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Politics › Re: What Is The Major Thing The SOUTH EAST Contribute To Nigeria's Economy? by plaetton: 9:26pm On Jul 10, 2016
krazykoons:
the type of commonsense that led to the waste of 3million lives or the type that makes them drug traffickers and gala sellers
Freedom is worth dying for, anytime.

When pushed to wall, what do you do?
Push back or break the wall?
Break the wall, for you, I guess.

Dying while fighting for freedom is the most honourable death there is.

That's something that I don't ever expect you understand.
It's not our fault if you're unable to understand.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Come And See: The Most Powerful Argument For The Existence Of God by plaetton: 9:11pm On Jul 10, 2016
4evergod2:
I think you are the one mistaken consciousness with awareness.

Consciousness is not what makds u know you are a boy or girl or that you can drive. Its way beyond that. Consciousness is your wake up moment in life. Example.....sperm meetd egg and implants and begins the process of becoming a baby. In that process at a point the heart begins to beat and we say the baby is alive but without consciousness the baby may well still assume he or she is not alive.

Example again.....science itself has repeatedly shown that there is consciousness even after someone has been certified as clinically dead. In these cases people who died and were brought back to life told those who brought them back all they saw them doing while they lay dead. It was like seeing everything from above or from a corner of the room

So how could they have accurately seen and known all this even in death?

You need to read up bro. Science is in the dark regarding consciousness.
You're just argued for argument's sake.
Nothing that wrote above remotely repudiates my earlier points.

Consciousness is the agglomeration of interactive information.
Even a computer, a non living object, retains interactive information even after it is turned off.

The scenario that you referred to above, even if true, supports the assertion that quantas of interactive information, when they agglomerate to a critical mathematical threshold, become independent of their source, whether that source is a biological entity or not.

This is what we call consciousness.
This is why the consciousness of a cockroach, a chimpanzee and a human being are different,.. simply because their levels of interactive information DIFFER.

Consciousness evolves in the way that , hand in hand with biological evolution.

You are slightly different person every day , because something, more interactive information is added to your consciousness every single day, every interaction.
Your consciousness is constantly evolving as your store of knowledge, your interactive information increases.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Come And See: The Most Powerful Argument For The Existence Of God by plaetton: 7:38pm On Jul 10, 2016
4evergod2:
Consciouness is absolutely beyond explanation.
Correction Sir.
That you don't know something ,or do not understand something, does not mean that it is beyond explanation.

Consciousness is the agglomeration of interactive information.

For example, at the most rudimentary level, once a cell begins to divide, copy and store genetic information, the information grows, interact, until a critical mathematical threshold is attained, whereupon, the cell exhibits forms of rudimentary consciousness.

A market is another example where consciousness evolves entirely on its own, once the interactive components (buyers and sellers) reach an interactive threshold.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Come And See: The Most Powerful Argument For The Existence Of God by plaetton: 7:25pm On Jul 10, 2016
4evergod2:
Consciouness is absolutely beyond explanation. Even if man evolved at what point did man become conscious? Did consciouness evolve too? Since it isnt tangible it could not have evolved and if there is no consciouness there can be no morality. Conciousness is the bedrock of morality.
I think you are mistaken conscience for consciousness.

Consciousness evolves.Take yourself , for example, when did you become conscious?
While in the womb or after you were born? At exactly what stage in your biological growth did you become conscious and self aware?

Would you say that your level of consciousness at 6months, 1 yr, 5 yrs , 8 yrs and now through adulthood have remained the same, or has evolved along with you biological development, environment, culture, education and social exposures ?

Everything evolves, my friend.
Change ( evolution) is the only CONSTANT in the universe.
Politics › Re: Governor Okorocha Bulldozes Imo PDP Secretariat by plaetton: 6:33pm On Jul 10, 2016
There goes our 16yr democracy, one despotic act after another.
Christianity Etc › Re: UN: Taking Children To Church Violates Their Human Rights by plaetton: 12:59pm On Jul 10, 2016
From what we see in Nigeria, nothing could be further from the truth.

If this document is genuine , it should naturally include all religions, not just Christianity.
Politics › Re: Dele Momodu: "I Don't Care If All Buhari's Appointments Come From Daura" by plaetton: 11:04pm On Jul 09, 2016
eph12:
Yea I agree with Mr Momodu but don't tell me you can only find competent and qualified people in one part of the country. If Mr President cares to look well he will find what he wants in every state of the country. But of course we won't even think or speak of this if the results start coming in thick and fast. That is the only antidote to tribal bias.
But we have 55 yrs of history to show us that nothing good has evee come out of NEPOTISM and northern hegemony.
Politics › Re: The TSA: How Buhari Nuked The Nigerian Economy by plaetton(op):
nnofaith:
skye bank is not having problems because of TSA. The problem of skye bank stems from insider loan abuse, that is why the entire BOARD HAD TO RESIGN.

I KNOW BECAUSE I WORK WITH SKYE.
Fair enough.
But as a banker, you should know that all the major banks have bad, even fraudulent loans in their portfolios.

All banks are highly leveraged to varying degrees.
But it takes a catastrophic event like the TSA implementation, the sudden withdrawal of about 3% equivalence of the nation's GDP from the banking system, to set off a rolling cascade of banking crisis and failures.

Consider that in 2008, the US Treasury had to pump in the equivalence of about 4.5% of its GDP into the banking system to save both the entire US economy and entire world from total economic collapse.

Now, imagine doing the exact opposite in Nigeria, a monoproduct economy, a generator economy, already tethering on the brink.
Look at it that way, and see the utter foolishness of that TSA implementation.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Really Possible To Be An Atheist And A Homophobe At The Same Time??? by plaetton: 3:13pm On Jul 08, 2016
Homophobia is a cultural bias. People, all people normally resent practices that are sacrilegious in their cultures .

Religious people add religion as just another reason to be homophobic, whereas, the real issue is culture.

Having said that, atheists are usually enlightened people who appreciate history as well as biology,and are therefore least likely hate or discriminate against homosexuals.
Politics › Re: NNPC Reports Monthly Profit Of N274m For The First Time In 15 Years - ThisDay by plaetton: 1:22pm On Jul 08, 2016
DelGardo:
Great!

We have seen that it is possible to bring change and progress. When the man said he will stabilise the industry they laughed. Because successive administrations failed to bring transparency and professionalism to management of the oil sector, they thought it was impossible.

We now have sincere leadership. Despite their determination to see this government fail, despite their un-belief and distractions, lies and mischief, we are making progress. Things can only get better!

May God strengthen Buhari and those he is working with to deliver the change we voted for.
In as much as I admire Kachikwu's management ability, using NNPC supposed first monthly profit in 15yrs to give credit to the Buhari government is very ignorant and laughable.

Have we forgotten that 15yrs of fuel SUBSIDY payments constituted a NEGATIVE on NNPC 's balance sheet?

With the removal or gradual fading of fuel SUBSIDY, NNPC has NO reason whatsoever to have NEGATIVE figures on its balance sheets.

It's simple arithmetic, duuuhhhhh! , nothing to do with Buhari's management competence, which we all know by now, is ZERO.
Politics › Re: Dasuki Indicts Jonathan In $15b Arms Deal by plaetton: 1:11pm On Jul 08, 2016
Another food for the zombies.

The tempo and frequency of the hitherto, weekly zombie DOPEFIX has increased to daily DOPEFIX. The figures have shot up exponentially as well , from $2b to now $15b.

It seems that the stronger the hunger pangs, the higher they notch up the volume on the propaganda DOPEFIX.

Zombies, let me ask you .

Na propaganda go fix your stomach infrastructure? huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Trending Now! Science Vs God -WHO WINS by plaetton: 7:31pm On Jul 07, 2016
Macelliot:
There is nothing like God vs science. God is science.
God is anything you want him/ it to be.
God is molded in the human imagination.
Christianity Etc › Re: Trending Now! Science Vs God -WHO WINS by plaetton: 7:29pm On Jul 07, 2016
[quote author=princeemmac post=47304613][/quote]Only a poorly educated person could write this.
Mostly likely a Nigerian. undecided
Politics › Re: We Will Fight Militants Spiritually If They Do Not Stop The Madness–cleric Fumes by plaetton: 4:07pm On Jul 07, 2016
Who gives these clowns microphones to speak in the first place ?
Politics › Re: Buhari And The "Hailing Hailers" - Majeed Dahiru by plaetton: 3:50pm On Jul 07, 2016
Reyginus:
That's the simple and logical truth. But the article only makes sense to simple and logical people. The majority of Nigerians exhibit a complex level of stupidity. This is not an insult.

To some persons, this country began to exist sixteen years ago. The more complex(in stupidity) take it down to 6 years forgetting that the targeted clueless one only reigned for 5 years. Propaganda is an Art of War. A very powerful one because the Animal(victim) thinks he's in control.

These are the products of a dysfunctional system of Education. A country where Education and Educating is viewed on the Ability to Pass Exams and people rewarded by this Ability and not what they do with it afterwards.

It's education. If you can educate people to your taste they can easily work with you. This is the internet. If people cannot make use of their brains I wonder why it's also difficult to research using the internet. I take it back. That's a paradox.

Like Reno Omokri posited, the best way to shut up a habitual complainant is to ask him for solutions The current man is not willing to answer that yet.
Epic! Sir Reyginus.
Simply epic.

When they say that Jonathan ruined Nigeria, I begin to wonder if there is another Nigeria which they are referring to. undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Oyedepo: "Nigeria’s Healing Is Taking Place Now" by plaetton:
Suigeneris93:
undecided


[size=18]Bullshit[/size]
Seconded.

Complete and insulting BULLSHYTE.

Food for Zombies.

Nice and clever way to prep up the Zombies for the coming HUNGER GAMES.
Politics › Re: Walk In To Barber's Shop And Listen To Radio If You Dont Have Power -buhari by plaetton: 1:29pm On Jul 07, 2016
ZUBY77:
Relax guys, he was referring to the Medieval Kins in the north.
I bet he don't know which century we are now.
... ..

He wants us to be listening to Lai Muhammed through the radio where we cannot counter whatever he says.
In Buhari's world, Germany is still divided into West Germany and East Germany.
Politics › Re: Eid-el-Fitr: FG Extends Public Holiday To Thursday July 7th by plaetton: 3:42pm On Jul 05, 2016
Every single holiday affects US economic output, and of course , their GDP.
Monthly and quarterly economic reports clearly show this. It's not rocket science.

Now, imagine a generator economy, tethering on the brinks of collapse, losing an entire week of economic output. shocked

Nigeria, forward to the past.
Business › Re: Skye Bank Management Takedown By The CBN: The Inside Story - Naijapromoter.com by plaetton: 3:04pm On Jul 05, 2016
Iamlordgee:
So.. What do you want us to do about this

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The sighting of the moon was Inconclusive
-INEC

The sighting of the moon has been adjourned till tomorrow
-Abuja High Court

The sighting of the moon was not altered, a committee will be set-up to be headed by Sen. David Mark (Chairman Senate committee on Observation)
-Senate

The moon has already been sighted tomorrow
-Lai Mohammed

The anomally in the crescentic illumna of the moon in the atmospheric galaxy is tantamount to more crinkum crankum & hoola-baloo
-Patrick Obahiagbon

The APC was the cause of the moon not sighted in Nigeria
-Fayose

We will create another moon for Nigerians
-APC

Due to none sighting of the Moon, the Board of the Ulamas has been dissolved.
-Presidency

We blew up the moon and we will blow up more moons
-Niger Delta Avengers

We are responsible for the absence of the moon in the sky
-Boko Haram

Those responsible for the missing moon will soon be apprehended and charged accordingly. We have evidence.
-EFCC

We dont want to sight the Moon
-Biafrans

We know where the moon is but we dont want to say.
-The US govt.
Happy holiday !!!
Nigeria 2016 ! The best description so far.

Out of ORDER, comes CHAOS.
Politics › Re: NNPC Is Now 'northern Nigeria Petroleum Company' - Nigerians Slam Buhari by plaetton: 2:52pm On Jul 05, 2016
Dereformer:
Do you think southern Nigeria will ever be united? I doubt. The type of hatred the Igbos and the Yorubas have for each other is unprecedented.
Some people are benefiting from this animosity and I believe the North is using divide and rule approach to deceive the south.

I keep saying it, any politician that succeeds in uniting the sw and the se should be giving a southern award.

The day the SE and SW embrace each other and form a new alliance towards self determination, Northern influences will stop.
I beg to disagree that the Igbos and Yorubas have great hatred for each.
The Yorubas and Igbos have 10x more in common than then what separates them.

It is in federal political arena that they are mutually suspicious of each other. And this mutual suspicion goes way back to the Awolowo, Ojukwu and Azikiwe era.

As an Igbo, my opinion is that Yoruba political elites milk the past negative events between Igbos and Yorubas for their own selfish benefits, for federal crumbs.
Since Yorubas are known to be clannish ( a very positive attribute, by the way), they tend to follow their political leaders to political perdition. grin

Then again, I am sure a Yoruba would equally say the same about Igbos and their political elites.
Politics › Re: NNPC Is Now 'northern Nigeria Petroleum Company' - Nigerians Slam Buhari by plaetton:
idupaul:
... because Northerners thrive when there is chaos in the system. .that's how they survive ..when thing work properly the north never likes it .
Whereas the above statement may be construed as being tribalistic, the GLARING FACTS of Nigeria's sordid history ATTESTS to it's VERACITY.

That both OBJ and GEJ united Nigeria by running truly pan-Nigerian administrations where merit took priority over tribe really really annoyed the northern elites.

That both OBJ and GEJ expanded the middle class ( dominated by southerners) really really annoyed the northern elites.

That both the OBJ and GEJ invested so much on education , Northern education especially, was taken as an unforgivable insult to the northern feudal elites.
How dare OBJ and GEJ remind them of the their glaring failures against their own people.

The irony is that the type of hatred that the northern elites have GEJ or anything related to GEJ administration is oddly directly proportional to the high level of attention GEJ paid to northern education and economic development.

Again, this might appear like a tribalistic rant, but let's do away with the political correctness and call a spade a spade. After all, Buhari and brethren have absolutely NO pretences about political correctness or their agenda.

Let's take a minute and reflect, for those old enough, that anytime things appear to be getting good in Nigeria , the northern elites intervene to take us back a few decades.

Look back at 1983, when this same Buhari committed treason against his fatherland by overthrowing a Democratic government, a growing and maturing democracy.
What happened to Nigeria thereafter ? undecided

Let's look back at 1993 when the whole nation united and voted for a new Democratic government, MKO Abiola.
Again, what happened next?
The same northern elites scuttle that peaceful transition that would have united Nigeria in more ways than imagined.

Then came Abacha, and the tyranny of that feudal Despot took Nigeria back another 2 decades.

Was it an accident that after POWER shifted to the South for the better part of the last 16years, that our economy began to grow, debts paid off, boost in education, boost in agriculture, boost in trade, the largest economic expansion since the colonial days, the largest expansion of the middle class ( the backbones of any economy) since the colonial era ? huh

Wow!
And what an odd coincidence (?) that the same Buhari is back, and is quickly taking Nigeria back to the LOCUST years, the years of hunger, despair and desolation, back to unbridled NEPOTISM, Despotism, Mediocrity and Feudal hegemony of security apparatus and resources.

What an odd, but very very sad coincidence indeed.
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Politics › Re: The TSA: How Buhari Nuked The Nigerian Economy by plaetton(op): 3:42pm On Jul 04, 2016
TSA nuclear bomb.

The fallout has began.

One bank down, many more to go.

https://www.nairaland.com/3205466/cbn-sacks-skye-banks-management
Politics › Re: N2.5bn In Maid's Account: Stella Oduah Denies Report by plaetton: 3:16pm On Jul 04, 2016
DonDiego:
How could you conclude from the bolded parts that she's guilty? Is that how shambolic your sense of judgement is? Anyone who is not partial/partisan would immediately read from those bolded parts of her comments that she's probably innocent and isn't scared to proclaim it to whoever cares to listen despite the gestapo methods of those who claim to fight corruption. A women who established and ran a multi-billion naire Nigerian oil and gas marketing company for no less than 20 years afterh having having worked for years in the NNPC has no business being scared of having a 'paltry' sum of 2.5 billion found in her account (never mind that Sahara Reporters in their usual method of embellishment claimed the money was found in a so-called maid's account.)

Bro, you really need to upgrade your critical thinking skills.
Obviously, his low comprehension skills didn't allow him to understand the point the lady was trying to make.
Politics › Re: N2.5bn In Maid's Account: Stella Oduah Denies Report by plaetton: 3:11pm On Jul 04, 2016
Like I pointed out yesterday, the Sahara Reports about Stella Odua was just the WEEKLY DOPEFIX for the HUNGRY Zombies.
Don't forget , APC govt. voted more money for propaganda,than for agriculture and food.

Next week, it'll be back to Deziani's Billions.
The week after that, to GEJ's trillions.
...and the cycle goes on .

Zombie life, na so it be.
undecided
Politics › Re: N2.5bn In Maid's Account: Stella Oduah Denies Report by plaetton: 3:10pm On Jul 04, 2016
Dp
Politics › Re: Lere Olayinka: Buhari's Lied As His Classmates Visit Him by plaetton: 2:01pm On Jul 04, 2016
Mynd44:
Errr……does he know what "middle school" mean?
Pls tell us.

Remember, way back then, children normally started primary school at around age 10.

To assert that Buhari was in middle school in the North at age 10 is preposterous, not to mention laughable.
grin grin grin
Politics › Re: Tinubu’s Ramadan Gifts: Two Dead by plaetton: 4:30pm On Jul 03, 2016
The HUNGER GAMES begin earnest.
Politics › Re: Halliburton: 24 Allegation FBI Asked EFCC To Investigate by plaetton:
Buhari is poor, but his wife is rich.

Somehow, our vigilant media never ever wondered or asked " what exactly did Aisha Buhari do for a living that she could afford a N10m watch, pay £150,000 in school fees for one of their daughters , Donate N130 m or so to IDP camp, etc etc ?
Romance › Re: Is It Right To Give A Lady Money After A Date? by plaetton: 2:45pm On Jul 03, 2016
bruzrecordz:
Hi guys..
This is something that has being troubling me for some times now, infact it's one of the reasons I have practically stopped asking girls out on a date...just as the question goes...na gud tin to giv a bae money for d first tym as una finish una date either Mr Biggs or tantalizer or pepperoni etc..

Let me gist you what happened on Saturday...on Wednesday I met a very cute girl inside a bank (UBA ph) I was scared talking to her so I spied on her name..as a sharp guy opened my fb, search her and I sent a request..a day later she accept and we started chatting..I later open up to her about I got her name.. She was so impressed on my actions..I asked her out on a date, she agreed, we went out, a nice restaurant, couple of jokes, then later a movie..after everything I took her back to her house..when I got to my house..she called me and said am too stingy for her liking..so i asked her how...she said..y I no give her money as I dey go back.
Abeg help me did I do something wrong?.
Well, in case you didn't know, giving money or gifts in return for female companionship is an ingrained part of the social contract of dating.

Now, whether it is done openly or in a subtler manner, it's still the same.

Guys have to pay for companionship one way or the other, either in cash, gifts, promises of everlasting love or any other form of IOU.

So basically, toasting should be simplified to " come with me babe, IOU.

smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by plaetton: 2:28pm On Jul 03, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Atheist president in North Korea coerce women even 13 year old females into sexual servitude . North Korea is officially an atheist state and if the president does it , why wouldn't fellow atheist masses do same ?

Now atheists lack any moral compass and do as they please - something being wrong or right depends on their personal perspective . Sir , you might hate me for this question but I have to ask . I'm sorry if you should take any umbrage at the question .

If you walk in on your grown up son and daughter having consensual sex , as an atheist how would you react ?

Now if you say its wrong , you have to explain to them why having consensual sex for the gratification being derived is wrong . I mean it is consensual , its for the pleasure , they are above 18 , why the heck will it be wrong ?

I need your response sir . Remember its all about scrutiny . cool
I really do think you may have a learning disability, as someone hinted in the past.

If you can believe and swallow the propaganda against North Korea, and then use it as a sweeping blanket for atheism, then you must be dafter than previously imagined.

I actually feel quite stupid being caught up in this juvenile mesh with you.

Lesson learned.
Politics › Re: N2.5b Found In Ex-female Minister’s Housemaid’s Account by plaetton: 12:58pm On Jul 03, 2016
Mjshexy:
And the innocent house maid may not even know that she was a billionaire with over 2.5billion naira in her account, she probably will still be babysitting & waiting for her 5k monthly pay. Man's inhumanity to man sad angry
How does anyone with a grain of common sense believe in this cock and bull story ? huh

Big laughter.

It seems, like I have said before, that the APC propaganda machinery titillates its hoard of sheeple at least once a week, with silly propaganda as a substitute for real food.

Even an unencumbered primary school pupil would have sifted through this Shaff to know that it is a false news specially crafted for a certain type of people with a certain level of mentality.

For example, no single name was mentioned as either a source of the story nor the perpetrator or suspect.

For anyone who swallowed this fake story, you have just confirmed your IQ level.
Christianity Etc › Re: Conclusion : Nairaland Atheists make shocking approval of Incest by plaetton: 12:44pm On Jul 03, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
cc : plaetton , johnydon22 , hahn , muskeeto , valentinemary , thehomer ,
I think it's silly to ask atheists whether incest is right or wrong.

Atheists are not from a different planet other than the one you call your own.

An atheist is subject to the moral and legal laws of whichever country is a part.

An atheist , let me repeat it to the daft brain for the millionth and one time, is simply someone who doesn't believe in the existence of imaginary creator and puppet fairy in the sky.

Gosh!! undecided

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