₦airaland Forum

Amumaigwe:
But the distribution of Buhari's comment on the media about his desire for the total implementation of Sharia in Nigeria (this also happens to align with the vision of Boko Haram), did not stop him from winning presidency. Which is supposed to scandalize Nigerian voters more: Obi associating with the parents of the IPOB leader or Buhari agreeing with Boko Haram ideology?

Let me explain one truth to you:


You don't win or lose an election because of ONLY one factor but because of the sum total of certain actions.

1) The campaign of calumny worked against Buhari and were part of the reasons for his failures in 2003, 2007 and 2011.

2) In 2015 and 2019, the campaign of calumny against Buhari made many people to vote for the PDP, however these times around there were certain political heavy weights in many States who despite these known flaws of Buhari still worked for his success in their various States.

The culmination of all these propelled Buhari into power.

slam7000:
Tinubu wouldn’t do that but then Obi isn’t the only Igbo politician and Obi isn’t a Tinubu. Tinubu might lie, deceive and betray to preserve his political ambitions. For someone like Obi, he is a grown man, responsible for his actions and do not have to be a hypocrite and selfish to achieve his aims. I believe that history will vindicate such people....from his Apga days, he never relented, was consistent and resilient unlike the scenario that plays now where politicians carpet cross, jump ship like the PDP law makers in Imo state.
Obi dumped Apga but he has given us enough to judge his character.

He should be proud to have identified himself with the Kanus.

It’s not all about Aso Rock and presidency. There is life and fulfilment outside politics but lots of politicians in Nigeria won’t survive without politics... you’ll see such individuals displaying exotic cars, wives and children and sub-standard constituency projects.

Do you think Mr Obi isn’t aware of all these before attending the funeral. That’s a man you can trust. That’s a man who won’t betray you.

What brought Tinubu into this matter sir?

ChristianNorth:
You are a Yoruba Christian, no wonder you reason progressively.

Since Friday your Muslim brothers have opened 12 anti-Igbo threads and when we responded with just 1, they took it down.

It has nothing to do with Yorubas (either Christians or Muslims).

PicLtd:
Igbo were building bridges but all they got was insults and ridicule. Post civil war Igbos were blackmailed with a lot of 'do-this-or-you-won't-be-president' rhetorics. With all they've done, Yet what have they gotten in return? Nothing! Nada! except chants of 'Igbos will never be president'.

Now they are tired and are telling to go 'fuxk yourself!', when you are tired of trying to manipulate and blackmail them by dangling your rotten presidential carrots you can take a hike to hell and burn there. Presidency gba kwa oku!

By 1979, just nine years after the civil war, Dr Alex Ekwueme and Hon Umu-Ezeoke became vice president and speaker of the House of Reps respectively.
Ebitu Ukiwe becane Military V. President and many Igbo politicians became Senate President between 1999-2007.

Igbo have fared well in the post civil politics of Nigeria except for the 2015-date when for the first time since 1960, the Igbo political establishment are in opposition to the Federal Government.

ChristianNorth:
I have 2 weeks leave so you will be seeing me often.

We're solidly behind Peter Obi

I am happy that you are solidly behind Mr Peter Obi.

I am also happy that Obi attended the burial NOT necessarily because I support IPOB but because Nigerians need freedom, including the freedom of ANY citizen to aspire to ANY office regardless of his ethnic or religious background.

Actions like this will test and determine the extent to which we want to allow for that freedom.

gwafaeziokwu:
Fear fear people

We all know that you guys dread the day the Igbo elites will demand Biafra. The position of the Igbo masses had been clear from day one,but somehow a badly structured Nigeria continues to lure our politicians with corruption coated carrots.

I truly can't wait for 2023 election. The only barrier holding Biafra is the Igbo politicians. The very day they realize that it is impossible for them to attain the highest position in the land because they are Igbos, then Biafra is here.

Ndigbo will not be the ones to beg Nigeria for presidency.

The arrogant but foolish north and the greedy south West will set this country on its road to doom. 2023 will clear all doubts.

Bros, relax!

Nothing spectacular will happen in 2023. The election will come and go, whosever wins will become the President.

gidgiddy:
The Northerners do not care about who is VP, what they care about is the office of the president. Thats where the juice is.

GEJ's case was different, he was the incumbent president and leader of the ruling party. If GEJ had run for president of Nigeria without being the incumbent, he would have done badly in the North

No Igbo man has any chance of being president. Im an Igbo man but the truth must be told so that some of our people will not be lying to themselves

Never say never.

An Igboman can become the President of Nigeria but not in 2023.

This was how some people were saying Blacks couldn't be president of the United States until Barack Obama came to power.

SlayerForever:
You don't know what I mean by claim? Many of them have been called Fulani erroneously and they don't bother to dispel such misconceptions. Many even ride on it because it is politically favourable. No need mentioning you're from an unknown ethnic group when you can claim Fulani, more favorable as a Muslim with the Dan Fodio connection. Even Bukola Saraki has flaunted a Fulani tag (how true is it he is descended from the Fulani?).

To your second paragraph, so my saying they've claimed Fulani on their rise through the ranks now means claiming Fulani will automatically get you to the seat?! You don't consider political calculations, loyalties etc. Are you thinking that narrowly?

Hmm.

Please show us one Newspaper publication where Bukola Saraki declared 'I am a Fulaniman'

I am very sure Fulani politicians will laugh hysterically at him, if he is too naive to do that.


Those who truly belong to an ethnic group don't need to declare to Nigerians that they belong to the ethnic group.

For instance, you won't see Nwankwo Kanu or Chief Emmanuel Nwanyawu telling whoever cares to listen that they are Igbos or Sir Shina Peters or Femi Otedola organizing press conference to tell the Nation that they are Yorubas.

ChristianNorth:
All these animals from a zoo

Christian North, how far nau. We haven't been seeing you on Nairaland for a while. Hope no probs?


How una see this post?

Okwyjesus:
You know this people are funny with timid comparison.
Reasons. ..
1. Igbos naturally don't stay at home. Even in PH here Igbos make majority of the striving business paying heavy taxes to govt
2. National income like l learnt is not measured by what is produced in geographical area but also what citizen of the state living within and outside the area of concern produced at a given period of time.
3.Before you compare South East to a Kaduna/ Kana lets see the data of the owners of the businesses that gave the state the indices.
4. Talk of finest houses in even rural area then you will know lgbos man got the cash.

Aku ruo uno philosophy is a trending phrase in contemporary lgboland. With Nnewi taking modern lead. Let all lgbos think in that direction biko. lnvest at home, build at home.

You are wrong sir.

The GDP is a universally acceptable measure of economic activities. It encapsulate all the economic activities taking place with a defined territory (States or Geopolitical zones in this discussion) irrespective of the ethnic backgrounds of those performing the economic activities.

LadyExcellency:
Tell me any of those States that was bomb to oblivion 50 years ago in a civil war?

When in comparison use index and mean and not total population.

We don't compare between Isreal and Egypt in terms of development. Israel is a developed world, Egypt is not but too populous

Point of correction sir, no State/city in Nigeria was bombed into Oblivion during the civil war or at any time .

TUANKU:
Apart from Lagos, Abuja and maybe Rivers, no other state in Nigeria is more developed than Kano but most ignorant tools from the south who barely travel will think otherwise.

The Human Development Index (HDI) developed by the United Nations Development Program (UNDP) is a reliable measure of development.

Based on the HDI , Kano is number 30, out of 36 States.

toolovely:
And you forgot that Igbos are included in the Numbers you mentioned.

Tell your people to allow for state of origin and tribe in our census to know the number of people that make up each state

Igbos, Ijaws, Efik, Igala, Ebira, Fulanis and Edo's are also included in those States.

ezenwajosh:
Yea they are patronising him except HOW?

Only very few private car owners buy Innoson vehicles. They sell most of their vehicles to Government , especially the FG owned companies/agencies like the Nigeria Police, FRSC, Federal universities etc.
This is one of the reasons Innoson hasn't grown greatly...they don't target the General population to sell their vehicles but rely on Government patronage.

NwaliE01:
Okay let me school you here to clear your doubts.
Igbos are entrepreneurs and are found in every facets of business enterprise such as estate management. More than half of shops in all the Northern markets are owned by the Igbos and that's why you guys believe Igbos like business.
Igbos are into Educational sector as well; majority of private schools in the North are own and sometimes managed by the Igbos.
Igbos are also in power sector. The number one(MAJOR) dealer in Nocaco wires is an Igbo man(TONEX)
Igbos have done so much for this country only that you people are rejecting your this fact.

You aren't answering the questions posed by the OP.

NwaliE01:
As at today, there is no statistics measuring numbers of educated people in any part of the country.
The reason is that there is no data base grouping Nigerians either in diaspora or at home according to their tribe in educational system.
Nigerians are known migrants,
I don't see the importance of this comparison in the first place.

NBS have database of every State in Nigeria and these include the percentages of the State's population that are educated.

makydebbie:
In the Bible sis? In the Bible?

During the Biblical times, people have not discovered 'giving and receiving' Head.

atasteve:
A chicken in Nigeria can't become an eagle abroad.
Take time to develop yourself and you will see that what doesn't come from above (God) CANNOT come from abroad!
Wealth flows in the direction of those that solve other people's problems.

This is the first highly inspirational comment I am reading on this thread.



God bless Atasteve for writing this post.

SlayerForever:
But most will still go on to claim the "Hausa/Fulani" identity which helps to perpetuate the claim by the government that the "Hausa/Fulani" is the most populous ethnic group in Nigeria which is grossly inaccurate.

What exactly do you mean by 'claim the Hausa-Fulani identity'?

Please name three politicians who rose to power just by claiming Hausa-Fulani identities?

SlayerForever:
The thread on front page "True Ethnic Origins of Past Head of States in Nigeria" shows that indeed the Hausa/Fulani ethnicities are not as populous as majority of Nigerians think. The situation we have in the North is such that every politician who hopes to climb the political ladder adopts the Hausa/Fulani identity though in truth they are/were never Hausa/Fulani, an interesting case being Atiku Abubakar.

If a proper census is conducted in Nigeria the truth is that many will come to discover the Hausa/Fulani are no where near the numbers they project, the Fulani are particularly a small ethnic group . At the very most the Hausa/Fulani together will take up 3 states across the North.

As a single standalone ethnicity the Hausa/Fulani are not the most populous ethnicity by a distance.

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In the Core North or more correctly, in the areas that made up the Old Sokoto Caliphate, the Islamic identity supercede ethnic identity.

You can climb up the political ladder if you are a Muslim regardless of your ethnic backgrounds.

There are several political parties in Nigeria. IPOB members can register en mass for anyone of them and IPOB can sponsor several candidates for elective posts on such parties plateforms.

Gnaeusmagnus:
1,Unfortunately, IPOB cannot be a political party as the Constitution does not allow secessionist parties

2.Who told you that other regions would vote down a bill for referendum? Don't make assumptions.

3.Again, the NA cannot grant a referendum unless the constitution is amended to allow for the NA to consider a referendum. Amending the constitution requires 2/3 vote in all state assemblies plus 2/3 vote at the National Assembly and Senate.

gidgiddy:
Some people say that IPOB should turn it self into a political party, win elective positions in the upper and lower house, then sponsor a bill for referendum. This would have been an ideal thing to in a sane society

Unfortunately, Nigeria is not an ideal place and is far from being sane.

Even if IPOB became a political party, managed to win every elective position in the SE/SS, moved a bill for referendum at the national assembly, the other 4 zones will vote down the bill and all that effort would be for nothing.

The only way IPOB can get a referendum is to keep up their agitation until the National assembly moves a motion to grant referendum. IPOB's agitation was was starting to bear fruit around the time they were proscribed, even Arewa youths had started to urge the FG to help them get referendum

It wont be easy but I know that two things will happen in the next 5 years. Nigeria will collapse and Biafra will be free or a referendum will be granted. Either way, Biafra inevitable and it will require no war

You just postulated that

1) It will not be possible for IPOB to successfully push for a referendum bill if they win legislative seated in the SE/SS.

2) However you also postulated that it will be possible for IPOB to mount pressure on the NASS to pass a referendum bill without being part of the NASS.

How contradictory!

Even as members representing SE/SS, you can't do it. Is it when you are total outsiders that the NASS will listen to you and bow to your pressure?

agboemma35:
Please reasonable answers and explanation cuz we see a strong agitation that biafra Will come. But how. Is it through war.. Which some say isn't the case. So how does he intend to make it happen

They will start abusing/cursing you soon.

Turantula:
He is very consistent, how can you justify the verdict Sharia justice tanko gave in Imo state.
Fear allah (SWAT) nah!

All the six judges unanimously gave the Judgement in the Imo State case and I think similar thing happened in Bayelsa State.
A single judge can't make a supreme Court judgement.

Bonessaw:
Don’t insult Igbos with a Fulani. The Ofeke is a Fulani and in a public forum as this mind how you allot tribes to every being.

Hi bro,

Although I am not interested in the Tribalism that have come defined Nairaland lately, I am interested in the team 'Ofeke'.

Is it an Igbo term or just a pidgin term?

My late father (a conservative Yorubaman) used to use that term with slight change in pronouciation by replacing the 'K' with 'g' to mean 'failure or fake'

victorian:
Story! Tell that to the birds!

That does not justify the killing of men or pouring hot water on them.

It's pure evil!

Any woman who tries such with my bro, assuming he's alive. She will receive same hot water on her body, from the head down to her boob's and stomach!

I won't even spare her! She will wish she was never married to him in the first place. WTF! My dad married 5 wives! And none of his wives killed or disfigured his body! He lived long and well. Catered for everyone and every wives! Why kill or destroy men. If u can't take the heat, then don't marry!

Staying married is not byforce!

Then back to me, if my man cheats on me. Newsflash! I won't kill him, I won't disfigure him, and I will not fucvkin leave! Orelse my life and sanity is at stake in the marriage , that's when I will divorce!

You are so evil! God forbid!

Most Nigerians born before 1980 were from polygamous families or at least have step Brothers/sisters and domestic violence weren't as high as this.

Offpoint:
She did the right thing and I encourage every woman out there whose isn't cheating on her husband to treat them this way if their husbands dįck can't stay home.

If you guys treat men this way, they'll think twice before considering cheating.

Don't kill them, just give them scar they'll live to regret forever.

I can't be your babies factory, after 4 you're getting some sluť a phone and banging her behind my back, I'll chop off your díck while you're asleep.

like I've always said: If a girlfriend cheats on me, I'll gentlemanly walk out of the relationship. But if a wife should make the mistake of banging another man, there's no such thing as FORGIVENESS. I'll carve out your vagina and boobs.
I'm an extremely loyal dude once in a relationship and if my loyalty is betrayed... I become a soulless beast.

This is very wrong. You shouldn't be encouraging domestic violence.


The wife should be arrested for attempted murder and spend the rest of her life in prison.

BitCraftman:
What aspect should he update again.

Reduce Tribalism on Nairaland from the present level of 90% to at least 15% (it may be difficult to eradicate it 100% because most Nigerians have residual tribalistic mindset).

MetaPhysical:
There is nothing in English called fulbe or in french called puular. Where did English and French get the terms? They heard it locally. There was no enlish speaking and french speaking countries when europeans colonized west africa. So people had lands and separated by states. Those states were delineated by ethnicity. Peul ethnic group did not exist under fulani nor puular....each was distinct.

These are all variants of the many spellings used to refer to the Fula People by the neighbours, hosts and colonial Masters.

So many local names were anglicized by the British colonial Masters e.g

MetaPhysical:
There is nothing in English called fulbe or in french called puular. Where did English and French get the terms? They heard it locally. There was no enlish speaking and french speaking countries when europeans colonized west africa. So people had lands and separated by states. Those states were delineated by ethnicity. Peul ethnic group did not exist under fulani nor puular....each was distinct.

Dosunmu=> Docemo

Igbobunazor=> Ibusa

MetaPhysical:
The peul, the fulbe, the fulani...these were at one time thought to be one homogeneous people. New findings dispute that and actually confirm they are not one and same.

Calling peul, fulbe and fulani one people is like saying Kanuri, Darfur, Shuwa are all one people, which is inaccurate....even though Kanuri, Darfur and Shuwa understand one another when speaking.

These names are the names by which their neighbors/hosts/colonial Masters in different countries call them. They refer to the same pan ethnic group.

Hausa call them Fulanis.

British=> Fulbe

French=> Puular