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I am still wondering how a whole Nazi Nnamdi KANU agreed to the conditions set by the Zoo.
Oh boy, fear the Zoo.

NgeneUkwenu:
The remaining Conditions:


Kanu Must Not Be Seen In A Gathering Of 10 People

Kanu Must Not Grant Any Interview.

Kanu Must Not Travel Outside The Country.

Kanu Must Be Filing His Medical Status Weekly To The Zoo Government.

Kanu Must Not Appear In any other court While his trial lasts...


In fact, Buhari has succeeded in Chaining Kanu to the Zoo Cage....


Like Uwazuruike, Like Nnamdi Cownu....

Don't even Joke with the Zoo Government!

Where did you do your epidemiological investigation of penis captivitus to make such conclusions?
1) Its under reported.
2) Its due to an extreme form of vaginimus which is commoner among older females (marriagable age) than younger females.
3)In boyfriend-girlfriend relationship , the girls are young and every thing that makes a girl female is at its peak between 18-23 years.
4) It's fairly common among certain animals like dogs.

realpoacher:
You are a joke, science say that it is rare occurrence yet a regular occurrence in Africa. Have you asked yourself why?.. Have also asked yourself why it's always common adulterers and not fornicators (boyfriend/girlfriend relationship), or doesn't occur between husband and wife? Why does it always have to be between cheaters?.... My is simply juju what the whites call voodoo... Go figure

You are very correct. That fact that they were having an illicit sex aggravated their fears, giving it spiritual interpretation.
If they had stayed there together for about an hour, enduring the pain and guilt, the vaginal muscles will relax on its own, allowing the man to put out his penis.

neocortex:
Don't be fooled, this is neither charm nor spiritual,
it is purely a medical condition called Pen.is captivus.

Since the time I saw his list till now, I am still laughing.
The guy is a good comedian.

greatgod2012:
You mean Jumoke Orisaguna, the ex-bread seller or another jumoke




Thank you for making me laugh so loud this evening, you're a very good comedian, even basketmouth is still a learner where you are!

Came from where?

FKO81:
These Containers came through Onitsha river port

You don't sound intelligent at all. . .Economy of a Nation is not fixed,it changes with time.
To assume that if Nigeria disintegrate with Niger delta oil and Igbos being in another country mean,the Southwest won't thrive economically shows a shallow understanding of economy.
1) Human resources is superior to mineral resources as factors of economic growth.
2) The Southwest even have oil and solid minerals in abundance quantities.
3) With good leadership,every state in Nigeria can stand on itsown and excell.

ChrisOD:
Put the GDP of all the SW states together and divide it by the population of Yorubas and see if you even reach Rwanda sef for GDP per capita. When oil go and Igbos go, then GDP of SW go drop more. Same with other regions.

This your assertion is very wrong because economic activities are defined with respect to a territory and not based on ancestries of the economic actors.
This is why the GDP of China is based on economic activities within China despite the fact that US companies like Apple and HP and S/Korean companies like LG and Samsung contribute greatly to the GDP.

homerac7:
@ OP,

voodoo economists and statisticians like you must be reined-in in a straight jacket and kept in a whitewashed steel door fitted room. reason is because mis-tailored statistics bandied around like you just did with NO interpretation can cause incalculable damages beyond what your puny mind can fathom.

THE LESSON:

Please and please, the value of any (and every) statistics is in its INTERPRETATION - which your spurious conjecture lacks. Any number is plain useless without an interpretation, same with our statistics. Only mischievous or dangerously ignorant people play with numbers in the ways you just did. But if you still think you are neither as described, onus is on you to INTERPRET your figures based on facts.

TO ALL:

Please ignore this babalawo figures this guy is throwing around. It is a half-truth that are meant to capture the fancy of simple minds. Let him show us the breakdown of taxpayers along their regions of origin irrespective of places where they are living or working, and such other vital info that will help to explain the gaping imbalance in his figures. Didn't Dangote, Ishiaka Rabiu, Dantata & Sons, and many other big time importers and industrialists contribute to duties and taxes collected from south west? what about the yam sellers, onion sellers and other northern businesses that contributed to the revenue of their "host states"? what about countless Emeka chemist stores, Chukudi auto parts, Chigozie supermarket and cosmetics store, and Madam Ngozi isi-ewu joints contributing all over the nation? ...CAVEAT EMPTOR !!!

Laugh wan tear my belle o.

originals1:
How to cook YORUBA SOUP:
1. Add water
2. Add red oil
3. Stir with plank or firewood
4. Add strange leaves
5. Add pepper
6. Add pepper again
7. More pepper
8. My friend, add more pepper.
10. Stir again, add local salt, add more pepper.
11. Use wrapper from the house to put down the pot
12. Add more pepper.
Am sure some of dem are so angry now dat dey didn't even notice I omitted number 9

The Tribalist, nobody will suffer sir. Wealth creation is based on principles that transcend borders and it is an art ,not known by all.If most nigerians are given #1billion today, in five years time, they won't worth #5million again because they aren't grounded in the art of wealth creation.

Your assertion is very wrong. When you get to know successful business men is not actually when they started business.

Although, these people may be corrupt but corruption alone can't sustain your business.... Many Nigerians may be more corrupt than these yet they can't manage a Billion naira worth of investment.

drake2000x:
Notice that all yorubaa on the list made their money from Niger Delta oil. I have been saying this, separate Nigeria, Yorubaas will suffer!

Please stop this childish emotional rantings. Efik, Ibibio, Annang, Anioma, Oron, Ogba, Ijaw, Ekpeye,Edos and other Nigerians also fought in the war and also bear the brunt of the war but I don't see or hear them crying every now and then that other Nigerians thought they were finished after the war neither do they inundate the cyber space, print and electronic media with stories of persecution on account of the war.
Please grow up and move on.

madenigga:
So many times igbos have prooved every one wrong, igbos lost d war and most people thought they were down wud never rise, but they rose so much that they became the subject of envy of there hosts e.g Yoruba.
Igbo's people say they dont go to school but the statistics say other wise.
The day Nigeria stops importation, u people wud think that it is finished, but don't be surprised if every 2 by 2 shop you see in the east becomes a factory.
Most of you think igbos are fools, that there land they leave it, that other Nigerians don't own properties there but igbos alone do.
Igbos naturally like assets, when they are done buying most of the properties in the choice areas in Nigeria and rented them out, after making most of u tenant's in your own land's, when u guys now come to igbo land, u guys wud still be there tenants.

Why must you turn this to a YorubaVs Igbo tribal contest? The guy is not a Yoruba man and he never mentioned Igbo (Not exactly the same as south east) in his post.

chemystery:
Yes, a hardworking man does not stay at home. His statistics counts at his place of work.

Stop beating your chest over statistical figures that constitutes over 50% of foreigners.

Everyone knows that for every 1 Yoruba man in SE, there are 10,000 Igbo men in SW.

Respect to all hardworking Igbos all over the world.

This post clearly illustrate your shallow understanding of the history and Geography of Lagos.
1) One can infer from your post that you assume Colony of Lagos= Lagos, The Federal Capital=Lagos State but this is a big fallacy.
2) The old Federal Capital only include the present day Lagos Island, Lagos Mainland, Apapa, Eti-Osa and some parts of Surulere LGAs while the rest were part of Western Region, then later Lagos State.
3) Places like Ikeja, Shomolu, Oshodi-Isola, Ojoo, Agege, Alimosho, Mushin and other LGA were never part of the old Federal Capita.
4)The Colonial masters were neither interested in industrialization or development of Lagos or Nigeria as a whole and as such didn't build any industrial estate either in Ikeja, Mushin, Ilupeju (Lagos State, Agbara, Otta (Ogun State) or Oluyole Industrial estate in Oyo State.
5) With good leadership, our fathers in the Southwest pioneered development of Nigeria.
We Started
a) Free education (1955)
b) Quality free maternal and child health (1955)
c) Modern Stadium with Liberty Stadium, Ibadan (1960)
d) The first television station in Africa, Western Nigerian Television Services, WNTV, Ibadan (1959)
e) The first sky scrapper in Sub- Saharan Africa, Cocoa House,Ibadan (1964).
f) The first indigenous industrial conglomerate, the Odua group (which succeeded Western Nigerian Development Corporation, WNDC in 1976)
g) Multiple residential and Industrial estates starting with Bodija estate, Ibadan (1956)

Sweetguy25:
1. The strategic importance and development of Lagos has nothing to do with the leadership of the south westerners. Before Awolowo ruled the west, Lagos has had over four white governors. Lagos is over a 100 years old and south westerners have not led lagos for more than 40 years. That investors flock to Lagos and its neighboring states today, has very little to do with the leadership or cultures the indigenous south westerners. Like I said earlier, they flock to lagos because their market availability.
2. You should not forget that the south east was once the east, which consisted of the south east and south south.
3. A south easterner head of state was a core nationalist. He was not a tribalist like the one you had. Also he gave us a university which has educated millions of Igbos and has made the Nigerian state proud.
4. Anything that occurred from 1999 till date is null and void. The dividends of democracy has not reached any tribe except the yoruba's because of Lagos and the proximity of their states to Lagos.
5. South west leadership also lacks foresight. Adedibu is a south westerner. The development of the south west has nothing to with leadership.

Most Commentators on NL like in Nigeria generally don't take time to read and digest what they read.
The list is NOT about richest States but about poverty levels.
There is more money in FCT/Abuja tha Anambra but poverty level in Abuja is higher than in Anambra. Can you now understand?

justjify:
Wait ooh! According by this report, youna mean to tell me say Osun na second richest state?

Can you swear with the blood of Amadioha + Sango+ Ekwensu that you did all these to your ex-friend and all the girls you have slept with (or intend to sleep with) without marrying them?

namet:
Just a public apology, that's all. Suleman also owe his congregation an apology. He owes his wife a big "sorry" (though she's naive about it). So does he... Nigerian women in general.

When you put yourself on a higher moral pedestal than your followers, you owe them an explanation, at the minimum, when your behavior, judgement or actions false short of your holier-than-thou attitude or image. When you fall from grace, your followers and supporters need to know what happened and why.

We all can agree that the Nigerian society is contentious and does not promote cordiality and mutual respect among its people. However, Suleman should and must apologize for letting his supporters down and for lying to the women he shared romantic moments with. He should also apologize to his wife for engaging in unprotected sex with another woman and exposing her to health risks. Suleman should assuage the fears of the women in his church....that they can continue to trust, support and follow him and his teachings.

I was living in the core North in early 2011, in the build up to the 2011 presidential election and to my greatest surprise, I discovered that many Northerners wrongly assumed that GEJ is an Igbo man.
An educated colleague in my work place was even arguing with me that GEJ is an Igbo man but after I clearly explained to them that GEJ is an Ijaw man, she reluctantly agreed that they may be another southern tribe called Ijaw but they in the North call all of them Igbos!

nzgal:
Speculative but true!

Please just ignore the ignoramus. Deji Adeleke has been a multi millionaire since the 1980s.He owned Pacific group of companies (with interest in insurance and banking) since then.

2n2k:
Really? Davido's father (younger brother to the deceased) already owned a bank (Pacific Merchant Bank now part of Unity Bank) before Isiaka became a governor. He is far richer than Isiaka and financed his gubernatorial campaign first for old oyo state in 1990 and later osun in 1991. How then would davido's father be his P.A.?

Who are the WE?
Do you or anyone in your community own an oil exploration company that sell crude oil?

Poorboy:
Yes we know he will buy but i think we will not sell our oil to him, he can buy oil from Angola or libya. Thank You

Right now we largely depend on imported refined petroleum products. Where do we get the money for importation of petrol from?

cktheluckyman:
You will need to make money before paying for the imported crude.So where will that money come from?

This chest beating is unnecessary and childish. EVERY STATE IN NIGERIA HAS MINERAL AND HUMAN RESOURCES.
The resources may not necessarily be the same and their products may not necessarily be exported but different economic activities take place in every State and we more interdependent than tribalists think or acknowledge.

Q

What reserve does the sw or north have, you hating idiot!

Igbos when Yorubas call you ''leeches'' tell them to leave yoruba news outfits and know that:
*Abia and Anambra produces cocoa in commercial quantity.
*Ebonyi is the biggest rice producer in Nigeria with 25 solid minerals(lime stone) and 2 salt lakes.
*the coal in Enugu can power west africa and beyond.
* Anambra holds 16 percent of Nigeria's gas reserve
*Anambra,Abia and Imo(with untapped fields) are crude oil producing state.
*Abia and Imo are the major palm oil producing state.
*Anambra has Bauxite,Imo has ceramic etc.
*Onitsha,Aba,Ladipo,Alaba and computer village are the trade capital in Africa(powered by Igbos)
* Igbos pay 85 percent of import duties in Lagos.
* As the most travelled ethnic group in west Africa, the contribute up to 60 percent Nigeria's abroad remittance.
* the 3 biggest markets in Lagos are powered by Igbos which is a great source of revenue for the state.
* Igbo are major players in real estate in Abuja,thereby generating income for Nigeria via tax.
*Igbos has the biggest investment in Nigeria per capita.
* The second biggest film industry in the world is powered by Igbos.
*The biggest footwear industry in Africa.
* major players in Automotive in industry(ladipo,ibeto,innoson,nnewi auto market etc)
* transportation industry.
* pharmaceuticals

Nigeria finds oil and gas in commercial quantities in Anambra


About 30 tcf of gas and 1 bn barrels of crude oil has been found in the Anambra River basin in Anambra State, the Director of Engineering standard in the Department of Petroleum Resources (DPR), Mr Patrick Onwumere, said in Awka.
Mr Onwumere who led a team of experts to assess the volume of gas and crude reserves in the Anambra River basin as well as gauge the preparedness of the state government in the establishment of an indigenous refinery through its oil company, Orient Petroleum Resources, said the team was impressed with what it saw on the ground.

His revelation was coming on the heels of a confirmation by the Managing Director of Orient Petroleum, Engr. Nnaemeka Nwawka that a large hectare of land for the construction of the refinery which would be sited at Otuocha in Anambra East Local Government area of the state had been mapped out. Nwawka added that the only thing delaying full acquisition of the land is the state governor's signature on the certificate of occupancy (CoO) for the land.
According to Onwumene, his team's visit was a preliminary move which has to do with the Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) of the area, the level of land acquisition promised by the governor, and the examination of the extent of work done so far by the Orient Petroleum Resources.

Onwumene also said he and members of his team were interested in seeing that the exploitation of oil and gas takes off earnestly in the state and expressed his team's satisfaction on the state's preparedness to accomplish their exploitation. He said Anambra State had three sources of oil supply which included, the existing local reserve from the Brass/Agip, import from Venezuela as well as the already discovered wells at Oroma-Etiti in Anambra West and Otuocha in Anambra East council areas of the state.
Onwumene said his team found that the state's oil company, Orient Petroleum Resources had maintained good relationships with the host communities, especially those bordering where the refinery would be sited. He added that with the take off of exploitation of oil reserves in the very near future, a lot of jobless indigenes of Anambra State would be gainfully employed.

Source: THISDAYonline

http://www.gasandoil.com/news/discoveries/d89bc98903f0500bdba5eca6bd2b8b9b

Why turning every thread on NL into Igbo Vs Non-Igbos?
The OP directed his question to Niger deltans and Tonye Barcanistan replied him/ her, in which way did his post offend igbos?

explorer250:
And i hope you have a boundry definition of what you call Niger Delta. The oil politics that divided igboland will soon be over and the boundry between igboland and your Niger delta(mainly ijaws) will be drawn.

I thank God my people has always been proud of their igboness despite being in Rivers state. The future holds good for us as igbos with the help of our naturally endowed "survival instincts/spirit"

we are developing.
We are expanding.
We are progressing.

Lest i forget. Obigbo is the satelite town of porthacourt. We are doing Good Infrastructurally and otherwise.
What does the future hold for polluted ijaw land?

Wasnt igboland producing palm oil?

Dont igboland have a seaport at porthacourt?

Somalia has the longest coastline in africa but where are they?

Doesnt igboland have more gas reserves and solid minerals than ijaw land?

Dont we have the human resource?

You once said that igbos lack bargaining chips, so what will be your peoples bargaining chips when pure water is more costly than toxic crude?

We are majorities, we can never loose in this game just like the yorubas and hausas though we have our political differences with them. Minority will always remain minority, they will continue to be pawns in the cheese board of Nigeria

You know what? Eurobomber was right!

Its good and even expedient to have functional ports in Rivers State but that wouldn't diminish the importance of Lagos.
Lagos has been an important maritime city for at least 500 years.

Abagworo:
i only saw states in asha80s post and not tribe.the issue is marginalisation of rivers state by fg.if the port harcourt ports were upgraded,lagos wouldnt be important as it is today.

Lagos ports are built in LAGOONS but the ports in Rivers State are built in a Delta and are a far from the Atlantic ocean.

tpiah:
Instead of making this a tribal thing, I hope you know many different topographical factors may be responsible for this.

The Niger river, for instance, divides into a delta before it enters the sea.

In Lagos, the rivers form swampy lagoons instead.

Different geography.

Am just saying. The coastline isnt the same.

Bros, calm down and answer the questions I posed earlier instead of this your epistle that look like answers to questions that were never asked.
1) I strongly condemned the unwarranted killings of the Igbos after the counter-coup. It was senseless and unnecessary.
2) The civil war was a watershed in the history of Nigeria. Most countries go through such turbulent phase in their process of Nation building.
3) I expected the Oputa Panel to be a genuine mean of national reconciliation in which both sides of the divide will apologize to each and make conscious and deliberate efforts to heal the wounds, prevent a recurrence and promote true national unity in which all parts of Nigeria will feel a sense of belonging.

eduj:
bro i don't have time to engage disparaging characters, your girlfriend or wife would be better suited for that task. Its obvious you dont know that the coup was an unmitigated success in the north, you also didn't know that ifeajuna failed in the south west because ironsi mobilised to lagos when the coup plotter sent to off him (in the east) reneged on the plan,ifeajuna was subsequently smuggled by an igbo business man to ghana (because ironsi then was in charge in lagos) .
After the coup of 1966,nzeogwu was in control of the north while gowon was in charge of the south. ojukwu (who was against the coup, hence his reticence to release nzeogwu even after declaring Biafra) arrested the guy sent to collect cash for the coup soldiers which resulted in a near mutiny at nzeogwus camp. nzeogwu bargained for immunity after which he relinquished command.
Nzeogwus coup is just a superficial excuse to justify what Nigerians did to the igbo.
1) after the counter coup,why didnt gowon and co ,court martial the feb boys?
2) why wasn't persecution of the said coup plotters a topic during the aburi accord?
3) why was nzeogwu afforded a state burial (gowon even attended) even as his ethnic group where being made to pay for the supposed "igbo coup"?
ifeajuna and colonel banjo where shot dead because of their double dealings with the nigerian army command-that goes to show you that the last thing on the mind of those coup plotters was igbo domination.
Many of you peeps are quick to accuse the igbo ethnic group of a sinister plan to land grab the ikwerre, etche and anioma tribes(who they claim aren't igbo) , but are quick to claim the coup of 1966 which was carried out mainly by the anioma as an igbo coup -that my bro is "ethnic bigotry and later day revisionism".

Tribal bigots like you always reduce every discussion on NL to Igbo Vs Yoruba.
It may interest you to know that of ALL the political and Military leaders killed on Jan 15,1966, S.L Akuntola, the premier of Western Region was THE ONLY ONE THAT FOUGHT the coupists back bullets for bullets from his personal SMG until he ran out of bullets.
S.L Akintola Knew he was going to be killed but wasn't going to go down without a fight.... He was indeed Aare Onakakanfo( may his soul continue to rest in perfect peace) that fought bravely till death, not a lilly livered General that ran away,after causing the death of millions of his people.
Who were the people in NADECO that fought Abacha to a stand still? Did you expect the Yorubas to resort to armed conflict because Canada, UK and the US assured them of 'support' when they had no standing army and armoury of their own?
You don't go to war, basing your survival on the strength or magnanimity of others.What was in for Canada, UK or US in such a war?
...Ojukwu made similar mistakes, figting a war, he stood no chance to win abinitio leading to the avoidable death of millions of his people with reverberating effects still been felt till today.


* Abacha died on Jun 8,1998 and MKO Abiola died on July7,1998

kettykin:
The igbos should lick their wounds and move on . Argument with pathological liars and chronic cowards will not change any thing.

They claim igbos invasion of the sw in ore was why they joined the war but fail to realise awo became VP before then. Also the same idiotic reasoning cannot explain why they failed to fight the invaders of kwara till today.

I also heard some people claiming that igbos killed their leaders and that was why they fought igbos.

The questions remain .when the north killed Fajuyi was he not leader and you didn't do any thing . Abacha alone killed MKO . And imprisoned all the south west generals even the ones that go around boasting of some unverified civil war heroism and the yorubas couldn't come up with action . Even though America Canada Germany Russia was ready to back them .

It is to come to the nairaland to defend their cowardice. I often told people if oussarra of ivory coast was a yoruba he would probably have been in jail.

As someone who has read widely about the first coup and the counter-coup of July, 1966, I am of the opinion that
The Jan 15,1966 coup was complex because it appeared that there were about 3 coups going on simultaneously.
a) Ifeajuna originated the first coup with its objectives kept secret but which later seemed to manifest with obvious ethnic colouration.
b) Nzeogwu was a revolutionary who taught they were carrying out a revolution and recruited his friend, a fellow revolutionary, Ademoyega.
c) Gen Ironsi hijacked the coup to become the biggest beneficiary of the resultant chaos.
This is my own opinion, I may be wrong or right.



.[.quote author=NegroNtns post=8780824]This Vanuatu coup was a plan to eiminate tip politicians for corruption and it was planned to be ethnic-blind. However when the plotters on gound started the killling they reneged on agreements and plan and it became ethnic-visible, selectively killing off Westerners and Northerners and sparing Easterners. The objectve of the coup was not achieved. Instead, a well kept secret of a sinister intent was unleashed. The Igbo plotters betrayed and backstabbed their non-Igbo co plotters.

That was the sowing of the seed. The igbo planted the seed.

The counter coup of July 66 was a harvest. The igbos reaped what they sowed in January.

Igbos must have loved the harvest of July because soon after, their leader Ojukwu soon planted even a wider with field stretching from west of river niger into MidWest.
As can be predicted, yep, a very big bumper harvest followed that vision by Ojukwu to sow his seeds in a wider field.

Strange enough, igbos have stopped sowing any more seeds and as natural can be expected, there has not been a harvest.[/quote]

Blantant LIE from the pit of hell!
1) There was no such thing. Maj Emmanuel Ifeajuna ran to Enugu to discuss with the Premier of Eastern region, Dr Michael Okpara, few hours after killing Tafawa Balewa, Okotie-Eboh, Brig Maimalari, Col Largema and Others.
2) Ifeajuna thereafter escaped to Ghana. Do you run away as a fugitive if you have immunity?
3) Lastly, Gen Ironsi incarcerated the coupists but refrain from subjecting them to trial by military tribunal or any court for that matter.
Ethnic bigots and later day revisionists, do you still incarcerate and promise trial for somebody who has been granted immunity?

eduj:
one of the concession the January boys got from ironsi before surrendering was immunity .That was why he was reticent to court martial nzeogwu and co.You can get more info regarding the coup by reading books such as "WHO KILLED NZEOGWU,"

May be you aren't aware that shortly after the coup (during Gen Ironsi's regime) there was an official POLICE report on the Jan15,1966 coup.This report is available online, it will cure you of historical revisionism.

Chyz2:
Have no idea where you are getting that im saying "Nzeogwu isnt Igbo" from. And yes, it matters who pulled the trigger. It also matters that that it wasn't only igbos who were part of the coup too. It was just another coup and that coup happened to be headed by an Igbo. Even the biggest Igbo hater alive, Edwin clark, said himself that the coup was the works of Igbo and Yorubas. So yea, all need to be laid out on the story. If a story is going to be told, it should be the whole story.

Gen Ironsi was the SUPREME commander of the Nigerian Army but why did he allowed Maj T.Y Danjuma and much more junior officers to arrest,unclad and seriously beaten him up before shooting him to death?
Why couldn't he control his own ADCs and their soldiers?
This clearly shows that during coups, there is breakdown of discipline, law and orders...only those who have the greatest access to means of violence can be correct.

EzeUche:
He could not control his troops. Right or wrong? He was the most senior officer after Ironsi was killed in cold blood. Right or wrong?

Please read 'There was a Country' by Prof Chinua Achebe and My Command by Olusegun Obasanjo to have versions of the Midwestern region invasion enroute Lagos.
1)According to Achebe (Biafran Minister of Communication during the war), Biafra troops that invaded Midwest enroute Lagos were about 1000 soldiers.
2) Why was Banjo begging and trying to convince Obasanjo , the then GOC, 2nd Mechanized division of the Nigerian Army,Ibadan for a safe passage through the Yorubaland?
Banjo and Ifeajuna knew their attempt to go beyond Ore enroute Lagos will be tantamount to committing suicide.
Most Igbos love to view this issue emotionally, only from one perspective- that of betrayal, usually passed onto them from their parents and older generations without allowing for contrary critical views or possibility of other perspectives.




quote author=thotsofnaij post=46397730]

Friend you are dreaming if you actually believe that 180 held back 7000 men. With what? A nuclear bomb? The fact is the only resistance they met on their march was cleared away quickly before BAnjo for no reason halted their match. Another officer of igbo extraction who could not understand why Banjo halted the march when the only defense between them and Gowon(at the seat of power) had been cleared away was ordered arrested by Banjo. The officer had to escape when his arrest was about to be affected.

Banjo was asked many times by his commander-in-chief why the hold up and he kept lieing that everything was still progressing while all the time betraying his commander who had in good faith given him command of this strategic and brilliant move.

Go get some understanding.[/quote]

Sir, please answer these questions as fair as possible.
1) Didn't Biafra used weapons and ammunitions gotten from foreign countries?.. Is there a law/ universal war convention which forbide using ammunitions from foreign countries?
2) Why did Biafra had to rely on the benevolence of her opponents, the Nigeria in getting access to weapons, food supply and other essential commodities for the survival of Biafra?
3) Did Biafra ever entered into an aggrement with her opponent, the Nigerian State NOT TO block her access to the outside world via the sea and land to ensure smooth supply of weapons, food and medications which the Nigerian state reneged , prompting Biafra to shout foul play?
What manner of military leader leads his people into a war, basing their survival on the benevolence and magnanimity of his opponents?

whirlwind7:
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After Banjo's treachery was uncovered, there is no other penalty other than death. He had planned the assassination of Ojukwu, and he almost succeeded. For every logical reason, he had to pay the penalty for that.

As for your saying that the "murder" of Banjo led to the defeat of Biafra, well, just to put it mildly, that is a lot of hogwash. The incident of Banjo's betrayal of course, affected the morale of Biafra's army. But their eventual defeat was due to Britain covertly supplying the Federal forces with arms and ammunition, coupled with the act of genocide by the Nigerian government through the blockading of food and relief supplies meant for the civilian populace who eventually starved to death in their millions.

1) Sir, are you aware that the Ikwerres made representation to the Willinks commission of 1958 set up by the departing colonial government to look into the fears of the ethnic minorities?
Are you aware that many Ikwerre people were part of the Calabar-Ogoja-Rivers (COR) movement in the 1950s, agitating for the creation of a separate region for ethnic minorities in the old eastern region?
I hope you know that the Ogbakor Ikwerre convention of 1963 declared Ikwerre as a distinct ethnic group?
Did all these happened because of the civil war? I think the Ikwerre used the civil war to reassert and proclaim to the whole world, their distinctness from Igbos.
Several Igbo clans who truly BELIEVE they are igbos also went through the civil war without ' changing their identities'
2) Non-Enugu igbos returned to Enugu after the war to meet their properties because the Enugu igbos see themselves and the returnees as one and the same,TRUE brotherhood !
3) Identity is SELF IMPOSED and not externally imposed.
If Hausas, Kanuris, Nupes and Yorubas referred to Ikwerre as Igbos , does that truly define them as such? most southerners called Angas, Bolewa, KareKare, Berom,Bade,Gwarri and Kanuria Hausa peoples but they are not Hausa.
4) The renaming of certain areas in Rivers was to reflect the ways the Ikwerre pronounce those words and not to make it less Igbo as some Igbos believe.
5) P/Harcourt was one of the first cities(by 1968) to fall and the reason is very easy to figure out.
Its very difficult to prosecute a war in an area in which majority of the populace don't believe in the course of the war!
This is the same reason, Book Haram can not make Owerri, P/Harcourt or Ibadan, their theatre of operations.
6) Finally as a neutral person who has studied the Igbo-Ikwerre debacle, I know that a lot of Ikwerre have Igbo origin but that's not the whole story.Ikwerre also have peoples that have Edo, Ijaw and Ogoni ancestries to produce a hybrid stock that's unique, so if they want to be on their own as a SEPARATE ETHNIC GROUP, let them be.This should not make Igbos to be embittered and start insulting them or calling them names.

Examples abound all over the world; the Seminoles are a tribal group in the US, formed in the 19th century by assimilation of black slaves into native American communities. The Moors were people during the medieval period formed from fusion of Arab and Berber tribes, the Samaritans were of Jewish and gentile ancestry and back home, the Ogori-Mangogo people in Kogi State are Yoruba people who have absorbed considerable Ebira and Nupe culture to the extent that some now pronounce themselves a new ethnic group.
In 200 years time, Delta State might have fused into one single tribe with pidgin as their language!






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1) I just explained why this happened. Read through my post again, Ikwerres switched sides to the Nigerian government and disclaimed being Igbo and were saved from being killed and wiped out. Remember that the Asaba people were not even part of Biafra as of 1967 but they were rounded up and killed in hundreds because the Nigerian soldiers perceived them to be Igbo. The same fate was to befall Ikwerre if not for the fact that they denied being Igbo and Rivers state had been formed already (with the efforts of Ikwerre elders) on the Nigerian side which the defunct Biafran republic did not recognize. What makes you think Nigerians on the whole do NOT still view Ikwerres as Igbo despite all the denials? Let me ask you a question, if the current landmass of SE and maybe Akwa Ibom and Cross River leaves Nigeria today to be on their own, with Delta Igbos and Rivers Igbos remaining behind do you think you guys remaining behind in Nigeria will still not be seen as Igbo? Or what makes you think that Ikwerres will not be viewed under the lens of Igbo after the so-called main 'Igbos' leave Nigeria or that they won't be attributed the traits and perceptions of 'Igbo' as we know it today? To many of these Nigerians, some Igbo still remain for here o, some no follow their brothers comot...probably you'll hear things like: your name na chukwudi, chinda, chiburuoma etc. (to them all na omo ibo names), una brothers don comot why una no follow dem comot? Just take time to think about this deeply.

2) Of course the people fled, they all went into hiding. My paternal grandmother and a widow at that time escaped with her 9 children from anambra to 9 miles from umuahia. Now do you know that it is possible that NOT all Igbos in PH fled? Some may have found good spots to hide in. PH was one of the last towns to fall and by virtue of this many Igbos from upland had fled further south as the Nigerian soldiers advanced downwards, and Ikwerres simply saved themselves from the same fate that occurred at Asaba, Nsukka, Owerri etc. by switching sides and disclaiming being Igbo.

3) That did not happen because many of them did not have such properties and businesses in their own villages. PH was a mega town considered an Igbo town as of then and the natives, ikwerres, did not have to flee when the soldiers came because they switched sides immediately. PH could not be compared to Isiokpo or Aluu because businesses were not there as in PH. PH was initially formed to be an extension of Enugu in terms of exporting abundant coals gotten from Enugu. Owerri also fell to the soldiers, same as Enugu but there was no abandoned property saga story in those places. Non-Enugu Igbos returned to Enugu after the war to their properties and businesses, same for Owerri. My paternal grandfather built a house close to Kenyatta market Enugu and after the war my grandmother and her 9 children returned to her husband's property in Enugu untouched. Same for Onitsha, Asaba, Aba etc. Remember, brothers would not do such to their own brother except if they did not see themselves as one. Look around you, Aba, Onitsha, Aba etc. all fell to the Nigerian soldiers and non-indigene Igbos returned to those places after the war to resume their former lives, no stories of seized properties in those states. Even in Lagos too. Only in PH did this happen (tells you the quality of minds those who did it had). Igbo vs PH/Ikwerre would be similar to Yorubas from SW living in Lagos and fleeing lets say due to a war in Lagos only to return and Lagos indigenes (those form Lagos proper who formerly identified as Yoruba and lived in peace with them) to turn around and disclaim being Yoruba and snatch up businesses and buildings of Yorubas from other SW states.

4) By this are you referring to UmuIgbo town in Rivers state? If UmuIgbo was a town for Igbo descendants not for Ikwerre people, why then was it renamed to RumuIgbo (with different or off accent pronunciation now) as most of the Ikwerre town names in PH starting with 'umu' were renamed to Rumu to properly reflect an Ikwerre identity? Why did they bother to rename a supposed Igbo town to Ikwerre naming convention if they didn't feel that town was already an Ikwerre town? Then you have Obigbo (heart of Igbo) which was renamed to Oyigbo. I would think that Umuigbo is simply a pointer of the Igbo origins of the Ikwerres, which they tried to mask by renaming it. You can virtually find Igbo in many town names as is common all over Igbo-speaking Nigeria, even among the Etches (Igbo-Etche village, Igbo Etche road) etc.

In as much as I will not follow in the train of thought that labelled the Ikwerres and probably Ijaws as saboteurs/betrayers (who turned on people they share the most linguistic affinity with in the whole world, switched sides on them and even helped Nigerian soldiers to locate hiding spots for Biafran soldiers where these people were found and shot dead immediately), the Ikwerres probably did what was best for them to avert the genocide that was to occur to them had they not denied being Igbo. Such is life.[/quote]

Many people don't even know that representation in the National assembly and the United Nation is by quota system!
In Nigeria, every state is to produce 3 senators. Why can't each state conduct a senatorial election in which the first best 3 candidates (solely based on merit) are picked to represent their state?
Let's take IMO State as an example,if we just elect the first best 3 candidate as senators, its possible they all come from one town, let's say Mbaise.
However, by dividing the State into Okigwe, Owerri and Orlu senatorial districts in the spirit of equity, different zones are given the chances to be elected senators.