₦airaland Forum

opad:
cos u dont seem to understand the plight we the students are facing, . . . So far Ive experienced 10months (6months makes a session) compulsory holiday due to Strike. Strike has delipitating factor on our growth, psychologically,academically, everywise.

TheSeeker is right.  This appears to be the problem.  No Nigerian student wants to bear the sacrifice; everyone just wants to get in fast, and get out the same way, get a degree, work in some bank and earn N150k per month.  It appears everyone is after his/her personal comfort.  And believe you me, if ASUU yields to the students' demands and things continue this way, ASUU strike will continue to be a recurrent event in Nigerian Universities for years to come.  So why not solve everything ONCE AND FOR ALL, even if it'll take a year or more, so that future generations will never have to suffer this same fate when they also get into the system?  But what do we have?  No one wants to reason with ASUU.  And by the way, ASUU is not being greedy, they deserve the salary increase, amongst other agitations.

Tell me, what the hell are you even learning in the university?  How many good lecture theatres do you have in your school?  If you are a science student, how many modern microscopes do you have in your labs?  How many functioning equipments do you have to work with?  Do you really gain anything meaningful at all, apart from just reading your brains out to score good grades?  How good are your hostels presently?  These and many more are what ASUU is fighting for on your behalf.  It seems to me that you lot are only making noise because the house is getting boring and you want to re-unite with your friends at school. . . you are missing the campus grooves.  Think deeply, the real blame is on the FG.  No one is happy about the strike, but if at the end it works, it would be a worthwhile venture on the part of ASUU, and a meritorious endurance on the students' part.

opad:
the Strike option has been overused, the NLC president even confessed to that fact, Must they always go on Strike to before the FG meets their demands?

You know what?  You're right.  But then, I've reasoned and thought deeply about this too, but guess what?  I couldn't think of any other way they can employ to tackle this present impasse.  Do you have any suggestions for ASUU?
By the way, read the NLC's position on the ASUU strike HERE.


And just for the records, I'm a student too . .  of OAU to be precise.  Greatest Ife!!!

Murray is being schooled.

stagger:
I AM SO SICKENED THAT NO ONE TALKS ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE BERNIE MADOFF! OR KENNETH LAY. OR JEFF SKILLING.

Or the Worldcom guy (what's his name again)?

As someone rightly pointed out earlier, there are fraudsters in every country. . . only that their number, the rate at which they work, and how often they're persecuted greatly differs from our beloved Nigeria, and you can't deny that . . .  can you?

stagger:
We all know that a lot of substandard goods are made in China. WHy did they not direct ads negatively profiling China? They know very well that if they try it, China will blow them off the world map with their nuclear weapons.

Oh, I didn't realise Sony has now become a geographical entity.

stagger:
Sony should go and burn in hell. I am done buying their products!

Then what? . . . Sony is going to pack up?  Funny fella. 

It is so sad that not many people here would bother to alert the bank by themselves of being credited money that does not belong to them, and we all sit here, blaming the government of corruption, wondering why this country is in such a deep mess.

This is a very strong indication that many critics of the Nigerian government would probably do worse when in such position themselves.  It's so sad that honesty and integrity have been thrown out the backdoor, and avarice has taken dominance in the mind of the average Nigerian, even pastors.  Some people here even dare to curse those who who don't follow their line of reasoning.

I know I will probably receive insults for sounding "holier-than-thou", oh well!

Zidane = The Lord is my barber

Shawn Wright Philips = Okada / Seun Wright Philips

Drogba = Aderogba

Bacary Sanga = Bakare Sanya / Crossbreed (donkey & camel)

Nasri = Nasiru

Anelka = Alhaji

Tevez = Vampire

Ferdinand = F'agbo

Messi = Merciless Messi

Vidic = Bus Stop / Headmaster

Van der Sar = Van der Save

Essien = Eru'ku

Gerrard = Captain Fantastic

Asharvin = Ashafin / Assasin

Fabregas = Fabre-pass

Kanu = Papilo

@AjaraEwuro

What's wrong with an atheist attending a Christian school?
Covenant University (which I won't even call a Christian school in the first place) is a school under the Federal Ministry of Education of Nigeria, that offers the usual academic courses obtainable in other universities in the country.  The only difference here is that it is owned by some Bishop, hence private.

Did Tudor tell you he went to the school because of its religious teachings?  Why label him an hypocrite then?

Take a look at this scenario:

You bump into a terrorist in an enclosed room who's about to blow up an entire stadium on the night of a UEFA Champions League Final (assuming the bomb has THAT capability).  You are the only one that knows about this, and NOTHING you say/preach to him will change anything, his mind's made up.  There's a loaded AK47 lying somewhere on the floor.  You have the chance to pick it up and blow his brains off, saving thousands of lives, or you have the chance to walk away because "you don't want to kill" (but of course you'll also die when he detonates).  Which option will you pick?

IMHO, the Catholic church's position on the use of contraceptives is NOT reasonable (no insult intended). The motives may be holy - to discourage premarital sex, that is (which is hardly effective anyway) - but whoever came up with this 'law' certainly failed to put into consideration the dilemma this would put couples in, couples who'd find this a convenient method to do some family planning.

My advice? Any religion/religious principle that asks you to suspend common sense, run fast and never look back.

@ Chiogo

Being intelligent(book smart) is different from street smarts.

I'm very well aware of that.  Why do you assume I was referring to "book smart"?

she can be intelligent, mature, yadi yada still doesn't mean she knows what she wants.

I don't know your own definition of maturity; but a mature girl, to me, is one who knows what she wants for herself.

Pedophiles will always use every excuse to justify their acts.

I think you need to calm down.  I haven't even made my stance known on this issue, and you already label me a pedophile?  I only sought to clear the misconception most people have about ALL 16yr old girls not knowing "anything" at that age.  My mission was to remind everyone that there are always exceptions, as usual. And BTW, I think you should quit using whatever personal experiences you had as 16yr old, as a basis for your arguments.  You seem to think every 16yr old must have been like you & your friends at that age.  You're making a lot of sense though, but you're being sentimental as well.

It seems many here do not realise that in recent times, teens (of this generation particularly) have really "stepped up".

While I strongly agree that many 16yr old girls today are VERY gullible, I'll not fail to admit that there are still some 16yr old girls who think and act like 25yr olds.

I know a 16yr old girl whose precocity will blow your mind away.  She is very mature, highly intelligent, so focused and she knows exactly what she wants for herself.

@Aloy~Emeka

He chose the colt because it was an expensive ride.

A colt (young donkey), an expensive ride?  Whatever it is you're smoking appears to have taken its toll on you.  Please quit.

The triumphant entry means He entered Jerusalem like Abiola did in June 12 and with a Donkeycade too.

Oh, I didn't know Jesus won any presidential election in Isreal.
Donkeycade?  I laugh in tongues!  You seem to own a BOV Bible.  (Bishop Oyedepo Version).

Mary magdalene washed his feet with a perfume more expensive than Versace and He didn't complain. Why didn't He scold her and say 'haba, we for use the money feed hungry citizens' rather, it was Judas like many  nairalanders who complained about the price of the perfume

This guy is a comedian.

He never said that and he never promised any cheap education to anybody. The idea was to build a school where children can attend and receive biblical counselling easily which are hardly found in secret -cult- infested- strike- ridden- dilapidated Nigerian universities.

Unfortunately, CU records a stunning high number of perverts.  So much for "biblical counselling", eh?

Yes, education is a luxury and not a necessity no matter how we desire it. Medical care is a necessity and you can barely live without it but shoot, you don't maths and english to to breathe. Jesus was an illiterate, wasn't He?

No, we're not entirely sure.  We read of a 12yr old Jesus in the temple in the midst of doctors, who were astonished at the level of his knowledge and understanding.  Besides, the Bible doesn't record what Jesus did between 12 - 30 yrs of age.

@Aloy~Emeka

[quote author=Aloy~Emeka link=topic=312423.msg4398019#msg4398019 date=1250886366]Do you have a private jet for Oyedepo to borrow?. The cost of renting these jets, insurance and FAA regulations will kill their finances. Its always cheaper to buy because all you need to pay for is a little money for hanging it.[/quote]The point is, your groteque comparison of the colt Jesus rode, to the private jets and flashy rides of modern-day pastors is deeply flawed.   A colt was not something a rich man would ride in the days of Jesus.  He would typically own chariots (golden ones for that matter), customized private boats/yachts and the likes.  The fact that Jesus even borrowed an ordinary colt further confirms that you have absolutely no point there.

Temmiegirl:
All those saying christians are daft and wrong things against Bishop Oyedepo are  Fools,

The bishop really must be proud of you!

[quote author=Aloy~Emeka link=topic=312423.msg4392574#msg4392574 date=1250820367]Shoot, even Jesus rode on a white donkey which is equivalent to a Bentley or private jet  nowadays.[/quote]My guess is that your pastor told you the donkey's colour.

Besides, the chariots in His days would be a more appropriate comparison to the jets of today.  And as someone rightly implied, the donkey was, in fact, a borrowed one.

O Ye Oyedepo Faithfuls should just shut the hell up!

Queen Sheba did not leave unceremoniously, contrary to that report.  Infact, she even gave a farewell message before her depature from Liberia.  The very same Queen Sheba that has been painted as a diabolical woman by Oyedepo made the statements below.

Queen Sheba III has been in the country of the National Traditional Council of Liberia (NTCL) and she is departing the country today for her dear abode. Commenting on what she made of her visit and the prospects of the country that is still nursing deep wounds of conflict, the young and elegant looking woman told reporters yesterday that though Liberia is lacking behind as a result of the war, with the conviction of the people of Liberia it can become a great nation.

She said she was of the strong conviction that Liberia will rise up, after the years of conflict, as one of the most powerful and successful countries in West Africa. “It is lacking behind, but the strong conviction of the people, the love of the people for the nation will bring it up.”

While in the country she did not have the opportunity of meeting President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf to advance any suggestions as to the way forward for Liberia, however, she said “unity will make difference in the country. The message is taking back home and leaving with Liberia is that “that we are one, that she loves Liberia and its people and their hearts for God.

“African is one continent, one people; whether you are in Liberia, wherever you are, is one family and that family we must cherish,” she said when asked as to what message she was taking back home, adding: Hhave trust, have faith in God because God has a plan for Africa.”

Queen Sheba said she is impressed by the hospitality and enthusiasm Liberians displayed, most especially the fact that people are allowed to speak what is on their mind, what they want the country to be. “You are strong a nation in spite of the war and tribulations you’ve gone through. I like the conviction of the people.
http://www.analystliberia.com/global_witness_fights_proxy_war_july22_09.html

Meanwhile, allegations concerning her alleged diabolism have been debunked Liberia's Ministry of Internal Affairs.
http://www.theinquirer.com.lr/story.php?record_id=1487&sub=14

Sagamite:
If you have an intelligent alt-argument, put it down.

I agree that many fall for scams out of greed.  I certainly do NOT pity these ones, but I definitely will NOT justify the criminal act of these fraudsters either - whether on account of the victim's greed, or on account of the seeming harmlessness of the effect of the dubious act.

One thing I observed though, on this thread, is that many are under the erroneous belief that there's only one form of scam - the type in which sheer greed makes one a victim.  That is, the type of scam in which one is told about one looted money somewhere that needs to be remmitted back, . . . blah blah, or that you've won some lottery you never played.  I guess you know what I'm talking about here.  But you may be surprised to know that scammers keep devising new methods daily, methods that most unsuspecting people would easily fall for.  I'll tell you two methods I know of.

1. Craigslist.  Craigslist.com is a classified ads site.  A scammer contacts the seller of a particular item, showing interest in the item up for sale.  When the seller agrees to sell, the scammer then asks the seller to send the item using a courier service of his (scammer's) choice, promising to be responsible for the cost of shipping himself.  Meanwhile, the scammer has already opened a customized email address, bearing the name (or part) of a bank or some postal service such as USPS.  He then uses this email address, disguising as the bank/postal service to inform the seller that their supposed client (the scammer) has already paid in a particular sum for a particular item, and that the funds will only be released to him (the seller) only when they get confirmation from their client (the scammer) that the seller has sent the item.  The seller then sends the item, and waits in vain for his money.  Believe me, the format these scammers use is usually near-perfect, though I will never fall for such anyway.  In this case, the white guy (seller) is a victim, not because of his greed, but stupidity, which is quite excusable.

2. Dating and Social Networking sites.  These scammers visit these sites in search of white folks (male/female).  If the scammer gets a white man, he'll disguise as a beautiful white woman (using downloaded pictures) living in some other country, and vice versa.  He'll then go ahead to build a very good friendship with the white, which later turns into a strong relationship.  Most of the time, there are usually marriage plans on ground.  This usually lasts for months.  When it's very clear that the white has fallen fully in love, to the point that whatever the scammer asks will hardly be declined, the scammer then begins to extort this white fellow.  He forms all sorts of lies, from claiming he's seriously ill and needs some huge sum to pay the medical bills, to claiming he's got some project in some African country and is currently stranded, claiming he was duped by some black scammers, and that he needs some huge sum to get back to the country, promising to return it when they get to see each other.  White women tend to fall victim more to this kind of scam because of their frail heart.

These are just the two I'm aware of.  And who says scamming is less harmful than kidnapping?  Do you know how many people have committed suicide because of being scammed?  Do you know how many homes that have been wrecked because the breadwinner lost all his fortune to scammers?  Whether the victim was being stupid or greedy is not my concern now.  Scamming is not only a criminal act, it has severely damaged whatever traces of positive image this country ever had left, and there should be absolutely NO justification for it, NEVER!  It is just as bad as any other social vice in the society, and none should be compared to the other because they all have similar end-results on their victims.

sjeezy8:
lol why did you ask a question then answer it yourself?

I suggest you read my last post once more.  Which question did I ask?

If anyone is still wondering why Nigeria is in such a hopeless state today, wonder no more.  The posts of those justifying 419 here - on account of victims' greed - already speaks volumes.

By the way, I must confess that I'm quite surprised at the number of people suggesting here that unsatisfied customers should look elsewhere to operate a bank account.

Do you people really think it is that convenient to be jumping from bank to bank?  There are so many factors most people put into consideration before deciding to open an account at a particular bank, some of which are proximity of their branches to one's residence, location and reliability of their ATMs, customer care service, and general ease of transactions, just to mention a few.  But when these banks begin to misbehave, especially by charging their customers so many unnecessary fees, it is usually not so easy to "simply move to another bank" as most of you have suggested, as the factors listed need to be fully considered, which may not prove favourable should one eventually move elsewhere.  What we do instead, is COMPLAIN, so that at least they can adjust their policies reasonable to suit their customers.

I also find it ridiculous that, in a desperate bid to defend Intercontinental bank, many here have hinted at these "small small charges" as the source of their workers' salaries and other running costs.  I guess many are completely ignorant of how much these banks make with customers' desposited cash alone.

Anyhow. . .  I'm out!

"Having reviewed all the reports of the examiners and the comments of the directors and deputy governors, I am satisfied that these five institutions are in a grave situation and that their management have acted in a manner detrimental to the interest of their depositors and creditors. Therefore, in exercise of my powers as contained in Sections 33 and 35 of the Banks and Other Financial Institutions Act 1991, as amended, and after securing the consent of the Board of Directors of the CBN, I hereby remove the Managing Directors and Executive Directors of the following banks from office with effect from Friday, August 14, 2009: Afribank Plc; Intercontinental Bank Plc; Union Bank of Nigeria Plc; Oceanic Bank International Plc (and) Finbank Plc." 

- CBN Governor; emphasis mine.   Source.


Where are the Akingbola faithfuls?

Just days ago when some of us were screaming here about Intercontinental bank (which I have no personal problems with by the way, since I do not operate an account with them), you all were defending them blindly without pausing to reflect on the grieviances of their frustrated customers.  You all interpreted it to mean most of us were only out to rubbish their image.

Anyway, I hope the scale has fallen off your eyes now.

darqly:
I trust her 100%.

[size=15pt] NO, NO, NO!!!  Big mistake!!

Rule #1:  NEVER trust any human 100%!  Maybe 99, but NOT 100!!!!
Rule #2:  ALWAYS remember Rule #1!!!!

Obey these rules, and you'll meet less disappointments in life. [/size]

littleb:
Because we are religious and moreso our culture does not encourages it.

It's funny when people say things like "it's not our culture to wear trousers".  People hold on so tightly to culture, forgetting that culture is not static.  They forget so easily that the shirts and trousers, shoes, etc they wear today were once NOT their culture.

What I've come to realise is that many Nigerians find it so difficult to seperate culture from religion.  We all act like culture is something God gave to individual countries.  Like God came one morning and said, "Nigeria, this is your own culture."  "America, this is your own."  "Egypt, hold on to this one."

Point is, culture is ADOPTED and it EVOLVES too!.  The same white man that saw the need to create trousers for men, in the long run, saw the need to create trousers for women as well. (Actually, some sources claim women started wearing trousers before men). Why cry foul then?  What we should be debating is whether Africans should be wearing trousers at all, since what some of us seem to have problems with is the "cultural" aspect of dressing, afterall, "it ain't our culture".   If you are such a big fan of culture, then you should probably be walking about covered with some animal skin, or even leaves covering only your vital parts.

Oh, and by the way, I wonder why no one picks on women wearing SHIRTS?  Or have we suddenly agreed that shirts are UNISEX? (This goes out to those who see "unisex" as a word the devil himself coined).

@davidylan

Okay, I know it's been a long time, like 3 yrs now. I just want to know if you still think it is "unbiblical" for Christian women to wear trousers.

kpofkpof:
ATM machines does not run on water, and even if it does run on water, water aint free in this country

I suppose, also, that other banks that do not charge a Kobo for withdrawing on their ATMs, do not run their machines on air either, which is absolutely free by the way.

Point is, rather than make excuses for their inadequacies, I would rather you advise them to run their ATMs on whatever it is other banks in Nigeria are using. Whatever "platform" they're running their machines on doesn't seem to be doing their customers any good.

kpofkpof:
The only thin is that they charge you N50 whenever you use the ATM machine and initially i didnt find it funny, but i am kind of cool with that now, afterall how else do u expect them to pay their workers and maintain the assest of the bank.

It's amazing how Nigerians accept everything with acquiescence, and to make matters worse, we make excuses for the very same people that exploit us!

You are charged N50 for withdrawing YOUR OWN money, and you think it's "cool"??!

Jeez. . .!!

Next Obama?? That metaphor is unreasonable if you ask me.

Is Obama the messiah of America, that we now similize him with our own anticipated, supposed saviour?

What exactly is exceptional about Obama AS A PUBLIC SERVANT apart from being the first (half?) black American president?

Sagamite:
What rubbish!

Is he saying first ladies and ex presidents are not entitled to security?

Not him. It's the Federal Executive Council (FEC). Onovo is just the enforcer.

Lady Dee:
or 'I want to be an artist!'  

And what's wrong with being an artist?

Anderson scores, finally!!

What a stunning freekick!!!

@doyin13

This is not about the "most complete tennis player".  It's about the GREATEST EVER tennis player.  So many things contribute to being a GREAT tennis player, which of course, primarily includes the ability to win grand slams.

Even at that, your 'analysis' is a moot one.  How many grand slams has Nadal's "completeness" won him?

For me, I give it to Roger Federer.  He not only won a record 15 grand slams, he won them all within a relatively short period.  He's simply the greatest player EVER to have handled a tennis racquet.

Well, the scoreline now reads:

FC Seoul 2 - Manutd 3 --- Rooney, Macheda, Berbatov!

The under 20 national team, the Flying Eagles made a bolt statement of their readiness for the forthcoming FIFA U-20 World Cup with a 11-0 annihiliation of Kenya Thursday afternoon.

It was clearly a mismatch as the Nigerians ran riot but it was a disappointing outing by the high standards of coach Samson Siasia who refused to praise his boys despite the cricket scoreline sings of an easy game had come the previous day when hosts of the five-nation tourney, Egypt hit the hapless Kenyans 7-1.

Source: http://www.completesportsnigeria.com/details.php?category=news&id=9151