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Culture / Re: The Igbos From Benin by RedboneSmith(m): 12:13pm On Nov 23, 2022 |
UGBE634: Okay, Good to know. It seems to be different from "Igboid" Ossai/Ohai which refers to a shrine/deity. |
Culture / Re: The Igbos From Benin by RedboneSmith(m): 10:42am On Nov 23, 2022 |
IgbuduMonkey: Excuse me. You say Ugbo, Ozegbe and Ossai are clearly Edoid. Ozegbe, I know to be Edo, meaning patience. Ugbo is a shared word meaning farm in both Igbo and Edo. Both languages are related Niger-Congo languages and share a good number of words in common. It cannot be taken for granted therefore that the Ugbo in question indicates Edoid roots. Now, how did you come to the conclusion that Ossai is an Edo word? This is a name/word that exists as Ossai/Ohai/Osayi across a number of Igbo-speaking spaces (including Nsukka in the East) and which also penetrated Igala as Ochayi. According to an Igbo dictionary by professor Echeruo, it means Juju. Can you explain what it means in Edoid and also find one Benin/Edo person who answers Ossai. |
Culture / Re: The Igbos From Benin by RedboneSmith(m): 6:04pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
IgbuduMonkey: The thing is, if you knew what my whole perspective is on the Benin origin theory, you will not be gbamming me oh. 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Nigerians Is There A Word For Carribeans In Our Languages? by RedboneSmith(m): 8:55pm On Nov 20, 2022 |
flowerpower23: Speaking for the Igbo, I would say, No. There's no word for them in the language. 1 Like |
Culture / Re: How Mutually Intelligible Are The Various Edoid Languages by RedboneSmith(m): 2:30am On Nov 20, 2022 |
Probz: People who maintain multiple accounts on this forum tend to think everyone does the same. With the way he is riled up by a simple non-aggressive contribution I made on mutual intelligibility across the Edoid lects, you can tell that we've clashed here before, where he was apparently using another account because I certainly don't remember this particular account. |
Culture / Re: How Mutually Intelligible Are The Various Edoid Languages by RedboneSmith(m): 1:02pm On Nov 18, 2022 |
AutomaticMotors: You don't have time to wallow in the dirt. Yet you have the time and the effrontery to come on a faceless forum and jump on my comment to tell me what posts I should and should not comment on, as the god, keeper and guardian of Nairaland that you are, abi? Onye ala. I am a nonentity but at least you know me. How else would you know I have been here for years? I on the other hand had no idea of your existence until you jumped on my comment seeking for attention this morning. I will also forget you the second I log off. But I apparently live rent-free in your head. Ukpana! 3 Likes |
Culture / Re: How Mutually Intelligible Are The Various Edoid Languages by RedboneSmith(m): 6:18am On Nov 18, 2022 |
AutomaticMotors:Oh please, shut your whole arsè up. If what I said was incorrect, then point out the inaccuracies and correct them. Otherwise, shut the fvck up. |
Culture / Re: The Igbos From Benin by RedboneSmith(m): 5:40pm On Nov 11, 2022 |
I've never bought into this 'homecoming'/'back-migration' theory. It seems just like an attempt to get around the 'Benin origin' theory. Eze Chima was not an Aro or an Nri priest who lived in Benin and then 'back-migrated'. That's an invention of contemporary times. 3 Likes |
Culture / Re: How Mutually Intelligible Are The Various Edoid Languages by RedboneSmith(m): 6:56pm On Nov 08, 2022 |
A Benin speaker will not understand an Urhobo speaker and vice versa. I think some Isoko people might be able to understand some Urhobo speakers, but I am not sure. Even within Isoko and Urhobo, there are some dialect groups that cannot easily understand each other. 2 Likes |
Culture / Re: Top 10 Largest Ethnic Group In Africa by RedboneSmith(m): 10:34pm On Nov 01, 2022 |
RestructureNig1: The Fulanis that are Nigerians are not more populous than the Igbo. But Fulanis are nationals in more than 18 countries in Africa. Add their total population and you may begin to understand how they could be more in number than the Igbo. |
Culture / Re: The Ogiso Of Bini & Ijaw Came From Ile-ife by RedboneSmith(m): 10:28pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
laiperi: Herodotus (a pioneer Historian of the Ancient World) was mentioned more than twice and false quotes were attributed to him. I fact-checked them, and the best you can come up with is "forget about Herodotus"? Boy, you're a joker. Did the writer lie with Herodotus' name or not? |
Culture / Re: The Ogiso Of Bini & Ijaw Came From Ile-ife by RedboneSmith(m): 8:52pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
laiperi: How is it a distraction or don't you understand chronology? Explain how someone who died around 425 BC could have written about an attack on Benin that happened in AD 1897. A full 2,321 years before the fact! Na Nostradamus im be? Show us where Herodotus wrote the things you people are claiming. The book is available online. Screenshot the page and bring, let's see. Stop telling unintelligent lies. |
Culture / Re: The Ogiso Of Bini & Ijaw Came From Ile-ife by RedboneSmith(m): 1:52pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
Syogbe: Herodotus who lived hundreds of years before Christ recorded the European attack on Benin which happened more than two thousand years later, in AD 1897? Ahn Ahn, boss. Fear God small na. |
Culture / Re: The Ogiso Of Bini & Ijaw Came From Ile-ife by RedboneSmith(m): 1:48pm On Oct 22, 2022 |
Syogbe: Again. This recently-minted lie that you people are spreading without shame. I have asked you people countless time to tell me where in his 'Histories' Herodotus mentioned Ife, let me go and check it out. I've had his book for years. It is on my shelf right now. I have read it. There was no mention of Ife in that book. There is no way Herodotus could have written the quoted sentence up there. How could somebody living in the BC era have written "between 3000 BC and 1000 BC"? People in his time were not reckoning time by BC and AD since Christ hadn't even been born yet. That quote is a fake, and an unintelligent fake at that! Tell us where in the book Herodotus said that, or share a screenshot of the page and let us read the words for ourselves. 1 Like |
Culture / Re: List Of Animals And Their Igbo Names. by RedboneSmith(m): 6:34pm On Oct 20, 2022 |
Legendforte: Nkịta ofia is not supposed to mean anything other than a wild dog or a feral dog. Some writers erroneously misidentify it as a fox, which it is not. 2 Likes |
Culture / Re: List Of Animals And Their Igbo Names. by RedboneSmith(m): 11:11am On Oct 20, 2022 |
Legendforte: The geographical spread of fox in Africa is limited to parts of North Africa and Ethiopia. Why should Igbos have a name for an animal that is unknown in their territory? It's like asking the Igbo name for penguin or kangaroo. 2 Likes |
Culture / Re: Ika People by RedboneSmith(m): 4:31pm On Oct 18, 2022 |
4teenblaq: Some of them are Benin names borne by Ika people in the old days when the influence of the Benin Empire in Ika land was still strong. Most modern Ika people don't bear them anymore or identify with them or know what they mean. But when Ika people are arguing with southeastern Igbos, they still like to refer to those names/words as if they are still current in Ika land. But you should be able to relate with names like Ehiedu and Ehiwario if you've lived in Agbor for over 20 years. 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Please Is This True About This Tribe? by RedboneSmith(m): 10:05pm On Oct 16, 2022 |
NSNO: Yes, it is like the Serengeti in the east. Once your bus crossed the Niger into Onitsha, a pack of flesh-hungry Igbos will run after your bus, crying for your meat. God help you if your driver is not skillful with the wheel! 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Why Are Igbo Slaves More Passionate About Alaigbo? Is It So With Other Tribes by RedboneSmith(m): 8:07am On Oct 16, 2022 |
This is a weird post. You haven't heard of: 1. Bishop Samuel Ajayi Crowther 2. Reverend Samuel Johnson, the descendant of ex-captives, who wrote the incomparable 'History of the Yorubas' 3. Frederick Haastrup who later became the Owa of Ilesa 4. The multimillionaires Candido da Rocha and 5. Deinde Fernandez who are descendants of Yorùba slaves who returned from Brazil 6. Pacifico Licutan, who was part of the Male slave rebellion in Brazil 7. Carlota Lucumi, who led a slave rebellion in Cuba 8. Osifekunde of Ijebu 9. Candido da Fonseca Galvao The list long. Most of the Yorubas of Lagos with English or Portuguese last names are descendants of slaves who returned, and they were some of the earliest educated professionals that Nigeria produced, including the grandfather of Nigerian nationalism, Herbert Macaulay |
Culture / Re: What Is The Original Name Of Africa by RedboneSmith(m): 8:08am On Oct 14, 2022 |
If you are looking for an original Africa-derived name for the continent, you won't find it. Nobody in Africa was conscious of the fact that we were on one continuous landmass, until cartographer and travellers from Europe and Asia charted the continent. 2 Likes |
Culture / Re: My Historical Perspective On Eze Chima And Western Igbos by RedboneSmith(m): 7:32am On Oct 10, 2022 |
Logicisfree2: And I am equally amazed by the inability of Nigerians to comprehend English and follow a simple argument. This is why they ask you people to write IELTS. I am the wrongest person to try to school on how colonialism contributed to creating most modern African ethnic groups. I've been saying it on Nairaland before it became fashionable to say it. Your Edo brother was actually the one insinuating that Asaba was linguistically and ethnically Edo up to 1875 (he didn't use the word 'ethnically', but the implication was in his post) , and my comment was asking for proof of that. If you're gonna come at me you have to at least be able to understand what is being said. 6 Likes |
Culture / Re: My Historical Perspective On Eze Chima And Western Igbos by RedboneSmith(m): 9:51pm On Oct 08, 2022 |
samuk: There's a whole lot of mischaracterization in this lengthy write-up. Taking it piece by piece would be depriving myself of my much-needed and getting into an argument loop. Yes, you're over-reaching, sir. And that's that on that. 6 Likes |
Culture / Re: My Historical Perspective On Eze Chima And Western Igbos by RedboneSmith(m): 7:27pm On Oct 08, 2022 |
bigfrancis21: His conclusions from Crowther's writings are over-reaching. Crowther writes about a migration from areas under Benin's sovereignty. There's nothing there about the ethnicity or linguistic pedigree of these migrants. Not every area under Benin's political sphere of influence was Edo, as every scholar of Benin history already knows. Asaba traditions actually speak of one of the pre-Nnebisi ancestors as Eze Anyanwu, who was connected to the royal line of Eze Chima. This 'Eze Anyanwu' is doubtless the embodiment of this migration from 'under Benin sovereignty' mentioned in Crowther's writings. It remains to be proven that this Eze Anyanwu, just like Ezechima, was ethnically Edo. The names would suggest not. And like Ezechima, it is much more likely that the migration was from more westerly parts of the Igboid-speaking Anioma area. 4 Likes |
Culture / Re: My Historical Perspective On Eze Chima And Western Igbos by RedboneSmith(m): 9:22am On Oct 04, 2022 |
samuk: Here we go again. The king now known as Oba of Benin was known among many Igbo-speakers as Eze Obodo Idu, so this means the Oba of Benin was formerly called Eze before he now started using Oba, abi? It is cultural arrogance on your part to think that what you call a foreign king was his original title and not the one he actually uses for himself. The Yoruba called the Etsu of Nupe 'Elempe'. I don't see anyone arguing that Elempe was the Etsu's original title. Ogie is king in Edo, so you simply called him the word for king in your language, just like an Igbo man would call King Charles III Eze ndi England, not because the British royal family uses 'Eze'. Logic 101. And you have already been told several times that the Obi of Ubulu-Ukwu is not one of the Obis of Anioma that claims Benin origin. The founder of the Ubulu ruling line was called Ezemu (note the Eze in his name) and he came from Afor. 7 Likes |
Culture / Re: My Historical Perspective On Eze Chima And Western Igbos by RedboneSmith(m): 11:55pm On Oct 02, 2022 |
I guess the first thing I should say here is to respond to the question: why didn't Ewuare seek refuge in Agbor? As a matter of fact, according to Agbor oral traditions, Ewuare actually did seek refuge at Agbor and not at Issele-Uku. I don't know how Aisen came to the conclusion that Ewuare fled to Issele-Uku; I'll very much like to read his book and his sources. Issele-Uku doesn't have traditions of Ewuare coming to their town, but Agbor does. Read the history of Agbor compiled by Iduuwe. Agbor tradition goes as far as to say that Ewuare's mother came from Agbor and that Ewuare merely took refuge at his mother's village. Issele-Uku's dynastic connection with Benin came in the 18th century, during the time of Akenzua. Nowadays, Issele-Uku tries to pretend their Benin connection is much older by claiming it goes as far back as Oba Ewedo. If you look at a list of Issele-Uku kings, there was no Benin name until the 8th king called Odia. This indicates the point at which the kingdom began to forge/cement dynastic links with Benin, probably under Akenzua. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Culture / Re: My Historical Perspective On Eze Chima And Western Igbos by RedboneSmith(m): 11:36pm On Oct 02, 2022 |
OP, you said some things on this thread that I'll like to respond to, but let me finish reading first. |
Culture / Re: Can I Masturbate While Bathing Native Spiritual Soap by RedboneSmith(m): 7:24pm On Oct 01, 2022 |
PrayWills: I just asked my native doctor friend. He said that if you drink the semen after ejaculation there will be no problem, since it means your body will not really lose anything and it will be like you never even came sef. |
TV/Movies / Re: BBNaija 2022 Live Updates Thread by RedboneSmith(m): 6:57pm On Sep 26, 2022 |
Probably the first time in history someone won a quiz by not answering ANY questions. This was just embarrassing. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Culture / Re: What Is The Meaning Of Your Name? by RedboneSmith(m): 4:42pm On Sep 25, 2022 |
Templee333: Yes, I could tell from the names. Onye means the same in Igbo. Onyema (who knows). Onyeka (who is greater). Onyedikachi (who is like God.) |
Culture / Re: The Oldest Kingdoms In Nigeria by RedboneSmith(m): 4:39pm On Sep 25, 2022 |
Moblux: See, this is the thing about how Nigerians argue that tires me. Instead of you to present the evidence that Herodotus referenced Ile-Ife in his book (which is what I am contesting) , you veered off and started talking about archaeological finds at Iwo Eleru. |
Culture / Re: The Oldest Kingdoms In Nigeria by RedboneSmith(m): 1:23pm On Sep 25, 2022 |
Moblux: I have already seen this claim made multiple times without any evidence provided. Before you know it, it will become sealed as fact in the minds of the not-so-bright. 2 Likes |
Culture / Re: What Is The Meaning Of Your Name? by RedboneSmith(m): 10:42am On Sep 25, 2022 |
I am getting the impression from the Efik names here that Anie in Efik is cognate with Onye in Igbo. |
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