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Rohr should be sacked immediately after the match. I dont care if we win or not. He has lost it and that is all It is as if he is trying to sabotage our chances of been succesful. I forsee that rohr may not take us to the world cup. A few months to the world cup, and nff might decide to sack him as they would only have a few months to go. I mean it. Around August next year they can afford to pay the few months that are left. Rohr is simply a horrible coach without any concrete plan. I forsee this match might end in a draw with the nonsense we are going to play. If we win it will be by luck or some momment of individual brillliance and thats all. Is ROHR DELIBRATELY TRYING TO MAKE US LOOSE OR INFERIOR. THE AVERAGE NIGERIAN CANNOT CONNECT WITH OUT NATIONAL TEAM AGAIN IT DOES NOT LOOK AS IF NIGERIA IS pLAYING. IT IS AS IF NIGERIA IS NOW TOGO THAT WILL BE HAppY WITH A QUATER FINAL AppEARANCE IN THE NATIONS CUp AND WORLD CUp GROUp STAGE EXIT. ROHR SHOULD LEAVE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 |
komekn:What is your opinion of Akinkunmi amoo. He is doing well in hammarby of Sweden a false 9/ attacking midfielder who plays like mess I. Many clubs are after him. I said his playing style is like Messi not that he is at messi level |
JohnBullMySon:Rohr should start with chukwueze and ejuke at the alsame time as wingers in a 4 2 3 1 formation. Ejuke can also drift into midfield and help iwobi with 3 creative players running and passing at their defense cape verde will be forced to defend. I mean chukwueze, ejuke and iwobi will be too much for their players to contain. But I doubt rohrs competence. |
charlesemeka85:Men he is right, we need creative players who can dribble and make creative passes. IT IS VERY VERY OBVIOUS WE NEED A FORWARD (MIDFIELDER, STRIKER JUST ANY TYpE OF FORWARD) THAT IS CREATIVE THAT IS WHY pLAYERS LIKE sadiq umar, nwakali, alhassan yusuf, micheal olise etc will remain relevant to us. THE SKILL SET IS BADLY NEEDED. IF I WAS ROHR I WILL LOOK FOR pLAYERS WITH THAT SKILL SET TO pLAY FOR US EJUKE AND CHUKWUEZE CANNOT BE THE ONLY ONES. WE NEED pLAYERS LIKE THIS ALL OVER. HE SHOULD INVITE THEM AND LET THEM pLAY THE NONSENSE OR EXCELLENCE OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO pLAY TOLERATE THEIR NONSENSE AND BRING IN SENSE OUT OF IT. WE NEED CREATIVE pLAYERS BADLY SEE THE SENSE IN WHAT HE IS SAYING |
jihday:Yeah because of his old age but he often came in in the second half and took control of the midfield and the whole game. Believe you me we were nonsense without kanu in 2006 to 2010 and this is when the decline in our playing set in ie from 2006. Kanu was one of the last of the golden generation. The only player with technique, skill and creativity in the national team for around 3 to 4 years. The other players were just running around and sitting there for Kanu to rescue them |
Kog45:Liar Liar Liar In the 2006 nations cup when we played Senegal Kanu saved us when we came in. I watched the match with my naked eyes. Even in the 2008 nations cup he provided our creativity in midfield. He made an assist for femi martins and took control of the midfield in that match I insist after Okocha left it was kanu in our midfield between 2006 and 2010. please stop telling lies |
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charlesemeka85:Look, club form and national team form is not the same. How the Super eagles play is the most important. Result, style of play, victories. What if we get to the semifinal of the world cup and win the nations cup with Uzoho making a lot of saves for us. Who will care about where he plays. Westerhoofs managerial style works Okay moses simon is our best winger since he plays so well in France. also going by todays standards, Rashidi Yekeni is a third rate striker since he was in the portuguese 2nd division. In fact, the usa 94 team should not have beaten a star studed Bulgarian team that had players in Barcelona and other teams in Europe since our players were mediocre by your standards. You see getting a good club is a product of time. IN time Uzoho might get a better club. There is even this adebayo guy in Israel In fact, enyeama was in the Isreali league befor he moved to France. Getting a good club is just advertisement and time. These foreign born players have better agents thats all. Wilfred Agbonivbare has kept in Spain before so there is nothing new in what Uzoho is doing Rohr is just not an intelligent man and i dont blame him anymore His iq is pedestrain or maybe low and it shows in the nonsense he is doing |
Kog45:In fact Wilfred agbinav are played for 3 years in la liga and 3 years in the second division with more than 167 matches for deportivo but he was benched for rufai with a less successful career in Europe by westerhoof. What u play in the national team is what matters most. So what aboutokoye clubform if uzoho is better than him so be it. Nigeria is a footballing nation and rohr cowardice cannot change it |
Kog45:Kanu was the only thing in our midfield between 2006 and 2010 when okocha left. In fact in this period he saved us from defeat time after time. The team when okocha left was kanu and insha Allah. Kanu even said the players had a psychological problem and I feel he is still right up till now |
TheLoneCitizen:They make low passes/crosses into the box 18 after dribbling. They cross they do not pass and are effective playing that way. High crosses are not a nec sdity. Ejuke and chukwueze can get the ball to the strikers |
Icon79:We have Alhassan Yusuf in Royal Antwerp in Belgium and our akinkunmi amoo in Sweden but we are fantasizing about what we don't have. I am not against foreign borns but why not appreciate what we have. The worst thing is that a lot of people here may not support akinkunmi amoo and alhassan Yusuf to be in the nation's cup team but yet fantasize about some foreign born not playing for us. A bird in hand is worth more than two in the bush. Let us appreciate and use what we have first |
Oasis001:So if penalties and one one one Ara a game of chance, penalties should also count as an assist. Saying penalties are not assists is pure ignorance |
Oasis001:I don't understand creating a chance is also a game of chance. I mean a chance can be missed a header or one on one can be missed. |
Oasis001:Victor osimhen has actually won some penalties and 3 of them have been converted. Osimhen work rate is a big issue. The problem is that stats don't show penalties won as an assist which is very funny. So it is 5 goals and 3 assists in 10 games if we count penalties won and in football it is important to win penalties |
drDoom3:If it is by players, then Mali can be considered one of the best African nations in football. But then, when it comes to ahievments and winning mentality, Nigeria is better. Senegal with all their stars has won the afcon only once and reached the semifinal only a few times while Nigeria has won it thrice and reached the semifinal 15 times. Besides, their players are not clearly better, they are just slightly better. If Nigeria plays Sengal, anything may happen. Chidera Ejuke might dribble everybody and score or Chukwueze might do something fantastic and we win the match. We are a tournament team that knows how to win when the chips are down but then, we also have a tactically weak and defeatest coach who is not tactically sound, does not understand our footballing history, and does not believe in his players. But i dont fear Sengal, camroon etc or any other African nation. We are overall at par with them Besides, football in general is funny. A player in the Turkish league might be better than a player in the English league and so their players been better is subjective and situational. The French assimiliate people from their colonies better and so their local players have better access to the French league. I know people dont beleive me but we rating a player by their league has limitations. And then tactics and coaching is more important in football than we think. Okay Burak Yilmaz spent all his carrer in Turkey but moved to lille in the French league in his 30's and im sure he is better than many attackers in the English league or other top 5 leagues. Anthony Nwakaeme is like Burak Yilmaz but i know you people wont see things my way. It is well |
Coiner:SaDIQ UMAR OF ALMERIA IS LIKE THAT. HE IS A BALL pLAYING SKILLFULL STRIKER THAT CAN EVEN pLAY DEFENSE SpLITTING pASSES. NO WONDER MAN CITY WERE INTERESTED IN HIM. IT MEANS SADIQ UMAR HAS A RARE SKILL SET |
ChrisKels:It is to Nigerias disadvantge we are not using him. We can win an afcon with his mecurial talents What is it about playing in Turkey and club ratings Home grown African talents are not well advertised playing in a good league is just a product of the agent you have. We need him badly but we are too blind to see that. I dont really understand us. He can create assists and score goals for us if we bring him into the team He is in monster form. These European players we venerate are overrated. In fact, in some cases except you are in a top team like real madrid, man u etc a very good player in the turkish or belgian league might be better than you. Being born in Africa puts one at a disadvantage. I have said my own |
TheGoodJoe:Yeah you are right. If we can use chidera ejuke, emmanuel dennis, Samuel Chukwueze, Taiwo Awoniyi and Sadiq Umar we can actually score goals against world class teams like France or Italy. I mean 3 or 4 goals but rohr may not use them like that because he does not beleive in the inherent talent of the average Nigerian. He will tell us they are not playing in Real Madrid and therefore, cannot score 3 goals against France. He will not pay attention to the fact that we scored 3 goals against Bulgaria (a star studded team that got to the semi finals of usa 94 and we also scored 3 goals against a star studded Spain with Raul in 1998. Most European coaches do not understand that we are a footballing nation on our own and despite our recent challenges, Nigerian football is Nigerian football and that is all. Westerhood understood this and gave us the confidence to take on the world by selecting the right players. I mean he preferred Yekini to Richard Owubokiri who was scoring goals all over Europe and in a better league You see we are Nigeria and the Nigerian concept of football needs to be respected thats all. |
TheLoneCitizen:Nwakali saved alcorcon from relegation last season. In fact, he got the award of player of the month for his club. He was their best player and he was their midfield general. The Spanish site talked about this. I will post the link when I'm less busy. It was because of this that huesca re called him and he now plays regularly for them |
Kelechi nwakali is developing nicely in SD huesca and the Spanish second division. I saw his last match and he played well. If he continues like this for a year or two he will make good progress. The former coach of Watford is his new coach in SD huesca. He is progressing. Anyway I hope ished he remained at alcorcon as he was their saviour there but then he is making a lot of progress in SD huesca. As per this afcon I think he should be left alone to develop his career in SD huesca but he should be in contention for the world cup squad. African home grown talent need a place to develop when they get to Europe and the Spanish second division is a perfect place for him. |
12large1:[url]https://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/ahmed-musa-where-next-after-west-bromwich-albion-snub/vdb3k21fu87y1lal52m0yajd0 [/url] Solace Chukwu on goal.com talked about Ahmed Musas limitations in an article here is a quotation from him "Musa is rapid still, but has never had the close control, associative play or decision-making to be a consistent threat at a high level when played wide" Note that these same issues are mentioned which are 1. His close control 2. Decision making 3. Associative play: which is his awareness of his team mates postion on the field of play in relation to his own and his ability to make telling passes to them. Here is another quotation on why he did not succeed in the premier league "Sure, his stint in the Premier League did not go so well, but there will be no one more keenly aware of his limitations as a player than the man himself. He quite simply was not good enough to make a mark in that league, and it showed on the handful of occasions he did pull on Leicester blue" So you see, Musa has limitations to his game he did not work on and with his loss of speed and old age, it has caught up with him. Against South Africa in the nations cup, his decision making was a problem again. Chidera Ejuke is tactically and technically better in many aspects of the game and is a finner footballer. |
charlesemeka85:Ok let us start the talk again for the sake of it. Who is better between Tim akinola and alhassan Yusuf of Royal Antwerp. |
IDENNAA:At least it's better than having Moses Simon, Ahmed Musa, onuachu and shehu Abdullah I in the team. At least they will bring value to the team. I pray it works. Rohr is confused and so if he does something right by adding quality to our midfield and wings let us be happy. If ademola lookman keeps Ahmed Musa out if the team and ejaria can add creativity to our midfield I will be happy. At least it will be an improvement. Although it's funny waiting for their switch before quality can be added to the team when other home grown talent is there. But Rohr is so dumb that taking this route could be the only way out. |
Embell:This is the problem. At national team level there are better players. Club form does not transform to the national team every time. This is because if style of play. Onuachu fits a particular style of play we don't have in the national team and Simon switches off when playing for us. We need players who play well for us and not just their club. They are different things. Some players simply don't fit into certain formations or play well in certain teams and Moses Simon and onuachu don't fit into our teams right now. Look, if you study maurinho and guardiola well, they only go for players that fits into their style of play and not necessarily the best players. Club form is good but overrated. Samuel kalu seems to fit into our national team than Moses simon. Don't get carried away with club form. Club form only matters if you can translate it into the national team |
Rohr will start our match with Moses Simon and Ahmed Musa and if iwobi gets injured he will use iheanacho as our creative midfielder. Liberia and those Small teams will fustrate him and we might draw or win by luck. Our coach is our greatest problem |
Tolulopefinest:Ahmed Musa, onuachu and Moses Simon needs to get out of the team immediately. They have little or nothing to offer. Emmanuel Dennis, nwakaeme, awoniyi, onyekuru etc should take their place. We also need more options in midfield. With covid u can have more than a 23 man squad. Mr rohr really needs help. Samuel kalu is of course better than Moses Simon. He is better when playing for Nigeria. Again our coach needs help. Salisu Yusuf should please help him |
elyte89:Ok we can organize 2 friendlies next year and try them out. Amaju pinick experiment should have been with Samson tijani set. Ok 15 is too much but we can play a friendly with 7 members of our recent u20 and under17 teams. There is some serious talent to be harvested from the hat set. I mean amoo, oladoye, Samson tijani, nnamdi ofirboh etc |
andrewbaba44:At least the best 5 players. We should try them out in friendlies and even in a few matches. Let us give them that chance. That will reduce the rate at which they dissapear and into obscurity |
Danielnino00:U see our youth teams must be integrated into the national team immediately and given 15 matches to prove themselves and market themselves to big clubs. But nff is too confused to understand this. Why win the u17 5 times and have their talents wasted. I say let us integrate them first and see what happens |
Joebie:You have a point. Onuachu and moses simon are good examples of players who do well in Europe but look horrible in the national team. Actually, a players perfomance depends on many things. In the history of Nigerian football we have had players who do not do well in Europe but do well in the national team. Ben iroha did not have a good career in Europe but was fantastic for Nigeria i remember his goal against ivory coast in afcon 94. clubs bench players for tactical reasons and not just the players ability |
WHY NIGERIAN PLAYERS STRUGGLE IN EUROPE Terem Moffi interview, why Nigerian layers struggle in euroPE "The way of conceiving football in Nigeria is very different from what one sees in Europe. There, when you learn the basics, you are already 16 or 17 years old, in Europe, we do that from an early age, at 6 or 7 years old. In Nigeria, we form a group and we play football, it’s that simple (laughs). Do you understand what I mean? That was really it, you come, you play football and around 16 or 17, you barely start to learn the basics. You have to be really talented and good to catch up and assimilate the technical, tactical and physical basics quickly". This is a quote from Terem Moffi in an interview. I mean with what he says, an 11 year old boy born in Europe has more knowledge of footballing tactics than a 17 year old boy. Nigerian or African players go to Europe and struggle because there is a 7 year old gap in their footballing education I beleive we have to improve on our coaching in order to produce our own messi and de bruynes There should be a strong emphasis on coaching. In fact, i think we need a coaching revelation from grassroots. Our football academies must devote more resources to coaching. One good coach can produce 15 good players and vice versa. We seem not to take coaching seriously from an early age |
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