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SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 4:26pm On Nov 16, 2021
Rohr should be sacked immediately after the match.
I dont care if we win or not.
He has lost it and that is all
It is as if he is trying to sabotage our chances of been succesful.
I forsee that rohr may not take us to the world cup.
A few months to the world cup, and nff might decide to sack him as they would only have a few months to go.
I mean it. Around August next year they can afford to pay the few months that are left.
Rohr is simply a horrible coach without any concrete plan.
I forsee this match might end in a draw with the nonsense we are going to play.
If we win it will be by luck or some momment of individual brillliance and thats all.
Is ROHR DELIBRATELY TRYING TO MAKE US LOOSE OR INFERIOR.
THE AVERAGE NIGERIAN CANNOT CONNECT WITH OUT NATIONAL TEAM AGAIN
IT DOES NOT LOOK AS IF NIGERIA IS pLAYING.
IT IS AS IF NIGERIA IS NOW TOGO THAT WILL BE HAppY WITH A QUATER FINAL AppEARANCE IN THE NATIONS CUp
AND WORLD CUp GROUp STAGE EXIT.
ROHR SHOULD LEAVE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 5:31pm On Nov 14, 2021
komekn:
He trained with U23 mostly to be honest, but even then he was not outstanding. Strong yes, super fast and technical I am sorry No.

There were better boys and younger than him there.

Those boys who were outstanding got promoted to the first team. Two defender CB went from U23 to the first team , when all three first CB got injured.

It's what you do in the youth teams that gives you a bridge to the first team. And then when you get the opportunity or chance do you utilize and make a name for yourself.

Saka got a chance at Arsenal as a 16 year old and claimed a permanent position he just turned 20 a month ago . And he has played 3 competitive season s in the EPL already and is a key player for Arsenal and England national team.

So your proposition about endless training and drills doesn't really cut it for me .

If l look at Liverpool Youth team , my prediction are for a certain 18 year old midfielder James Balagizi, to be the next big thing. It may not happen but that's my view .

A lot of the U23 players will train with the first team and if they impress they get in. Some do it immediately by some needs lots of drilling ( according to you )

In my opinion it's not so deep, managers have preferences and that shows in their selections.
What is your opinion of Akinkunmi amoo. He is doing well in hammarby of Sweden a false 9/ attacking midfielder who plays like mess I. Many clubs are after him.
I said his playing style is like Messi not that he is at messi level
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 3:12pm On Nov 14, 2021
JohnBullMySon:
The funny thing here is that, being realistic, Cape Verde's chances of winning that Tuesday match is almost zero. If you notice, our team mostly struggles against a team that came to draw. And honestly, you can't possibly thrash a team that came to defend. The only major problem with our team is that we miss clear chances a lot. Without those silly misses, we should be giving those small defensive minded African teams at least 2 nil.

Rohr's preferred tactic is counter attack, because we have excellent attackers, that's why it is difficult for big teams to overcome Nigeria. Once the game is equal in possession, the team finds it easy to score. But once the opponent is laid back, na wahala because we are not yet at that elite level of creativity to tear defences open easily. So if you sit back against Nigeria, you have a chance of winning or drawing. If any of those teams had tried to keep the defence line higher, trust me na 4-nil or above.

However, for Cape Verde, coming to Lagos to sit back, will be very difficult for them to do, even if the coach says so, given that they have more at stake and sitting back will more likely lead to a draw than a win. So their only option is to score an early goal, then sit back. But that will be a gamble for them, because Rohr's counter attack strategy could lead to a goal in their net and keep them attacking, which will result in more goals against them, trust me. So very likely Rohr will start Chukwueze or Ejuke.

The game will tilt to who scores the first and earliest goal. Nigeria is the favorite here, due to a deadlier attack. I only pray that Sierra Leone doesn't happen again. It's very unlikely though.
Rohr should start with chukwueze and ejuke at the alsame time as wingers in a 4 2 3 1 formation. Ejuke can also drift into midfield and help iwobi with 3 creative players running and passing at their defense cape verde will be forced to defend. I mean chukwueze, ejuke and iwobi will be too much for their players to contain. But I doubt rohrs competence.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 12:29am On Nov 14, 2021
charlesemeka85:
take up responsibility of dribbling the 22 players on the pitch cheesy cheesy cheesy
Men he is right, we need creative players who can dribble and make creative passes.
IT IS VERY VERY OBVIOUS
WE NEED A FORWARD (MIDFIELDER, STRIKER JUST ANY TYpE OF FORWARD) THAT IS CREATIVE
THAT IS WHY pLAYERS LIKE sadiq umar, nwakali, alhassan yusuf, micheal olise etc
will remain relevant to us.
THE SKILL SET IS BADLY NEEDED.
IF I WAS ROHR I WILL LOOK FOR pLAYERS WITH THAT SKILL SET TO pLAY FOR US
EJUKE AND CHUKWUEZE CANNOT BE THE ONLY ONES.
WE NEED pLAYERS LIKE THIS ALL OVER.
HE SHOULD INVITE THEM AND LET THEM pLAY THE NONSENSE OR EXCELLENCE OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO pLAY
TOLERATE THEIR NONSENSE AND BRING IN SENSE OUT OF IT.
WE NEED CREATIVE pLAYERS BADLY
SEE THE SENSE IN WHAT HE IS SAYING
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 11:23pm On Nov 13, 2021
jihday:
huh! Between 2006 and 2010 Kanu was barely starting games
Yeah because of his old age but he often
came in in the second half and took control of the midfield and the whole game.
Believe you me we were nonsense without kanu in 2006 to 2010 and this is when the decline
in our playing set in ie from 2006. Kanu was one of the last of the golden generation.
The only player with technique, skill and creativity in the national team for around 3 to 4 years.
The other players were just running around and sitting there for Kanu to rescue them
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 11:12pm On Nov 13, 2021
Kog45:
I rated Kanu highly club wise but in super eagles he lost it in 2006.

Kanu scored 20 goals in 143 apoearances for Portsmouth not 20 goals in a season.
Liar Liar Liar
In the 2006 nations cup when we played Senegal Kanu saved us when we came in.
I watched the match with my naked eyes.
Even in the 2008 nations cup he provided our creativity in midfield.
He made an assist for femi martins and took control of the midfield in that match
I insist after Okocha left it was kanu in our midfield between 2006 and 2010.
please stop telling lies
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 10:48pm On Nov 13, 2021
Philosopher1979:
Look, club form and national team form is not the same.
How the Super eagles play is the most important.
Result, style of play, victories.
What if we get to the semifinal of the world cup and win the nations cup
with Uzoho making a lot of saves for us.
Who will care about where he plays.
Westerhoofs managerial style works
Okay moses simon is our best winger since he plays so well in France.
also going by todays standards, Rashidi Yekeni is a third rate striker
since he was in the portuguese 2nd division.
In fact, the usa 94 team should not have beaten a star studed Bulgarian team
that had players in Barcelona and other teams in Europe since our players were mediocre by your standards.
You see getting a good club is a product of time. IN time Uzoho might get a better club.
There is even this adebayo guy in Israel
In fact, enyeama was in the Isreali league befor he moved to France.
Getting a good club is just advertisement and time.
These foreign born players have better agents thats all.
Wilfred Agbonivbare has kept in Spain before so there is nothing new in what Uzoho is doing
Rohr is just not an intelligent man and i dont blame him anymore
His iq is pedestrain or maybe low and it shows in the nonsense he is doing
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 10:45pm On Nov 13, 2021
charlesemeka85:
MANY HERE DONT SEE ANYHTING GOOD ABOUT THE GUY cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

DEY PREFER UZOHO WHO IS PLAYING IN NORTHERN CYPRUS cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Look, club form and national team form is not the same.
How the Super eagles play is the most important.
Result, style of play, victories.
What if we get to the semifinal of the world cup and win the nations cup
with Uzoho making a lot of saves for us.
Who will care about where he plays.
Westerhoofs managerial style works
Okay moses simon is our best winger since he plays so well in France.
also going by todays standards, Rashidi Yekeni is a third rate striker
since he was in the portuguese 2nd division.
In fact, the usa 94 team should not have beaten a star studed Bulgarian team
that had players in Barcelona and other teams in Europe since our players were mediocre by your standards.
You see getting a good club is a product of time. IN time Uzoho might get a better club.
There is even this adebayo guy in Israel
In fact, enyeama was in the Isreali league befor he moved to France.
Getting a good club is just advertisement and time.
These foreign born players have better agents thats all.
Wilfred Agbonivbare has kept in Spain before so there is nothing new in what Uzoho is doing
Rohr is just not an intelligent man and i dont blame him anymore
His iq is pedestrain or maybe low and it shows in the nonsense he is doing
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 10:30pm On Nov 13, 2021
Kog45:
Wilfred Agbonavbare played for Rayo Valecano,later Peter Rufai Deportivo La corona and young Uzoho with two la liga matches.

Hope to see Okoye nailing Watford number one.
In fact Wilfred agbinav are played for 3 years in la liga and 3 years in the second division with more than 167 matches for deportivo but he was benched for rufai with a less successful career in Europe by westerhoof.
What u play in the national team is what matters most. So what aboutokoye clubform if uzoho is better than him so be it.
Nigeria is a footballing nation and rohr cowardice cannot change it
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 9:46pm On Nov 13, 2021
Kog45:
When Okocha and Kanu were picking matches to play and we paid dearly for it.

Really surprised seeing Kanu played till 2010,he lost his mojo back in 2006 but keeping on getting preferential treatment just like what Ahmed Musa is enjoying now.
Kanu was the only thing in our midfield between 2006 and 2010 when okocha left. In fact in this period he saved us from defeat time after time. The team when okocha left was kanu and insha Allah.
Kanu even said the players had a psychological problem and I feel he is still right up till now
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 5:53pm On Nov 13, 2021
TheLoneCitizen:
There's no truth in this.
They make low passes/crosses into the box 18 after dribbling. They cross they do not pass and are effective playing that way.
High crosses are not a nec sdity. Ejuke and chukwueze can get the ball to the strikers
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 9:23pm On Nov 12, 2021
Icon79:
Again, no less than 2 Nigerian born players (Okafor and Akanji) in this Switzerland team. And that Okafor guy seems to be a good player, he just started the move that gave Switzerland a goal against Italy. And he’s been literally a thorn on Italian defense so far.

Gosh, who did this to ushuh


O pari
We have Alhassan Yusuf in Royal Antwerp in Belgium and our akinkunmi amoo in Sweden but we are fantasizing about what we don't have. I am not against foreign borns but why not appreciate what we have. The worst thing is that a lot of people here may not support akinkunmi amoo and alhassan Yusuf to be in the nation's cup team but yet fantasize about some foreign born not playing for us.
A bird in hand is worth more than two in the bush. Let us appreciate and use what we have first
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 9:44am On Nov 12, 2021
Oasis001:
grin

Exactly.
So if penalties and one one one Ara a game of chance, penalties should also count as an assist. Saying penalties are not assists is pure ignorance
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 9:37am On Nov 12, 2021
Oasis001:
cheesy

...... LMFAO.

You don kuku give am the Assists yourself. PK is a game of chance, it can be missed, guess you right?

NB: chances created and Assists ain't the same.
I don't understand creating a chance is also a game of chance. I mean a chance can be missed a header or one on one can be missed.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 9:19am On Nov 12, 2021
Oasis001:
Take it easy. Must we overhype our Players? Haller has 7 Goals, 3 Assists in 12 Matches in the League already. Oops! Eredivisie is a Farmer's League..... but he has scored 7 Goals in 4 Matches in UCL also nau.

Osimhen so far only has 5 Goals in the League with no Assist in 10 Games, and 4 Goals in 3 Matches in UEL. Osimhen is doing fine and we should rather pray he's injury free and keep up with his Form.
Victor osimhen has actually won some penalties and 3 of them have been converted. Osimhen work rate is a big issue. The problem is that stats don't show penalties won as an assist which is very funny. So it is 5 goals and 3 assists in 10 games if we count penalties won and in football it is important to win penalties
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 4:07am On Nov 12, 2021
drDoom3:
Sarr is good. Diatta too. Senegal have young strikers too, Habib Diallo was dragging highest goalscorer with Osimhen in Ligue 1 and he's young too. Boulaye Dia is doing it with Villarreal this season. Niang and Diagne are also decent back ups.

Where Senegal really edges us though is in defense. You have K2 who is a world class CB, along with Abdou Diallo competing in a star studded PSG side. Bouna Sarr is at Bayern, Kouyate is at Crystal Palace. Ballo-Toure who is one of the best young fullbacks in Serie A currently at RB. You then have the best goalkeeper in the world currently in goal. Complete backline.

My only problem with Senegal is their coach. The guy is disciplined, passionate etc, but he isn't tactically sound. It has been exposed multiple times, today for example. He is basically a younger version of Rohr tactically. If Senegal can get themselves a coach on the level of Belmadi tactically, they will enter top 10 globally in no time because the talents are there.
If it is by players, then Mali can be considered one of the best African nations in football. But then, when it comes to ahievments and winning mentality, Nigeria is better. Senegal with all their stars has won the afcon only once and reached the semifinal only a few times while Nigeria has won it thrice and reached the semifinal 15 times. Besides, their players are not clearly better, they are just slightly better.
If Nigeria plays Sengal, anything may happen. Chidera Ejuke might dribble everybody and score or Chukwueze might do something fantastic and we win the match.
We are a tournament team that knows how to win when the chips are down but then, we also have a tactically weak
and defeatest coach who is not tactically sound, does not understand our footballing history, and does not believe in his players.
But i dont fear Sengal, camroon etc or any other African nation.
We are overall at par with them

Besides, football in general is funny. A player in the Turkish league might be better than a player
in the English league and so their players been better is subjective and situational.
The French assimiliate people from their colonies better and so their local players have better access to the
French league.
I know people dont beleive me but we rating a player by their league has limitations.
And then tactics and coaching is more important in football than we think.
Okay Burak Yilmaz spent all his carrer in Turkey but moved to lille in the French league in his 30's
and im sure he is better than many attackers in the English league or other top 5 leagues.
Anthony Nwakaeme is like Burak Yilmaz but i know you people wont see things my way. It is well
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester United Vs Manchester City (0 - 2) On 6th November 2021 by Philosopher1979: 3:17pm On Nov 06, 2021
Coiner:
Yes I agree. They need a good finisher. Someone who can deliver 20 to 30 goals every season. But my point is, it doesn't have to be an out and out striker.

See Salah, Mane, they give you goals from the wing. City just need a clinical finisher.

As for Hary Kane, if you watch his game well you will notice he's a different breed of striker. Combines good finishing with dropping deep to get and distribute the ball. Aguero is a great example. Such Strikers are what Pep need. And they are very rare.
SaDIQ UMAR OF ALMERIA IS LIKE THAT. HE IS A BALL pLAYING SKILLFULL STRIKER THAT CAN EVEN pLAY DEFENSE SpLITTING pASSES.
NO WONDER MAN CITY WERE INTERESTED IN HIM.
IT MEANS SADIQ UMAR HAS A RARE SKILL SET
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 3:11pm On Nov 06, 2021
ChrisKels:
I wish him the best, but he should concentrate on his club career.
It is to Nigerias disadvantge we are not using him.
We can win an afcon with his mecurial talents
What is it about playing in Turkey and club ratings
Home grown African talents are not well advertised
playing in a good league is just a product of the agent you have.
We need him badly but we are too blind to see that.
I dont really understand us.
He can create assists and score goals for us if we bring him into the team
He is in monster form.
These European players we venerate are overrated.
In fact, in some cases except you are in a top team like real madrid, man u etc
a very good player in the turkish or belgian league might be better than you.
Being born in Africa puts one at a disadvantage.
I have said my own
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 12:16pm On Nov 06, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
Rhor might slowly ease Ighalo in but if we are up against tough offensive sides, don't get shocked if Rhor starts Ighalo ahead of Osimhen.

If Rhor is going conservative, he will likely start Ighalo ahead because Ighalo suits that style more.

This is what happens when coaches that prefer a conservative approach against top teams. Remember how the likes of Lukaku, Mata, De Bruyne, Salah, and David Luiz did not suit Mourinho at Chelsea.

That is why Rhor can prefer to start Awaziem as a right-back ​over the likes of Aina and Ebuehi.


Mourinho is a defensive-minded manager and wants his back four to always worry about the worst-case scenario, rather than what will happen if everything goes right – which is the mentality of Luiz, and why he didn’t fit in at Chelsea... From Independent on Why Mourinho sold David Luiz

Rhor's mindset is that the opposition are better and the team must shape up to nullify their greatness. He does not coach with the mentality that his side is better.

I think this is the biggest reason why we should start sticking to indigenous coaches. No matter how we put it, we believe in ourselves more than these foreign coaches do.

We believe we are exceptional and can achieve great things. These white coaches see us as incapable.

So with all the flair and gifts of our players, Rhor does not see it. That is why he needs more defenders than midfielders.
Yeah you are right. If we can use chidera ejuke, emmanuel dennis, Samuel Chukwueze, Taiwo Awoniyi and Sadiq Umar we can actually score goals against world class teams like France or Italy. I mean 3 or 4 goals but rohr may not use them like that because he does not beleive in the inherent talent of the average Nigerian.
He will tell us they are not playing in Real Madrid and therefore, cannot score 3 goals against France.
He will not pay attention to the fact that we scored 3 goals against Bulgaria (a star studded team that got to the semi finals of usa 94 and we also scored 3 goals against a star studded Spain with Raul in 1998.
Most European coaches do not understand that we are a footballing nation on our own and despite our recent challenges,
Nigerian football is Nigerian football and that is all.
Westerhood understood this and gave us the confidence to take on the world by selecting the right players.
I mean he preferred Yekini to Richard Owubokiri who was scoring goals all over Europe and in a better league
You see we are Nigeria and the Nigerian concept of football needs to be respected thats all.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 10:00pm On Nov 05, 2021
TheLoneCitizen:
Just share the best of Nwakali, brother. No hate, but not a fan of the overhype.
Nwakali saved alcorcon from relegation last season. In fact, he got the award of player of the month for his club. He was their best player and he was their midfield general. The Spanish site talked about this. I will post the link when I'm less busy.
It was because of this that huesca re called him and he now plays regularly for them
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 5:27pm On Nov 05, 2021
Kelechi nwakali is developing nicely in SD huesca and the Spanish second division. I saw his last match and he played well. If he continues like this for a year or two he will make good progress.
The former coach of Watford is his new coach in SD huesca.
He is progressing.
Anyway I hope ished he remained at alcorcon as he was their saviour there but then he is making a lot of progress in SD huesca. As per this afcon I think he should be left alone to develop his career in SD huesca but he should be in contention for the world cup squad.
African home grown talent need a place to develop when they get to Europe and the Spanish second division is a perfect place for him.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 4:23am On Nov 05, 2021
12large1:
Musa played mostly as a striker for cska in his prime, while ejuke played as a winger. Nontheless, ejuke still has to produce (goals or assist) in order to reach musa status. Dribble dribble without end product isn’t it
[url]https://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/ahmed-musa-where-next-after-west-bromwich-albion-snub/vdb3k21fu87y1lal52m0yajd0

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Solace Chukwu on goal.com talked about Ahmed Musas limitations in an article
here is a quotation from him

"Musa is rapid still, but has never had the close control, associative play or decision-making to be a consistent threat at a high level when played wide"

Note that these same issues are mentioned which are
1. His close control
2. Decision making
3. Associative play: which is his awareness of his team mates postion on the field of play in relation to his own and his ability to make telling passes to them.

Here is another quotation on why he did not succeed in the premier league

"Sure, his stint in the Premier League did not go so well, but there will be no one more keenly aware of his limitations as a player than the man himself. He quite simply was not good enough to make a mark in that league, and it showed on the handful of occasions he did pull on Leicester blue"

So you see, Musa has limitations to his game he did not work on and with his loss of speed and old age, it has caught up with him.
Against South Africa in the nations cup, his decision making was a problem again.
Chidera Ejuke is tactically and technically better in many aspects of the game and is a finner footballer.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 10:48pm On Nov 03, 2021
charlesemeka85:
Tim akinola tipped to make the leap to arsenals first team. Aggressive,strong,fast and skillful box to box midfielder, very similar to Lille’s renato Sanchez. Rumour has it that he wants to rep Nigeria instead of England

One for the future
Ok let us start the talk again for the sake of it.
Who is better between Tim akinola and alhassan Yusuf of Royal Antwerp.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 4:28am On Nov 03, 2021
IDENNAA:
I guess Nwakali stopped being Nigerian. Na dem sabi
At least it's better than having Moses Simon, Ahmed Musa, onuachu and shehu Abdullah I in the team. At least they will bring value to the team.
I pray it works. Rohr is confused and so if he does something right by adding quality to our midfield and wings let us be happy.
If ademola lookman keeps Ahmed Musa out if the team and ejaria can add creativity to our midfield I will be happy.
At least it will be an improvement. Although it's funny waiting for their switch before quality can be added to the team when other home grown talent is there.
But Rohr is so dumb that taking this route could be the only way out.
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 10:23pm On Nov 01, 2021
Embell:
Both of them are not better than Onuachu and Moses even at club level, particularly this season, not to talk of in SE.
This is the problem. At national team level there are better players. Club form does not transform to the national team every time. This is because if style of play. Onuachu fits a particular style of play we don't have in the national team and Simon switches off when playing for us.
We need players who play well for us and not just their club. They are different things. Some players simply don't fit into certain formations or play well in certain teams and Moses Simon and onuachu don't fit into our teams right now.
Look, if you study maurinho and guardiola well, they only go for players that fits into their style of play and not necessarily the best players. Club form is good but overrated. Samuel kalu seems to fit into our national team than Moses simon. Don't get carried away with club form. Club form only matters if you can translate it into the national team
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 6:20pm On Nov 01, 2021
Rohr will start our match with Moses Simon and Ahmed Musa and if iwobi gets injured he will use iheanacho as our creative midfielder.
Liberia and those Small teams will fustrate him and we might draw or win by luck.
Our coach is our greatest problem
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 5:22pm On Nov 01, 2021
Tolulopefinest:
E don land grin grin grin
Ahmed Musa, onuachu and Moses Simon needs to get out of the team immediately. They have little or nothing to offer. Emmanuel Dennis, nwakaeme, awoniyi, onyekuru etc should take their place. We also need more options in midfield. With covid u can have more than a 23 man squad. Mr rohr really needs help.
Samuel kalu is of course better than Moses Simon. He is better when playing for Nigeria.
Again our coach needs help. Salisu Yusuf should please help him
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 4:56pm On Oct 31, 2021
elyte89:
15matches!... We DT hardly organize friendlies, so DT means we would av to depend on dem for almost 5years smiley
Ok we can organize 2 friendlies next year and try them out. Amaju pinick experiment should have been with Samson tijani set. Ok 15 is too much but we can play a friendly with 7 members of our recent u20 and under17 teams. There is some serious talent to be harvested from the hat set. I mean amoo, oladoye, Samson tijani, nnamdi ofirboh etc
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 3:54pm On Oct 31, 2021
andrewbaba44:
Our youth team must be integrated into the national team immediately?

It can’t be everyone at the youth teams nah ,we aren’t lacking good players in Europe like Zambia ,so even if the youth player is not doing well for his club or play for a good club the player should be integrated into the eagles immediately ?
At least the best 5 players. We should try them out in friendlies and even in a few matches. Let us give them that chance. That will reduce the rate at which they dissapear and into obscurity
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 3:41pm On Oct 31, 2021
Danielnino00:
I was quite impressed with that Mwepu guy yesterday... He was so full of energy, and quite intelligent on the ball..The goal is scored is definitely contender for goal of the season... These 3 players; Daka, Mwepu and Sakala were part of that Zambia u-20 class of 2017, and were integrated into their national team almost immediately...It's now paying off... They have moved to better teams, and getting a good coach for the Zambian national team looks to me like what's left for them to shine at international stage...
U see our youth teams must be integrated into the national team immediately and given 15 matches to prove themselves and market themselves to big clubs. But nff is too confused to understand this. Why win the u17 5 times and have their talents wasted. I say let us integrate them first and see what happens
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 7:09am On Oct 31, 2021
Joebie:
What you do at the club level only shows POTENTIAL of what you can do at the national level. Many of these players that are performing in Europe etc did not hit the ground running immediately there, it took the right coach, the right tactical set up, the right teammates to some extent for them to start performing. Enter the national team, you also need a good coach to see the POTENTIAL, and study why the players are excelling at the club level. Compare that to what he has at his disposal and try to fashion out a good formula that will utilise the strengths of the players before their success at club football can translate to national team football. And this can take time.

This explains why in the past we have had players who were never great at club football but were one of the best when they play in the national team. It is the same reason why you have players that are banging in Europe but you start to scratch your head why they cannot show similar prowess in the national team. my friends, Rohr has been our coach for over 5 years now. He has broken the record of the longest serving coach in Super Eagles history if I am not mistaking. I saw the signs long that the coach could not take us forward.

This is not the time for this player vs that player. We cannot afford to miss the next WC. We have to do anything possible. Just because Ighalo now plays in Saudi Arabia does not necessarily mean he has lost form and he is worse than those playing in Germany etc. it is not necessarily a player comparison thing. It is a matter of if we TRUST our coach to make new additions to the team today that will immediately translate to success? I see us moving to the next round of qualification, but I will repeat again the next round will be very tricky. This is not the time for sentiments or playing player preference.

Nothing is guaranteed. But I will rather TRUST a guy who is still competitive and who has been there, done that most recently to make a sudden impact than another performing player who may need a series of games to show his potential in the national team. If we no qualify for world cup, na for here wailings go plenty. After qualification, dump Ighalo, and I don't care. But nothing is guaranteed either way. The Ighalo way is a reasonable gamble based on our prevailing circumstances.
You have a point. Onuachu and moses simon are good examples of players who do well
in Europe but look horrible in the national team.
Actually, a players perfomance depends on many things.
In the history of Nigerian football we have had players who do not do well
in Europe but do well in the national team.
Ben iroha did not have a good career in Europe but was fantastic for Nigeria
i remember his goal against ivory coast in afcon 94.
clubs bench players for tactical reasons and not just the players ability
SportsRe: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 4:46am On Oct 31, 2021
WHY NIGERIAN PLAYERS STRUGGLE IN EUROPE

Terem Moffi interview, why Nigerian layers struggle in euroPE

"The way of conceiving football in Nigeria is very different from what one sees in Europe. There, when you learn the basics, you are already 16 or 17 years old, in Europe, we do that from an early age, at 6 or 7 years old. In Nigeria, we form a group and we play football, it’s that simple (laughs). Do you understand what I mean? That was really it, you come, you play football and around 16 or 17, you barely start to learn the basics. You have to be really talented and good to catch up and assimilate the technical, tactical and physical basics quickly".

This is a quote from Terem Moffi in an interview. I mean with what he says, an 11 year old boy born
in Europe has more knowledge of footballing tactics than a 17 year old boy.
Nigerian or African players go to Europe and struggle because there is a 7 year old gap in their footballing education

I beleive we have to improve on our coaching in order to produce our own messi and de bruynes
There should be a strong emphasis on coaching. In fact, i think we need a coaching revelation from grassroots.
Our football academies must devote more resources to coaching.
One good coach can produce 15 good players and vice versa.
We seem not to take coaching seriously from an early age

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