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Kingebukasblog,
Hitler was not only Catholic, but was widely endorsed by the German Catholic Council , which put out a report urging Germans to follow Hitler as they would follow Christ.

kropotkin2:
The ineffectual buffoon came, saw, lost an election and failed to conquer. He can never come back

Being ruled by An ineffectual buffoon has turned out to be far far better than a cow.

UyiIredi:
Your wilful ignorance of the reason I presented for inferring God from consciousness is unsurprising.

The Impetuousity of youth

When will you grow up?

If you want to be a born again corrupt politician, join APC.

We will now witness how his corruption charges will miraculously be either put on indefinite hold, or dismissed on technicalities.

Once again, the fake war against corruption is actually a war against opposition.

When see you armed policemen guarding clowns, fools and charlatans, that tells you much about where that country is and where it is going.

I wholeheartedly agree with Reno .
Look what Nigerians have been reduced to in just under 2 yrs.

EFCC is now expected and even called upon to harass and arrest people who criticize Buhari.

KingEbukasBlog:
Yes and No

Yes , because in diabolism one can communicate with the devil as a materialized entity or his cohorts , act like him , carry out orders . And no , as regards to our realm , the devil is a spirit being .

Hilarious.

Again, my point has been proven.

imaginary = invisible= make shyt up as you go.

KingEbukasBlog:
I clearly understood what you meant that's why I added an explanation - " a sane contribution " - of what you mean as declaring victories over invisible enemies .

To Christians , the devil , whom you call an invisible enemy , manifests in the lives of Christians as afflictions , sufferings , persecution , temptation , immoral thoughts. But when these throes of vicissitudes go away , the Christian declares victory .

So the Christian cannot declare victory over this "invisible enemy" whenever he suits him like you earlier said .

Its more like an ignorant joke

Is the devil invisible?
Yes or no ?

KingEbukasBlog:
Assuming he was talking about the devil , then your comment would have been appropriate

Maybe you see clearly now


^^^

A sane contribution : Declaring victory over the devil has to do with being free from afflictions ,spiritual attacks , immoral thoughts etc

You don't get it, do you?

You are helping me to prove my point.

When you believe in invisible things, you have the liberty to make up any variety of bullshytes to associate with it, including declaring Victory unto thineself.

KingEbukasBlog:
He is saying one thing , and you are saying another thing

According to your comprehension skills.

modusOperandi2:
You people underestimate Seun's mission and commission. I pray the good Lord opens your spiritual eyes to see transactions going on this board sublimely executed by Seun.

I will expose more things in due course as the spirit leads.

Lol @ "spirit" things.

Like I always say, the greatest thing about having invisible enemies is that YOU can always declare Victory over them whenever it suits you.

eezeribe:
Bubu is just going there for going sake... He knows nothing about climate change. He knows only rainy season when the grasses are green for his cattles To graze.

You took the words right out of my head.

I mean, couldn't he have sent the foreign minister or the minister for the environment to represent Nigeria ?
How many other Presidents will be there ?

He should be attending conferences about positive economic change, not climate change.

Hilarious.

amazingspiderma:
Just when I thought we were already running the race, someone is here telling me that we haven't got a plan yet.

So what have we been doing all this while.

So hilarious, soooo sad.

Pavarottii:
Good me I don't carry religion in my head; the rate at which fake pastors are emanating is discouraging me as a Christians; and the financial commitment on members even during nauseating.

I know u don't believe in Jesus Christ, but do u believe that there is a spiritual side to this world and life??

Thank you.

It depends on what you mean by "spiritual".

I like to understand reality from a scientific perspective.
As such, I believe that there are multiple dimensions of existence, multiple frequencies, each with peculiar life that resonates within them.

I also think it is much more sensible and much more profitable for humans to focus on understanding our own reality and enriching it than it is wasting too much precious time speculating and entangling our lives on what lies other dimensions.

For good example, when we focus our inquiries on our reality, we discover the cure for diseases, increase food production, overcome the limits that nature put on us.

But when we focus too much on what lies without, we create confusing ideals, beliefs, philosophies and doctrines. These confusing beliefs tend to set man against his neighbor, brother against brother, and community against community.

Nickydrake:
Do you believe then that it is proper for the state to foist the customs of the group -- whether family or community -- on unwilling individuals? In other words, is it your view that the liberty of the individual is subordinate to the culture of the group?

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Personally, I am liberal, but I don't accept that individual liberty should supercede the collective well-being or interest of the community.
There should always be limits to liberty, otherwise , individual choices and actions would be on permanent collisions.

Imagine, for example, if for the sake of individual liberty, everyone had the individual choice to wear clothes or go about naked.

The norms of society usually evolve along with the interests and acceptance of the majority( majority meaning as many as possible).

NB: let me reiterate, before you misunderstand me, that everyone is entitled to equal basic fundamental freedoms.
No one is entitled to special freedoms.
Turning the basic natural structure of matrimony upside down is NOT a basic freedom.

KingEbukasBlog:
Communism
Marxism
Leninism
Juche Ideology

These were atheistic ideologies - atheism is an integral part . Atheism is imposed , extreme intolerance of religious beliefs and practices by states who choose these theories as their nation's guiding principle .

The indelible havoc caused by the practice of these ideologies - mass murder , mass suicide , blatant abuse of human rights etc .
https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because

There are variants of the Marxism-Leninism ideology such as the Juche Ideology which is currently practiced in atheist state North Korea where religious citizens are marginalized and abused continually .

Other variants of Communism include

Stalinism
Trotskyism
Moaism

I can go on and on

Just shut up

onetrack:
Would you permit gays to live together--as if they were a married couple?

To me marriage is an artificial construct--there is no meaningful difference between a couple who lives together without a marriage certificate and one who does, legal niceties aside.

Personally, I am indifferent to whatever people do in the confines of their private space.
However, I do not support the state giving a validation to a matrimonial and family arrangement that is completely UNNATURAL to the basic arrangement . That kind of shift normally takes time, generations to evolve. That is my point. It is impossible, and not advisable to seek same sex legalisation in societies that are even still to grant women equal rights.

Nickydrake:
Is it your view then that, at its most fundamental level, the duty of the state is to the family, rather than, say, the individual?

The duty of the state is or should be to the community, and the family is the nucleus of the community.

Nickydrake:
. Do you mean that legal recognition of gay marriage may result ultimately in the attrition of straight unions? That marriage between people of opposite sexes may grow increasingly unpopular and eventually disappear?

I said and implied no such thing personally.

I simply implied that it is very natural for the state to pushback against threats or perceived threats to its natural order of norms, and the family unit , being the most fundamental, needed to be defended with even greater veracity.

wiegraf:
Atheism is not a common, shared value as well

Do you think it hypocritical and unrealistic to not expect support from the government for atheistic causes as well?

Should the state not endorse a family's lifestyle because they are atheists?

Atheists have suffered pushbacks from the state and its agents throughout history.
But atheism is far from being a lifestyle. There are no peculiar rituals or structures peculiar to atheism that threaten basic structure of society.

Nigerians are very stuupid and wasteful.

Swearing in a governor of state should be a simple solemn ceremony that doesn't and shouldn't require all this wasteful pomp and pageantry.

We attach too much ceremony to public service. We do too much to mystify something as simple as public service. We elevate them to demigods.
That is why the so-called leaders feel less accountable to the people that they are supposed to serve.

Nickydrake:
Fair enough. I should like to rephrase the question. Are you in support of the ban on gay marriage imposed by the state?

I am in support of the state enacting laws to safeguard the core values and norms upon which society stands.

The state has every right to feel nervous and threatened by a completely unorthodox practice that turns its most basic and important social unit, the family, upside down.

I think it's hypocritical and very unrealistic not to expect an angry pushback when an unorthodox and unnatural practice seeks validation from the State.

Going back to early human history, we recognize that the first communities were forged around common core values, interests and or threats. The values of every society begin and revolve around the family unit.
The family unit is the center of gravity for community and society.
Therefore, the state has the power and mandate to safeguard and preserve the mutual core values of the society.

I am not in support of criminalizing homosexuality, but I agree that the state should not endorse any alternative structure to the family unit.

dre11:
Some people won't like what he said because he has criticise their messiahs......



When a nations fails to invest in infrastructure.... its definitely living on a time bomb which would explode anytime, and now it was when the major source of forex is down.

Name one single Nigerian President or head of state that invested more on infrastructure in Nigeria than Jonathan.

DeepSight:
Rather than waiting for praise-singers to assist you before you coyly come about to say "thank you" to them, why don't you just stop menstruating already and man up to the real points? ? ?

You are a clown.

Mock! Mock!

" Who is there ? "

Deepsight.

" Deepsight Who ? "

Deepsight Depardo.

" Deepsight Depardo from where ? "

Deepsight Depardo, the Nairaland Town Jester.

" Oh, it's you. I should have known."

Lennycool:
Family values evolve my friend. A 100 years ago, having only one wife would be against African family values.
Polygamy was the norm.
Not owning a slave would probably be against this said African values, worshipping your dead ancestors and their Gods would by all means be a part of these family values and it would be an abomination not to so.
But today do you see this things as integral or important?
Our values evolve.
Less intelligent Animals don't hate the homosexuals in their species, so why should we, the more intelligent ones hate?

Exactly my point that family values evolve.

But, I never said nor implied that I hated homosexuals.
I just said my sense of values does NOT agree with it.
I also know that it is not a choice.

CoolUsername:
Not to argue or anything but aren't values supposed to be changeable? Calabar culture dictates the killing of but they know better now. If you as an atheist can question the established culture of religious belief then is there a reason why you choose not to do so in this case? Studies show that kids raised by same-sex couples are generally healthier both physically and socially.

Yes, societal values evolve. That's exactly my point. African societal values and norms are yet to evolve to the point of accepting same sex relationships, talkless of marriage. Maybe my grandchild's generation, but certainly not mine.

DeepSight:
... that I state certain attributes of God whilst still acknowledging that God is a mystery. Those attributes that I state and argue for are none but the inescapably obvious. On the other hand, alakori Pastor AIO retires into his chasm with a Jewish-Like attitude that noting must be said about God's nature at all.

The contradictions in your position are too obvious if for you to ignore.

Pastor AIO's position is more sensible.

If you say that God is a mystery, you are admitting that nothing about God is certain and obvious. Thus, all supposed attributes of God are at best, speculative and imaginative.
Not so ?

Lennycool:
What family values?

The Natural family hierarchy of Father, mother, children and home, community and society.

breakeven:
This is penny wise pound foolish. How do you gather money and you keep seeing it every day and your banks are starved of money and are retrenching Nigerians everyday? This money can still be monitored while they work for the economy. Buharinomics will ground Nigeria soon.

Did you just say that Buharinomics will ground Nigeria soon?
Where have you been ?
It has not only grounded Nigeria, it has sunk and fragmented Nigeria in every conceivable way.

ibibiofirstlady:
In my opinion, nothing justifies cheating though some of the reasons are valid enough

Yeah.
In my opinion, not justifies armed robbery, though some reasons for it are valid enough.

My point is, any human can conjure up any number of pathetic and seemingly valid reasons for just about any moral indiscretion.

Infact, our entire criminal Justice system would be redundant if we have to listen and consider the myriad of pathetic and valid reasons that compel people to commit crimes.

Nickydrake:
Hello Plaetton. I wonder, do you still hold this view?

Yes I do.

ManirBK:
wailers are not happy with this latest development

As expected, only an economic illiterate would say this.

Reading and comprehension is a major deficit in our educational system.

Anyone with common sense and simple comprehension would read that article and marvel at the absurd assemblage of disjointed nonsense.

Zombies should asked themselves, if the government is boasting of N4.3tr positive cash flow, then why are they desperately shopping for loans in every corner of the world ?

Secondly, if such N4.3tr was circulating freely within the economy via the financial system, creating and expanding credit, lubricating economic activities, would Nigeria be in such Deep a depression as we currently are ?
This cavemen economics of pulling N4.3tr from financial system, thumping your chest, settings security agencies to raid bureau de changes in order to fix Forex prices is straight out medieval times.

Nigeria has been teleported way way back to the era where the world was flat.