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Barristter07:
They witness about Jehovah! Yes or No ?



That expression is similar to Jesus saying " Your Faith made you well " , does it mean the person heal their self ? Same applies to John 2:19


Jehovah God His Father raised him up ! Says Galatians 1:1 . Receive sense AlBHAGDADI !

You see your level of ignorance, True Christians still need to witness Jehovah God to you as well . Just as Christians of early times do to unbelievers .

"God resurrected him (Jesus)" Acts 2:24.

achorladey:
That was the view of Jws previously up until 2016 when it was readjusted and a new direction taken by the Governing body of Jehovah's witnesses printed another article in the watchtower of June 2016 page 16-17 an interesting line about that is below.....

In the past, we have explained that in the modern-day fulfillment of this vision, the man with the secretary’s inkhorn represented the anointed remnant(144,000) and their Companions (THE GREAT CROWD). It was thought that those who respond favorably to the message being preached(by JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES) are now MARKED for survival. In recent years, however, it has become clear that an adjustment needs to be made to this explanation. According to what is stated at Matthew 25:31-33 , Jesus is the one who judges people. He makes his final judgment during the time of the great tribulation, separating the sheeplike ones, who will survive, from the goatlike ones, who will be destroyed.


Please who adjust your understanding, JEHOVAH/JESUS.

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achorladey, "budatuum's question is: "do JWs plan to exterminate those who do not agree with them?"
U are very crooked.

achorladey , who wrote the "vision of the man with the Secretary's ink horn", was it done by JWs ?

2) Who is the source of Matt 25:31-33? Na JW write those verses for Bible ?

These threads are still ongoing on NL forum.
"5 Old beliefs of Pastor kumuyi of Deeper Life....";
"Pastor Kumuyi: I will remove some doctrines in Deeper Life....". etc.

achorladey, U & you crew hero worship him and see nothing wrong in this steps he took.
Him still be una MOG & infallible GOM.


Yet, all of Una dey take madquinine because Jehovah's people , we who really study God's & are quick to align ourselves to God's word & his principles as we gain more insight & understanding.
To do so is HUMILITY.

Una hypocrisy no get rival.

Many times Jesus had to adjust the beliefs of his followers ,so that they will gain more insight & understanding. Matt 20:20-23. Mark 9:30-37.
Even when some of his apostles fled & denied him in his hour of distress, (Mark14:27-31,37-51,66-72), achorladey did Jesus label them a cult or fake prophets?

Many centuries ago, it was believed that the earth was flat, achorladey is that belief still valid today?
Why did U not stick with the earth is flat belief?
Jehovah's people must continue learning & be humble to follow the God's word & stick with his standards, no matter what?

"What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world,yet forfeits his soul?" Matt 16:26.

"... be afraid of the One who can DESTROY both SOUL & body in Gehenna" Matt 10:28.

Jesus Christ actually confirmed that the soul is very mortal, contrary to Greek philosophical thought founded on pagan ideas & beliefs which has become popular in Christendom .
Besides, Christ knew how man (Adam) was created. He is a very credible & reliable source of truth about the soul.

budaatum:
Jesus never exterminated anyone! And God sef got tired of exterminations very early on with Noah and salt, or was it a burning, unless one wants to consider the numerous sackings of Jerusalem.

Pls read again & note what those quoted Bible verses revealed. The coming of the son of man, Jesus Christ , to pass judgement & destroy wickedness, just like in Noah's day. It's a futuristic event that will certainly happen. Discovery of Noah's ark & frozen mammoth some where in the Caucasus region attests to the great flood that occurred in Noah's day. Shalom.

budaatum:
Not a lot of people agree with this mode of thought anymore. It was common in Europe in the past, but not anymore do people feel the need to exterminate those who don't agree with some religious arrangement of gods that aren't their own gods. With the exception of the likes of alqaeda, isis, bokoharam, it's almost non-existent anywhere in fact. A lot of people just live and let live.

So, do JWs plan to exterminate those who don't agree with them?

JWs DON'T (& cant exterminate "those who don't agree with them"
Just like Noah did, our assigned is to preaching the Gospel of God's kingdom Matt24:14. Mark 13:10. . 2pet 2:5-7.

The judgement & extermination of wickedness from the whole world, God gave that assignment for Jesus to perform..
2 thesis 1:5-9.. Matt 24:36-39.
john 5:22,27.
Shalom

alBHAGDADI:
That verse still centres around Jesus. Nowhere are we instructed to call ourselves Jehovah'switnesses. We are disciples of Jesus, so we are Christians.

Jesus said he "bear witness to the truth (God's word, John 18:37), therefore, he witnessed for God, Jehovah his Father.
" For we have testified (Witnessed) about God that he raised Christ from the dead " 1Cor15:15. For once in your life, admit the truth U saw in that verse -Witnesses of God testified that Christ was raised from the dead.

See your lie " that verse centres around Christ".
Ogbeni, did Christ raised himself from the dead? U leave substance dey chase shadow. Dalu. rinne !!!!

Barristter07:
" We are also ... witnesses of God [Jehovah] " 1 Corinthian 15:15

Think before you talk.



Think before you talk, So show me which of the Bold Jehovah's Witnesses don't bear witness to ?

You people are not serious at all

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Barrister 07, can any one led by "blind guides" a.k.a. Daddy GO's & pastorpreneurs ever see the light of truth?

Their mumu is beyond redemption but then, every honest hearted observers/ guests of this thread can attest who speaks the truth... JW's off course!
Ekushe oooo.
Shalom .

OneJ:
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Lie lie Lienus !

Emusan posted these : "Why did herad of Jesus Christ change to Jehovah witness ,if there's no difference"?

"I'm still waiting for your answer to why herad for Christ change to Jehovah witness..."
So , U no understand the meaning of wetin U dey post for this thread ? Kai !!!!!!!
No wonder !! HHhmmmm !!!!

Him still dey argue blindly even after all the scriptural proofs that TATIME, Barrister07 & others have given on this thread.

If I missed your question s, kindly repost, pls.


Emusan, explain Acts 3:13,26. John 7:16.
No fall your hand.

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Emusan,it's a waste of precious time to engage U in any discussion whatsoever. Go show these your posts with quotation marks (" " to someone else who understands English to help U make sense of what U have posted here.
Better still, ask Seun to help U out.

If na inside Court U yarn that opata , na Oturugbeke go be your new name.

alBHAGDADI:
They saw people who saw and walked with him. Jesus was seen by humans. But since creation, no man has seen God. So, how can you say you are a witness to someone you nor any mankind has ever seen?

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". Jesus was seen by humans. But since creation, no man has seen God" Hhmmm !!

The Trinity falsehood peddler done change tune suddenly.
Have U actually thought about the implications of your statement ?

For that thread (" my take on Trinity ..." by tomakint ), him & his crew they rant up & down say Jesus na God.
U come this thread dey make contradictory statement.
Abi, Jesus no be your Almighty God again?

achorladey:
OneJ: Achorladey, whom did Jesus Christ bear witness about?

Achorladey: He bear witness about his father?

OneJ: What's the source of the Gospel that Jesus proclaimed?

Achorladey: From his father.

OneJ: Is the servant more important than the One who sent him?

Achorladey: The servant(JESUS) was made so important that Phillipians 2:9-11 states.....for this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend-of those in heaven and those know earth and those under the ground- and every tongue openly acknowledged(WITNESS if you want) that JESUS CHRIST is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
Peter even said for a certaintyGod made him Lord and Christ.

MY QUESTION:

Who is our leader/teacher?

What/who did the leader/teacher ask us to bear witness about?

Where did he get the power and authority he used in commanding/ teaching us to do so?

Who gave him the power/authority?

Did the personality that gave our leader such power and authority APPROVE the commandments/teaching he gave us?

Are you willing to override/overrule the commandments/teaching?

Will you advise any other person to overstep such commands/teachings?

Did the personality that gave the servants power asked us to listen to him?

Was the Servant arrogant or authoritarian or claimed self importance or commendation when asking/teaching us?

What did the servant say about anyone who disown him? Will the servant disown such one?

Who did the servant ask us to live for?

Are you willing to live for him?

Who has the father used as Mediator?

Is the Mediator as important as the One is mediating for?

Indeed, God made him lord & Christ ,Christ will forever be under Jehovah's authority. 1 Cor 15:24,27. Pharaoh told Joseph: "I hereby put you in charge of the whole land of Egypt" but Joseph was NEVER above Pharaoh Gen 41:40-44.

1) matt23:10 Jesus.
2)John 18:37, bear witness to the truth about God's kingdom by preaching. Mark1:14,15. He that is on the side of the truth listens to my voice." U gonna do Christ's work- preaching. Matt24:14.
3,4) From his Father, Jehovah. Matt 11:27
5) Yes
6) No
7) No
Yes
9) No
10) If u disowned him, his servants would disown U.. That's the principle in Luke 12:9, 9:26.
11,12,13) Rom 6:10 Christ lives to God, we live to God, by Christ Jesus. That's the principle we apply.
14) Jesus is mediator.
15) Mediator is important, but his importance can not supercede the One who exalted him. (Like Pharaoh & Joseph ) 1Cor 15:24,27. Christ is still answerable to his Father ,Jehovah.
Shalom

achorladey:
OneJ: Achorladey, whom did Jesus Christ bear witness about?

Achorladey: He bear witness about his father?

OneJ: What's the source of the Gospel that Jesus proclaimed?

Achorladey: From his father.

OneJ: Is the servant more important than the One who sent him?

Achorladey: The servant(JESUS) was made so important that Phillipians 2:9-11 states.....for this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend-of those in heaven and those know earth and those under the ground- and every tongue openly acknowledged(WITNESS if you want) that JESUS CHRIST is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
Peter even said for a certaintyGod made him Lord and Christ.

MY QUESTION:

Who is our leader/teacher?

What/who did the leader/teacher ask us to bear witness about?

Where did he get the power and authority he used in commanding/ teaching us to do so?

Who gave him the power/authority?

Did the personality that gave our leader such power and authority APPROVE the commandments/teaching he gave us?

Are you willing to override/overrule the commandments/teaching?

Will you advise any other person to overstep such commands/teachings?

Did the personality that gave the servants power asked us to listen to him?

Was the Servant arrogant or authoritarian or claimed self importance or commendation when asking/teaching us?

What did the servant say about anyone who disown him? Will the servant disown such one?

Who did the servant ask us to live for?

Are you willing to live for him?

Who has the father used as Mediator?

Is the Mediator as important as the One is mediating for?

Indeed, God made him lord & Christ ,Christ will forever be under Jehovah's authority. 1 Cor 15:24,27. Pharaoh told Joseph: "I hereby put you in charge of the whole land of Egypt" but Joseph was NEVER above Pharaoh Gen 41:40-44.

1) matt23:10 Jesus.
2)John 18:37, bear witness to the truth about God's kingdom by preaching. Mark1:14,15. He that is on the side of the truth listens to my voice. U gonna do Christ's work- preaching. Matt24:14.
3,4) From his Father, Jehovah. Matt 11:27
5) Yes
6) No
7) No
Yes
9) No
10) If u disowned him, his servants would disown U.. That's the principle in Luke 12:9, 9:26.
11,12,13) Rom 6:10 Christ lives to God, we live to God, by Christ Jesus. That's the principle we apply.
14) Jesus is mediator.
15) Mediator is important, but his importance can not supercede the One who exalted him. (Like Pharaoh & Joseph ) 1Cor 15:24,27. Christ is still answerable to his Father ,Jehovah.
Shalom

Emusan , see your handwork. "Why did herad of Jesus Christ change to Jehovah witness, if there's no difference?"
Lie lie lienus !

cc: TATIME

triplechoice:
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I only intend to draw your attention to the irony in the op you created

If you know so much about the Greek 's ancient world view, then, except you want to pretend, you should also know that such ideas and beliefs are also found in the Bible. Bible writer's drew extensively from such sources you now term pagan

You can do your own research to confirm this. It will help to expand your religious paradigm.

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I have done my research on this topic ( as to whether the soul is immortal ) , and what i found out is evidently affirmed by the Wikipedia's "Soul in the Bible" article.
Shalom.

Emusan:
When you think you've seen it all but they keep showing case their daftness.



What did I cherry pick?

Can you show me where I said HERALD OF CHRIST is their former NAME? You must quote where I said this either on this thread or another place...if not, don't dare spam my mention again.

Joker, you just rush to Google to do research...and still come back to show your delusions.

This is the reason why I will continue to say that you people lack simple comprehension and I didn't blame you since you're just a robot in the hands of your GB.



Smile, see the dull head accusing me I ran away from his question and compelling me to explain.

Whereas, you're the first person who ran from your first post...which I replied with many questions.

How many times have I asked you to go back and reply that post here?

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Lie lie Lienus !

Emusan posted these : "Why did herad of Jesus Christ change to Jehovah witness ,if there's no difference"?

"I'm still waiting for your answer to why herad for Christ change to Jehovah witness..."
So , U no understand the meaning of wetin U dey post for this thread ? Kai !!!!!!!
No wonder !! HHhmmmm !!!!

Him still dey argue blindly even after all the scriptural proofs that TATIME, Barrister07 & others have given on this thread.

If I missed your question s, kindly repost, pls.


Emusan, explain Acts 3:13,26. John 7:16.
No fall your hand.

suregalluv:
This is where you got it wrong! Matt 24:14 means that the gospel will be preached everywhere as a witness, an evidence, a proof. Jesus Christ is the witness. You can't claim to acknowledge Jehovah when you don't acknowledge the only source to Him, Jesus.

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The actual issue is that U have not grasped the vital point.

Jesus said "This is why I was born& for this I have come into the world, to BEAR WITNESS to the truth. John 18:37.

"Your word is truth" (God's word ) is truth. John 17:17.
How did Jesus bear witness to the truth?

"...Jesus came into Galilee ,preaching the good news (the Gospel) of the kingdom of God". Mark 1:14,15.

suregalluv, U can see now that Jesus was the faithful witness of the the Gospel (good news) of God's kingdom by preaching about Jehovah's kingdom.

Anyone who obeys Jesus command to "preach this good news of the kingdom" (in Matt 24:14 ), has in effect, acknowledged Jesus as the only source to Jehovah,his Father.

OneJ:
Emusan, explain John 7:16, Acts 3:13,26..

Because of your fear fear, U removed them from my previous post. Those Bible verses wey U dey fear, exposes your lies.

" The God of Abraham and of Isaac & Jakob ,the God of our forefathers, has glorified His servant Jesus". whom U Emusan denied & rejected as the servant of Jehovah. Acts3:13.
" ...God sent his servant Jesus". Acts 3:26.

Jesus himself already confirmed he was sent by Jehovah, therefore, he is a Jehovah's witness, the servant of Jehovah, just as the Israelites .

"Jesus answered , my teaching is not my own. It come from him who sent me" John 7:16 .

"Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, my servants whom I have chosen" Isaiah 43:10.

U the cherry picker , dey accuse me of the very deed U had done, hypocrite.

Emusan, who cherry picks what to twist & form baseless assumptions, ("Herald of Christ " was never a name adopted by JW , U dey lie.). why U dey run from my questions? Come & explain
Acts 3:13,26 & John 7:16.

achorladey:
John 5:39 you are searching the Scriptures because you think that you will have everlasting life by means of them; and these are the very ones that bears WITNESS about ME. NWT

The SCRIPTURES under consideration must be over 2700 years old. Who is the ME? Argue with your denomination

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achorladey, whom did Jesus Christ bear witness about ? What's the source of the Gospel that Jesus proclaimed ?

Is the servant more important than the One who sent him?

triplechoice:
wow!
So,you just with one wave of the hand dismissed a whole of body of Greek philosophical thought on the nature of soul as pagan tradition and out of nowhere presenting us with the mythical account in Genesis as the correct one?
Its obvious you have taken the Genesis story literally because that's what you have been thought and come to accept as truth.

So ,the ancient Greeks whose pantheon of gods & goddesses influenced their philosophy & pagan rooted ideas are now your role models & life coach ?

But, triplechoice, are U a Christian, moslem ,atheist or what are your beliefs ,as regards the soul, per se ?

If the Genesis account, is in your words, is "mythical" , also your assertion implies that Jesus Christ is a myth.

Anyone reading this thread is a soul, a living soul in fact.
Animals (ant, lion, shark, etc) are souls.

Is the soul immortal?

The popular view of immortal soul is a blend of Persian & Greek philosophical thought & ideas ,at best pagan ideas introduced into Christendom.

"The only Hebrew word traditionally translated. "soul" ("nephesh", in English language Bibles refers to a living conscious body, rather than an immortal soul.
In the New Testament, the Greek word traditionally translated "soul", 'psyche' has substantially the same meaning as the Hebrew , without reference to an immortal soul".

"According to Genesis 2:7,God did not make a body & put a soul into it,like a letter into an envelope of dust. Rather, He formed man's body from the dust, then by breathing divine breath into it, he made the body of dust live (he infused the breath of life into the body of dust), that is , the dust did not embody a soul but it became a soul - a whole creature"
Source : Soul in the Bible wikipedia. .

In Acts 3:13,26, the Greek word "Pais" means servant ,child. Emusan , your so called "God" is a servant & child (son) of Jehovah , his Father.


(The apostle Peter in Acts 3:13,26, confirmed the God -given revelation that Jesus is the son & servant of the Living God,Jehovah. Matt 16:13-17)


"Jesus answered, my teaching is not my own. It comes from Him who sent me" John 7:16.

Receive sense IJNA

Emusan:
The reason why you'll continue in your delusion is because your inability to explore the scripture by yourself but just stick to one verse the GB has already planted in your dull skull.

The content of Isaiah 43:
was it a future or present event? This is question a right seeker of true knowledge will ask..
Now look at the content..

"For I am Jehovah your God, The Holy One of Israel, your Savior. I have given Egypt as a ransom for you, E·thi·oʹpi·a and Seʹba in exchange for you. For you became precious in my eyes, You were honored, and I have loved you. So I will give people in place of you And nations in exchange for your life. Do not be afraid, for I am with you. I will bring your offspring from the east And gather you together from the west. I will say to the north, ‘Give them up!’ And to the south, ‘Do not hold them back. Bring my sons from afar, and my daughters from the ends of the earth, Everyone who is called by my name And whom I created for my own glory, Whom I have formed and made.’ Bring out a people who are blind, though they have eyes, And who are deaf, though they have ears. Let all the nations assemble in one place, And let the peoples be gathered together. Who among them can tell this? Or can they cause us to hear the first things? Let them present their witnesses to prove themselves right, Or let them hear and say, ‘It is the truth!’ “You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none. Isa 43:3-10 NWT

Reading only verse 10 may seems supportive to your argument but reading entire content it shattered your point, as this wasn't an instruction or a command.

That's why we always tell you guy "STOP CHERRY-PICKED SCRIPTURE" read the entire content and understand what the writer is pointing to but your fake organization won't listen.

Compare this with Jesus statement:

So when they had assembled, they asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” He said to them: “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction. But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Acts1:6-8 NWT

Isaiah statement can be summarized as for what Jehovah has done for your forefathers as EVEN NO NATIONS can have such a WITNESS for their gods BUT YOU ISRAELITES YOU ARE MY WITNESS TO THESE THINGS.

Why Jesus statement can be summarized thus; what you ask for, isn't what you need now, your own is to just BE A WITNESS of me.



I have dealt with this.



Your own is to just ask anyone of them who are they witnesses for...then come back here to ranting.



As Jesus Christ tarries I'll continue to school you guys about scripture, so it's you who need to receive sense and make use of it.

Emusan, explain John 7:16, Acts 3:13,26..

Because of your fear fear, U removed them from my previous post. Those Bible verses wey U dey fear, exposes your lies.

" The God of Abraham and of Isaac & Jakob ,the God of our forefathers, has glorified His servant Jesus". whom U Emusan denied & rejected as the servant of Jehovah. Acts3:13.
" ...God sent his servant Jesus". Acts 3:26.

Jesus himself already confirmed he was sent by Jehovah, therefore, he is a Jehovah's witness, the servant of Jehovah, just as the Israelites .

"Jesus answered , my teaching is not my own. It come from him who sent me" John 7:16 .

"Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, my servants whom I have chosen" Isaiah 43:10.

U the cherry picker , dey accuse me of the very deed U had done, hypocrite.

Emusan:
Hypocrite hiding under someone's post!

Reply to your first post if you dare not.

It's now you see that these church names also the same with Jehovah witness but forgotten that these people never said they witnesses for Jehovah but for Jesus.




Can you provide an evidence for this?



See lies, Jesus said His teaching is not His that's but you people only use Isaiah 43:10 to proof that you're the only person following Jehovah instruction.



Show me where Jehovah said you should witness for him, that's what have been demanding from you since.

English is not your problem even Isaiah 43:10 isn't an instruction/command.

Isaiah 40:10 "You are my witness..." compare to
Acts 1:8 "You SHALL BE my witness.."

I'm still waiting for your answer to why Herad for Christ changes to Jehovah witness if witnesses for Jesus and Jehovah are the same.

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"Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah , my servants whom I have chosen.... before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me" Isaiah 43:10 (ASV).

Why is plain. English so hard to sink into your brain? Jehovah's decree already activated before & after Jesus came to the earth naim Emusan wan change am by force..
"The God of Abraham , Isaac & Jakob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified His servant Jesus" Acts 3:13.

"Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God... The kingdom of GOD is near. Repent & believe the good news" Mark 1:14,15.

"My food is for me to do the work of Him that sent me & to finish his work" John 4:34.

"Jesus answered, my teaching is NOT my own. It comes from Him who sent me..... he who works for the honor of the One who sent him is a man of truth" John 7:16,17.
That Jesus Christ is the faithful witness of Jehovah is not debatable.
Jesus himself has exposed your lies, hypocrisy & bigotry..

Emusan, the official mouthpiece of Anglican, Redeemed , Winner's, Catholics. etc , does their names mean Jesus Witness?

Receive sense. IJNA.

achorladey:
Not different from the scenario I gave in response to your first scenario I responded to. So answer in line with the first question you have given in your scenario.

If indeed, U read that watchtower article, all the points were well explained.
Shalom.

alBHAGDADI:
I won't respond to any of your comment in which you intentionally mention my Monika again.

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Your lies, your life , your choice.
Facts are still sacred.
Shalom.

Barristter07:

Get your facts right next time before bringing up a useless thread as this based on Silly assumption Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians, if you don't have problem with other people distinguishing themselves with names like Redeemed , Methodist, Anglican, Living Faith , Catholic , You have no right to assume that because of their name , they are not Christians.

A Witness of Jesus Christ is a Witness of Jehovah. Because everything Christ teach is from Jehovah

John 7:16 [i]
"My teaching is not My own, " Jesus replied. "It comes from Him who sent Me.

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I love this comment a million times. All him comrades call themselves "Pentecostal", yet neither Jesus nor his followers did so.
The OP of this thread is too dumb to reason on the scriptures, let alone disguise his bigotry & hypocrisy.

Emusan:
So with this, you agree that JWs are not the ONLY Christian, right?



I know you will come with this silly logic, but why do you people always quote Isaiah 43:10? If it's true that to witness for Jesus is to witness for Jehovah?

Then why is it that Herad of Jesus change to Jehovah witness?



But why didn't you people just use JESUS WITNESS instead of JEHOVAH'S WITNESS?

Did you people hate the name JESUS?

Why did Herad of Jesus Christ change to Jehovah witness, if there's no difference?

But you people can continue to deceive yourselves, whereas deep down you people know you're not Jesus Christ witnesses as found in the Bible.

Emusan, U don't have any issues with members of Winner's Chapel calling themselves "winners", Anglican Church refer to themselves as "Anglicans, Catholic Church faithfuls say they are Catholics etc, yet U have been ranting up & down about JW.
Yet ,U will lie that your Church has no name.
U asked, "why do you quote Isaiah 43:10, if it's true that to witness for Jesus is to witness for Jehovah ?"

Because U refused to believe Jesus words : "Jesus answered, My teaching is not my own. It comes from Him who sent me".John 7:16.

U claimed to be a witness for Jesus, yet U argued against his words. That's HYPOCRISY. Bro, something is wrong with U. It's the twin diseases called bigotry & hypocrisy.

"Physician" heal thyself.

alBHAGDADI:
Those dead sea scrolls which you listed as older and therefore more authentic are actually fraud. Something being older doesn't authenticate it. Satan was older in the Garden of Eden, that deceived Adam and into believing his lies about God.

Now, the NIV, ESV, NKJV, NWT and many new versions were translated from those so-called older manuscript. How come they have this so many errors and kept out so many verses? That's because those verses are not contained in the so-called older manuscripts. If you check those verses very well, they are key words in Christianity. This shows that those so-called older manuscripts are actually targeted at fighting against Christ and his Deity. No wonder JW don't believe Jesus is God. Now Satan is trying to make Christians doubt their faith.

Do you know that some other books were found even before the manuscripts you listed? The Gospel of Barnabas which makes Jesus to conform to the Islamic view was found in the 17th century. Are we to believe that also?
.Your manuscripts were mostly found in the 19th century, whereas the king James version of the Bible was already in existence since the 16th century. Are you now telling me that God who said He will protect His word now allowed His word to be buried for that long and was eventually found in the 19th century? That means He allowed people to be reading a King James Version which is not His word?

No, God's word comes first. It came first before Satan corrupted it I. the Garden of Eden. Same thing is playing out now with these so-called older manuscripts and New World Order Bible Versions.

Fallacious claims of a serial liar.

alBHAGDADI can NEVER prove anything fraudulent. about the Dead Sea scrolls. Show the proof to everybody following this thread. Na one mumu online post of a trinity falsehood peddler. he wan show us.
Lol.

alBHAGDADI:
Keep quiet. The Greek manuscript which you guys translated from is a corrupt book that was found later on. God has said He will protect His word. You don't expect that He will allow a falsehood to come before His true word.

Whenever you want to sound intelligent, you start acting as if you are a Greek. As if we do not know that your NWT was translated from books alleged to be the original Greek and Hebrew texts found centuries after the King James Bible was already in circulation, which your JW also used.

alBHAGDADI, Why U dey lie like this?

U always resort to name calling & passing off falsehood as fact. Yet , no single proof to back up your false allegations.
U get PhD for lie lie. Kai !!!!!


Simply Google "New World Translation (NWT) of the Holy Scriptures " (wikipedia)."


These manuscripts, Masoretic text , Biblia Hebraica , Leningrad Codex, Alexandria Codex , Aramaic Targum and one of the most oldest & accurate of them all , the Dead Sea scroll, were used to produce the NWT .


alBHAGDADI , is your KJV or the textus receptus more accurate than the Dead Sea scroll, Masoretic text or the Leningrad Codex ?

When person dey smoke something, he go fit lie say the Dead Sea scroll , Masoretic text or Alexandria Codex na "corrupted book" . Lol.


As regards the KJV forgery in 1 John 5:7,8, " The evidence both external & internal is decidedly against it's authenticity..... the Comma Johanneum did not appear until the 16th century in any Greek manuscript"

Source: bible.org ("the textual problem in 1 John 5:7,8".

Facts are sacred.

Stop deceiving your self.

This thread has been derailed. The topic is strictly blood transfusions & JW . Anything outside it ,is haram. All of una wey follow derail am. Una no try. But na Seun role na I no like. Him suppose remind us of the rules, "thou shalt not derail a thread". Ekushe ooo !

Emusan:
The problem you have is inability to comprehend the subject matter, this is not an insult.

From the OP the bone of contention is the claim that your organization made....which means even before Christ was born the "Jehovah witness" has been found associated with people which I demand a proof for from the scripture but only for you to be going up and down.

This leads you to even degraded the name CHRISTIAN which even people like Apostle Paul called.

This also leads you to deny the early martyrs of Christ who even laid their own life for the propagation of the word of God and called them a deceiver in Africa.

And many more which I don't want to talk about

Now look at your recent deceitful defend, in other to justify that Russell work can still be justified when fact emerged that Russell mission is to continue to Herad for Christ...you brought another useless excuse of some people died before the name CHRISTIAN was adopted...

My points are:
1. If the name of Jehovah's witness has been around over 2,700 years ago, doesn't this include Russell? Yet you're trying hard to justify that Russell died as a Christian before the name Jehovah's witness was adopted.

2. It's evident even from your responses so far that Bible only recognized the name CHRISTIAN as it solely for those who witnessed for Jesus. That's why even your publications always address the early saint as EARLY CHRISTIANS. Which was captured from the OP.

3. With these evident so far, the question title is this: why the name "Jehovah witness? "

4. from your opening comment you start off by claiming the name is justified even as Jesus himself is a Jehovah witness...but your comments that come later show how confused your are, as you're trying every possible best to defend your organization.

5. Lastly, for you to continue to committ further blunder I'll advice you go back to the opening page, read diligently, your comments and my corresponding response.

NOTE: I know you will still go off point in replying my post.

The issue is your obstinate heart.
Jesus said " my food is to do the will of Him that sent me & to finish his work" John 4:34.

Emusan, U quoted Luke 24:46-48. But what work did Jesus do?
Jesus was "proclaiming the good news of GOD.... The kingdom of God is near. Repent & believe the good news" Mark 1:14,15.
Luke 8:1.
Did he witness for Jehovah? Yes. Is he a JW? Yes.

What is the command for Jesus followers?
Matt 24:14 "This gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the whole world as a testimony (witness) to all nations & then the end will come".

If U heed the command to preach the gospel, U have witnessed for Jehovah.

Jesus said. " I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours, you gave them to me& they have obeyed your word" John 17: 3-7.

mofeoluwa191:
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Pls tell us what U read in each of these bible verses-John 3:16. 6:46,47; 10:34-36. 20:17,30,31. (Ps 82:6 refers to John 10:34-36).
Matt 16:13-17; 1 cor 11:3; 15:24,27.

To gain eternal life ,U must confess Jesus is the son of God, not the other way round.
"if anyone acknowledges that Jesus Christ is the Son of God , God lives in him and he in God"
1John 4:12,14,15

My questions: Does the Bible contradict itself. If no, why do U contradict the words of Jesus Christ?