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tstx:
The Muslims think this too... Budhist too and so does every other major religion on earth... So who is fooling whom?

The way i see it.. This talk is just to get more followers..

Anywhere you dey so long as you are pure at heart... Nothing dey happen...

exacly !
You are on point!

The bottomline is, every religion(including my christianity) making statements saying they are the only way to God or salvation are mere rhetorical statements and should not be a source of division or cleavages among adherents of the various religions of the world.

One love for all, irrespective their faith or religion

Except along the line in your life on this earth you decided to be converted from the christian faith to join islam, athiesm, budhaism, judaism, african traditional idol worshipping or any other faith of this world other than christianity.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

That simply means, no man cometh to the father except by christianity.
Not by judaism or abraham or any other faith as it applied in the days when scriptures were written.

Today, there are several faiths other than the christian faith but only the christian faith is the recommended faith.

If you are not in christianity you are among the goat.
If you are in christianity you are among the sheep. matt 25:23

Now, do not listen to any pastor telling you that you must be righteous or born again or go to church before you can be saved.

The only criteria for salvation is your faith in christ.

Without faith it is impossible to please God.

The General Overseer of the Redeemed Christian Church of God, Pastor Enoch Adeboye, has urged Nigerians to be in fellowship with God, in order to get his attention.

Adeboye spoke on Saturday at the 17th Annual Abuja Special Holy Ghost Service, held at KM 23, Auta- Gurgu village, Keffi, Nassarawa State with the theme, “Divine Choice”.

According to him, fellowship with God is the security of Christians in the days of trouble, because it makes them more than conquerors.

Ministering on the theme, Adeboye said that Divine Choice influences other choices, and it makes believers conquerors.

“When men make their choice, errors are bound to occur. But when the choice is from the Almighty God Himself, be it spiritual, political, professional, it is perfect and settled,” he said.

According to him, when there is Divine Choice, the permutations of men become irrelevant.

“And the purpose of Divine Choice will manifest and make believers conquerors.
“Being with God is the peak of relationship and it makes Christians become supernatural.”

Adeboye said that to make a Divine Choice, a believer must “not just serve God casually, but must be done delightfully and excitedly so that it will trigger supernatural favour.

“He will silent every instrument of pain, shame and mockery over your life,” he said.

Adeboye also said that God often chose to accomplished his works through those the world regarded as “foolish, weak, unimpressive, or ordinary,’’ but who would diligently call on God for everything.

According to him, God has two main purposes for doing that: “First of all, to accomplish great things through unexceptional people, and to prove that the world’s wisdom is foolishness.’’
“And second, God’s people don’t have any reason to boast: They have no power to save themselves and no ability to serve Him apart from His strength and wisdom.
“God isn’t interested in impressive human talent and natural ability. He is looking for humble people, who are totally dependent upon Him, and willing to make themselves available for whatever He calls them to do,” he said.

According to him, “our God is all knowing, powerful and self-existing, hence making up His mind on anything does not have human influence or interference, therefore His Choice is always just.

Adeboye said that God’s choice is based on the finished work of calvary, which is also His divine provision.

To enjoy God’s provisions, the cleric urged Christians to recommit themselves to pleasing God and work out their salvation.
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Ken4Christ:
He was righteous before God in the days he lived.

did he make heaven?

jesusjnr:
THE RICH MAN'S MESSAGE FROM HELL

Jesus said:

"There was a certain
rich man, which was
clothed in purple and
fine linen, and fared
sumptuously every
day: And there was a
certain beggar
named Lazarus,
which was laid at his
gate, full of sores, And desiring to be
fed with the crumb
which fell from the
rich man's table:
moreover the dogs
came and licked his sores. And it came to pass,
that the beggar died,
and was carried by
the angels into
Abraham's bosom:
the rich man also died, and was
buried; And in hell he lift up
his eyes, being in
torments, and seeth
Abraham afar off,
and Lazarus in his
bosom. And he cried and
said, Father
Abraham, have
mercy on me, and
send Lazarus, that
he may dip the tip of his finger in water,
and cool my tongue;
for I am tormented in
this flame. But Abraham said,
Son, remember that
thou in thy lifetime
receivedst thy good
things, and likewise
Lazarus evil things: but now he is
comforted, and thou
art tormented.
And beside all this, between us is a great
gulf fixed: so that they which would pass
from hence to you cannot; neither
can they pass to us from thence.
Then he said, I pray thee therefore,
father, that thou wouldest send him
to my father's house: For I have five
brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest
they also come into this place of torment.
Abraham saith unto him, they have Moses
and the prophets; let them hear them.
And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one
went unto them from the dead, they will
repent.
And he said unto him, if they hear not Moses
and the prophets, neither will they be
persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:19-31.(KJV).

did lazarus in this scrupture make heaven, was he a christian?

Does these men know how many billion of people all over the world who are worshipping christ by the name Jesus?
Do they think that by one or two written articles they can just get people refute that name like that?

Let them keep chasing wild goose, na dem go tire

Zoharariel:
I equally commend you for letting me know that I need your Holy Spirit to be able to interpret all the mumbo-jumbo in the Bible - Didirin!

the last time i checked, i did not mention holy spirit in my comment, i dont know where you are getting that from.
I have already diagnose you like this.

This is truly a sign that you have a slight mental disorder somewhere and you know what?
Its a waste of time debating with people like you, but i have passed my message to you already.
Get out and go check yourself

Zoharariel:
Mr. Man, how long will it take you to dispute the facts that I posted on your thread?

If all your G.Os combined (including all the Angels of Yahweh in heaven) can dispute these facts before December 25, 2018, walahi - I agree to grow horns & tail.

Anyways, I'm still waiting.

you have not presented any fact, you only displayed your ignorance of the scripture.

Well, i keep saying one thing, only educated people will understand that the area of knowledge you were never aquinted to, you cannot say anything categorically about it until you have a complete study and understanding of that area.

If your intention was to ask questions, ask questions. Quit mocking what you do not understand or you are seen as a mad man.

Better still, if you belong to a religion focus on your own holy book where you understand and leave the bible alone which you do not understand, it will make you a sound person.

Every book of the bible were written in different era or time not at the same time,though some of the books were written by one person. For instance, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus and numbers were written by Moses, inspite of that, moses did not write all these books at once, He wrote them at different times and some of each stories where based on different situations according to what conspired at the moment of that time .
So, for you coming to quote Exodus saying .

Exodus 34:7 says - “Visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation”.

Then you go to Ezekiel and say

but Contrary to this, the Book of Ezekiel (18:20) says - “Son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall father bear the iniquity of the son:

Your intention is trying to bring contradiction where it does not exist.

The story situation behind Exodus 34:7 is not the situation behind Ezekiel 18:20 therefore you cannot use the two verses as basis for comparison to see whether there are contradictions or not.

Trying to do that will only reveal your ignorance or mental state to anyone who have read and understood the two books and their different situations.

For me, i will rather advice you, leave bible alone and focus on something you can understand properly

Or if you are truly interested to know, take another six years or more and study the bible back to back(which you cant do alone and need some to help you out)before you can come out with any argument.

Because you are far lost

I remember, through out my 5 years stay in school as an undergraduate never for once did i see any student putting on white garment and bare footed on sunday morning saying he or she was going to church from the hostel.
But looking at the streets of our town today, i can see them bare footed with white garment walking distances to church.
Does that mean that there are no undergraduates among these people?

I will really like to have a good conversation and ask questions from a good thinking people of this white garment group, why do they do the things they do?

bedspread:
Tithes, offerings , Seeds in my place of Worship is used to fund Crusades, open new branches, send Ministers on Missionary journeys, etc

to achieve what at the long run?

OriginalKogiboy:
I christian can b influence by demon but can not be posses. Holyspirit and demon can not stay together. but during a heated deliverance service. the holispirit shift and perfect the work of delivrance in an aflicted christian. I ONCE CASTED OUT DEMON FROM AN AFLICTED PASTOR.

it wasnt demon you casted, he was temporarily schizophrenic.
A lot of people especially women who are so emotional find themselves in that condition in the intense of church service, it is temporary emotional and psychological disorder where the individual appear to see or hear things they think they are real.

There were also deliverance which were arranged by pastors with the person who is delivered we have done that one before, it is not hidden anymore.

lensdam:
This is a question that is causing arguement in the body of Christ if possible a Christian can be possess by the devil or not.

Your contribution is highly welcome on this thread.

it is not possible.

1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

All christians have confessed christ. The moment anyone confess christ there is automatic spirit of God in that person, this is against the believe that a christian can be possessed with demon.

Therefore that is not possible

1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children,and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

This is referring to every believer of christ, so long you believe.

wellyjohn:
There is a growing number of scholars who are questioning the historical existence of Jesus .Caesar’s Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus is another book eager to highlight the deceptive business of religion and the action of the Romans to create Jesus . This book ” rocks our understanding of Christian history as it reveals that Jesus was a fictional character portrayed in four Gospels written not by Christians but Romans. This Flavian Signature edition adds Atwill’s latest discoveries of numerous parallel events in sequence which ultimately reveal the identity of the true authors of the Gospels”

https://www.awakenedafricans.com/2018/09/23/the-romans-invented-jesus-there-is-no-historical-jesus/

how did the fictional character called Jesus understood 2000 years ago(long before christianity was taken to Rome) that christianity was going to dominate the world today according to this parable of Jesus which ofcourse is a concrete historical documentation againt your deluded postion?

Matthew 13:31 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven(christianity) is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:
13:32 Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, IT IS THE GREATEST AMONG THE HERBS, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.

How did the fictional character knew that christianity someday was going to be the greatest among the herbs which it is today?

Google it, what religion is the greatest in number of adherents today?

Ofcourse, no other religion but christianity

EmpresFIDEL:
if old testament is not connected to our Christian life, them why is it part of the Bible?

thank God you used the word connected, meaning something is connecting two different things.
For your information, the only thing that connect the old covenant from the new covenant is the fact that it is one God giving the covenants.
The old covenant which includes tithing terminates with Jesus christ.
Or was there anywhere Jesus christ bothered christians in the new testament with tithing ?

You people will go and extract laws in the old testament saying it is the same bible meanwhile old testament was Torah not bible or is it because the two books(Torah and bible )are combined to form what is known as bible today ?
The reason for the combination was to let us know where christianity is coming from and differentiate it from the old covenant when we read.

How this one wan take remove buhari?

EmpresFIDEL:
hahahaha seriously? my dear you are very far behind.

say something about what i just revealed to you lets see

chivic:
Is just like saying that the poor need your tax than government. Let's be careful with the gospel we preach.Ofcause your statement seems good and logical ,but things of God can't be logically applied

learn not to use generalised terms like things of God.

What do you mean by things of God? be specific .

Because, scriptures made us to understand that God owns everthing.

"The earth is the lords and it fullness thereof "

And talking about whether scriptures are logically applied, have you not read Jesus saying in

John 8:7 ...He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

they left one by one without stoning because by logical reasoning they understood at that point that they commit sin too as humans.

What do you call the thing Jesus used for that judgement, things of the devil?

You better know what things of God is all about, it encompasses everything.
There is nothing he created that is unclean.

EmpresFIDEL:
if you are a Christian you should understand that, in numbers 18 vs 21 it Say's "

numbers 18 vs 21 isn't christianity therefore it is not for christians.

Christianity in the bible begins from the book of act of the apostles

mcemmy0z:
Let church decide that

church is not paying him and should not be the one to decide how he manage his finance

nyovest300:
who told you? pls dont confuse him the tithe is Gods own now this is why we sre usually caught up in the middle cause we do the right thing witha a wrong means.....God said we should give i/410 of our earnings that is to say into the church so if you want to help others do it out of your own money and not the one of God so if you have been doing that ever since my bro you have not been paying your tithe so SIT UP and do the right thing

next time, when you are preaching this kinda semon back it up with scriptures, dont be saying things you dont know about

EmpresFIDEL:
if you know its important to help someone with your tithe, then tell your pastor or priest b4 using it for that purpose.

why should i tell him, na him help me huzzle the money?

mcemmy0z:
Let church decide that

who said so?
The church cannot decide for anyone how to spend their money

tripplephi:
Am SHOCKED that such question can exist when there is so MUCH KNOWLEDGE OF THE WORD OF GOD everywhere.

Is the organisation GOD'S REPRESENTATIVE INSTITUTE?

Your funny question is like a university of Lagos Medical student asking if he can write exam in any other university with the same department.

I am really shocked at your question but I guess you are not really serious.

When you MARRY, so do show love to your wife or to all wives in the world?

GOD IS ONE, GOD HAS A SYSTEM AND PLACE WHERE HIS WORSHIPERS ASSEMBLE, IT IS CALLED THE CHURCH..... It would be confusion for the same God to have different means of Approach because it would mean He is not consistent with His nature. Also, TITHE is really not an ISSUE as daddy freeze and others have been barking about... TITHE BEGAN BEFORE THE LAW even in the book of Genesis.... so it is NOT a question OF WHETHER TO PAY OR NOT.... it is simply a system of how God's GOVERNMENT WORKS.

THE KINGDOM OF GOD is a REAL KINGDOM and every KINGDOM has taxes and levis BUT It seems that we have outgrown the KINGDOM system and forgotten it exists simply because we are under a PRESIDENTIAL RULE. NONETHELESS, God is not mocked, and PAYING TITHE or NOT PAYING will not guarantee you a place in heaven,

SO PLEASE STUDY YOUR BIBLE TO CONFIRM WHAT I HAVE SAID, so that no one will come here with MINDLESS CHATTER without scriptural references. WE DO NOT SERVE A KING BY THOUGHTS OR FEELINGS OR EMPATHY OR SYMPATHY.... WE SIMPLY FOLLOW THE LAID DOWN PRINCIPLES OF HOW HE WANTS TO BE SERVED.

TITHE IS NOT A DONATION, NEITHER IS IT ALMS or GIFT

are pastors king of the kingdom of God?
If not, why should they collect tax called tithe?

The poor deserves the money more than the church, give it to the poor

donnie:
Okay, Continue... What you refuse to learn by wise counsel, you will learn when someone decides to exercise his rights against malicious publications.

You're bold to publish because you know pastor Chris will "leave it for God" ba? One day monkey go go market, e no go return.

look,pastor chris is a public figure that means anyone can say anything about him and he has left it for God since, i dont know what your own is?

vaxx:
when the name is changing so will be his attribute becaise any new name coined will be adding more definition or subtracting from the original name.That is how society work.


Certainly . Because when you study the language epsiistmologically, you will realise yeshua was his Hebrew name. Meaning Jesus’ is not just an innocent anglicization, it’s a deliberate mangling of his name, in an effort to co-opt his identity into the Romanized version..

Yeshua militated his whole life against Greco-Roman corruption thru out entire gospel. So when the bible reported he was executed by Romans. he was saddled with a Romanized name, as a part of a campaign to incorporate him into a Euro-gentile hybrid faith; a deliberate and awful insult to him and what he stood for.

Yes, Yeshua is absolutely the better name. And calling him jesus means another thing entirely.

Euro-gentile hybrid faith, What's that?
It sound as something not part of the jewish worship.

Is is true that yeshua did not accept both the jews and the gentiles alike?

eyinjuege:
You all seem to forget these children are adults. Its not compulsory they have a loud wedding, and the children could have stood their ground to have their mother present at their wedding.

even adults can be intimidated tòo, do you know that?

donnie:
But you published it.

so i should not publish it because it involve your pastor

vaxx:
Words do not always fit concepts and concepts do not often fit words. Words change, concepts change; and oftentimes the underlying concept changes . So If yhwh is abrogated to something like ykpu become the daily used . Then characteristic of yhwh will change alongside. Do you agree?

characteristics will only change when concept changes.
But so long the evolved or new generation to come maintain the concept of the original scriptures, then there is nothing to fear. There will be systematic transfer of the character of YHWH to whatever YKPU and worship continues forever

You should know by now jesus is not the same thing as yeshua and hence characters can't be the same.

are you saying that the hebrew yeshua was not referring to jesus of today?

donnie:
You're sick and a bloody liar. Your sins will soon find you out. Source ko, stew ni.

You're angry that God has vindicated the man of God. Now you want to play with fire.

calm down, i didn't write the story

vaxx:
Do you think YHWH name will soon be abrogated.

not so soon.
But trust humans, someone along the line in the future will definitely change it to YKPU or something. But the person who is bearing the name will still remain the same person forever.

There will never be a time humans will not recognise that there was a creator