₦airaland Forum

Islam doesn't mean peace but SUBMISSION.

Dpharisee:
Show love to the Muslims as a good Christian, Christianity means LOVE, Islam means PEACE even though some of the adherents don't keep to it

Why do you think Archeological excarvation must be done by Government?


Archeological societies, Departments of Archeology in many Universities and even private citizens like you can dig up those places.

Shiver99:
Op’s post while somewhat inaccurate and rather speculative, hits home on why Northern igboland, especially Anambra, Enugu should be excavated as a matter of urgency. There is evidence of an ancient civilisation that according to historians that could date back to 3000bc, where the north-south migration would have began.

It speaks to the corruption and lackadaisical attitude of Nigeria, that one of the oldest iron smelting sites in the world was found in south east Nigeria and no intense follow-up archaeology work was done.

Fortunately, In Biafra, more work will be done to uncover Igbo history, but I really wish Igbo development unions take it more seriously.

The first picture was that of the Late Oba of Lagos, Oba Adeniji Adele welcoming the Queen to Nigeria in 1956.








#From a simple review of your posts on Nairaland, you spend considerable amount
of time whipping up sentiments against Non-Igbo Nigerians especially the Yoruba people.

This is NOT good for your mental state.

goodnessme1:
~Hon Senator Enyinnaya
Abaribe was right after all.
The Igbo's are not digital" We
don't bow to any mortal man
except our(Chi) GOD in capital
latters......
A picture when queen
Elizabeth visited Nigeria in
1954 is a clear indication.

Gwazia ndi yard unu.

Alternatives like what sir?

Correcto:
What about creating alternatives for them?

Where will their employers get other people to replace them? Won't these replacements be also affected by this ban?





This may be a blessing in disguise for Lagos in the long run.

africanmerlin:
Seriously you need a brain reset. Obviously you don't work, or you have a means of transport. Which government in the world enacts policies without providing alternatives. A lot of people will lose their jobs b4 month end due to lateness.

An average Nigerian thinks Government has inexhaustible funds and can simply provide employment for anyone and everyone.

Jossibest:
Most of this people have wife and children to feed,payin of rent and schools.
Goverment could have provide them job before they stop them.
Were will they get the job to take care of their responsibility?

Please leave Lagos State with your Keke and move to Oshogbo NOW.

Start your Keke Operation by taking passengers from Igbonna market to Oke onitea/Ile Dande from Tommorow and be contributing 40% of your daily sales to 'Ajo'.





















You can thank me later when you buy another new Keke by the peak of the raining season.

BabyApple:
I work as a tricycle rider. We trekked from Oyingbo to Ikeja to protest .. We were not attended to. Sanwo olu don finish me

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But they can relocate to Abeokuta, Ijebu-Ode,Benin City, Onitsha, Ibadan, Enugu and P/Harcourt.

Must everybody live or do business in Lagos?

Kendumazy:
I really feel for the investors of OPAY AND GOKADA. A wrong investment this would be for them and this sends a wrong signal to foreign investors.

Nairaland is a faceless forum. Some guys that haven't even bought a plot of land will be giving expert opinions on massive construction contracts.



I just completed a personal housing project in my hometown in Osun State.

I deeply regretted the parts that I gave to local artisans to do.

One guy collected my money for digging soakaway pit, dug like 1.5 meters and disappeared.

Even in my hometown, I had to go to Sabo and recruited Ayuba Takai and Danladi (both from Kano State) to complete the digging of soak away and waste pits. Many manual jobs were reassigned to these Hausa labourers.

They don't resume for work until around 10:00 am and they like to close by 5:00pm and will be expecting daily payment.

Some days, they may not even come giving silly excuses that they went for chieftaincy meetings or there were ceremonies in town for them to attend.

They will force you to work at their own pace (slow and more expensive) because they are in their own town, they are never in a hurry to meet any target.
They don't live in rented apartments, their foods are mostly sourced locally and their costs of living is very low.

Above all, they are also part-time farmers. They will use your time to go to farms and only come for your work at THEIR convinient time.

GreenArrow1:
So, apart from ranting on Nairaland where No One in a position to properly address your current misgivings is reading what you are saying, what are you gonna do about it? Just remaining a little part of the wheel in the e-machine promoting online hate in the country? You think contracts like these are awarded at traditional council meetings?

I'm currently executing a federal government contract in the middle belt, which (in your own words have been awarded to a Yoruba firm). I have never come online to come and cry that my parent contracting firm are not from the middle belt.
Federal government contracts are bid for and awarded accordingly at Abuja and not based on tribe but on competency and the Nigerian factor of kick-backs. I have a few colleagues of Eastern and Southern extraction who work for bosses of same extraction that have or are currently executing projects in different parts of the country.
Lastly, yes, everyone uses abokis for construction work. No vex, they are ready and willing to work for reasonable pay with less qualms.
It's always better to use imported Labour for big projects in this country where people like you are ever ready to play the "na my place be this" card. Better for the contractor, better for project delivery, better for the client.
Drink some water.

The contract was awarded in Abuja. Many contractors bidded for it.

Most times, people from diverse ethnic groups collaborate to float or manage big companies like this to increase their national appeal.

The chairman of that construction company may be Tunde Folawiyo, Terry Wayas, Elisha Abbo, Emeka Offor or Sir Donald Abang.


#The main problem I have with this kind of issues is the centralization of the Nigerian political structure.


In true federalism, the FG has no business in awarding contracts or running universities. That contract could have been awarded by the Governing council of UNN.

Why should someone in Faraway Abuja be awarding contracts for projects in Ile-Ife, Ijebu-Ode, Nsukka or Birnin Kebbi?

mynaijaforumcom:
Again, it doesn't have to be Igbos. But let us keep in Mind that Igbos, people in Benue, Edo and all the closer locations are Nigerians as well. Not to mention that the project does not even have to be executed by a Nigerian company.

What about bringing Bricklayers and Tilers from Cotonou to Abuja, Lokoja, Benin or Onitsha?

mynaijaforumcom:
Might be. But I cannot quite see bringing people from Kano to carry blocks as a cost saving move.

If you were well brought up, you should know that you can pass your comments without insulting those whose opinions differ from yours.




What is prayer? Prayer is individuals' communications with deities.
Whosever we perceive that can lead prayers varies from individuals to individuals and so many people don't even pray at all.


There's no national consensus on who should or can lead prayers.


This kind of discussion on 'who lead prayers' is an idle talk.

AgentNairaland:
You Be PUMA i.e "Oya" You Suppose To Ask "Se Oro Ku Ti O Le Da Si" You Just Jumped Into The Conversation.. Oponu Arindin

The Discussion Is Your Co Slaves From Northern Nigeria Will Never Allow You Slaves From Yoruba Land To Lead Them In Asolat Because To Them You're Kafir And Pencil In There Hand.. Biko

Religion is personal business, how is the ethnic group of those who can lead prayers in certain mosques the problems of Nigeria?


Is that the reason pipe borne water is not available in your State?
Is this the reason street lights, tarred roads with paved pedestrian walkways and effective waste disposal are not available in most parts of your State?

AgentNairaland:
So Hausa Muslims will allow u to lead them during asolat abi, you dey lie too much

You are just throwing tantrums like a kid displaying unnecessary helpness and hopelessness.

Why crying about the ways some peoples you hate so much live their lives and practice their religion?

Why not affect your people, impact on your generation and the country at large?

Why are you at the receiving end, why not be the people that will affect others?

12Monkeys:
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At least you did not attempt to deny your slavish disposition to Sokoto.

FYI, Yaribanza Muslim foolishness affects us as long as we are in this one nijeriya cesspit.

You think when we go our separate ways we will give a FCK about your ass licking?

Yaribanza Muslim slave to Sawkata.

And how is that your problem in 2020?


Instead of you to change for better by changing the ways you think so that you can make impacts in life, you are still reasoning like kids by judging millions of people most of whom you have met solely by the tribe they come from.


Grow up kid, this is the 21st century! Tribalism is a primitive approach to the issues of life.

In every race, ethnic group and tribes, they are people with brilliant ideas that can get the work done, be of help to you and the society at large.

12Monkeys:
The Yoruba Moslem is a walking, talking, breathing meme that symbolizes servitude to Sokoto et alia Afonja.

Is this an abuse or insult or what exactly?

Trump2020:
Yoruba Moslem

Religion of Peace keh

What an irony!


I love many muslims (some are particularly dear to my heart) and some members of my family are muslims but I know there many things about the religion that promote violence.

1) The inability of many Muslims to accept that the Prophet Muhammad, though a messenger of Allah but was a MAN, who like all other morning mortals made errors, had his own limitations and his actions were largely influenced by the prevailing Arab culture in the 7th century Arabia.

2) That some parts of the Holy Quaran and/or Hadith's were just opinions/personal views of the Prophet and these may had acceptability in the Prophet's 7th century Arab society but these may not have universal and/eternal applications.

Olameen1713:
I will advice you stop spreading fake propaganda against Islam cos people who were before you have done it but didn't work. It won't work now and it will never work. Islam is synonymous with peace. You said an average muslim is ready to kill? I am a Muslim for God sake and I've never fought anyone in my life with my bear fists not to talk of thinking about picking up arms. Anybody that kills a soul is a terrorist regardless of the religous affiliation such person belongs to. Please let's join hands to condemn terrorism instead of using it as a tool to spread propaganda. Islam is my religion and I stand for peace always.

1)The Sultan is NOT the head of all the Muslims in Nigeria.

2) There is NO one central head of ALL the muslims in Nigeria

3) The Sultan is the President of the Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs which is a Sunni Muslim voluntary group of Nigerian Muslims whose membership cut accross all ethnic groups in Nigeria, including Igbo, Ijaw, Efik, Hausa, Nupe, Fulani, Yoruba , Kanuri etc.

dionma:
Op is spreading misinformation. There is nothing like the sultan being head of Muslims in Nigeria in the Constitution. If you argue otherwise, what section are you referring to.

The Alaafin is a traditional title and NOT a religious title.

Any prince from the different branches of the Oranmiyan royal dynasty can become an Alaafin regardless of his religious identity.

Before the acsension of Alaafin Lawani Agogooja in 1900, all the previous Alaafin were traditionalists (they were neither christians nor Muslims but practiced African Traditional Religion).

Stop poking your nose into issues that you don't understand and/or doesn'tn concern you.



The Muslims can chose whosoever they like as their level.

Trump2020:
It is so pathetic seeing Yoruba Moslems defending this bulkshitt

The Alafin of Oyo is a Moslem but our sophisticated slaves don't have the balls to pull their mouths from the almajiri sultan to make the Alafin their spiritual leader

Where did you get this funny idea that crude oil are brought to the ports ,loaded into ships are exported?


The offshore oil rigs have their own terminals far into the ocean, where special vessels are loaded with crude oil

codemaniacs:
if there were pirates there, they would have been attacking, robbing e.t.c villages and people living close to the ocean..

they dock in Lagos because its cheaper and its meant for importing, the other ports are functioning but they are meant for exporting crude oil. the ports in the east makes almost the same revenue as Lagos ports.

Dr Alex Ekwueme (and NOT the Yorubas or Hausa-Fulani ) during the 1995 constitutional conference introduced the concept of the 6- Geopolitical zones as plateform for power rotation.

franchasng:
most Yorubas are educated illiterates.


Northeast Nigeria is not homogeneously Fulani region, there are Fulani, Nupe, Kanuri, Bororo, etc but Yorubas are cool with it.

Middlebelt comprises of Idoma, Birom, Tiv, Yoruba, etc tribes and Yorubas are cool with it.

Eastern Nigeria was made up of Igbo, Ijaw, Urhobo, Calabari, Eket, Uron, Efik, Ibibio, Ndoki, Anioma, etc tribes but envy couldn't allow Yorubas and their Hausa-Fulani masters so they had to politically carve out Southsouth to spite Igbos yet they deny being envious and hateful of progressive Igbos and instead claim to be hypocritical progressives, jokers

So Yoruba civil servants in NPA prevented the President and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces from acting and reviving ports in his zone?

dandollaz:
GEJ started dredging the port but yorubas that control the NPA in Lagos insist and subotage the effects he made because of ononile or whatever they call it.

Contrary to what's being portrayed on Nairaland, most Nigerians (including the Igbos ) are poor and eke out living , looking for what to eat daily.

SangoOlukosoOba:
Online you will only say that. You dare not say it outside here.

Your brothers are paying heavy dues daily to their host and you are here boasting about a No man's land.

Better not go say it where you will be lynched.


It's only Lagos you have been to and why you are oinking loud. Go to the remote villages of Ijebu, your brothers and sisters are there selling food stuff, Egusi, Ugu and substandard drugs.

You have not travelled, your lots are littered all over the West seeking greener pastures.

Not necessarily sir,


There are thousands of vehicles, Textile materials, electronics, Petroleum products etc that are imported into this country and meant for the S/South and S/East.

SangoOlukosoOba:
Keep deceiving yourself.

Like you have the market there when more than half of your population is dispersed across the West.

Which buisnessman will divert his cargo to the East knowing he will have to hualage it to the West.

It's 1+1. Not difficult to phantom.

They will rather still pay higher to bring there cargos to the West

Point of correction, the FG and not Lagos State get taxes from the ports.



If these Eastern ports become fully operational, it will be a great relief for Lagos because it will help in reducing the negative effects of mass influx of people to the State.

President2031:
Thank you for your understanding and please pass the information to other of your Igbo brothers.

We Niger deltans are happy that the Port will be of advantage to the South South and South East.

It will help the South South generate more revenue and employment for us while the Igbo importers take advantage of the easy import instead of going to lagos while they pay their tax.

Ex President Jonathan has concessioned the ports to the private sector for efficient management,just like PHCN was handed over the private sector.



It's these concessionaires that determine charges in their ports and these varies from ports to ports.

olisaEze:
Nice one from the beautiful Hadiza Bala. It’s now over to the governors of those states to strive for world class facilities and roads so they can attract more shippers to their ports. The FG should also think of harmonizing the shipping tariffs to make them as competitive as the Lagos ports.

PS: Reading comments here, I wonder how everything gets turned into tribal mudslinging and bashing. It’s like some people can’t see beyond their local upbringing? Na waoh!

Let me tell you one thing,it will be too simplistic to assume that ALL Non-Igbo politicians will withdraw from the race because some people are talking about Igbo Presidency.


Who will ban Non-Igbo politicians from picking presidential forms of their parties?

It will be best to convince the top hierrachies of the APC and PDP to vote for Igbo candidates during the presidential primaries rather than wishing that ONLY Igbos should contest.

DMerciful:
The North does not vote for BEST, they vote for religion! Obj did not even play any politics, he was broke out of prison. His own people did not vote for him in the general elections and likely even in the primaries. The North believes an Igbo president might have restructuring or secessionist agenda hence deliberately sidelining Igbos. Immediately Yorubas mentioned Amotekun, North started mentioning what Igbos must do to have presidency, something that was a taboo to mention like a year ago

I am a realist. The real people that can grant this Igbo presidency clamour are not the people on Nairaland but the top hierrachies of the APC and PDP. These are the people that can convince their party delegates to vote for Igbo candidates during the Presidential primaries.

Any other way is like talking to the wrong people and asking them for what they don't have.

DMerciful:
Read comments and see how people hate the Igbos but are at the forefront of preventing Biafra actualization. In other words, they want Igbos to remain so they can continue their marginalization. I wonder why hatred for the Igbos is the single factor uniting Nigeria!

The most ridiculous claim by this MURIC man, Prof Ishaq Akintola is that Amotekun ,the Yoruba native name for Leopard has Christian colouration because a verse in the Biblical book of Jeremiah talk about Leopards guarding a city!






My question for Ishaq Akintola:

1) Was the Bible originally written in Yoruba language?

2) Does the fact that an animal is mentioned in the Bible, Yorubas can't use the native name again?

Angelique Kidjo has been winning Grammy Awards for long.

In the late 1990s, her songs always hit the radio waves all over Africa.

Tookool:
She felt Burna boy was gonna win, hence didn't even prepare her speech .....see as she dey tutter

We are saying almost the same thing.

1) Most of the masses aren't wise like the political elites. As a matter of fact, if the Nigerian masses are as wise as the political elites, many things will not happen in Nigeria.

2) Most of the people on Nairaland are educated and are young elites on their own.

Road side Mechanics, Vulcanizers, Brothel based prostitutes, Mai Suya, Motor park touts, most primary school teachers, most tailors, Commercial drivers, Fulaniherdsmen, abbatours workers, Mama put operators, Agbo sellers, Okrika traders,most petrol attendants, ALL the Almajiris and indeed majority of the masses aren't on Nairaland or any social media.


These group of people are in the majority in this country and unfortunately, Nigeria doesn't mean anything to them.

They form their opinions about Nigeria and other tribes largely based on what the educated elites pass onto them.

Because they are the majority and are poor, they interract with each regularly irrespective of tribal differences if it will ensure their survival and happiness.

For instance if Adamu the Almajiri in Bauchi transform to become a successful Mai Suya in Yenegoa with enough cash, he can rent a stall with his Ijaw hosts and if he is streetwise, he can impregnate Ada, the daughter of Mrs Okoro who is selling peppersoup beside his Suya joint.

Cherez:
If a politician can sway my vote with tribal sentiments then I was never liberal.
Bro, you assume this and hardly can site real life situations of the pregnancy by Okada people pikin; most Nigerians are gravely tribalistic.
Just go through this page and you can imagine that hardly do people make statements based on reasoning but premised on tribalism.
I will not lie, the virus caught me sometimes but I know I love everyone and I have employed more people from other tribes into my company just to build trust and love.
I have never voted on tribal sentiments though my vote for GEJ in 2011 was on sentiment as I felt the North was not being fair to him but it wasn't tribalistic as he was not from my tribe.
I voted PMB in 2015 but stayed away from voting in 2019.
And if APC presents PYO, I will vote for him, if not I dey my house.

The Amotekun is not about religion and it doesn't target any Tribe.


Where was the Constitution and the Security forces when the world's fourth most dangerous terrorist organization, the Fulaniherdsmen unleashed terror on the People of Benue State? Where why YOU where Miyethi Allah was threatening the Government of Ekiti State under Gov Ayo Fayose for making laws that outlaw open grazing?

Why didn't hear your voice whenever ,gunmen who until recently laid seige on the highways of the S/West shoot and kill people in this region.

Where were you and why didn't you tell us your religion when the National Security Adviser blamed (the State Government for enacting anti- open grazing laws ) as the cause of Herdsmen massacres of the helpless citizens and Miyetti Allah came on air to justified the massacres?

You must think the Nigerian security forces are providing maximum security to the citizens as Bandits took over Zamfara State, sacking entire villages.

The whole of Oke-Ogun had become very dangerous place to travel because gun men are in the bushes.


When does it becomes a crime to raise vigilante to protect communities?

GoTV:
As a born again Christian who is meant to speak the truth at all times, i think this amoketun issue is being hypocritically blown out of proportion to expand hatred for other tribes especially the Fulanis. Why must we Christians be the brain behind the vast support for Amotekun when the Nigerian constitution is clear about the roles of the armed forces and police in the security of the country? Why must we form an ethnic militia to target fellow Nigerians when the constitution guarantees freedom of movement and doing business nationwide as long as we are Nigerians? What we fail to realize is that the south east cheering on Amotekun sees its as a synonym for their biafra agitations and they will rather support anything that will disband the relative peace and unity of Nigeria. The IPOB sympathizers will be the one to cry wolf when Amotekun starts targeting their tribesmen who commits various crimes in the south west. MURIC recently condemned the killing of a CAN pastor and sympathized with we Christians, how many Christians will condemn the killing of an imam or Muslims? Instead we rejoice when tragedy strikes them forgetting we are all humans before religion. Instead of emulating our Muslim brothers who have remained silent on this issue of Amotekun, we Christians are disturbing the cyberspace with hypocritical comments. Amotekun will never see the light of the day as long as we remain one Nigeria. It's a bad policy and a tribalistic security outfit aimed at persecuting other Nigerians. On behalf of we Christians, i condemn Amotekun. Let's learn to live in peace and harmony