₦airaland Forum

*Politeness*
We don't have "summer" here, neither do we have winter. We have rainy and dry season, maybe harmattan.
This is a Nigerian forum!

Freedomman1960:
people should ask about his parents what happened why is there no records of his parents Intel has it that they died on his naming ceremony what a Man

*Politeness*
I read where his mother was warning him not to use the "dark powers" (apparently there is a power they both know about). His mother died mysteriously and TB "made sure" he was out of the country when she died

Bobloco:
Dead men tell no tales

Khallicopyro:
Why wait till after his death before exposing him? Because he won't be here to defend himself

Didijiji:
You guys are yet to understand these foreign Media

luminouz:
Haaaaaaaaaa...see analysis for universe!!! So he killed himself by suicide because of BBC?

I fear who no fear Nigerians sha....

*Politeness*
Many were talking long b4 his death and it wasn't only women.
If it were 2 or 3 people, but a whole multitude of people all saying the same thing??
This lady below and others were screaming long b4 TB died, even went as far as writing a book!
It's not good you saying something is false when you know deep inside you it is true.

https://youtube.com/shorts/DwSMf9_ZzkA?si=u4Oet2DJ1wmRXHf8

aswani:
I am late on this but very easy answer, because they were made by a group of lazy Nigerians who instead of going to work for a living, have realised there are lots of brain dead Nigerians about who they can delude into thinking they are important by labelling themselves Pastors, Daddy or Mummy Go, Apostle etc.

*Politeness*
But does it mean God was not telling them anything at all and they were just making it all up?
They all sound so sincere, and totally sure of what they're saying.
I find myself trying to come up with excuses and reasons why the prophecies failed

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FRANCISTOWN:
My point remains that. Unless otherwise 'rape'.
Women determines whether sex happens or not.

Let me ask your a question. If a man slept with a lady who has an STI and along the line the guy contracts the Infection. Whose fault would it be that the guy becomes a carrier?

reddingtonblack:
I think you need re-sensitization, We now live in world where Women lost there hymen via exercise, Love Machine/candles and other surprising

its preposterous to think virginity/hymen lost in a women is only via Diick intervention

Aunty we live in a 21st century no family or groom goes about demanding handkerchief with blood stain, Virgnity as lost its credence in our Modern world

Like said, you are only looking at things from one Narrow angle, downsizes of unwanted pregnancy to a female child BUt that is not always the case, or is it in all cases Men reject pregnancy or walk away.

Women have more Risk to bear i get you but when you are making a submission try strike a balance

*Politeness*
You must be kidding. Can you force a man to have sex?? Point is, both have the same sexual urge but only one is denied the freedom of indulging as she wishes or as desirable opportunity arises, which is quite unfair!

NL is full of males insisting on virgins or saying they disvirgined their wives or gf. Go tell them it is exercise and candles that now disvirgin girls!

TruthsFM:
false accusations here. Not true at all

*Politeness*
If it were 2 or 3 people, but a whole multitude of people all saying the same thing??
This lady below and others were screaming long b4 TB died, even went as far as writing a book!
It's not good you saying something is false when you know deep inside you it is true.

https://youtube.com/shorts/DwSMf9_ZzkA?si=u4Oet2DJ1wmRXHf8

TruthsFM:
😂😂😂. God is now using his wife Evelyn Joshua heavily in the ministry now. You will wail tired. You never see anything yet

*Politeness*
His wife is not TB, infact she's a victim herself too. Neither are members of the church TB. I think TB started then a bit later went sorcery. If the church is cleaned up of sorcery why won't the church (leadership and membership) be a credit to the body of Christ??

FRANCISTOWN:
Nature has been unfair or what did you say?
Are you seriously kidding me?

Women decide to open their legs for whoever they feel like.
Women also decide to get pregnant or not.
So whose fault is it that they've chosen the irresponsible men?
It's their fault of course.
Everyone should take responsibilities for their actions please.
Women don't know that most of the adult activities they engage in have real life consequences

reddingtonblack:
At these point, i need ask, am i talking to a Bot , how can anyone insinuate sex is unfavorable to women
Two things Women cherish the most is Money and a child which they get via Sex

You are only looking at things from one blur angle, chances of pregnancy after sex is 50/50, besides pregnant is just one of the things women get from sex,

So many bride family have being elevated today cos there daughter open yansh for rich man, which rarely applies to men.

Sex is more favorable to women from a broad lens, leave scientist out of reality talk

*Politeness*
The sexual urge is a powerful basic instinct for both men and women and sooner or later it must find expression. Different if the urge were only with one gender. But nooo, and not only that, only one gender has hymen that announces if she ever did it; the other gender, nothing like hymen!
And in a society like Nigeria, after the woman has borne ALL the risks and unpleasantness of pregnancy and childbirth and finally produces a baby, the baby belongs to the man! He may choose to collect his baby and toss the woman or choose to live with her; or he may choose to abandon her and the baby and move to Tahiti! It's entirely up to him!
And you folks think that's all quite fair, wow!

reddingtonblack:
Hello , you are on Nairaland and even the topic is geographical enough.

Science deals with fact, and fact is a collection of samples that align, My examples are still there for you to go back n read again ... Don't twist my words

*Politeness*
So where are your studies and what are the samples?
We are talking consequences of sex and how it is highly unfavorable to women (as men can simply walk away right after it). Instead of conceding that simple irrefutable biological fact, your focus is what may or may not happen when and if the child grows up!

geoworldedu:
And sometimes you don't just believe what people far away from you are saying until you interview them one on one. People may tell you this and that, as far as they are far away from you or you haven't met them before, it is better you take their testimonies like a pinch of salt. If you go near and investigate thoroughly, you will be surprised by the outcome. Many people are paid to say things in the ways which are not, many want to follow the trend and many people under the critical influence of religion are already mixing up realities with imagination and they can't tell one from the other, such that they live based on what they hear people say. So it is a complex matter and only close investigations and interviews can get you close to the truth.
Do you know how many millions of people have dreamt of the rapture and how very imminent it was, but in the end we are still here. Even many Hinduists have dreamt of seeing their god with two heads or four hands, yet it doesn't change anything about the actual reality of life. That's how people's testimonies are from afar.

*Politeness*
We skeptics have to admit there are phenomena we can't YET explain or we start sounding like those we are trying to debunk. If women who sleep in a particular room have same experience of dreaming a snake or monster came in to have sex with them and they wake up physically violated, let's not pretend we know what's been happening.
Same thing with very young children remembering past lives, which have been severally subjected to the scientific method and verified. See below

reddingtonblack:
Had to go check the meaning of anecdotal, you are wrong cos from a hoilistic view, my Observation/examples are what relateable

Almost all grown up can relate with my experience, the numbers of mothers day in a year is evidence enough, almost all musician have songs to celebrate there mothers

Cases of mothers abuse is immaterial to these discussion, Mothers reaps more dividend from children than fathers, we don't need to argue its Reality

*Politeness*
I am talking scientific irrefutable biology while you are talking subjective cultural phenomena that are different from place to place and even person to person. Just because you know one woman who abandoned her children without caring if they lived or died, we know 99.999999999% of women are not like that

FRANCISTOWN:
I've always thought this account was operated by a man, but that's by the way.


Men also go thru lots of sufferings. Men who fix roofing sheet , build tall houses , wake as early as 3am to travel interstate also do all of these for their family.
Many men have to endure shame, reproach, disrespect and pains just to be able to provide for their family.
Men go hungry for their family.

And I've seen several women who forsook their kids just to be with another man. So no even carry the discussion go that area at all

Tunde835:
Okay guys i want you to ignore her. Ignore this lady i just quoted. Don't waste your time. The best way to deal with a stupid person is to ignore them.

*Politeness*
And how many males on NL would have "polite" in their monikers when there are monikers like "pussyeater"
Bottom line, nature has been very unfair to women as to consequences of sex. Men can simply walk away, women can't. And 99.999% of women can't walk away from their children without knowing they're in good hands. While men may not even know the children are their's! Then add all sorts of cultural issues, some of which are mentioned below

reddingtonblack:
I almost shed tears, these is tew much But lemme ask at the end who enjoys the children love & wealth most, my mother as being getting gift from me even b4 i enter university

My friends mom is busy travelling from her sons house to her daughter house to be with her grand children ... these december i saw her can't even recognise her cos enjoyment is written all over her

But papa dey house, we went to check on him he was busy struggling in the kitchen to arrange akpwu & warm refrigerated oha soup ... sm


No role is easy, spreading legs & birthing a child are natural course even the most lazy woman will birth a child

*Politeness*
Can't say I blame you if you almost shed tears - it is so unfair. As for your examples, they are anecdotal. Cases abound of elderly mothers abandoned, maltreated, or even killed by their children, and of fathers revered

geoworldedu:
Your beliefs influence your thoughts. If you always think of something, you will dream it. If a woman dreamt of that kind of dream and tell another woman, the other woman will keep thinking about it and one day, she will also have the same dream. That is the power of the mind. There is no way you will keep thinking of something with great fear and not eventually dream it. Fear is the fuel. It speeds up the rate at which you will have nightmares and hallucinations. I have been in those shoes before and i can testify to what fear can do to someone's dream.

*Politeness*
As a skeptic I only hope people are lying, because a boxer in Ghana who's never heard of TB Joshua would have repeated dreams of a lady telling him to go to synagogue in Nigeria. So also people from different parts of the world. Many people in the synagogue from all the world didn't just go there, they were brought there through dreams

FRANCISTOWN:
This is going to be long.
Have you noticed that , since time immemorial. Women have been calling men all kinds of names,

*Politeness*
Well, we get pregnant, carry the baby in our bodies for 9 months ((men can disappear right after sex, we don't have that option)), we go through great pain giving birth to the baby and sometimes actually lose our lives, the birth changes our bodies forever some developing leaky bladder and such, ireversible weight-gain etc, post partum depression which have lead some to suicide, etc. Meanwhile ALL the man has done to this point is enjoy sex and cum!
Once the baby is born, we've already known her for 9 months, plus all we went through to produce the baby, all that tie us to him beyond love. Plus we have to breastfeed her, etc- we can't walk away from the baby. But a man can easily walk away and go impregnate another woman (we can't get pregnant again for some time)
Did you think of any of these??

Freshtruth:
See him bear bear wey be like who wan act Babalawo

*Politeness*
😅😂🤣

bigpicture001:
everyone dat testified is an outcast.... some people who have fallen out in the scheming of things in d church..so they all hold grudges...

even me wey nice die..wen i sack my sales girl, sh went about evil gossip about me.. mostly teisted lies..

na so e dey b for bittet hearted ppl

*Politeness*
Soo, give examples of same happening in other churches, or is it that people never leave those other churhes. How many of them have come out to say anything close to any of these about their GOs?

Tenoch:
Now that they are coming out to tell us. What do they want us to do shae mah we go dig him body comot for grave ni. We have bigger problems at hand in Nigeria not stories about someone who is dead

*Politeness*
So if your person was raped or molested there you'd like everything swept under the rug and never mentioned

geoworldedu:
Otem opened my eyes in 2016. It was well stated in his book the story of Luwabi or what is the name of that man sef? He covered an empty pot and people feared that the pot has charms in it. Then the man started appearing in the dreams of the fearful people just like the case of TB Joshua here. I will post the story once i see it.

Here is it:

29. And they said, Ikoko Luwabi orisa wa(meaning the pot of Luwabi, our own god).
30. Now the two brave men whose names were Akin and Gbajumo came to the pot at noon. And they said, we shall open the pot and dare the consequences.
[b] 31. So many gathered to watch them open the pot. And those who worship the pot came and said, do not open it, because it is our god. And since we began to worship it, it has been protecting us from evil.
32. However, Akin and Gbajumo proceeded and lifted up the pot. And many homos scattered to different directions, running when no one was chasing them. And those who were curious were shocked beyond imagination. For they saw nothing under the pot and they were disappointed.
33. Now it was known before the passing away of that day that the pot of Luwabi contained nothing. And they who had built their worship around the pot wondered, saying, why then are we protected when we changed our gods to worship the pot as our new god?
34. Who protected us from death when we left the worship of Ogun and Sango and even Oya to worship this pot?
35. Now Luwabi sat them down and said, you protected yourself with what you believe. For if you believe that you are protected, then you shall be protected. You do not need any god to protect you, but your own mind.[/b]
36. When you see a pot turned upside down, you think it is covering up something. But the truth of the matter is that it covers up nothing worth checking. So are many beliefs. They are made up of nothing but vacuums, yet they have power to protect you and to make you look powerful because you have put your belief in them.
37. Now the homo, who fell sick after thinking of the food he ate from the pot before it was overtuned, came to Luwabi because he had become well. And he said, baba Luwabi, if indeed the pot did not cover anything, how then did I fall sick?
38. How then did I dream that a snake was inside the pot turned over?
39. Then Luwabi said, your fear made you dream so and not because there is a snake under it. That is what fear can do to anyone. Now because you have known that there is nothing under it, you became well again. So is life. Many die because of their ignorance.

*Politeness*
Yeah, but this is different from multiple women who stayed there saying a huge snake or demon came in their dreams to have sex with them. Or people in other countries who had same dream repeatedly of a lady telling them they must go to the synagogue in Nigeria

*Politeness*
This is not factual. Many were talking LONG before he died, some right from inception of the church. This his ex chief assistant below was screaming, and even wrote a book!

https://youtube.com/shorts/DwSMf9_ZzkA?si=u4Oet2DJ1wmRXHf8

Justnation:
Sometimes people do this to pull others down,
I am particularly concerned about BBC's inglorious efforts because they hardly promote any good thing coming from Africa

Forget about BBC. People who had absolutely nothing to gain but a lot to lose were talking long before he died - and not just sex nor only females

geoworldedu:
Marine power my foot. It is just influential power he is using. It is very physical power. All you need to look powerful is to brainwash people into making it look like you are powerful. And the ways to do it is either by becoming a pastor with many false testimonies of great manifestations, or be a traditionalist with objects that scare the sheep od an imam with lies of what you have achieved in the spirit world. People who believe you will start following your instructions like zombie.

*Politeness*
Wrong! I am a skeptic too but too many people said he came into their dreams in one form or another for it all to be nothing

Blackshared:
One thing is vivid. This story is because she doesn't want to be a disciple. Hence, this gives room for devilish BBC manipulators to build something.

Justnation:
He also silenced BBC? , waooooh don't be too sentimental my brother.
Stop believing that the British and Europeans are always superior and right, that colonial mentality is destructive

stacyadams:
Una no talk when h dey alive why?

TruthsFM:
False accusations here. Not true at all

Justnation:
Why all these after the man's demise.
What is the motive?

obonujoker:
All these campaign of calumny because TB Joshua's wife took over the church

Switruth:
The British will always find a way to rubbish Nigeria

Reelmii:
Why is this coming close to 3yrs after his death

ednut1:
This thing now sounding fishy.

imagrg:
She's talking trach!

bentenny:
I can't believe a one sided tale two years after his death!
The sudden revelations are too suspicious in my opinion!

*Politeness*
They were talking LONG before he died. Quite a few of them. His ex chief assistant, Bisola, was screaming to anyone who would listen, and even wrote a book!

https://youtube.com/shorts/DwSMf9_ZzkA?si=u4Oet2DJ1wmRXHf8

StrongAlphMale:
A very stupid story!

Looks more like a nollywood.

Ain't no fan of TB Joshua or any Nigerian pastor but Why didn't they say all these when the man was still alive?

cenaman:
Why dem no talk am wen him dey alive?

nstore:
Who will speak for the dead?.. Hmm..

CoronaVirusPro:
The power tussle in the church has started resulting to blackmail.

*Politeness*
They did say it, and worse. Quite a few of them. His ex chief assistant, Bisola, even wrote a book

https://youtube.com/shorts/DwSMf9_ZzkA?si=u4Oet2DJ1wmRXHf8

Overdosed:
So should he go on ahead with the marriage and all?

*Politeness*
What a question. What does what he did have to do with the marriage?? Your question would make sense if she caught him and you're asking if she should go ahead

*Politeness*
Only God knows the type of unbelievable looting that has been perpetrated using forex and exchange rates!

*Politeness*
Depends. By Christ's standards he already cheated just by looking at the photos in any sexual way. By worldly standards, it depends on his mindset and what he later does.

*Politeness*
Just the right age to start doing that.
Your mum is a wise woman.
She will live a longer, more peaceful life, for it.

"Looking good" is in the eye of the beholder. Your mum looks very good. It is you that is brainwashed!