₦airaland Forum

Kingsnairaland:
God bless tb jouhua.

*Politeness*
It is quite ok to say God bless TB, but at same acknowledge he was into sorcery and his accusers are not all lying

MaxInDHouse:
You're missing something here.

So let's take it back a bit:
TB Joshua did a lot of CHARITABLE ACTS but by the end of the day we heard a lot of hidden things that's bad about him so you concluded that due to those bad reports TB Joshua can't be a Christian.
That's why i asked you to tell me what are the things a Christian should engage in for him to gain salvation?
Then you said "it's not about what he does but what he doesn't do like TB Joshua had done"
Then i asked what of people who don't know or want to know anything about Jesus but have been virtuous all their lives are they saved?

So i'm not talking about an atheist being a Christian because he doesn't see anything worthwhile in being a Christian but has chosen to be virtuous!

*Politeness*
You may be a bit confused. A Christian believes in the Lord Jesus. You mentioned a list of people who, by definition, don't believe in Christ - and asked me if they are Christians!

MaxInDHouse:
So if a Traditionalist, Buddhists, Muslims, Atheist, Agnostic, Hindu or Judaist is not doing what you heard about TB Joshua they will be saved even though they don't care about what Jesus taught?

*Politeness*
They can't be any of those and still be Christians.
You ought know better

MaxInDHouse:
So what are the things a CHRISTIAN should be doing for observers to identify him or her as one of Christ's disciples?

Before you respond note that whatever Jesus' disciples are doing to gain salvation cannot be found outside Christianity otherwise Jesus can't be the only way, truth and life if someone who is not a Christian can successfully practice what Jesus taught as means of salvation.

So how do you identify a real Christian since TB Joshua did what moved millions to accept him as a minister of Christ?

*Politeness*
It is more what a Christian should NOT be doing. Christians are humans and are not sinless at all, but there are things that mark one as not a Christian at all - things like believing in and using the powers of another entity altogether. I read where TB's mother was warning him not to use the dark powers (apparently there's a power they both knew about). Well, apparently TB did just that!

*Politeness*
Here's the rest of the list.
What do you think? Do you agree? Are these your favorite movies?

2. Battle on Buka Street (2022) - ₦668,423,056 

3. Omo Ghetto: The Saga (2020) - ₦636,129,120 

4. The Wedding Party (2016) - ₦452,288,605 

5. Chief Daddy (2018) - ₦387,540,749 

6. Sugar Rush (2019) - ₦287,053,270 

7. King of Boys (2018) - ₦244,775,758 

8. Merry Men: The Real Yoruba Demons (2018) - ₦235,628,358 

9. Merry Men 2: Another Mission (2019) - ₦234,505,169 

10. Your Excellency (2019) - ₦186,340,948 
"Your Excellency" rounds off our list of the top 10 highest-grossing Nigerian films with a domestic gross of ₦186,340,948. Directed by Funke Akindele, this political satire follows the journey of a businessman who unexpectedly becomes the President of Nigeria. With its sharp wit, relatable humor, and socio-political

*Politeness*
Forunner of Bobrisky. But we've always had queers here but they've always been only one or two and no one paid any attention to them

Reelmii:
Hmm..i am not a fan nor have i believed or being a member of his church...

But ny question is..why is no one dragging his wife??

Is it that all of this thing his is being accused off, his wife was never aware??

She is alive so they should drag her since it is only the living that can respond to accusations...even if they won't accuse her,, they should include her in their accusations so that she can come out to clear the air.

Or does it means thar TB Joshua does not carry his wife along

I just dot like the idea of accusing a dead person tgar can't defend itself..

*Politeness*
His wife was also a victim. @bolded is correct
SCOAN can still be a credit to the body of Christ - TB and his socery are the culprits not the members or current leadership

MaxInDHouse:
I don't get it.
Is it that TB Joshua is not a man of God?
or
Christians don't commit such atrocities?
or
His church should be closed?

OBUKSBAYELSA:
I stand with Scoan, Pastor Evelyn Joshua and my late spiritual mentor Prophet TB Joshua.
The more they castigate and lie against him the more I believe his ministry

AgentNairaland:
You're the true worshippers, I salute your courage.. When those bastards knew his miracle were fake, WHY DO THEY STAY THERE?

*Politeness*
Having followed this for some time, no TB was never a Christian and was into sorcery.
Doesn't mean the church should be closed - membership and wife are innocent.
But stop supporting evil or keeping silent.
All it takes for evil to triumph is that bystanders do/say nothing

aktolly54:
I might be occultist man of God and still be doing miracles. Doing miracles alone don't only mean you are true son of God

*Politeness*
Indeed. There is GREAT power in our BELIEF.
If someone truly believes someone or something will heal them, it will heal them. That's what placebo effect is all about

effectz123:
Why didn't God heal the child through you.

Curious345:
Yes he did . Not God did.
I know several babalawo who perform more eye catching miracle

7upnigeria:
Yes its God but God uses people for his glory. Why didnt God use the mother to heal the child?

*Politeness*
We Christians ought to be discerning nau.
How many times did Lord Jesus say "YOUR FAITH healed you". And the Bible says he COULD NOT perform major miracles in his hometown because they didn't believe he could.
How many times have we seen people selling fake be all confused because people came back with testimonies of how they were healed?!

festacman:
One interesting thing about the BBC documentary on T.B Joshua is that NOBODY has accused him of human sacrifice. It is remarkable.

Shuggaa:
Pastor tb Joshua was a good man, irrespective of what

*Politeness*
How about this one below
All it takes for evil to triumph is that bystanders do/say nothing

30 seconds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL6ZhV2qNps?si=GvHbe_-3RjtlvxsP

obonujoker:
When we tell you not to join the multitude to do evil, y'all won't understand.

Allow God to judge those who say they are men of God called by God himself.

David said, "far be it from me that I condemn the Lord's anointed"...

*Politeness*
All it takes for evil to triumph is that observers do/say nothing

nairavsdollars:
The man handsome as a young man

*Politeness*
If you stole all the money he stole you'd be handsome too!😅

*Politeness*
No longer a big deal. There are now PILLS that make u lose weight

LegendHero:
No one can fight the federal government easily.

If they pronounce APC, there will be riot for few day from few people, police/military will come in to quench it and the politicians will start cross carpeting.

Life continues the next week.

*Politeness*
You nailed it. Nigerians are funny people - they always say the country will burn, then nothing happens! Even when Supreme Court threw out a popular 2-year gov in Imo and announced an unpopular 4th place finisher as gov - based on clearly forged ballots, NOTHING HAPPENED!

christejames:
Normal thing for the judiciary, as expected!

Incumbent always wins!

*Politeness*
Well, in Imo, Ihediha unfairly sacked after 2 tears in office

felup:
Waiting Plateau State

*Politeness*
But they have ruled on Plateau
https://www.nairaland.com/7967923/plateau-supreme-court-affirms-caleb

fergie001:
My position earlier:

https://www.nairaland.com/7851680/what-electoral-act-really-says/3#126111226

*Politeness*
But same SP in the Imo case (Uzodima v. Ihediha) disqualified irregular ballots that were already allowed by PO and RO

themainman600:
how market bros

*Politeness*
I think Ladylite is a lady - says so right in the moniker!
But hasn't been seen since 2021

themainman600:
Was on off today just tuned to the channel and saw them ministering their anointing water and holy sticker you could see how people are falling down and vomiting in the blink of an eye.....but I somehow am feeling this is strange

*Politeness*
Well, you nailed it. I'd have said you could be a seer, but people were already talking long b4 2021 - so you probably saw it somewhere

*Politeness*
We don't have "summer" here, neither do we have winter. We have rainy and dry season, maybe harmattan.
This is a Nigerian forum!

*Politeness*
We don't have "summer" here, neither do we have winter. We have rainy and dry season, maybe harmattan.
This is a Nigerian forum!

Freedomman1960:
people should ask about his parents what happened why is there no records of his parents Intel has it that they died on his naming ceremony what a Man

*Politeness*
I read where his mother was warning him not to use the "dark powers" (apparently there is a power they both know about). His mother died mysteriously and TB "made sure" he was out of the country when she died

Bobloco:
Dead men tell no tales

Khallicopyro:
Why wait till after his death before exposing him? Because he won't be here to defend himself

Didijiji:
You guys are yet to understand these foreign Media

luminouz:
Haaaaaaaaaa...see analysis for universe!!! So he killed himself by suicide because of BBC?

I fear who no fear Nigerians sha....

*Politeness*
Many were talking long b4 his death and it wasn't only women.
If it were 2 or 3 people, but a whole multitude of people all saying the same thing??
This lady below and others were screaming long b4 TB died, even went as far as writing a book!
It's not good you saying something is false when you know deep inside you it is true.

https://youtube.com/shorts/DwSMf9_ZzkA?si=u4Oet2DJ1wmRXHf8

aswani:
I am late on this but very easy answer, because they were made by a group of lazy Nigerians who instead of going to work for a living, have realised there are lots of brain dead Nigerians about who they can delude into thinking they are important by labelling themselves Pastors, Daddy or Mummy Go, Apostle etc.

*Politeness*
But does it mean God was not telling them anything at all and they were just making it all up?
They all sound so sincere, and totally sure of what they're saying.
I find myself trying to come up with excuses and reasons why the prophecies failed

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FRANCISTOWN:
My point remains that. Unless otherwise 'rape'.
Women determines whether sex happens or not.

Let me ask your a question. If a man slept with a lady who has an STI and along the line the guy contracts the Infection. Whose fault would it be that the guy becomes a carrier?

reddingtonblack:
I think you need re-sensitization, We now live in world where Women lost there hymen via exercise, Love Machine/candles and other surprising

its preposterous to think virginity/hymen lost in a women is only via Diick intervention

Aunty we live in a 21st century no family or groom goes about demanding handkerchief with blood stain, Virgnity as lost its credence in our Modern world

Like said, you are only looking at things from one Narrow angle, downsizes of unwanted pregnancy to a female child BUt that is not always the case, or is it in all cases Men reject pregnancy or walk away.

Women have more Risk to bear i get you but when you are making a submission try strike a balance

*Politeness*
You must be kidding. Can you force a man to have sex?? Point is, both have the same sexual urge but only one is denied the freedom of indulging as she wishes or as desirable opportunity arises, which is quite unfair!

NL is full of males insisting on virgins or saying they disvirgined their wives or gf. Go tell them it is exercise and candles that now disvirgin girls!

TruthsFM:
false accusations here. Not true at all

*Politeness*
If it were 2 or 3 people, but a whole multitude of people all saying the same thing??
This lady below and others were screaming long b4 TB died, even went as far as writing a book!
It's not good you saying something is false when you know deep inside you it is true.

https://youtube.com/shorts/DwSMf9_ZzkA?si=u4Oet2DJ1wmRXHf8

TruthsFM:
😂😂😂. God is now using his wife Evelyn Joshua heavily in the ministry now. You will wail tired. You never see anything yet

*Politeness*
His wife is not TB, infact she's a victim herself too. Neither are members of the church TB. I think TB started then a bit later went sorcery. If the church is cleaned up of sorcery why won't the church (leadership and membership) be a credit to the body of Christ??