₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
What book?

It’s not my problem if you can’t read between the lines either.

Kobojunkie:
What? What do you mean by this?

I’m not your lecturer. Pick up a book if you need to learn something.

Mariangeles:
Nowadays, when you pray for a son or a daughter, be specifically clear.

May our daughters not come out in our sons bodies, and our sons in our daughters.
May our children not bring us disgrace.

Gender wasn’t so clear-cut pre.-colonial times, believe it or not.

I’m yet to read your O.P. but I know that P.T.S.D. can be nasty. Feel free to drop me a message if you want to discuss further (I might be able to give you medical advice within certain limits).

Kobojunkie:
What other examples do you know of? I am interested in trying out other vegetables please.

Also do you happen to have a picture of his Awa leaf and maybe it's English name?

I don’t think okazi is specific to southern Igboland (Calabar people use them in one of their most characteristic soups and just call it Afang, of course) but it does seem to be mostly Imo and Abia Igbos who actually cook with it. You wouldn’t ever see a Nnewi or an Awka woman cooking anything other than maybe egusi (the egusi-okazi combination seems to be somewhat more widespread across the East than any other okazi-infused food) with that leaf.

Onugbu’s technically universal (I suppose, at least within the perimeters of eastern Nigeria and possibly Cameroon) but obviously it’s Anambra-lite people who deal with it the most. (Does anyone from Imo actually cook ofe onugbu, out of interest? Does anyone actually know?)

EmekaBlue:
Bro i took time to read what you wrote and i swear i agree with all u said.
I can guess you are not based home right? As in u are nigerian not here but somewhere in Europe or so

Don't mind us o. The hunger and frustration here makes some of us lack basic sense of reasoning because of the anger daily

Let’s just say I’ve got one foot in Naija and the other foot in obodo oyibo.

Theoarhics:
What's the positive significance of this nonsense?

What’s the negative significance of it? What does it matter if they celebrate Halloween?

EmekaBlue:
Bro this is not an African thing u know ofc. We also have our own masquerade festivals. I just find it awkward when some blacks That's not even in Europe o but Nigeria here will be celebrating it like it's part of them.

Patronize your own

There’s no shame in the world being inter-connected. Just because we have our own indigenous practices doesn’t mean we can’t patronise other cultural practices from time to time.

Jollof rice is pretty nice. But so’s Nando’s (peri-peri) chicken. So’s a good bolognese (when it’s made by a proper Italian anyway).

Same for cultures and people. Yoruba culture is fascinating. So’s ancient Japanese mythology. Igbos are adaptive and smart as hell. So are the Japanese. So are the Germans.

The world doesn’t start and end with Nigeria. I don’t know why Nigerians seem to fluctuate between expressing an ego so big that it rejects cultures and practices which aren’t directly their own and adopting a downbeat pan-African identity and regarding ourselves as the same as people from those African countries which are genuinely tapped and useless (without remembering that Nigerians are a better kind of black). But going forward it’s good to keep in mind that patronising another world practice or culture intermittently doesn’t mean you have an inherent inferiority complex or that you’re doing so at the risk of eroding your own culture. The English colonised and interacted with no less than half the world but they still know who they are (or at least they think they do). Those interactions with other nations only enhanced their own culture (thanks to their interactions with the likes of India there’s now more option than fish, chips and mushy peas for takeaway options - people can get a nice vindaloo with pilau rice or a kebab on a Friday night instead and that’s what people very often do). Nigerians can be the same. We just need to know our worth and bear it in mind at all costs going forward. That’s all.

DSC7:
It was raining yesterday and Fortunately Nepa refused to take light.....

I was Charging my phone and surfing the Internet when the Lightening struck.....

What saved me was my phone that dropped off my hands, i would have been gone by now....

My vision became blurry while my legs and hands went numb.....

Have anyone experienced such?

And what should be the first Aid treatment?..

Make sure you never leave your ’phone on the bed or have it in your hands when it’s charging. That’s a recipe for disaster.

You don’t need first-aid treatment (you’ll live either way) but don’t ever do that again if you value your life. People need to know that it’s not safe to leave your mobile on your bed when it’s charging and very bad things have been known to happen in that particular scenario so just count yourself lucky that you weren’t burnt to ashes.

EmekaBlue:
Oyinbo life

I dey look blacks wey dey join Dem somehow. Even some mumu ones for naija here

Not everything that’s not Nigerian is oyinbo/oyibo. There are 180 countries in the world. Nigeria’s one. White-dominated countries don’t account for more than one-third of the rest of the world’s populace.

Tea-drinking is accepted as a ubiquitous British culture but tea itself na from China. And Chinese people aren’t white (although in a more distant plain they can be considered vaguely Caucasoid, I suppose). Halloween (or the equivalent/s) probably existed across the world in different shades for centuries before we with our contemporary understanding clocked on to the more modern version of it. It pays to not be ignorant. It really does, dear. It really does.

Kobojunkie:
No pictures?

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Treasure17:
This is what happens when you gat no bills to pay.

Why shouldn’t this man be happy?

No less than 6 (7 if ofe akwu can be regarded as a type of banga soup).

Suntwist:
Have you tried this ??

I’ve made fried rice with bleached palm oil but otherwise typical ingredients (chicken, liver, etc.). It was pretty good.

moshino:
What exactly makes you believe that uncivilized, infantile perceived insults and name calling, on faceless social media makes you smart, or wins you an argument?

I’m not the one who thinks being on the spectrum means getting a vaccine is problematic. You obviously don’t know what Asperger’s is.

If I call you an idiot it’s because you are. No unnecessary shade intended. You’re just being a very silly boy who wouldn’t know the truth about anything if it came up to him and gave him a bag of free kush. Arizona most probably.

moshino:
I'm guessing you're his doctor, with knowledge of his full medical history, and whatever drugs he's taking. Or you probably know more than the patient, who personally stated that as his reason. Indeed, you know a lot.

Explain to me the relevancy of me knowing him personally is to knowing about his condition and having accurate insight into it. Explain to me how him having Asperger’s precludes him from getting a damn vaccine.

Nigerians can be some of the most brilliant but stupid people in the world at the same time. Level up and insert something more than a bag of rocks inside your skull.

do you even know what a person with Aspergers Syndrome behaves like? they become fixated on one thing and for me that thing is being with my husband

Every male is basically on the spectrum. Asperger’s-like traits are just a slight exaggeration of what’s present in introverted females (and a good half of females are introverted) and every male by default so it is what it is.

moshino:
Stop exposing your ignorance. Bill Gates got his vaccine shot, his daughter Jennifer also got hers.

Elon Musk suffers from aspergers disease, so he can't safely take the vaccine.

https://www.geekwire.com/2021/feel-great-bill-gates-shares-photo-getting-first-dose-covid-19-vaccine/

Oprah Winfrey also a $billionaire, got her vaccine shots; https://www.republicworld.com/entertainment-news/hollywood-news/oprah-winfrey-opens-up-on-receiving-the-covid-19-vaccine-says-she-wanted-to-cry.html

Saudi crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, another $billionaire got his vaccine; https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/saudi-arabias-crown-prince-mohammed-bin-salman-gets-covid-19-vaccine-report-2343817

Barack Obama, Donald Trump, Justin Trudeau, Boris Johnson etc all got theirs.

I wonder where you're getting your unschooled information from.

Also know that Bill Gates and Elon Musk are not the only $billionaires in the world.

Asperger’s is a personality type more than anything. It’s certainly not a disease, talk less one that would impede someone from getting a damn vaccine.

You don’t know the first thing about anything, do you?

armyofone:
I look forward to eating it too. My mom cooked hers by first boiling to soften and pounding in little nwa mortar before adding to stock or base.

That’s actually the best thing (using a mortar instead of a blender/processor).

Does your mum make ofe ujuju plain or with okra/ogbono?

LofiLogic:
This nigga get mental problems I swear

It’s common knowledge that he’s bipolar affective (manic-depressive). His illness isn’t severe but he has it all the same.

I hope he’s not having another manic breakdown.

Forevermore85:
Ok

What do you mean okay?

iPhone XR.

armyofone:
Trek to Umudike village -

Awka na my backyard (when I’m in Nigeria) so that’s actually very okay.

And yeah, I’m aware that there are minor differences between water leaves proper (whatever the scientific name/designation is) and ujuju but if memory serves they fall into the same category (or at least a similar one). I know because I was reading an article about the traditional Igbo food system and listed under water leaves (or at least leaves allied/pretty similar to it) were different leaves, including ujuju. It was also there that I learnt that there’s actually a minor difference between ugu (fluted pumpkin leaves) and regular, non-fluted pumpkin leaves (ugboguru) and that it’s actually the latter that’s most appropriate for okra soup.

Also, does anyone here have experience using pumpkin seeds either as an adjunct to or substitute for ogbono (or ugiri) when making okra soup?

armyofone:
I love ujuju. I miss that vegetable

I don't like it being mix with anything. Just ujuju soup and some dried fish and crayfish.

People add it to okra or ogbono cuz it is naturally drawy vegetable.

Op,
Ujuju leaf is not the same as water leaf.

Is it easily obtainable East of the Niger? Or would one have to trek to Asaba (or even further west) to get the leaves?

mariahAngel:
Water leaves have slightly bitter taste, unlike ugu (fluted pumpkin) that is sweet.

To be fair, some conc. Anambra people add onugbu leaves to their draw soup (which I personally don’t rate) so it’s not as if more bitter things than ujuju haven’t been used for okra soup before.

I know what you mean about okra needing to be relatively sweet but I don’t think the addition of ujuju will negatively impact the flavour of the soup any more than uziza leaves or seeds (which a lot of people definitely do add to their okra soup). And like I said ofe okwuru/ogbono-ujuju is a whole thing in certain parts of Delta State and all those people who regularly cook and eat it can’t be terribly wrong.

Kobojunkiee:
It also comes with a separate taste which it adds to the concoction.

There’s something called ujuju soup (I don’t know if the more nuclear-Asaba-type Enuani Igbos of Delta cook it but Kwale-Bendel-Ika people at least definitely do) that’s essentially okra/ogbono soup made with water leaves (some people only use the ujuju/water-leaf vegetables, though). I’m sure the taste is there for them (otherwise they wouldn’t keep making it, nor would it be a recognised staple in those Delta Igbo/id communities) so the combination of okra and water leaves mustn’t be that bad.

mariahAngel:
If you do that, it’ll alter the authentic taste of the soup.
Unless you’re going for something else altogether.

And how would it alter the taste?

bigfrancis21:
I've always had a feeling that the Igbo race is the progenitor of so many tribes in Nigeria. But today no tribe will want to acknowledge this fact due to the detrabilized name and status given to the Igbo after the civil war.
The current trend within Igboland nowadays is claiming origin from other outside black tribes even when it could be false or vice versa. But the truth is gradually seeping out again. The Igbo people have been present in Africa for a very very long time, long before other tribes for them to be originated from them. Carbon dating results proves this fact.
Olukwumi (also called old yoruba) is spoken in two Igbo communities in delta state(though Igbo is more spoken). I believe that this is linguistic evidence and a reminder that some yoruba communities may have originated from Igbo land long long ago during the language spread and they moved westwards, leaving some folks behind. The migrant olukwumi group that left developed their language the more to what is now known as Yoruba dialects.
The history of Abeokuta has it that the area was originally populated by the Igbo people before it was invaded by foreigners who conquered and chased the natives away. The initial name of the place being 'ebe okwute' in Igbo meaning 'Place of stone' named so due to the heavy presence of stones and rocks, which was later corrupted to 'Abe okuta'. Interestingly enough, the meaning of abeoukta still remains the same in Igbo language as it is in Yoruba.
One doesn't seem to understand why there are many Yoruba communities that bear names with 'Igbo' attached to them. The 'Igbo' pronounced exactly the same way Igbo is pronounced natively in Igboland. Ijebu-Igbo, Igbo-ora for example.

There’s definitely a case to be made that some itinerant Awka communities settled in the likes of Ondo (maybe even Ekiti) centuries ago. I also have a feeling that certain parts of Ekiti have a certain Imo-like vibe (God knows how itinerant/migratory ndu Okigwe were back in the day but it seems plausible that they migrated westwards at some point). It would explain why Ondo and Ekiti people seem to be cut from a more Eastern-leaning cloth than “mainstream” Yorubas closer to the western periphery.

Why else would they have a sizeable Catholic community (Igbos and Ondo people at least are divided between Catholic/orthodox and Pentecostal) or pounded yam and vegetable soups (as opposed to amala and gbegiri) be a staple there?

mariahAngel:
Why do that when you can simply grate part of your okra, then cut up the rest?

Because not everyone likes blended/pounded/grated okra. Water leaves, on the other hand, appeal to most people and they’re readily available in communities where people are more likely to only chop their okro (southeastern Nigeria). So it’s not a bad idea for someone from Imo state who refuses to process okra via any other means than a knife and no get kaun or thickeners (ogbono, ugiri, pumpkin seeds).

Salvofthesouth:
In the eyes of Britain being British-Nigerian is just ordinary paper. When it comes to real deal your British-Nigerianness is inconsequential.
I am not surprised when it comes to BBC and UK. They are the most evil people of the white race. Racist and terrorists

Nah. The U.K. is pretty okay.