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AutomaticMotors:
By Product show me where I have ever quoted you on nairaland are you not the "Ekita" that is always wagging his tail whenever he sees my comment? No be you dey always quote my post? Now who is the attention seeking Olosho among me and you? Like I told you earlier


P.S: Na your Papa, Mama and Entire family be Nkita!!

Show you where YOU have ever quoted ME on Nairaland? LOL!

I was TOTALLY unaware of your existence until you quoted me in the thread in the screenshot below. And since then you have been seeking my attention, butting in on threads where I was involved in arguments with other Edo people more deserving of my time.

Frankly, I would have been willing to humour you if you were half as intelligent as some of your brothers I sometimes engage here, but sadly you are dumber than a sack of potatoes and your contributions here are less than juvenile.

I know I have been on your radar for a long time (you said so yourself), even though I was until recently unaware of you. You are even beginning to have dreams of receiving oral from me. Sorry, son. Inasmuch as I count myself as an LGBT ally, I don't drive in that lane. You'll need to find someone else to crush on. And use a condom when you find him. The AIDS scourge in your community is still embarrassingly high.

AutomaticMotors:
Edo "By Product "

Redbonesmith

Stalking me around nairaland would do you no good!!

Calling someone a stalker and then going to his profile to nick his profile picture. But of course the irony will go right over your quite empty head.

Take my dike out of your mouth B4 you choke hoe

Gay much?

I'm tolerant of other people's sexual preferences. But you will do well to keep me out of your homoerotic fantasies ka nkịta ala rapụ ịlacha gị anya.

AKPAMA211:
what are the figures? Are you pointing to the 2006 census that is not credible, the Binis are well over 3.5 million. What will you consider the size of the itsekiris then given the fact that the Binis was considered five and half times larger in 1952

Edo/Benin people are not up to 3 million. Don't kid yourself.

Itsekiri are hovering around the one million mark.

AKPAMA211:
Not more than 2 million for a census you conducted

What is the population of Edo/Benin people then? (And don't include other Edoid peoples in Edo State.) All the figures in credible publications are hovering around 2 million. Some are even considerably less than that.

AutomaticMotors:
Ovbioba dey talk this "Byproduct" sef wan speak? You no reach for me to dey banter tribal issues with so when a "Proper Igbo" Person comes Ehen! Look this one oo Can you imagine

Nne gị by product. Ozu na-enwehụ aka ọrụ. Hopping around threads seeking for attention. Ejene chọọ ife Ị ya alụ. Akalogheli.

AutomaticMotors:
Rest! Nobody wan learn that dead language

Dead language. Lmao!

The audacity, coming from someone whose language is spoken by no more than 2 million people (assuming every Edo person can even speak their language sef.)

For every person who speaks Edo, there are more than 10 people who speak Igbo, and the language will live on long after yours is dead and forgotten.

steno1:
Now I understand why some people have hatred for some tribe/ethnic group. I have started developing strong hatred for Nsukka and her people.

"Oh, masquerades flogged me. Let me quickly make it about tribe and use it to excuse my prejudice towards certain people, because masquerades from other tribes never harass people. Boo-hoo!"

Deji07abcd5:
Really ? As Big As Will Smith is he can take anyone.

Lmao. If it was Dave Chapelle or DL Hughley that was up there telling that joke, Will would have stayed in his seat. Will is not a tough guy. He knew Chris wouldn't fight back; that's the only reason he went up there.

Tukpa8:
if igbo has no flag, then it is not an ethnicity na.

So igbo Nation has no flag? Wonderful.

Here is Ijaw flag

Since when did flags become the validation for ethnic groups? Political states have flags. Ethnic groups may or may not. More often than not ethnic groups do NOT have flags.

Also, you posted four different flags. Which one is it? Which one is the pan-Ijaw flag?

Enemyofpeace:
The "Bushbaby" tale, is it real or fake? Have you seen one before? Is it true that, when you collect their mats from them, you become rich and wealthy?

I think you're confusing two different things. Bush baby is different from the Yoruba mythical creature is whose mat confers wealth.

Bush baby is a real life primate called Galago. It's called bush baby because it's cry sounds like a human baby crying.

The Yoruba mythical spirit with the mat is known as Egbere. Totally different from bush baby.

Tukpa8:
when I said biafra flag, I mean igbo flag not the one ipob terrorist one

That doesn't make your point any clearer: there is no such thing as Igbo flag.

Tukpa8:
Opobos are Ijaw na... only Ijaw flag you can see in Opobo palace.... there is no biafra flag in it

Wait, do you think there is Biafra flag in the palace of the Igwe of Nnewi or the Eze of Owerri? What exactly do you think Biafra or the Biafra flag is?

Egyptians are a tad too touchy about this race thing though. This was how they blew a gasket when Louis Gossett Jr, a black American actor played Anwar Sadat. And then again when they lost their minds and wanted to boycott Kevin Hart's show because Kevin had said in the past that Ancient Egypt was black.

Oddly enough, they never say anything when pasty-white Europeans play Ancient Egyptians. Only when black people do so.

But with that said, Cleopatra probably looked nothing like that woman who played her on the Netflix show. She came from a long line of Macedonian (and therefore European) ancestry. Even if we concede that her mother was a native (and therefore brown) Egyptian, she would have still come out looking a lot more Caucasian than that actor.

odigbosky:
He said every Iyase of Benin once installed greets Lavbieze...He said the Eze is in relation to Eze Chima. He said Chima was once an Iyasere and he was not from Benin but present day Delta state...

The Iyase in question, who is remembered as Eze n'obodo iken (which means "the Eze who hails from a powerful state" could not have been Eze Chima, but he came from an Eze Chima-affiliated community.

Eze Chima lived in the time of Esigie (remembered in Anioma as Asije) with whom he was locked in butter conflict. The Iyase in question was appointed in the time of Orhogbua. His identity is not clearly known: there are traditions that he came from Onicha-Olona, but he could have come from Issele-Uku.

Of all the Kingdoms and societies within the Nigerian space which traded with the Europeans in the slave trade era, Benin was actually the least involved in the trans-Atlantic slave trade.

This post is a pile of steaming hot sh.it.

Chimamanda spoke of Professor Soyinka with respect in that interview. If you think that disagreeing with someone is equal to being disrespectful and uncultured, then go and run your logic-lacking emotional-dumpster head through a wall.

Really tired of all these emotional posts devoid of real reasoning. And it's ironic that it comes from the same people who always accuse Igbos of being too emotional.

Jones4190:
Peter Obi didn't tweet to welcome Muslims to the month of Ramadan

Peter Obi didn't congratulate Anthony Joshua for his victory yesterday

But today, Peter Congratulated one miss Chinalurumogu Eze for winning the 2023 Future Creative Leaders Academy (FCLA) Prize

Shameless B!got

This comment got 75 likes and 13 shares, despite the fact that the information it contains is FALSE? Smh. Una doh!

laiperi:
Duro,


Moreover, there are Indigenous Yoruba or Bini in Igboland including Onitsha (called YorubaIgbo).

You're yarning dust. There are no indigenous Yorubas in Onitsha. If you had said in Anioma in Delta (where the Onukwumi are domiciled), I would have said okay

Faber:
This forum is now a joke. November news being recycled.

Before, before when I come nairaland new, I speak with authority anything I see here. But now quote nairaland news at your own peril.

The abrogation of an equivalent title/position in Lagos recently makes this 'old news' particularly relevant today. But y'all are not ready to talk about that.

**long bored yawn**

Ologbo147:
Is there anyway you can send the entire text to my email, I would be so glad you did, if you have other books too, Benin studies by Bradbury, Benin mission by ryder you talked about in your argument on a thread with samuk

The file is too bulky to be sent via mail. What I can do is see if I can find a link online and then share that one.

Most of the books on Benin that I have including Benin Studies and Benin and the Europeans by Alan Ryder are hard copies.

Just realized you probably won't be able to access my drive, even with the link.

I'm hoping this screenshot from Lander would be enough. The entire thing would have provided more context.

Ologbo147:
he did not say in the 16th century, he said from, and he listed three towns, from this time which is the 16th century, these three towns, irrespective of when they were founded up till 1897, at one point or the other came under the Benin hegemony, and she came under Benin hegemony going by Lander's account just after the fall of Oyo

You're now playing with English. If someone says Obasanjo ruled from 1999 to 2007, it doesn't mean any year after 1999 but before 2007. It doesn't he could have started ruling in 2004. English is my forte. Let's not play that. Bradbury clearly didn't know Badagry didn't exist in the 16th century. When he wrote in the 1950s, most of the primary/contemporary sources on African history (especially those written in languages other than English) hadn't been well-studied.

On the Lander matter, I repeat, Lander NEVER said Badagry was under Benin. Lander met Adele, who was a Lagos prince, in Badagry. (He recorded his name as Adooley.) Adele had fled to Badagry with the skull of his late father, Ologun Kutere, who was the king of Lagos. Ologun's headless body had been taken to Benin for burial, but the skull was buried in Lagos. Adele exhumed the skull and took it with him to Badagry. This was the burial that Lander referred to. Not the burial of a king of Badagry.

Let me see if I can share Lander's journal from my drive. Posting screenshots won't be useful. You need to read the entire section on Badagry (from about page 6 or so) to understand what was being reported by him.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eiE-PfiEsDr2E5Wn7eAoKKfEOR5KF06-/view?usp=sharing

Ologbo147:
Oh you missed it here, you should have noticed that they are not the same document. You are the one that misread.

The documents I used in substantiating my Benin claim to Badagry was the Benin Kingdom and the Edo speaking people of southwestern Nigeria by R.E Bradbury

Lander who visited Badagry in 1830 reported that the corpse of the late chief of that town (Badagry town) has been sent to Benin and Landolphe reported that Wydah was tributary to Benin in his day

We can only infer that that was what he meant with this statement

On the west, Benin rule undoubtedly extended, at least from the 16th century, to Lagos,Badagry and Wydah

And he came below to substantiate it with this fact(The eye witness account at his disposal, that is what is there!

Lander who visited Badagry in 1830 reported that the corpse of the late chief of that town (Badagry town) has been sent to Benin and Landolphe reported that Wydah was tributary to Benin in his day

Bradbury was writing in the 1950s and he was in error. He either didn't read the text firsthand or be totally misunderstood it. I advise you to go to the direct source which is Lander's journal itself.

And there's no way Benin could have ruled Badagry in the 16th century (as that Bradbury screenshot claims) when the town didn't even exist then. Badagry was founded in the 18th century.

I do not argue that Benin wielded some influence in the Dahomey area in the 16th century, as there are contemporary accounts that allude to that. There are no contemporary accounts of political influence on Badagry.

Ologbo147:
Lander, who visited Badagry in 1830, reported that the corpse of the late chief of that town had been sent to Benin

As is quite common with some of you, you have misrepresented what you read. Lander did not say that the corpse of the late chief of Badagry was sent to Benin. Go back and reread that chapter. The corpse that was sent to Benin was the corpse of Adooley's father (i.e., Adele's father) who was the king of Lagos, not Badagry. Lagos was under Benin hegemony at the time, so this is not a big reveal.

Adele himself was in exile in Badagry at the time of Lander's visit, following a succession tussle with his brothers in Lagos. Badagry people had welcomed him and made him their ruler. It was here in Badagry that Lander met him, and he told Lander about his father, the late king of Lagos whose headless body was sent for burial in Benin. But you have mixed things up to say that it was a chief of Badagry whose remains were sent to Benin.

There's no record of Badagry being under Benin hegemony. What the sources say is that it was under Oyo hegemony, at least in the late 18th century and possibly later.

oluztx:
And more telling, he married an Igbo woman, similar pattern with Gov Adeleke, Desmond Elliot and GRV, all married Igbo women too.

Seyi Tinubu did not marry an Igbo woman, and neither did Desmond Elliott.

DodadaKoKigbe:
Another Ibo heating up the polity with 'Lagos is Edoland.' Even the Edo people have rested the case but trust Ibo man to look for trouble and run away when trouble start. Shay na Oba of bin send you or you're just doing it for IPOB? If na Oba of bini send you, tell that fat gay boy village headmaster to come and collect Lagos if e sure am?

You people will always scapegoat Igbos even when they are jejely minding their business. 😂

When did Edo people rest the case? There is a 'Lagos belongs to Benin' post every other day on this platform and other platforms by Edo people. But if una no drag Igbo people enter any matter, una no go fit sleep.

LOL. Yoruba tailors in particular have carved a niche for themselves in the Southeast. There's no place I go to in Enugu and Anambra that I don't see at least one Yoruba tailor's shop, where he is sewing madt native for the people, and they are heavily patronised. May they continue to prosper. I met a Yoruba man Taofeek in Anambra who has made a fortune from repairing automobiles. Guy has built at least one house in Anambra. May he continue to prosper. While those who have appropriated the title of 'most accommodating' rise up every four years to unleash terror on 'omo Igbo' and light-skin omo Igbo-looking people in their midst.