from becoming community chest/property, etc?

who is responsible for her food and living expenses, housing or she will now have to fend for herself while the parents are relieved of it and the future husband is not responsible in this matter?

what prevent the future husband from not spending the night, etc with her, now that there is no one watching them from doing what birds and bees do?

why is that the burden of purity is put on the future bride, woman and the man, future groom is able to do whatever, sleep with another woman, since there is nothing that he must be a virgin and never been married, except that it alluded to the passage of a previous spouse?

from this one can conclude that the future husband may actually have a wife or wives, already, examples were father abraham isaac, jacob, etc? was this part of the marital law being abrogated by jesus, who said he came to make ure that the laws and thir prophets were etched in the memory completely without a jot missing?

i was attracted to this thread by the above poster' name. nura, i am almost sure its nuratu, nurat, nurah? that should be a muslim, until i red the back and forth between the contributors, paying close attention to my dear JeSoul's elouence, along with others. obviously, i am not a christian, so i am putting the bible pundits to task here as below:

is the ability to walk away from marriage is made more difficult or easier by jesus than what moses left, considering that jesus warned that OT laws and its prophets must not be "abrogated"?

how can you be under the new law when jesus siad the old laws must be prserved otherwise the people who discard them and or encouraged them to be discarded shall be least in the kingdom of God?

what is the least in the kingdom og God? and what is the most in the kingdom of God? is the least a place of punishment because it is where those who o against jesus' recommendation shall receive due justice for not listening to jesus?

for me as a yoruba man, in general africans are not shy at showing affection, fondliness, friendship, etc. from my experience, i would not read too much to this more than what is obvious, they are authentic africans. i remember andy young telling stories about ml king; he ate from the plates of the others on the table, leaving his own plate, where others will go, as per their brotherly mood dictates, and returning to theirs, etc!

am sure, this is nothing displayed openly except among close friends. michael douglas kissed lips to lips michael his son, in the public before. the yorubas are no less authentic african or ethnic people. i will not count this open affection o me any other thing, but mere older and younger africans showing that they do not hate each other. i look forward still, kissing my grown sons in their future achievements, Allah Willing, and still wanna rest my head on my aged mother's lap, and let my bride see that i am 'momma's boy' thru and thru.

true blue africans should not have any hangover about what is good in our culture. we should play follow the leader, sometims, while we are the leader the west follows. Quran says do not let your hatred of people make you be unjust to them. i do not know these men enough to read more than just being african male to their gesture. if your wife is angry at you, she may not allow you to feed her. we can definitely conclude that the men are not in the family feud business.

sisi naija one of the ways for you to trim wasteful spending, and spend even more in more truly rewarding things, when you don on the hijab, down the road. the issue of prudency is addressed, subtlely without being over bearing.

And when Jesus said the generation vipers, leeches, ungratefuls, and indeed fools, will you take it that he was talking to does eho believed in his essage and followed him or the larger population of people who rejected his prophetic portfolio? I hope have their thinking caps on?

@No2Atheist: Osisi and me are insulting each other. Ay least I do not see her insulting me or my wife, and i did not insult her or her family either. I love her like a sister, and thats no put on. She knows it. To your set of questions, they all have the same answer; no. I think the blinds kinda not see that Aisha (RA) used the word "US" to qualify, as feminist, women from the other gender!

That "US" is now clear, I hope. I now say that those among "US" who still remaon "nejess", as dogs, asses, donkeys, cattles and indeed ingrates are the disbelieving men and women in general, and specifically as to the defending position you read in the response of Aisha to her husband (AS), specific to women! Indeed women worldwide are more than men. So there is no disagreement in what the ahadith says and what I explained it to mean!