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Konquest:Nice vibes but I find it surprising when Wizkid didn't feature in person in the video but voicing only. These young men are just too unpredictable with the way they go about being featured on musical videos. If Wizkid featured in person in the video shot,it would had added more value to it |
Rossikki:Your comparison with Yoruba aren't as correct with interpretation? Do you not know,some words are borrowed? Funny enough your comparison is basically modern day Yoruba,patterned after Ajayi Crowther's ideology and not the dialects spoken in different Yoruba enclave,even till eternity. These dialects are not easily understood non speakers of yorubas.Olukumi(Yoruba people of Igbodu clan) are in the deep part of Delta state,surrounded by Ibos,why doesn't the language assimilate and be unified with their Ibo neighbours? Tell yourself the truth. Anyway, believe whatever you want to believe but Yoruba aren't genetically related with Ibo,after careful DNA studies nor did Yorubas had same ancestry. This is practically a false. Trust me on this,I have nothing to proof to you but if you are damn sure of words similarities between Ibos and Yoruba, then go and write out the Ibo meaning of over 150 words that is written in Yoruba, which are spoken in yoruba dialects and its English meaning,to see if you are inline or not,in a thread,with the topic; ‘Arab origin of Yoruba'. Perhaps, you will realise the deviation of your opinion from reality and historical facts. Cheers |
watchindelta:It is the bitter truth before us all in our different lives. I hope people can own up say it ,the way,it was said in the past. The past has history to connect to itself with the present and the future. God help us all. |
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watchindelta:It is because, those lies are for self, groups,tribes,ethnicity glorification,which isnt necessary. Truth cant be changed in as much that the western world had documented the contact they had with many so called leaders in Northern and southern southern Nigeria, centuries ago,then it is not worth it with all the fabricated lies being peddled online . So bad |
MysteryFinder:Your baba's story is more or less his family background and experience on earth. Is there any part of it that really deal precisely on Yoruba history? Perhaps, you can shed more light on it. |
Hebrew: Beyt Meaning: Family Yoruba:Ébì-e Meaning: Family |
absoluteSuccess:Ógbón ólóngbón nì à mà fì sè gbón. Abó óró nì à mà só fún ómólúà bì to bà fè ìnù è à dì odìndìn. I appreciate your wisdom. I would have replied many hours ago but had bot problem. I salute you my brother with great humility. |
Obalufon:There are so many things unknown to a lot of people that parade themselves as lettered. I hope you will use the knowledge the God of our ancestors gave you to use it judiciously. Èlèduà à gbè wà |
Good work you are doing out there Hati13 . Keep it up |
OlaoChi:How ignorant can a young lad like you be? Everyone you seem to have come across on here see you as irrelevant so do I. Imagine, someone who had nothing connecting him to any field, related to human history becomes a 'sudden professor?' Oh yes, kindly say my discipline, since you are knowledgeable about it. arrant nonsense. Anyway, the best way to qualify you is that you lack etiquette. |
OlaoChi:Ok ! you are. I Siddon look. |
urahara:How right can he be? I don't seem to understand the kind of mindsets that are on this forum. Is it also not true that the world language was once same? If I may ask you,how are germane words among Yorubas not found in all those languages? The point here is that through each world grouping of ethnic development, spiritual doctrine brought about the difference. Olaochi is an Ibo young man and his opinion is basically his and not relevant. And if you are damn sure of your belief too,then show me linguistic evidence of words shared amongst these three group in the ancient time that are over 200 words. I sincerely want to learn. Cheers. |
OlaoChi:Are you educated at all? If you feel bittered about research,then it is your problem. After all, it is inconsequential at all to me. You send message like a frustrated being. Any way, feel free to quote me because my information is a thorn in your flesh. You kept mentioning ‘youth' as if I am your contemporary? Anyway, I'll keep mute on some things. Enjoy your purchased Ignorance. |
Obalufon:By Felix Omachoko: “IGALA” IGALA is a compound word with “Iga” as its root and “Ala” as the qualifying noun. In Igala language, Iga means a partition, blockade, a dividing wall. The name gradually metamorphosed from Iga-ala to IGALA as a result of the combination of the two vowels (a + a). The nomenclature then became IGALA They were then referred to generally as the IGA-ALA people. The name must have come in the figurative sense of people referring to themselves, as the sheep feels shielded and protected under its shepherd. How are these related to Yoruba? Ọjọ : God Ọchamachala: owner of the entire universe Odobọgagwu : the ally powerful one Anẹ-magẹdọ : the all-courageous one), etc. There is no iota of doubt that these people linked with Yoruba people in one way or the other but not genealogy even if we intermarried and mixed with them slightly because Igala are Bantoid group. Igala,which is a particular antelope isn't the same as a name to identify these group because,the translation seem to refers to ‘sheep' protection set of people. In some account, it was a name of man that founded the sub clan of larger Nupe-Ibariba people etc. And on Itsekiri,they are linked to ILE IFE through Okè Taasé and Owoka-Eweka-Oranmiyan- Odua |
Rossikki:They meaning is the same thing even if the spelling slightly different. One of the reason I decided to stop posting these cognate Afroasia-hebrew-yoruba cognate is because, I discovered that some evil minded, ignorant, and sadists thought many international scholars of great reputation wanted Yoruba people to be called Hebrew for no reason or to have lived in the same environment at one time or the other. I wonder if these empty heads ever thought the implication of such of comparison of Yoruba with one of the most humiliated groups in human history ,that has been backed with archaeological evidence? Yet,you will find NL people who virtually know nothing about human history and based their opinion on their little knowledge they have about Yoruba history. Funny enough philology tool has shown that there are many words shared between Afro-Semitic with Yoruba. The question before many scholars was,how did these Semitic people migrate to the the extreme part of West Africa,without influencing or having some form of link with through which they arrived? Evidence to the route have been postulated by some authors. Bro,if you want to really know the people within West Africa,with Yoruba ancient connection, then use this daily spoken words in Yoruba land and see if there is a cognate with each existing groups in West Africa. Namely: Father: Bà,Ùba,àbà Mother: Iyà,Iyè Grandfather: Bàbà Grandmother: Iyàiyà Family: Ébì king: Obà Chiefs:Ijòyè Sea/Ocean: Okùn Thunder: Àarà God: Olorun,Èlèdumarè,Oluwà Head: Ori/Èrì Hunt: shodé/dé Basket:àpèerè Dance: jo Visitor: àlèjo Lantern: àtùupà Twin:Èjiré,Ibèji Sleep: Sùun nap: réejù come: bo,bo'a,bo wà,wà cloth: àsó(r),àshó(r) There are over 500 words that I haven't seen same meaning or cognate with the so called language family with Yorubas. Amongst the above words, there are Semitic words and these words aren't existing in any other groups in West Africa, apart from Yorubas. Study being carried out are always updated once new finding are discovered. |
Rossikki:Trust me bro, I am not willing to sell my research cheaply. I want to be paid for it. Forgive me if I informed you in an unexpected way . Although I will post few ones here because of your scholarly approach even if I had posted on another thread but for you to see, I will highlight few ones. Like I had said, Olaochi is an Ibo man,whose knowledge isnt deep but Niger-Congocentric without evidence to show anything on scholarly adventurism Quickly, do you know Ebi,Shodé,Ogun,etc are Semitic-Hebrew words with same cognate. |
Moorish:You don't seem to get Moorish? I am no lover of Edo inferiority complex or superiority complex but about his assertion on humanity. I am a representative of reality and I expect you to eschew some form of principle that pronounce Yoruba as a great empire. Irrespective of anything,Oranmiyan paved way for Oba dynasty in Bini. |
Konquest:Thanks for bringing back the memory of yesteryears. Seeing this Citroen reminded me of early 1980s( 1980 or 1981 or thereabout) that I went with my dad to Murtala Muhammed Airport for site seeing and when coming back, through Ikeja,somewhere around the Awolowo way in Ikeja, that I saw this red glittering car that drew my innocent young boy's attention because of the design . Immediately I got closer to the car,I touched it and my dad drew me backward and asked me if I liked the car and so did I nodded my head to it . My father was the one who told me the car's name as Citroen and the name registered in my memory,ever since then. In the early 1980s, classy men drove the car which was different from the regular 504 Peugeot that is seen easily ,those yesteryears. Great work you've been doing. Much Love Bro. |
OlaoChi:Oh K oooo, Thank you for telling me who I am from your perspective. Waste my money? Wait till then. And all I need say to you is to watch out for my book and other things coming from me. Proudly Omo IWA–UWA |
davidnazee:100% correct on not hating any humanoid, irrespective of colour or race. |
davidnazee:I hope the differences in opinion doesn't go out of the forum. Threat of some sort isn't acceptable to me. Cheers |
OlaoChi:You have problem and I know it. Sit at the comfort zone of home and wait for the revelation. Oh yes, I love being called the descendant of IWA–YHWH. Wisdom rest not in the bottom of the haughty mind. Please continue in your delusion that Linguistics claimed Yoruboid language separated from Igboid, Edoid 3,000 years ago. May be you need tell us the year the world language separated in present day Africa. You claim you know but you know nothing Mr. Proof ‘Ébi', Èlèdumarè, Èshù, Orisà etc that are eternal words with Oduduwa-ancient Yoruba . Proof the cognate among your so called Yoruba related languages and stop making mockery of yourself. Mind you I will taunt you with linguistic evidence and archeology. I mock you hilariously because you know nothing. Soon or later , you will subscribe for my journal or my book at the right time. Note: You are a distraction . C'est fini |
Moorish:I hope you aren't going to fight? I am not comfortable with your anger if you have such at back of your mind . Scholarly opinion shouldnt lead to physical engagement and would advise you to take off your mindset from engaging anyone in physical combat. I expect you to be a son of IWA . cheers |
Obalufon:To believe is different from the evidence before you and I. Convince me about the ébi(e) system in Igala with same cognate and I may see it from your perspective. As you seem to think that Igala gave birth to Nupe but the other way round is most like because of Igala has an account as the name of a man.Nupe-Ibariba-Borgu-Tapa existed before the Igala as a name.Go to Benue state and neighboring, you wil notice ‘Idoko' as a name amongst them . Why is this not amongst Yorubas? Tell yourself the truth my dear brother. If Yoruba is linked with these people,there would have been an account to this effect via a prince(s)/princess(es) migrants. Despite Nupe influence on Kabba,she still retain oral,panegyric, language, etc with Yoruba. In fact, there is a quarter at ILE that still speak same form of dialect with Yagba and Okun people as a whole even if there is slight deviation from the dialects. This can't be said about Igala- Nupe ,that you assume as linked to ancient Yorubas. If you refer to assimiliation, I wouldnt doubt because,this is the way intermarriages came in between different groups. Whatever account being claimed by different people are modern on Oduduwa. Beside, Odua had so many names that he was reffered and the Iconic of it all was ‘Oorni', Oonì O o nì ( owner of vast land ) . Many people want to be connected to him but are all these people his descendants ? Practically ‘no'. Like I had said,let us not engage on Igala- Yoruba connection on this thread. Note; my last take on it on this thread. Cheers. |
BabaRamota1980:Nah! I disagree because Ijebu is a towering name that each group that found its way adopted as suffix to her independent clans in the same way the Ekitis did too. There are speculation that one or two crown(s) is/are older than Ijebu Odè. Itsekiri is a conglomeration of different clans of Yorubas that found her way to bank of the Atlantic and very little outside influence on her language, using Yoruba language as the 'evidence'. |
Obalufon:If you say so but we are not. Kindly note, Itsekiri are Yoruba offshoot. Igala are not ,even if they are Yoruboid. Do you know the ancient Egyptians and Hebrew spoke a related language ? This didn't identified them as same offshoot. Infact they were brownish-Dark skin in nature that you hardly could differentiate them but only on tradition. The point here is that Yoruba had a system unique to them because of today. Yoruba may be related to Igala-Idoko via the after mentioned but doesn't go out of it. |
Rossikki:Awesome piece of information. But leave Olaochi, he will always antagonise because he is Yorubacentric in nature. I have more than 100 words of Semitic, especially Hebrew word ,same as Yoruba's. Meanwhile, Yoruba have large chunk of Egyptian lexicons in Yoruba's. This simply sum up the identity of Yoruba with IFA as a leeway to it. |
Obalufon:We aren't . Anyone whose family isnt connected to the people at ILE IFE isnt/aren't Yorubas. Oriki(panegyric) and Ebi system nailed who is/are of ancient Yorubas. The same way Ibariba(Tapa) intermarriages brought about the relationship with Yoruba is the way Igala-Idoko is related to Yorubas. I don't belong to the group of Yoruba that's economical or emotional about the truth. I say it as it is. Ebi system knock 'em all off. |
Obalufon:This thread isn't about Idoko but Edo. Although I had to made mention of it because of some Edo lies peddler on here.Briefly, Idoko are Ata ( Igala ) offshoot people who were the aborigine amongst the Nok culture that changed their names at different times because of migration and parents names identification. They can be found in Benue, Ekiti,Ondo,Anambra, Edo etc under the guise of Igala .They were/are heavily influenced linguistically by Yorubas ,Ibos,Jukun,Bini people etc. |
Obalufon:The present day ekiti and Ondo-Akoko wasn't heavily occupied by the Yorubas but by Idoko, Ika, efa people etc when Bini kept attacking which brought emigration back to Eastern part from where they came from. Chima,the founder of onitsha,wasn't any son of any Bini Oba but Ika - Ibo man . There were Ika extraction in Edo before they had problem with the Oba . The migration then begun around 13th-15th century,Eastward and resettlement begun to happen by these different groups. Same problems took root with Urhobo,Isoko etc migrating away from Bini.Ika, and these other people were part of Edo before Oranmiyan came. And the maltreatment and heavy human sacrifices depopulated Edo. |
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