Christianity Etc › Re: Planned Marriage To A Jehovah Witness by OneJ: 12:05am On Sep 15, 2018 |
achorladey: The other matter( the scenario you are bring to support that article in that watchtower). Let me rephrase your scenario with mine. Read carefully!
For example , you are my next door neighbor. I'm single hot woman & a hot woman (unrelated to me , not my mom or sister) spends the night in my apartment. Two days later, I knocked on your door to preach, would U take me or the good news with seriousness?
Religious organizations and their policies,e get as e be oooooo! . For instance, your daughter is JW & tells U she lives off campus with her course mate of same sex, what would U conclude ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why You Need To Stay Away From The NIV And Other Bible Versions by OneJ: 11:43pm On Sep 14, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: So says a Jehovah's witness who has written his own Bible the way he wants it.
Just because is something is older doesn't mean it is reliable.
Now, let's examine the verses he says are forgeries. Let's compare them to how they are in his JW NWT bible.
Below are the verses as seen in the KJV.
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one
Revelations 1:11
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
Exodus 3:14
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Now LET'S SEE HOW JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES BIBLE rendered the above verses.
1 John 5:7 NWT
7 For there are three witness bearers
**Their Bible failed to state who the three witness bearers are. They intentionally omit it like the NIV as a way of denying Jesus is God.****
1 Timothy 3:16 NWT
Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: ‘He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in the world, was received up in glory.’
***Instead of God was made manifest in flesh, they wrote He. This is another attempt to deny Jesus is God****
Revelations 1:11 NWT
saying: “What you see, write in a scroll and send it to the seven congregations: in Ephʹe·sus, in Smyrʹna, in Perʹga·mum, in Thy·a·tiʹra, in Sarʹdis, in Philadelphia, and in La·o·di·ceʹa.”
***they removed "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last". That is another attempt at denying Jesus is God****
Jehovah's witnesses don't believe Jesus is God. So they altered the Bible and removed places that show clearly that He is God. Same thing with most Bible translations today.
Their argument is that they got their own bibles from translating directly from OLDER MANUSCRIPTS. Just because they are older doesn't mean they have not been tampered with. Satan tampered with God's word in the Garden of Eden. He must have done the same during Paul's time, because Paul warned against listening to another gospel. That same Satan is why today's Bibles say Jesus was cast down from heaven, whereas it was Satan.
If this Jehovah's witness says those other bibles were translation from more older manuscripts than the Textus Receptus, how come they contain grave errors which I'm still not done pointing good out? . Compare the Greek word for word interlinear with. KJV & NWT first , rather than dey add more lies to your opening post. Yes. !!!! Facts are sacred. (The comma Johannes (or Johanneum) is a forgery in 1 John 5:7kjv. 1 tim3:16,"God" is not in the Greek manuscript. "He appeared in the flesh" Rev 1:11 KJV, "alpha and omega" was fraudulently inserted there. Yes !!!!!!!!. Their Trinity lie lie no be today. Make everyone on this thread check it out for himself. Your data no be only to browse EPL & La Liga ...) . |
Christianity Etc › Re: Question For Jehovah Witness, Why The Name? by OneJ: 10:36pm On Sep 14, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: Do you know that God the Father is also a witness? You can't know because the JW NWT Bible and all these New World Order bibles removed the last part of the below verse.
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. There goes another lie. Na the fake & fraudulent 1John 5:7 KJV naim U dey take pose for NL dey peddle falsehood. (Google no be your friend because eee go expose your lie lie). Authentic renditions of 1 John 5:7 naim U dey call. "New World Order bibles". The Comma Johanneum was a forgery inserted into the 16th century Textus Receptus. U find it in Douay version, KJV, Geneva Bible & inserted by Erasmus into his 3rd edition translation of the Bible due to pressure from the Catholic Church who wielded so much power at that time. ( Comma Johanneum not in Erasmus's older 1st & 2nd Bible versions). NIV, ASV,RSV, NASB are well known Trinitarian Bible versions, yet all of them no put that lie for 1 John 5:7. No early Church Father ever referred to that lie in their writings. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Question For Jehovah Witness, Why The Name? by OneJ: 2:41pm On Sep 14, 2018 |
Emusan: Yet you couldn't hid your face in shame... making mockery of yourself thinking playing with salvation is the best.
You lied about Colonialism and missionaries who have brought great light to Africa without a single mission than to spread the good news about salvation.
You lied against the early Christians....
You lied just to justify your organization while diminishing the word of God.
You want to be called a Jehovah witness which Bible didn't recognize but discard (not only discard but also degraded) THE ONLY NAME Bible recognized Christianity.
In Acts 26:28 King Agrippa asked Apostle Paul, "...“In a short time you would persuade me to become a Christian.” At this Paul said: “I wish to God that whether in a short time or in a long time, not only you but also all those who hear me today would become men such as I am,..."
Here Apostle Paul didn't deny being a Christian infact he wished King Agrippa and his men be one just as he is a Christian.
But you can open your mouth to say you should be addressed as Jehovah witness
If you're truthful to yourself, do a research on how your organization ADOPTED the name JW.
You even lied against Jesus being the one who instructed you to ADOPT a name (which your organization had already claimed to be in existence before Jesus era). U admitted on this thread that Jesus witnessed for Jehovah. He was sent by Jehovah. He is a JW confirmed. Rev 3:14. Matt 24:14, John 4:34. Luke 8:1. The million dollar question is , Emusan are U a witness for Jehovah? To come here & write all this jargon is nothing but IBERIBEISM mode activated. If U don't like JW or the name Jehovah's witnesses, no qualms. Pls remain in your lane. Case closed. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Planned Marriage To A Jehovah Witness by OneJ: 2:24pm On Sep 14, 2018 |
achorladey: You are the one making comparisons, feel free to provide the statistics...... And dont bother to go the the secular authorities for stats concerning the Jws marriage palaver.
Consult the HQ in New york and numerous branch offices for that info. They are the keepers of all thing JWs. When you now have both stats present it here.
Your last statement tells me about something I come across in the Watchtower July 2018 study edition about this question........ on page 32.
If a MAN and a WOMAN who are not MARRIED to each other spend the night together without valid reasons, is there evidence that they have sinned and that a judicial committee should be formed?
This must be part of the strict guidelines you follow. Hmmmmmm I hear you oooo. Mr Man, if U have contrary opinion about JW marriages, that's your cup of tea. I believe what I said in my preceding posts. No be today I know.... The other matter, For example , U're my next door neighbor. I'm single & a hot woman (unrelated to me , not my mom or sister) spends the night in my apartment. Two days later, I knocked on your door to preach, would U take me or the good news with seriousness? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians god Have Sex With Mary To Get His Only Begotten Son by OneJ: 2:09pm On Sep 14, 2018 |
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Christian god have sex (fornication) with mere mortal and virgin woman called Mary may Allah be pleased her. Then the one and only son of God was born or God was born.
For those who will explain the biblical meaning of "Begotten" I have already find it.
Greatest Blasphemy Ever. . Jesus was begotten by God his Father, as a created son. U are begotten either by sexual intercourse OR by creation. Jesus himself is NOT God Almighty, Yahweh. Matt 16:13-17. John 20:30,31. 1 Cor 15:24,27. U can't twist or distort this. The only other way to explain it away amounts to self deceit. Them plenty here wey dey do am. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 1:56pm On Sep 14, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: Nobody is saying blood transfusion should be the only way of treating a patient whose condition requires such. What we are saying is that no one should go about spreading lies against blood transfusion and saying it is against the commandment of God.
Just because it worked for the baby doesn't mean it always worked. As a matter of fact, you guys are no different from the Catholic Church which you castigate all the time for forcing babies to be baptized. Here you have forced a little baby under a false religious doctrine. If the baby had died, you would have prevented her from having a life. You forced your own opinion on the child religiously. How is that different from what Catholics do with infant baptism?
Bloody Hypocrites. Hypocrite dey mumu dey run him mouth. "No one is saying blood transfusions is the only way of treating a patient whose conditions required such" ( LIAR. U just changed tune SUDDENLY. Go review ALL your posts on this thread... Hhmmm!) . Him shame no go let am say the child survived because her parents refused alBHAGDADI so called "life-saving blood transfusions". "Just because it worked for the baby doesn't mean that it always worked" alBHAGDADI, to place your statement in context, just because blood transfusions worked for Mr 'A' doesn't mean that it always worked for Mr 'B', pari passu. "if the baby had died you would have prevented her from having a life" ,alBHAGDADI this fallacious comment just proved the extent U would go , to twist &distort the facts. Is it everyone that received blood transfusions that definitely survived? There are various medically tested & trusted alternatives to blood transfusions which saves lives & offer quicker recovery results. Medical professionals (no be quacks wey no sabi say patients get Rights) are well trained to deal with emergencies, to come here dey deceive the public say na only blood transfusions dey save life, na BIG LIE. (If U know, U know). It's all about advanced planning & being prepared ahead of time ("Plans A, B, C, D etc), that is why we call them. "Emergency Services". U no go wait for fire outbreak b4 U go dey find your fire fighting gears & other vital equipments. alBHAGDADI, Na wetin concern this thread with infant baptism? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Planned Marriage To A Jehovah Witness by OneJ: 12:54pm On Sep 14, 2018 |
otuekong1: u r so fool of urself There is freedom of speech. Hallelujah!
Etubom, dalu rinne. Esoso.. ooo |
Christianity Etc › Re: Planned Marriage To A Jehovah Witness by OneJ: 12:48pm On Sep 14, 2018 |
achorladey: Statistics on this your: "no coincidence that JW marriages are more successful than that of non-JWs"
2 Corinthians 6:14 do not be unevenly yoked with unbelievers. The op only needs clarity on.....Who is a believer? Who is an unbeliever? . achorladey, to your last Qstn; do U believe what JWs believe intoto? Your reply is the answer... We advocate strict adherence to Bible standard for marriage. If U could get the Record of Divorce cases in our 9ja Law Courts, JWs marriages fare better than others. Any JW couple having a crisis plagued marriage, just check well, one of them or the two, have ignored or failed to stick with God's principles on marriage. Every JW is well taught on how to address issues on married life. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 10:04pm On Sep 13, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: Onej is clearly an illiterate  They resorted to twist the precise info from those online links. Ewan dan ! When a deluded bigot team up with a serial liar, what else would we expect ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 9:31pm On Sep 13, 2018 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Planned Marriage To A Jehovah Witness by OneJ: 9:13pm On Sep 13, 2018 |
Dnockeror333: I need your input please. I dont know may be it may happen because of the internal marrriage between the JW.
Or should I tell the enquirer to go an date another person?
He is a member of the DLBC though also sometimes worship with the JW at seldom invite. JWs marry only JWs . If he/she is not strong in the faith (those whose obedience to Jehovah's standard takes secondary place in their life) ,for them anything goes . Even if U marry that JW, nothing justifies the fact that he/she broke God's law (marry only in the faith ) & become unevenly yoked with an unbeliever. 1 Cor 7:39. Neh 13:23-27. 2 Cor 6:14.) Marriage is not a tea party. Each one must carry his own load. Therefore, for a JW his/ her choice of a life partner must be prayerfully made, (Genesis 24:1-67 ). It's no coincidence that JW marriages are more stable & successful than that of non JWs, because God's standards & principles is the foundation for JW marriages. (Pls see the Awake ! magazine, No 2,2018) "12 Secrets of Successful Families". or jw.org for more info) Your choice today could make or mar your future prospect for happiness tomorrow. Don't forget. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Planned Marriage To A Jehovah Witness by OneJ: 9:03pm On Sep 13, 2018 |
Dnockeror333: I need your input please. I dont know may be it may happen because of the internal marrriage between the JW.
Or should I tell the enquirer to go an date another person?
He is a member of the DLBC though also sometimes worship with the JW at seldom invite. JWs prefer to marry only JWs . If he/she is not strong in the faith (those whose obedience to Jehovah's standard takes secondary place in their life) ,for them anything goes. Even if U marry that JW, nothing justifies the fact that he/she broke God's law (marry only in the faith ) & become unevenly yoked with an unbeliever. 1 Cor 7:39. Neh 13:23-27. 2 Cor 6:14.) Marriage is not a tea party. Each one must carry his own load. Therefore, your choice of a life partner must be prayerfully made, (Genesis 24:1-67 ). Your choice today could make or mar your future prospect for happiness tomorrow. Don't forget. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Question For Jehovah Witness, Why The Name? by OneJ: 6:06pm On Sep 13, 2018 |
Emusan: So what make them not to be FORMALLY REFER TO THEMSELVES AS JEHOVAH WITNESS?
Why then your organization lied that over 2700 years ago people have been using the name Jehovah witness?
Show me any where in the scripture where people are addressed as Jehovah witness.
God will deliver you sha, see how you linked Acts 15:14 with Hebrew
Anyways, why does your organization dim it fit to be addressed as Jehovah witness when the MEN OF FAITH couldn't do so?
Your scripture reference has no correlation with what you said and even my question.
Whether Christ witnesses for Jehovah isn't an issue (emphasis) the point is why did Watchtower and Awake ALWAYS called these people EARLY CHRISTIANS and not EARLY JEHOVAH WITNESS?
Christ couldn't adopt the name despite the fact that He witnessed to Jehovah [b]but you people now has the authority from the same Christ to ADOPT the name....that's wonderful!
It's already established from the OP that your organization made a claim that was never found in the Bible. Anybody whom the true God has taken for himself ,is a Jehovah's witness. Acts 15:14. U no dey understand English? If u followed the deity of your family/community, do U need to call yourself a devotee, when the facts are already obvious to everyone? U have NOT actually studied JW literature, rather U perused it looking for perceived "faults ". Early Christians were JWs. They imitated Jehovah God & his son,Jesus Christ. Ephesians 5:1. ,1Cor 11:1, But who did Jesus imitate? "Jesus answered them: I tell you the truth, the son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing..." John 5:19. In pre- christian era, faith & obedience to Jehovah's righteous standard set apart (from their contemporaries) the men of faith as worshippers of Jehovah. They don't have to call themselves Jehovah's witnesses in order to prove that they were. Heb11:1-40. Action speaks louder than words. For the fact that Christ witnessed for Jehovah, he was a JW, that he didnt adopt the name, JW , doesn't prove otherwise. He made Jehovah's name known to his followers (John 17:25,26).He was a preacher of God's kingdom. That's what JWs do. Matt24:14, Mark 1:14,15. Luke 8:1. If U are not preaching the gospel of the good news of God's kingdom,the work Jesus did, then U are off key & off point. U are not imitating Jesus. The day would come ,he will say "I never knew you". Matt: 7:21-23 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Question For Jehovah Witness, Why The Name? by OneJ: 4:01pm On Sep 13, 2018*. Modified: 6:11pm On Sep 13, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: You guys have done everything to relegate Jesus Christ to the background. He doesn't matter in your congregation. First you say he was created, he was an angel, he didn't resurrect bodily, and now you guys are saying you are witness to Jehovah, not Jesus. Was it Jehovah that sent you to go preach the gospel to all nations?
Early followers of Jesus were called Christians. The apostles and disciples were called Christians. Today's followers are still called Christians. Anybody who doesn't stand under that name as an umbrella is clearly an heretic and of the devil.
Imagine them adopting a name for themselves which is different from the name the apostles of Jesus Christ were known as.
They not only preached a totally different Jesus, but also they don't want to associate with his name. What did Paul say about such people?
Galataians 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. U came here with a preconceived notion &your obstinate heart would remain closed, U no go agree to see road even if Jesus come from heaven to open your heart. al,whose gospel did Jesus preach? Is it the same gospel that U ,alBHAGDADI is preaching? What is the gospel of Jesus Christ, which Paul referred to in Galatians 1:8? "Jesus came to Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God..." Mark 1:14,15. "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a WITNESS to all the nations, and then the end will come" Matt 24:14. Is Jesus a witness for Jehovah? Rev3:14. Yes. Are Christ followers (Christians) witnesses of Jehovah? Acts 22:4,9,20. Yes ! |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Baptism Experience by OneJ: 3:25pm On Sep 13, 2018 |
johnw74: You are different you claim to be Christian but don't believe Jesus Christ is God in the flesh but an Angel.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The Greek word that God comes from there is "theos" which means "God" not "a god" Your Bible adds to God's inspired Word. U are ignorant. That's all. In John 1:1 ,this is how the Greek word for word transliteration reads: "in beginning was the word (Jesus) and the word was toward the god (Almighty) and the word was god" In John 1:1b, there is a definite article ("the"  which identify an entity ("the word", "the god"  but John 1:1c "god" has no definite article, "the". Therefore, it is imperative & proper to insert indefinite article ("a", ), to make its meaning very clear. Acts 12:22 (KJV) should be "the voice of god" but in obedience to the rules of Greek grammar, it reads: "the voice of a god". (The same rules was applied to Acts28:6KJV "he was god" was properly changed to read: "he was a god". Let's not bend the rules of Greek grammar, John 1:1c is actually "the word was a god"  . In over 13 Bible translations, "the word was a god" (or divine" is the most authentic rendition). Source : John 1:1 wikipedia. Google it. NWT is more accurate than that Bible translation wey dey your shelf. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 2:11pm On Sep 13, 2018*. Modified: 2:43pm On Sep 13, 2018 |
OneJ: "The kidneys do a lot but their most important job is to take waste out of the blood & make urine" Source : kidshealth.org.
"The kidneys remove from the blood the nitrogenous wastes such as urea as well as salts & excess water & excrete them in the form of urine..... The kidney's primary function is the elimination of wastes from the blood stream" Source: Excretory system (Wikipedia).
alBHAGDADI, the blood U consumed or transfused into your blood stream will eventually generate wastes which your kidneys will excrete in the form of urine.
Half baked education to embellish lies , distort facts & mock God's word is worse than ignorance . "The kidney's primary function is the elimination of wastes from the blood stream" Source: Excretory System ( Wikipedia). "You have two kidneys that filter your blood, removing wastes & extra water to make urine" https://www.niddk.nih.gov (how your kidneys work). "The blood arrives at the kidney via the renal artery which splits into many arterioles. These arterioles go to the Bowman's Capsules of nephrons, where the wastes are taken out of the blood by pressure filtration" https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/excretory_system.htm. If na lie, bring solid proof make everybody see am. Coming here to write jargons & throw shades at JWs only exposes your lie lie mindset ,arrogance & obstinate hearts. Metabolism & catabolism IBERIBEISM. Lol |
Christianity Etc › Re: Question For Jehovah Witness, Why The Name? by OneJ: 1:36am On Sep 13, 2018 |
Emusan: The true body of Christ all bear witness to the rising Lord Jesus but a particular group decided to isolate themselves by given themselves a name known as 'Jehovah Witness'
If you ask any of their members, why bearing witness to Jehovah and not Jesus Christ?
Their quick respond will be God says in Isa 43:10 that "you're my witness says Jehovah..." just as they explained it here under the topic: why are we called Jehovah witness? Many people think that Jehovah’s Witnesses is the name of a new religion. However, over 2,700 years ago, the servants of the only true God were described as his “witnesses.” ( Isaiah 43:10-12 ) Until 1931, we were known as Bible Students. Why did we adopt the name Jehovah’s Witnesses? https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/jehovahs-will/why-called-jehovahs-witnesses/
Notice that it was said here that "...Over 2,700 years ago, the SERVANTS of the only true God we're described as his "WITNESSES"
Which means, the NAME Jehovah witness didn't start from them but originated from Bible. NOTE: Originated here means they're not the first people to be called Jehovah witness but every Biblical Characters are all Jehovah witnesses. You can read that from the link!
Now, when reading Watchtower magazine and Awake publication of Jehovah witness. Whenever, there's a reference to old people especially the disciples of Jesus Christ and people who walked with the disciples. Their publications ALWAYS refer to them as 'EARLY CHRISTIANS'
My questions are: 1. If people are actually known in the Bible over 2,700 years ago as witnesses, why can't we find exert name as Jehovah witness directly applied to a person/group of people in the Bible?
2. Why does Watchtower and Awake always refer to the early people as 'EARLY CHRISTIANS' and not EARLY JEHOVAH WITNESS? 1) Men of faith knew they were Jehovah's servants (witnesses for Jehovah), but didnt formally referred to themselves as Jehovah's witnesses. Dan 12:4,8-10.>Through the holy spirit, that insight & understanding came to Jesus followers . "Simon described how God has "taken from the Gentiles a people for himself" Acts 15:14., Paul called these men of faith " a cloud of witnesses" for Jehovah whom we should emulate. Hebrew 11:1-40. 12:1-3. . 2) Simply because the first followers of Christ were referred as 'followers of the Way ' ,these were witnesses too) Acts 22:4,19,20.. In the same vein, nothing changes the fact that Christ witnessed for Jehovah but he didn't adopt the name "Jehovah's. Witnesses" like we , JWs did in the 1930s. Anyone willing to imitate Jesus should witness for Jehovah too.Rev 3:14, John 4:34. 18:37. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Question For Jehovah Witness, Why The Name? by OneJ: 1:32am On Sep 13, 2018 |
Emusan: The true body of Christ all bear witness to the rising Lord Jesus but a particular group decided to isolate themselves by given themselves a name known as 'Jehovah Witness'
If you ask any of their members, why bearing witness to Jehovah and not Jesus Christ?
Their quick respond will be God says in Isa 43:10 that "you're my witness says Jehovah..." just as they explained it here under the topic: why are we called Jehovah witness? Many people think that Jehovah’s Witnesses is the name of a new religion. However, over 2,700 years ago, the servants of the only true God were described as his “witnesses.” ( Isaiah 43:10-12 ) Until 1931, we were known as Bible Students. Why did we adopt the name Jehovah’s Witnesses? https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/jehovahs-will/why-called-jehovahs-witnesses/
Notice that it was said here that "...Over 2,700 years ago, the SERVANTS of the only true God we're described as his "WITNESSES"
Which means, the NAME Jehovah witness didn't start from them but originated from Bible. NOTE: Originated here means they're not the first people to be called Jehovah witness but every Biblical Characters are all Jehovah witnesses. You can read that from the link!
Now, when reading Watchtower magazine and Awake publication of Jehovah witness. Whenever, there's a reference to old people especially the disciples of Jesus Christ and people who walked with the disciples. Their publications ALWAYS refer to them as 'EARLY CHRISTIANS'
My questions are: 1. If people are actually known in the Bible over 2,700 years ago as witnesses, why can't we find exert name as Jehovah witness directly applied to a person/group of people in the Bible?
2. Why does Watchtower and Awake always refer to the early people as 'EARLY CHRISTIANS' and not EARLY JEHOVAH WITNESS? 1) Men of faith knew they were Jehovah's servants (witnesses for Jehovah), but didnt formally referred to themselves as Jehovah's witnesses. Dan 12:4,8-10.>Through the holy spirit, that insight & understanding came to Jesus followers . "Simon described how God was "taken from the Gentiles a people for himself" Acts 15:14, Paul called these "men of faith " a cloud of witnesses" for Jehovah whom we should copy from. Hebrew 11:1-39. 12:1-3. . 2) Simply because the first followers of Christ were referred as 'followers of the Way ' ,these were witnesses too) Acts 22:4,19,20.. In the same vein,nothing changes the fact that Christ witnessed for Jehovah but he didn't adopt the name "Jehovah's. Witnesses" like we , JWs did in the 1930s. Anyone willing to imitate Jesus should witness for Jehovah too.Rev 3:14, John 4:34. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Question For Jehovah Witness, Why The Name? by OneJ: 1:29am On Sep 13, 2018 |
Emusan: The true body of Christ all bear witness to the rising Lord Jesus but a particular group decided to isolate themselves by given themselves a name known as 'Jehovah Witness'
If you ask any of their members, why bearing witness to Jehovah and not Jesus Christ?
Their quick respond will be God says in Isa 43:10 that "you're my witness says Jehovah..." just as they explained it here under the topic: why are we called Jehovah witness? Many people think that Jehovah’s Witnesses is the name of a new religion. However, over 2,700 years ago, the servants of the only true God were described as his “witnesses.” ( Isaiah 43:10-12 ) Until 1931, we were known as Bible Students. Why did we adopt the name Jehovah’s Witnesses? https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/jehovahs-will/why-called-jehovahs-witnesses/
Notice that it was said here that "...Over 2,700 years ago, the SERVANTS of the only true God we're described as his "WITNESSES"
Which means, the NAME Jehovah witness didn't start from them but originated from Bible. NOTE: Originated here means they're not the first people to be called Jehovah witness but every Biblical Characters are all Jehovah witnesses. You can read that from the link!
Now, when reading Watchtower magazine and Awake publication of Jehovah witness. Whenever, there's a reference to old people especially the disciples of Jesus Christ and people who walked with the disciples. Their publications ALWAYS refer to them as 'EARLY CHRISTIANS'
My questions are: 1. If people are actually known in the Bible over 2,700 years ago as witnesses, why can't we find exert name as Jehovah witness directly applied to a person/group of people in the Bible?
2. Why does Watchtower and Awake always refer to the early people as 'EARLY CHRISTIANS' and not EARLY JEHOVAH WITNESS? 1) Men of faith knew they were Jehovah's servants (witnesses for Jehovah), but didnt formally referred to themselves as Jehovah's witnesses. Dan 12:4,8-10.>Through the holy spirit, that insight & understanding came to Jesus followers . "Simon described how God was "taken from the Gentiles a people for himself" Acts 15:14, Paul called these "men of faith " a cloud of witnesses" for Jehovah whom we should copy from. Hebrew 11:1-39. 12:1-3. . 2) Simply because the first followers of Christ were referred as 'followers of the Way ' ,these were witnesses too) Acts 22:4,19,20.. In the same vein,nothing changes the fact that Christ witnessed for Jehovah but he didn't adopt the name "Jehovah's. Witnesses" like we , JWs did in the 1930s. Rev 3:14, John 4:34. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 11:16pm On Sep 12, 2018 |
Go & quarrel with Wikipedia, mayoclinic.org, kidshealth.org etc for exposure of your lies & arrogance. Better still, keep your metabolism & catabolism IBERIBEISM to yourselves.
Na this kain mumu naim some one dey brag say him do "blood transfusions for 200 children" . Blood of Zachariah !!! ( It's so unfortunate that nobody can verify the authenticity of that claim or the wellbeing of those kids now.). Na only Quack doctor dey come public forum dey condemn & oppose the fundamental rights of every patient to chose the medical treatment he/she dey prefer . Lord have mercy. oooo ! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 12:05pm On Sep 12, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: You don't get my point.
You make it seem like Blood itself is what goes to waste and is passed out. If that's the case, then we'll need to be taking in blood everyday. What was the argument? That food which we eat get used up and becomes waste which is passed out. You went further to state that blood is quite the same. Now you are proving your point by stating the waste products which gets passed out of blood. You forgot that old itself remains the same, it's just excess materials, wastes and armful materials that get expelled. All other components remain the same.
For food, nutrients are used up and even excreted. Does the food remain the same way it was before you are it? Even if you eat blood, it will pass out the same way food will. But blood transfusion leaves the blood in its right state and functions pretty much the same way your own blood functions.
You think because you quote links, that will make everyone think you are brilliant. Yes, the Kidney helps excrete urea and other wastes from the blood. Simply because the blood transports it to the kidney doesn't mean it was generated by the blood. Same way you can't say the blood generates the nutrients it picks up from the stomach. Those waste materials are gotten from the body, the blood only helps in transporting them to the proper channels for excretion. [quote author=alBHAGDADI post=71121046]alBHAGDADI. !!!!!!!!!!! I find it hard to believe that U actually typed this lie lie stuff. 1) In your own words "You make it seem like blood itself is what goes to waste& is passed out... (Why U dey lie lie?) ... 2) " Yes, the kidneys helps excrete urea & other wastes FROM BLOOD. Simply because the blood transports it to the kidneys doesn't mean its was generated by the blood..." ( SERIAL LIAR, Just continue to contradict yourself). 3) Blood transfusion leaves the body in its right state & functions pretty much the same" Yet, that your blood transfusion must enter your bloodstream ,go reach your kidneys,it filters your blood & remove waste products from your blood. Virtually everyday, your body obeys the truth but your stubborn heart dey reject am . Hahahahahaha alBHAGDADI "you have two kidneys that filter your blood, removing wastes& extra water to make urine" Source: https://www.niddk.nih.gov (how your kidneys work). Facts are sacred. SERIAL LIARS & peddlers of falsehood are never comfortable with solid evidence. Na so them go dey throw shade because the links I shared dey expose their lies. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 11:50am On Sep 12, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: You don't get my point.
You make it seem like Blood itself is what goes to waste and is passed out. If that's the case, then we'll need to be taking in blood everyday. What was the argument? That food which we eat get used up and becomes waste which is passed out. You went further to state that blood is quite the same. Now you are proving your point by stating the waste products which gets passed out of blood. You forgot that old itself remains the same, it's just excess materials, wastes and armful materials that get expelled. All other components remain the same.
For food, nutrients are used up and even excreted. Does the food remain the same way it was before you are it? Even if you eat blood, it will pass out the same way food will. But blood transfusion leaves the blood in its right state and functions pretty much the same way your own blood functions.
You think because you quote links, that will make everyone think you are brilliant. Yes, the Kidney helps excrete urea and other wastes from the blood. Simply because the blood transports it to the kidney doesn't mean it was generated by the blood. Same way you can't say the blood generates the nutrients it picks up from the stomach. Those waste materials are gotten from the body, the blood only helps in transporting them to the proper channels for excretion. alBHAGDADI: You don't get my point.
You make it seem like Blood itself is what goes to waste and is passed out. If that's the case, then we'll need to be taking in blood everyday. What was the argument? That food which we eat get used up and becomes waste which is passed out. You went further to state that blood is quite the same. Now you are proving your point by stating the waste products which gets passed out of blood. You forgot that old itself remains the same, it's just excess materials, wastes and armful materials that get expelled. All other components remain the same.
For food, nutrients are used up and even excreted. Does the food remain the same way it was before you are it? Even if you eat blood, it will pass out the same way food will. But blood transfusion leaves the blood in its right state and functions pretty much the same way your own blood functions.
You think because you quote links, that will make everyone think you are brilliant. Yes, the Kidney helps excrete urea and other wastes from the blood. Simply because the blood transports it to the kidney doesn't mean it was generated by the blood. Same way you can't say the blood generates the nutrients it picks up from the stomach. Those waste materials are gotten from the body, the blood only helps in transporting them to the proper channels for excretion. alBHAGDADI. !!!!!!!!!!! I find it hard to believe that U actually typed this poo. 1) In your own words "You make it seem like blood itself is what goes to waste& is passed out... (Why U dey lie lie?) ... 2) " Yes, the kidneys helps excrete urea & other wastes FROM BLOOD. Simply because the blood transports it to the kidneys doesn't mean its was generated by the blood..." ( SERIAL LIAR, Just continue to contradict yourself). 3) Blood transfusion leaves the body in its right state & functions pretty much the same" Yet, that your blood transfusion must enter your bloodstream ,go reach your kidneys,it filters your blood & remove waste products from your blood. Your body obeys the truth but your stubborn heart dey reject am . Hahahahahaha alBHAGDADI "you have two kidneys that filter your blood, removing wastes& extra water to make urine" Source: https://www.niddk.nih.gov (how your kidneys work). Facts are sacred. SERIAL LIARS & peddlers of falsehood are never comfortable with solid evidence. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 12:44am On Sep 12, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: Stop talking like an illiterate.
Blood has no waste product.
If you disagree, then list the waste products. "The kidneys do a lot but their most important job is to take waste out of the blood & make urine" Source : kidshealth.org. "The kidneys remove from the blood the nitrogenous wastes such as urea as well as salts & excess water & excrete them in the form of urine..... The kidney's primary function is the elimination of wastes from the blood stream" Source: Excretory system (Wikipedia). alBHAGDADI, the blood U consumed or transfused into your blood stream will eventually generate wastes which your kidneys will excrete in the form of urine. Half baked education to embellish lies , distort facts & mock God's word is worse than ignorance . |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 12:00am On Sep 12, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: It seems that JW doctrine against education is really affecting you. Don't you know that rashes in the pubic area in some cases are STDs? Oh, you think it's all STDs that find their way into the bloodstream. See as your brain dey deceive U ? U wan use genital warts as cover to deceive yourself say STDs no dey for blood. Kai !!! U dey sabi lie lie. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ common-warts/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20371131 "Your doctor can diagnose a common wart with one or more of these techniques: * Examining the warts. *Scraping off the top layer of the warts to check for signs of dark,pin point dots- CLOTTED BLOOD VESSELS". ( https://www.my.clevelandclinic.org/health/ diseases/4209-genital-warts/diagnosis-and-tests "the following tests are performed for genital warts. Men Your health care provider: * Examines visible growths to see if they look like genital warts.... * Takes a sample of blood to test for syphilis, HIV....... Tests for gonorhea, chlamydia & syphilis are taken because STI's often occur together & share similar symptoms". Fornication & adultery amounts to breaking the law to abstain from blood. "The body is not meant for sexual immorality.. Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her..."? Flee from sexual immorality" 1 Cor 6:13-16. Sex within the marriage covenant is sanctified. "They are no longer two, but one" Matt19:4-6.. 1 Cor 7:3-5. If U like start twisting it & looking for excuses , who be U ,a mere speck of dusts, to legislate for God? Shalom. alBHAGDADI , receive sense. " |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 11:07pm On Sep 11, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: Abstain from blood.
Desist, Avoid, Refrain.
Yet you touch your own blood. You touch blood as a doctor. Women touch their own blood when menstruating.
If you want to abstain from blood, just slit your throat, and so be it. Abstain, antonyms.. "injest, consume, take in, take".. That's enough for U to receive sense. Those wey get sense know wetin abstain mean. No dey twist am to deceive yourself. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 1:27am On Sep 11, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: Not all STDs are in the bloodstream. Yes. Why U dey lie like this ? Your urine wey U take go lab go do STD tests, na where ee come from ? Whether U take urine tests or blood tests. All na from same source- your blood. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 1:07am On Sep 11, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: The bold is what I call the sucker punch that knocks Barristter07 off the ring. "Abstain from fornication" Abstain ,synonyms.... "Desist, Avoid , Refrain. No dull yourself. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 1:06am On Sep 11, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: The bold is what I call the sucker punch that knocks Barristter07 off the ring. Abstain ,synonyms.... "Desist, Avoid , Refrain. No dull yourself. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 12:55am On Sep 11, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: According to you, if a man leaves the vagina and have sex through the anus, he still hasn't abstained from sex. You went on to say a man who undergoes blood transfusion hasn't abstained from blood even though he didn't eat it.
But how come you don't say doctors touching blood aren't obeying the command of abstinence from blood?
How come you see no wrong with a husband touching the blood of his virgin wife?
How come you take some blood component?
Shouldn't they all totally abstain from blood and not have anything to do with?
If you can't criticize any of the above, then you have no right to say a man who undergoes blood transfusion has not obeyed the command ''Abstain from blood''. alBHAGDADI: According to you, if a man leaves the vagina and have sex through the anus, he still hasn't abstained from sex. You went on to say a man who undergoes blood transfusion hasn't abstained from blood even though he didn't eat it.
But how come you don't say doctors touching blood aren't obeying the command of abstinence from blood?
How come you see no wrong with a husband touching the blood of his virgin wife?
How come you take some blood component?
Shouldn't they all totally abstain from blood and not have anything to do with?
If you can't criticize any of the above, then you have no right to say a man who undergoes blood transfusion has not obeyed the command ''Abstain from blood''. Abstain , definition: "To deliberately avoid doing something that is enjoyable but that may not be healthy,safe or morally right" (Source: macmilliandictionary.com) . Abstain Antonyms " injest, consume, have, take in, take". Anti JW apologists, receive sense... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by OneJ: 12:38am On Sep 11, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: According to you, if a man leaves the vagina and have sex through the anus, he still hasn't abstained from sex. You went on to say a man who undergoes blood transfusion hasn't abstained from blood even though he didn't eat it.
But how come you don't say doctors touching blood aren't obeying the command of abstinence from blood?
How come you see no wrong with a husband touching the blood of his virgin wife?
How come you take some blood component?
Shouldn't they all totally abstain from blood and not have anything to do with?
If you can't criticize any of the above, then you have no right to say a man who undergoes blood transfusion has not obeyed the command ''Abstain from blood''. alBHAGDADI: According to you, if a man leaves the vagina and have sex through the anus, he still hasn't abstained from sex. You went on to say a man who undergoes blood transfusion hasn't abstained from blood even though he didn't eat it.
But how come you don't say doctors touching blood aren't obeying the command of abstinence from blood?
How come you see no wrong with a husband touching the blood of his virgin wife?
How come you take some blood component?
Shouldn't they all totally abstain from blood and not have anything to do with?
If you can't criticize any of the above, then you have no right to say a man who undergoes blood transfusion has not obeyed the command ''Abstain from blood''. Abstain , definition: "To deliberately avoid doing something that is enjoyable but that may not be healthy,safe or morally right" (Source: macmillandictionary.com) . Abstain Antonyms " injest, consume, have, take in, take". Anti JW apologists, receive sense... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Hell Fire Does Not Exist by OneJ: 8:25pm On Sep 10, 2018 |
MrPRevailer: Why do you leave the focus and chasing shadows? For the topic being discussed, it doesn't matter which pharaoh it is. What matters is they are dead, slain and comforted to see them. The Bible attributes an emotional state to dead people that have ceased to exist, meaning they are still conscious and alive somewhere.,.. "in the pit/hell".
And Numbers 16 also told how the earth opened up and the rebellious princes of the people went into the pit alive. Shiooor ! ". .v33. they went down alive into the grave ,with everything they owned; the earth closed over them& they PERISHED & were gone from the community..... v35 and fire came out from Yahweh & CONSUMED the 250 men who were offering the incense... v49 " But 14,700 DIED from the plague in addition to those who had DIED because of korah" Num 16:30,33-49. Yahweh did not torment or torture any of these rebellious men alive in the pit/hell ( Hebrew Sheol = grave, hell, pit). Rather, they all DIED in the grave. Pls look again at v33, because its NOT hellfire, "they went down with everything they owned" , abi your God dey torture them & torture their properties too? Omo shine your eyes. 1 Cor 10:6-11. |