₦airaland Forum

taharqa:
Na lie before??... Deep down most of d supporters of d man, even d fanatical ones (most of them are fanatical anyways), they know that Buhari is still d fundamentalist, irrendist dictator that he was in d early 80s..

The man even jailed people for 200, 300 years during his regime indicating they must continue prison terms six feet below. He was the first king of kidnappers in Nigeria. Some black men are damn bad.

[quote author=ayindejimmy post=29596574]What do you expect to find in a database.. Cutleries?

My replies go thus;
1. Redirect the question on items likely to be found on a database centre to kingdergatten out there.
2. Didn't APC lie to Nigerians about PHOTOCHROMIC BALLOT PAPERS, a claim that turned out to be outright lie? How true were they on the torture story?
3. Why was APC registering underage members? Can we link it to the expo of the late corper who posted on his facebook page moments before he was killed that CPC officials forced him to accredit underage voters in the 2011 polls? Was BUHARI not the CPC candidate?
4. Ponder over those puzzles and make your premise. I rest my case here.

Chanchit:
na so I dey do my teeth anytime I hear say GEJ wan come tell us hin achievments.

I saw my own 2015 vision this morning, God told me he would run the life of all GEJ supporters the way GEJ is running Nigeria, abeg make una come say Amen o.

And God will panel-beat your life the way Mbaka, MEND and APC are forming allaince to put Nigeria in perpetual born-to-rule slavery. Can I hear you say amen?

tonyot:
...to the humble, he teaches his way. God will continue to direct your paths our dear president. Ride on!
GEJ till 2019

Can somebody say ameeeeen? AMEN.

listenersky:
did you just say he should carry on cluelessly?

Yes, GEJ should carry on so that all Almajiri children can obtain at least school cert. No more sworn affidafit at interview and verification centres.

mrofficial:
I hope he has sent some money to the youths that will be rented from the N21b donated. If not, he will be left with just his cronies at the venue.

Stay glued to your TV set. However, ensure your shock absorber is in good state. It's too early for your hearth failure. Candid advice from a compatriot.

tit:
Operation get Lagos under the Umbrella!
The biggest party in Africa!

Sai Goodluck/Sambo
Four more years!!!
Transformation noni!

I is excited!
I will be there!!!

Yes ooooooo. The best president in the anals of our political history is matching out to annihilate that certificate-less Daura man. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan till 2019.

ayindejimmy:
The DSS have to give us something concrete to work with... Not just bugos lopsided assumptions. If APC is trying to infiltrate INEC's database in order to clone PVCs.. They should have beyond reasonable doubt proof like something incriminating. Something like already cloned PVCs. Pictures or telephone conversations To show how possible that is. Moreover, all these should be done undercover in conjunction wit INEC.
All they've just managed to show us is how desperate they are to please this pdp government. Everything she showed there can also be found in any other party with a database office. There is nothing illegal there. Is she telling us that having a knife makes you a criminal? Without showing evidence of one's intent or ability to plan and executive a crime?
It's illegal to obtain information from ANY suspect under duress anywhere in the world that was EXACTLY what I was insinuating. You don't need to torture a suspect. When you have overwhelming evidence a confessional statement is inconsequential. You just table your evidence and the court will decide. They're suspects not criminals. And anybody will talk rubbish under torture.
The people crave and are going to get this CHANGE no matter what colour pdp try to paint it. And we're ready to defend our votes this time around. They are busy harassing and intimidating apc... Who's doing same to pdp? Or are they telling pdp members are saints?

Do an analytical review of your post and search your conscience if prejudice was not brought to bear. You talked about the suspects confessing under duress, can you tell nairalanders what informed your assertion? I will advise you to look forward to when they are physically arraigned in court for close assessment of their physical and mental state.
You equally passed a bogous judgment on DSS by positing that nothing incriminating was found in APC office. What were the personnel doing with videos of hacking tutorials including how to infiltrate system password and database? Was that a mere coincidence? Was that office equally been used as IT lecture centre? I am not out to condemn APC on this issue but we must be liberal in our judgements and conclusions. Let's wait for the law to take its full course.

SeverusSnape:
COME ON!...I personally don't believe APC have anything to do with MEND, Their endorsement of Buhari may just be a political strategy, Or it may not be unconnected to the fact that their leader Henry Okah is at loggerheads with Jonathan.
This is election period, and every candidate needs endorsements, by endorsing Buhari, They are getting back at Jonathan and sending ripples to the PDP camp.

#myopinion.

Don't try to generalise issue here. Whether we like it or not, APC has shown times without number that they share ideologies with sworn enemies of Nigeria-MEND, Boko Haram, hostile media houses etc. If there's anybody in dispute with this fact, let's analyse these posers;

1. Why did Boko Haram choose Buhari as their negotiator with the FG at a particular point in time? Were there no other credible Muslim leaders in the north?
2. Why did Lai Mohammed cum APC criticise Jonathan for proscribing Boko Haram?
3. Why was there momentary ceasefire in Borno during their local govt elections despite the series of killings and wanton destruction of properties weeks before that exercise?
4. Why is another outlawed group(MEND) leaning their support for APC's presidential candidate?
Can we conclude the above are mere coincidences or preplanned occurrences?

ayindejimmy:
Nice observations you've made.
But how was the confession obtained from those poor people... Was it willingly or under duress? Cos we know how Nigeria intelligence obtain their 'confessional statements'
Moreover.. The Dss has not really shown us the link between all you highlighted and the election. For are they insinuating apc is planning to increase the number of eligible Voters to favour them? How possible is that? The Dss has to proof how possible it is for apc through their database can infiltrate the offline database of INEC and manipulated it the figures in favour of its members. These are huge allegations and we need concrete proofs and not assumptions and permutations.
. To be honest.. All these seems ludicrous.
And who is investigating the PDP... If I may ask?

Good talk but remember I am not privy to how DSS or other law enforcement agents obtain confessionary staments from suspects. However I hope yours truly is not expecting suspects to spill their escapades without any semblance of torture. Be it as it may, all eyes are yearning to see the suspects whenever they are arrainged.
With regards to other details in my previous post, tne OP did not capture tne lenght and breath of Ogar's media presentation. Try other online sources for details.
As for alledged attempt by APC to inflate their membership data and infliterate INEC offline system, her conjesture seems to point to the direction of the party trying to grow membership database that match that of INEC in a bid to clone duplicate PVCs. As said earlier, try to scoup further details from different online sources.

angelsing:
OLADD what is ur take on this topic...I like to hear ur opinion on what Ogar said

Hope you are not trying to force me to talk when I am not ready. Anyway, l have tried to pick bits and pieces of the news from other sources and my conclusion is that Ogar's submissions might sound vague on the surface but a further scrutiny will allude to the fact that some cladenstine activities were indeed taking place in that APC office. How?
1. What were they doing with videos of hacking tutorials including how to infiltrate system password and DB without been detected?

2. Why was there no inscription/signage indicating the office belonged to APC at the time of DSS invasion? Should a party office be shrouded in secrecy?

3. The DSS spokesperson confrmed that those arrested had confessed to culpability in attempting to clone PVCs. Is that allegation true? If it's, then Nigerians should keep their fngers crossed and wait for justice to take its full course.

orlaryhincah:
Took them months to window dress. SMH

Hmmm. You are always the first to comment on politics section in recent times, hope you have not hacked into nairaland server and DB. Just been curious though.

temitemi1:
Hope they have nt started banking on such empty promises ... The real body is now supproting our man ... GEJ till 2019!!!

Even if Mbaka teams up with MEND and Boko Haram, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan WILL win the forthcoming Feb 2015 presidential election. It's Signed, Sealed and Delivered. GEJ till 2019.

Tunjasko:
u are just too dull wt little or no sense...who nw stopped subsidy probe....Buhari or APC??...swerve go one Syd jare....OPONU

Sycophancy and deceit WILL lead you to eternal damnation.

pendy79:
Go back to school improve on your written English before you rant online.

When you're educated enough, go read up where the issue of your mysterious 53 suitcases were discussed and have been discovered to be figment of the imagination of silly, dull, illiterate and brainless individuals like you.

Before saying anything further, kindly edit my post and resend a correct version after which , we can talk. Your parents had wasted their hard earned money on a lunatic like you.

Tunjasko:
May ur lyf and dat of ur generations be truncated d way GEJ stopped d subsidy probe.....Amen

If GEJ indeed stopped the subsidy probe it shall be well with you but if not, your life will end in ruins. Can you say amen? Amen.

pendy79:
When the heavens have your back, they will perfect your ways and make all that seem insurmountable a piece of cake.

This campaign is made easy not by money or popularity but by God's design and intervention to answer Nigerians and their prayers.

Oh! I see. How will this
"messaih" probe the donors if the donations(money and materials) are from corrupt sources? Will he close his eyes the way he did with the alledged misterious 53 suitcases filled with dollars and imported in middle of the night when he was head of state?

deemdeem:

Are u insinuating that Rochas is not financially buoyant enough to purchase this bus with his money?

Don't you know that the best way to prove you are not corrupt is to ensure your bank account does not exceed N1million over a period of 30 years?

Tunjasko:
my prayer for dizz yr is dat God Almighty will direct ur life as Jonathan z ruling Nigeria...say Amen or stop quoting me

May your life and that of your family be run like APC who dance on the graves of people killed by insurgents to score political points. May your entire life be run on propaganda and deceits. Amen.

barcanista:
From what I read, the report never "indicted" Muhammadu Buhari nor the PTF. It only accused the APC (company) of sharp practices in terms of inflated figures. According to the report, the APC short-changed PTF in executing some project ie a contractor short-changes a government agency. Who is to be held responsible? Was the process that led to the hiring of APC transparent? Were the contracts bided for in a transparent and legal manner? Why didn't the government work on the report and bring those found wanting to justice (if any)? Did Buhari promote his own interests in all these? When has operating 3 different accounts for 3 different units become a crime? Contracts is awarded through bidding process, did the APC follow the process before they were awarded? Did they execute the projects? Did they loot the monies? Was there kickbacks? From the report, I see no case against PTF and APC. If there is, I challenge the government to dig up the file and prosecute them.


PDP should give it up. Buhari is a clean slate

And you are always swift condemning GEJ for unsubstantiated corruption allegations. Seriously, friend you need to go down on your kneels and ask for God's forgiveness.

Quelme:
too shallow... Keep grasping for straw... But while u are at it, the wind of change is coming to sweep u off your feet... GMB/PYO2015

One thing I shun like dung is sycophancy. Buhari, Osibanjo,Tinubu and APC leadership know they can't win Feb 2015 presidential poll but nobody expects them to publicly admit it. Friend, forget about the e-war on Nairaland. All fingers crossed.

cool318:
Why are laughing or smiling, so the present situation in the country under their watch calls for laughing instead of sober reflection.
So so disgrace to the Country.

What do you expect them to do? To wear forlorn looks and make those Boko animals heroes? A typical military man is trained to stay positive even in the midst of glaring upsets. Friend, let's sympathise with these gallant citizens who throw their bodies and souls on the line for a united Nigeria. Anytime I heard about soldiers been killed, the first thing that came to my mind was "these were humans like me who had blood running in their veins" .The same applies when I see a policeman under rain and scorching sun controlling traffic for balloon potbellied politheives who seat comfortably in their Air conditioned Jeeps. God bless Nigerians soldiers, God bless Federal Republic of Nigeria.

[quote the author=Quelme post=29570187]too shallow... Keep grasping for straw... But while u are at it, the wind of change is coming to sweep u off your feet... GMB/PYO2015[/quote]One thing I shun like dung is sycophancy. Buhari, Osibanjo,Tinubu and APC leadership know they can't win Feb 2015 presidential poll but nobody expects them to publicly admit it. Friend, forget about the e-war on Nairaland. All fingers crossed.

alaoeri:
Trash from the pit of hell, walk around the streets of lagos ask the free readers associations, artisans, market women, traders, bus drivers who they prefer btw GMB & GEJ and draw your graph the result will shock you, go to Ibadan, Zaria, Sokoto, Kano, Niger & even Abuja etc & repeat same thing u 'll be shock, don't compare 2011 with 2015 the masses are tired of the clueless adminstration all what they are yelling for is change. You made mention of Shekarau, he uses Buhari influence in ANNP to defeat PDP then, Bafarawa is a paperweight politician is sokoto & I can't bet with my left testies that Ribadu won't shake Al-mankura because he isn't a grassroot politician. All what you have listed won't work an average northerner don't want to be associated with this clueless adminstration except those benefiting from it, I got ppl in sokoto, bauchi, zaria, abuja etc giving me first hand information of what is happening in their neighbourhood, if the coming election is going to be anything free & fair, GEJ should just start writing his handing over note, the table has turn, the support of the masses he enjoyed in 2011 has gone the way of the general this time around, wake up from your slumber GEJ is living Aso rock for Otuoke come May 29th this year.
Sai BUHARI/OSINBAJO.

Come to think of it, did you say I should walk on the streets of Lagos, Zaria, Sokoto, Kano, Niger et al and feel the pulse of the people there? Only a mad man could afford the luxury of doing that. Even renown tourists and mountain climbers will dare not give it a try. Moreover, let's get serious;
If you referred to my own Lagos as a place where GEJ is not heralded, then you are economical with the truth. Lagosians are not only disilusioned with APC's draconian rule, Agbaje's re-entrance to the political scene has changed all permutations. Friend, quote me after February 2015, Agbaje and GEJ WILL win Lagos.
With regards to Bafarawa, Nuru Ribadu, Buba Marwa, Modu Sheriff and others who you tagged paperweights, February 2015 beckons. We dey wait

Truckpusher:
Buhari is a big joke .
Last time Mr Oyegun said that past public office holders will not be prosecuted now buhari is singing another song.
Buhari's mantra of anti corruption has failed because it's practically impossible to run around with thieves as friends and at the same time betray them when they've made you who you are.
Buhari should go and deceive his cows not humans.

Spot on. That's the plain truth but APC warriors will not see beyond their parochial thoughts.

seunmsg:
Multiple voters registration was recorded in all states of the federation so stop making it look like the register clean up by inec affected only APC stronghold. Don't also forget that the 2011 election was massively rigged in the south south for GEJ due to lack of Buhari presence then. That amounted for the over 90% returns in the zone. Things have changed now and two south south governors will be leading and coordinating Buhari's campaign in the zone. Rigging will be much difficult this time around and anything short of a 95% total votes return for GEJ in the zone means he will lose the election.

Good talk. It seems you want an expansion of the scope of this discuss. You're right for saying two south south governors are now supporting Buhari but you failed to mention the fact that those governors are not completely in control of thier respective states. Did you see the scanty crowd that attended yesterday's APC campaign lunch? Anyway, that's not too important. Now take this;
1.In 2011, Borno was a full fledge opposition state and that accounted for GEJ's poor showing. Presently, one of the arrowheads of opposition politics in that state and a strong political heavyweight, Modu Sheriff is now a PDP man and he has vowed to ammass votes for GEJ. How about that?
2. In Kano State, Shekarau was a torn in the flesh of PDP in previous elections, where is he presently?PDP.Did you see the crowd that welcomed him home when he defected to PDP? Ponder over that.
3. In Sokoto, Bafarawa was a founding father of APC but the man has ported to PDP. Same applies to thousands of his followers. That's a cause for worry for APC.
4. How about Adamawa? Buba Marwa, Nuhu Ribadu and others who hitherto pitched their tents with APC have jumped ship. They are now in PDP. Have you forgotten that Nyako is now on self imposed exile? A school for thought.
5. Lagos, the second largest base of registered voters was won by moonslide by GEJ in 2011 when Tinubu and Fashola were cult figures. What do you think will happen now and in Feb 2015 when the popularity of the duo has waned? You want the answer? It's landslide for GEJ. Forget that unheralded APC puppet VP candidate.
6.My internet data is about to be exhausted, but be assured that as soon as I reload, more are still to come!

Chanchit:
I just pray this clueless demon is voted out, cos if he wins, its would be the saddest day of my life, cos I would then have to give up on Nigeria.

Friend, that man cannot win jack! He knows it.

aresa:
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If certificate is killing you or is more than knowing the issues, then It is not by force to vote for him, you still have your constitutional rights to vote against him so do that and quit making noise..

It's a tragedy and perversion of justice if I don't respond to your arrant nonsensical sputum. Nobody is dying for asking a prospective president to tell us the schools he attended. Blockheads like you are the ones stoking emblem of brimstones been hurled at Buhari. I guess you too have been presenting sworn affidavit in the interviews you had attended. More grease to your elbows if that's the case.

Dereformer:
It is absolutely impossible for Buhari to win Presidential election in Nigeria.

In less than 6 weeks, Buhari will be defeated forever.

Aljazeera or whatever they call themselves have not told us the number of underage voters in the 12million figures they hinged their projection on. They equally did not mention the percentage of those voters who were multiple registrants.
INEC has to some extent sanitised the voters register and that explains why Lagos Voter register has been pruned down from 6.5 million it was in 2011 to 4.5million in 2014 and this applies to virtually all the states. I know APC e-warriors will not agree with me but Buhari will loose next month election.

macklef:
Pls, i want to ask a question that has been baffling me as ave been ignoring this APC n PDP threads.

Is certificate presentation a criteria for being an eligible candidate for presidency?
If it is since Buhari's certificate cant be presented, why cant he just be droped?

And if certificate submission is not a big deal, as i can obviously see that amidst this certificate ish, the buhari guy is still holding rallys unperturbed.

Why are you NLers giving urself Blood pressure with the certificate ish? Is there no due process?

The answers to your posers are simple:
1.Present someone from your village who obtained eight F9s in his WASCE or NECO and ask him to vie for Nigerian presidency. You know Nigeria is a land of wonders.

2. Don't you know that chronic crooks don't give up even if they are caught pants down? That explains why Buhari will choose to continue campaigning despite allegation of certificate voodooism hovering around his neck. In a civilised clime, Buhari by now, should have confined himself to his cottage in Daura.

I hope you're at home with those responses. Yours truly.

ruffp:
You guys dont give up shaaaa

Give up or what did you just say? Nigerians should give up in knowing the true personality of somebody aspiring to lead them in the next 4 years? Nobody is trying to ridicule Buhari, but as somebody who many Nigerians had died for, somebody who claims to be a harbinger of purity, somebody who has been projected as Mr.Righteous, oh common, Buhari must come to equity with clean hands. How will Nigeria be seen in the eyes of committee of nations if her president is tainted with a record of not having common school cert? Honestly, I sympathise with Buhari been an elder(and I don't like disrespecting senior citizens), but the business of governance is a reserve for people who live above board. HE MUST PROVIDE HIS SCHOOL CERTIFICATE.

Smooyis:
Really do not think so. Not the ekiti people i know.

What did you say? If Buhari pool 5,000 votes in Ekiti, it would stand as one of the greatest upsets of 2015. The state is 98.9% PDP. it's incontestible.