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DMerciful:
The propaganda and hatred started way before elections. When subsidy was removed in 2012, SW leaders knew it was the right thing but wanted to make the govt look bad hence they occupied Lagos.

Mulikat was supposed to be speaker but Tinubu told his people to vote against her so he could have a propaganda that Yorubas were not in GEJs govt. Some position esp coordinating minister of the economy angered the SW since an Igbo woman got that position. Tinubu wanted to influence appointments in GEJ govt but was not allowed hence the massive campaign of columny against GEJ.

When GEJ said Igbos were the pillars of his administration, that was the final straw for the SWestners

Again, you keep writing out of ignorance.

Political parties account for about 70% of the success and failures of candidates in an election.

1) The real reason why Jonathan was defeated was the emergence of the APC in 2014.
If the weaker parties had not coalesce into one strong political party, any candidate presented by the PDP would have won.

2) The PDP/Jonathan won in Enugu, Ekiti, Taraba and Rivers States because the PDP was strong in these States, just as the APC lost in these States because it was weak in these States.


Similarly, the APC won in Lagos, Kano, Borno,Ogun, Oyo, Osun and Kwara States because it was strong in these States.


3) Jonathan/PDP actually won in some local Gov'ts Areas (LGAs) where the party was formidable.

For instance,in the 2015 elections in Osun State, Jonathan/PDP won in Obokun & Ori-Ade LGAs (Ijesha North Federal constituency) because of the political influence of Hon. Oluwole Oke, the most formidable politician in that areas. This had nothing to do with Igbos or propaganda as you wrongly assume.

Similarly, Jonathan/PDP won in Ife Central and Ife South LGAs because of the political influence of Senator Iyiola Omisore, the PDP candidate in the 2014 Gubernatorial election. Again, this had nothing to do with Igbos or propaganda.

3) It doesn't make sense to assume that the PDP ought to defeat the APC, which was formed by the CPC and the ACN ,the household party in the S/west.
This is like asking why the APC didn't win in Anambra State.

DMerciful:
It was the hatred towards GEJ because of Igbos that rubbed off on the other elections. There was already momentum that GEJ and by extension PDP would be voted out. In 2011, did SW give GEJ 40%? The propaganda against GEJ came majorly from the West so it's was more than the actual election results.

GEJ was hated in the West because he surrounded himself with Igbos, deal with it!

Again, you just wrote out of ignorance.


1) In 2011, Jonathan reached a working understanding with the ruling party in the ACN which worked for Jonathan's victory because their own party was weak.

2) By 2014, the APC had emerged with formidable structure to win a presidential election, so how do you think people will leave their own interests and be pursuing the interests of their opponents?

3) In 2015, Jonathan/PDP won in Ekiti State because Gov Ayo Fayose-led PDP government was in power in Ekiti.


4) On the eve of the 2015 elections, the APC controlled 5 States while the PDP controlled only Ekiti State, so how do you think that
the PDP ought to defeat the APC in the presidential election in the S/west and the reason why the PDP couldn't was because Jonathan had Igbos around him?


How do you think the ruling party in the S/west ought not to had worked for their own party's success?

5) The strength and UNITY of the parties in each State determine their performance, this is not Rocket Science


You approach political issues from emotional points of views, hence you may not understand how elections are won and lost.

kingsways:
During the last governorship election debates in Anambra, all candidates irrespective of party agreed that Obi performed well as governor of Anambra. This is uncommon. You can find the videos on the Internet

Contestants in Governorship debates declaring that 'someone did well during in his tenure' taking place about 8 years after Peter Obi left Office is not an objective way of evaluating the achievements of Peter Obi.



'Performing well' is a subjective statements with meaning that varies from a person to another person.

It is more objective to list known and verifiable indices of performance e.g the Kilometers of road constructed, poverty rates, number of vehicles & communications gadgets bought for security agencies, IGR and maternal mortality rates before and after Obi.

Ngorbungor:
His CV is out there to judge, you guys should please stop disturbing us.

The Curriculum Vitae of a person gives a brief summary about one's BioData, educational qualifications, work experience ,Awards received, hobbies and about 3 people (Referees) that can vouch that the information in it are correct.It has nothing to do with achievements while in office as a Governor.

xelly:
Fulani herders, FGs eyes became permanently blind?

The FG failed abysmally to handle the cases of the killer herdsmen well.

DMerciful:
What about Igboho? You support fg move?

Again, this is not my point.

You can open a separate thread on Mr Igboho's case.

DMerciful:
You're denying the truth. Yorubas voted against GEJ cos of Igbos. This is a fact!

People like you that reason like this don't understand anything about elections.

1) Jonathan/PDP received millions of votes in the S/west (about 40% of the total votes cast in the S/west).

2) The APC received about 60% of the votes cast in the S/west.

These reflect the relative strengths of these parties in the S/west. It has nothing with Igbos.

3) What happened in 2015 were general elections in which Presidential, Senatorial, Reps, Governorship and House of Assembly elections were also conducted.
The APC won in all the other five elections ,so how do you think that Jonathan contesting on the platform of the PDP ought to have defeated the APC in just in the presidential election?

offorjide:
Okwute Idi Igbo ur people is strongly behind you among the people that have declared interest to run, sentiment apart you are the most qualified . The West aren't serious TINUBU is corrupt and incompetent while OSIBANJO is inexperienced and still remain a product of godfatherism they cabals will easily hijack his government so PETER OBI still remain the only person to take Nigeria to the promise land please they youths should join together and support this visionary leader

Peter Obi needs to first win the PDP primaries.

mbahdi:
God people are not always seen
What a vibrant man.and ready to work.but my country will rather choose a walking corpse dat will be presiding dem from USA

The first hurdle doesn't involve the whole country but PDP stakeholders who are not illiterates but educated and enlightened men and women.

This is the reason why you guys should convince majority of the PDP delegates to vote for Peter Obi.

BeeBeeOoh:


Peter Gregory Obi should not border himself about Nigeria because Nigerians does not deserve him.

We prefer to vote in another Buhari pro-max.

The more aspirants the better.


Peter Obi and his team should work very hard to win the presidential primaries of the PDP.

Esseite:
Going by this postulations below, one honestly thinks Obasanjo was truly as statesman that was all about unity, he saw the marginalization of the SS and acted proactively to mend it. While the unity of Nigeria took a terrible turn in 2011 when the Tinubu APC rejected the Speakership position on behalf of the SW just to sell the marginalized propaganda while going ahead to deepen the disunity with clinching two key positions that could have united the country. Between 2011 and 2015 the NE was marginalized and felt abandoned by the GEJ government which bolstered the Bokoharam agenda while the SW saw it as an advantage to align motives championing insecurity to oust GEJ thereby foisting Buhari being a leader of the agenda.


1999 - 2007
President : Obasanjo - SW
VP : Atiku - NE

Senate - chuba okadigbo - SE
Anytime Pius - SE
Adolphus Wabara- SE
Ken nnamani - SE

Deputy - ibragim mantu - NC

Speaker - Salisu Buhari - NW
Ghali na abbar - NW
Bello masari - NW
Deputy -

2007 - 2011
President : Yar adua - NW
VP - GEJ - SS

Senate - David mark - NC
Deputy - Ekweremadu - SE
Speaker - Patricia Etteh - SW
Dimeji bankole - SW
Deputy -


2011 - 2015
President : GEJ - SS
VP : sambo - NW
Senate - David mark - NC
Deputy - Ekweremadu - SE
Speaker - Tambuwal - NW (SW rejected by Tinubu)
Deputy - ihedioha - SE

2015 - 2019
President - Buhari -NW
VP - osibanjo - SW
Senate - Saraki - NC
Deputy - Ekweremadu - SE
Speaker - Dogara - NE
Deputy - lasun - SW

2019 - 2023
President - Buhari - NW
VP - Osibanjo - SW
Senate - lawan - NE
Deputy - Agege - SS
Speaker - Gbaja - SW
Deputy - wase - NC

You failed to highlight/ bolden Emeke ihediawa and Ike Ekweremadu ,both from the S/East who were Deputy Speaker and Deputy Senate President respectively between 2011-2019.


You also failed to highlight/bolden Namadi Sambo (Vice-president from 2011-2015) and Aminu Tambuwal (Speaker from 2011-2015) ,both from the N/west .


You also need to know that between 1979-1983, Hon Ume-Ezeoke and Dr Alex Ekwueme ,both from the S/East were Speaker and Vice-president respectively.

I believe Peter Obi is good enough to be president because those who have been presidents before aren't better than him.

However, the hype about him as the candidate with the midas touch to turn around Nigeria need to be substantiated.



What were the IGR of Anambra before and after the administration of Peter Obi?

How many Kilometers of road were tarred under Peter Obi?

What were the unemployment rates before and after the administration of Peter Obi?

How many units of houses did he construct?

What were the Maternal mortality rates in Anambra State before and after Obi?

Listing private companies like Innoson and Breweries as achievements of a State Governor is faulty.

DMerciful:
Loool...you're making it look like Igbos and Yorubas were cordial before Nnamdi Kanu or before 2011. This friction has been going on since independence and that's why I wonder why Yorubas were insisting on one Nigeria with people they do not like and who do not like them as well

This is not my point.


Nnamdi Kanu was busy preaching hatred against other Nigerians with many Igbos cheering him up and repeating his messages.

When the FG decided to arrest Nnamdi Kanu and curtailed his excesses, it's natural that these other Nigerians who were the victims of his agitations will support the move.

nku5:
Chicago drug baron turned politician with his hungry supporters

It's better that you guys look for a credible candidate and support him to defeat the candidate you don't like.

Masterkernel1:
I was on reading cruise when I read through your lines, boom!.

I barely know you, but hypocrisy kills faster than cancer. I've known your Moniker long enough judging by your biased analysis.

During the Nnamdi Kanu travail, didn't you bother to know the clan of those casting aspersions as well as throwing tantrums on him? You troll what Igbos love most (Biafra) in turn, you want us to be quiet when it's time for pay back.

Lesson: You can't eat your cake and have it.

Nnamdi Kanu started base his agitation by preaching hatred against the Hausa-Fulani and the Yorubas the tempo of which increased especially after the 2015 electi
His tweets and broadcasts against the Yorubas are all over the internet, this is the reason why most non-igbo Nigerians that comment against him on social media are doing so.

Many of the young Igbo online picked their anti-Nigerian altitudes from his broadcasts on Radio Biafra.

Oracleforce:
Tinubu asslicker spotted...why will someone go and stay in London and excepting some buffoonery to be campaigning for him in Nigeria because of what they can derive from his stolen and ilk-gotten wealth.

What a shame!

Nobody has started campaigns.


Tinubu is still a private citizen ,CONSULTING people in and out of Nigeria.

Both Atiku and Buhari went to the Chattam House, London to drum up support for their presidential ambition.

ityP:
Akpabio has lost political relevance in akwa ibom, dude just went to APC to steal unprovoked. APC is so hated in Akwa Ibom. Same thing with Ben Ayade. Cross River state no send him papa. Na PDP dem know. Same thing with Delta state. Na PDP state be that.

Okay, how many votes will the APC get in Cross-River, Delta State?

What these politicians gain if PDP win?

ityP:
Lol. Even now, it's clear he doesn't have the support of many in the party. I mean, the north don't play blind politics. This time is too delicate for them. The restructuring issue dey fear them. Ranching and open grazing too. They would not want a man they see as "too cunning" to be president. Plus, if he doesn't go for a Muslim vice, it will compound his woes.

Why do you think only Tinubu can do things that that you just mentioned?


Why do you think the other aspirants can't do all these?



In any case, how do you prevent changes and for how long in a heterogeneous country?

ityP:
He seems to be the most powerful candidate in APC as we speak. Except he selects a candidate himself, if not, he will be APCs flag bearer

You are contradicting yourself.

ityP:
This is just the fact. Except they are lying to themselves. SS are even more vexed because this same APC, no allow their brother continue him reign. Only the SS no rule for complete 8 years o. E still dey pain them for south south. SE is a no go area. They hate APC more than they hate northerners. I mean, they voted Atiku and Yaradua

Which party is Sen Ovie Omo-Agege (Deputy Senate President), Godswill Akpabio and Gov Ben Ayade working for?

Macphenson:
I once said that Tinubu's greed will only perpetuate power in the north.

If there must be zoning, definitely there must be microzoning.

Tinubu's tracherous betrayal of GEJ ( and by extension the entire south) claiming sufferistication is the bane of southern president.

The north will continue to exploit the disunity among the south. Its even more insulting to other southern region that Tinubu wants to be president after helping in moving power domiciled in south to north.

Lets watch and see. 2023 election is going to be very interesting. Tinubu must contest.

He will understand North has no political party.

The topic is about PDP and what they plan to do but you turning it into Tinubu thread and blaming Tinubu who is not a member of the PDP.

Kenneth10110:
U pple are doing everything to promote Tinubu and APC una plan must scatter.

But it's okay if you people are doing everything to paint Tinubu as the devil and the cause of every problem in Nigeria?

Justiceleague1:
Ok so some people also want a better deal not with tinubu,how about that?!

This is democracy, everybody can NOT vote for Tinubu and nobody is expecting everybody to do so.



Vote for whoever you like and let those who want to vote for Tinubu do so in peace, whoever receive the highest votes should become the president.

EastisBae:
Why do you think that most of the candidates haven't started campaigning seriously despite how close we are to the elections? Simple, they're trying to understand where the cabals have penciled down on. Only Tinubu is campaigning seriously ATM because he has too much expendable money. Even Atiku is careful enough to be patient. He rather sent Dokpesi to make those statements because he could sense that support of the cabals is swaying towards SE.

You guys only know how to throw tantrums and blackmails without facing reality.

Campaign has not started. Only consultation is going on.

Gadafii:
Baba point and kill, lagosians wey you killfor toll gate abi

Lagosians no send ur papa, without the federal might, in a free and fair election, you can't win

Two weeks after the Lekki shootings, there was an election in Lagos East Senatorial District (including Lekki) and the APC won with wide margin.

Bros, forget it sir.


The APC is the majority party in Lagos.

okorosblog:
Let the meeting be held at leki toll gate pls

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Leverage2021:
best governor because Ambrose Alli and ogbemudia play golf?

As for political relevance, Where is oshomole relevance in edo today?

Someone that was sacked by his polling unit to ward
He is only relevant to you Yoruba Muslim who have chosen him as you man in edo

He actually delivered his ward, LGA and Federal constituency

Bendeco02:
Yorubas are very weak I swear... You insult Igbos on a daily basis and always cry when the insults are returned back to you guys.

You hate anyone that like Igbos and anything that favors Igbos yet want Igbos to love you.

Yorubas vote against Goodluck jonathan in 2015 not because of his performance but because he surrounded himself with Igbos.

They even made thier intention known.

The day you will start attacking igbo business in lagos as some of you are already threatening is the day you will see the violent side of the Igbos..

Make that una gra gra no pass online o

Yorubas did NOT vote against Jonathan, he actually got millions of votes in Yoruba land. What truly happened what that the PDP was and is still a minority party in the S/west.

Not only, Jonathan but many prominent Yoruba politicians who contested on the platform of the PDP lost to the APC, the majority party in the S/west.

How do you think Jonathan could have won in Yoruba land when his part lost in all other elections (Local Government, State, National Assembly and Presidential elections)?


And even if Yorubas voted against Jonathan, how did you just conclude that it's because he surrounded himself with Igbos? What if they did because they wanted a better deal from the APC?

proclinician:
Yes, it is not the job of leadership to put in place effective systems that will steer the country on the path to prosperity. It is the job of the holy spirit.

Some of u ppl eeh de make me feel like say the worst is yet to come for Africa. Tufiakwa

How long do u think it took uae to become what it is today?

And you think the president is the only leadership in Nigeria?


And by the way, who are our leaders and where do they emerge from?

Are our leaders Ghanians, Egyptians, Brazilians or Americans? The answer is a capital NO.

Our leaders emerge from the populace.


No significant changes can occur in any society unless a critical mass of that society support it.

proclinician:
i dont need anybody to support my candidate. I only need people to consider a better nigeria for themselves and their children You self that is talking, don't u think u deserve a better naija for urself and ur kids. Do u want ur kids to grow up and stay at home cos of ASUU strike or end policebrutality protests? these things no hard.

Americans saw value and voted Obama
Today america cannot forget Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act of 2010.

Many people who think like this don't really understand how and why a country becomes developed.

Irrespective of who becomes the president, Nigeria can't transformed into a developed country during his tenure.

winterfell007:
As I can Igbo guy, I'm forced to agree with you on this. I usually tell my fellow Igbo brethrens that we play terrible politics and that is what has caused us to be in political doldrums. Nnamdi Kanu came from no where and worsened Igbo's political situation. We are just reemerging from the Civil-War era and trying to rebuild our political base as Zik of Africa once did only for NK to destroy the foundation we painstakingly built over the years.
Peter Obi's intention to run for the presidential race is welcoming to all and sundry who are right-thinking members of the society, devoid of tribal, ethnic and parochial politics. But it's sad that Nigeria's politics is ethnic driven. But if things were to play out political right, there's no reason why Peter Obi can't emerge winner. Other viable candidates I consider would be Proffesor Osibanjo, but we have got some political healing to do first.

Peter Obi is not likely to win the primaries of the PDP ,not because of tribalism but because he has more formidable opponents who have really invested in the political processes far longer than him.

Ojiofor:
That was the post that prompt that response from me it didn't came out of the blues.

I hope you know that Moferere is NOT the same as Oyatz?