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Hmmm super star. Every lizard na alligator. |
YSA06:I hope so but it is not as simple as that. The proportion of people who go to the polls remains about 20% good governance 80% sentiment. If it was good governance alone both GEJ and GMB will not rule. |
natureblack:Hmmm. No comment yet....let me observe for a few months and decide by the summer. So far nothing. Abuja is quiet. |
jayfolarin:If you are ready to make the necessary sacrifices which I honestly doubt. It will take a few more years of difficulty to reboot this country. |
Paulgotti:Yes indeed. Tell that to the mobs in South Africa that not one has the monopoly of senseless acts of racist violence. If it is unemployed urchins you want Nigeria has them in abundance. Our standard of living is lower than that of South Africa and our unemplyment rate is higher so we have every reason to be uninformed and violent. In the midst of our own sufferings we have Ghanian traders, Togolese craftsmen, Nigerien hustlers, Lebanese (abeg make I no talk) but never have we taken out our frustrations on them to this extent. We rather turn on ourselves and our leaders. That is what your people should be doing. Turn on your government and your crazy king who live in luxury while you suffer. |
callmelanner:And who is crying here. We are angry and you are talking nonsense. Do you know what Nigeria lost economically because of our support for the anti-apartheid movement. Do you know now many multi nationals closed down business in Nigeria in the 70's and 80's at the height of the struggle. Ask your parents about job losses both home and abroad then. Julius Berger was not the foremost construction company operating here but because they were german and apolitical they entered while the Britis and Americans left. You are complaining of fuel subsidies today resulting from lack of refining capacity. Do you know that Shell and Esso were operating filling stations and could have been running refineries if not for our indigenisation policy as a result of apartheid. We had the foreign investment we are begging for today so let no idi.ot threaten us with job losses because we have gone the full cycle because of that damn country. |
This man is very silly. Is this what to say at a time like this. To threaten us with job losses ON BEHALF of South Africa. Who do these stupid people think they are. Leave the country please and your business rivals will roll out the red carpet at MMIA. You commend the Nigerian High Commission, threaten Nigerians but what have you said to your bosses, what have you said to your South African country men, what have you said to your silly king because you don't sound like a Nigerian at all. Hopeless display of acute buffoonery on display. Shame on you man. |
Recurrent expenditure is a millstone round Nigeria's finances. That's why the proposed welfare schemes of the APC led government worries me. Can you really afford to pay people without work when those with a life time of service go hungry. Does it make any sense. |
ozoigbondu:'Wiked Wike??. Hmmm. Very comforting indeed. |
EggovinMma:Hmmm. Extra catapault indeed. Are you a hunter....on secont thoughts what a foolish question... |
tete7000:Said enough about fuel. Clearly Nigerians are the cause of this mess and the reason we will remain in a mess perpetually. Remove subsidy they say no. Rather they want more subsidy. On another thread Obiageli was speaking about raising taxes for social programs. Just how many social programs can a struggling economy support. You want dirt cheap fuel and on top of that pay the poor to buy the cheap fuel. Haba. Who will pay for all that. From where I come the only way out of poverty is hardwork and sacrifice not hand outs. Nigerians are the cause of her poverty |
PassingShot:This is what I am saying. How do you expect him to criticise the party he supports. That was your job. His job now is to criticise your party, your government because you won't naturally do so. |
Hmmm. The beauty of democracy is that people have to and often get informed to get ahead and sometimes stay ahead. There is nothing wrong in making campaign promises way out of the norm. Any one who desires to really excel sets seemingly unachievable targets and works towards them to the extent that though they may not be attained, improves the state of the person. To say Nigeria cannot raise its revenue base in the short, medium or long term is just ridiculous. Plugging waste and increasing efficiency for instance can double our earnings overnight. However for the sake of an academic argument the facts are clear. Budgets are subjective. They are not one plus one. They contain a lot of assumptions and thus experienced economists build a lot of safety mechanisms to bring them in line. One of such assumptions is the 2 million barrels x 365 days. Is this the minimum, maximum or average. Second, the 60 or so dollars is a bench mark or in layman's terms, the market price. Anyone who buys and sells stuff knows that that price is not cast in stone. Refiners negotiate prices per cargo. Oil is delivered on contract. Contracts are negotiated. There are so many other points of education. Someone mentioned solid minerals. The infrastructure required to make the industry viable from mine to market is not there. It doesn't take a genius to note that if DeBeers and Rio Tinto and the other Chinese giants are not banging at our gates it is because there just isn't any attraction. Something is basically wrong about our decades old hallucination about solid minerals. Finally the politicking. I say it again. Anyone who thinks the Buhari led government should not be taken to task for whatever reason is just not serious. The standard to which the out-going regime took freedom of speech and freedom of information and from which the APC benefitted from cannot suddenly stop or be reversed and I repeat again. Democracy only works with an effective opposition. No true APC member will hold Buhari accountable for campaign promises. It is his opponents the masses are hoping that will compel him to perform. |
In Nigeria it is bad manners to talk while eating. She wanted to show her fellow prayer warriors that she has a hotline to heaven. Now heaven has answered. |
superstar1:You don't want the President held accountable. Are you asking for autocracy. You will not enjoy that. |
Mogidi:That is the spirit of democracy. Carry on. |
chiedu7:Very good. And faith is a product of knowledge. Knowledge creates calm and confidence shortens conversations. That is how it works. The bible said of Jesus, He always knew what to do. So one word was enough to relocate demons. No stress. His teaching of the Lord's Prayer is an executive summary not a lengthy constitution. |
The Bible always encourages us to think of our earthly fathers when we find relationship with our heavenly father misunderstood. How does a 'normal' son relate to a 'normal' father in conversation, mannerism and speech. I believe they are quite similar to God's. Using myself as an example concerning length of time. Very short, affectionate and instructive as a child. Longer, more purposeful and candid as an adult. But fun too. I have consulted for my dad involving long hours in meetings. I have spent long periods in family based conversations. Apart from that I hardly speak longer than five minutes. We both know wihat to expect. So it is with God Almighty. It really depends on the subject matter. One thing for sure whether it is dad or Jehova, a long conversation will be at their instance not mine. It will be them talking and me listening. I cannot imagine calling up my dad and chatting on and on, about what. That is why I cannot understand when people say they pray for hours or days on end. What are they saying. I think onlookers are mistaken. When people go up to the mountain for a meeting like Moses, like Jesus for long periods believe you me, the bulk of the time is spent listening. In our time to the voice of the spirit. That can take long not our prayers. Forget it. He knows what you say before you even think it. Listening on the other hand is lost on most Christians and they often miss God as a consequence. |
Yeah, we Nigerians love our daily dose of gossip, racial slurs and religious zealotry. So who is the ultimate trender over the years.....Tonto, D'banj or Goodluck Jonathan |
Subsidies are purely political decisions. They have no economic benefit whatsoever. And since the incoming regime is tanked up with enormous good will an early strike at removal is vital before political capital ebbs away over the course of the next four years. Down with subsidies. Government has no business in business. |
Yes, at the height of the cold war between a Nigerian led pan-african bloc against the west over, guess what....apartheid South Africa. How poignant. It was Nigeria at her diplomatic zenith but the economy was in tatters. A lot of horse-trading had to be done. I can imagine Carter saying. 'General, get out of power, hand over to a democratically elected government and we will lift the economic siege on your country...' And the generals nods thoughtfully and says '....after the Boers set sail for London Mr. President....' |
OrlandoOwoh:False. As a certain thread was closed down yesterday on the South African racist attacks I was alluding to the price Nigeria paid in the liberation struggle. Spare me a few moments and note the time lines. For starters it is well known that Yakubu Gowon was the last Nigerian Head of State to be received warmly and on equal terms in Bukingham Palace. After his ouster Nigeria under General Murtala took on the apartheid regime headlong. Nigeria became the pre-eminent voice of the international anti-apartheid movement. This pitted us in the UN and in other world capitals first against our colonial overlords Britain (strong backers of the racist regime) then the US (Britains ally). In the process we lost the 'special relationship' Europe has with her former colonies (the kind Francophone countries enjoy and other Anglophone countries such as Ghana, the Gambia and S/Leone). We have not recovered that till date. The late Murtala didn't care. He ramped up action, calling for boycotts of S/A and fuelling a new pan-african renaissance which led to FESTAC amongst others. Britain retaliated by dis-investing from Nigeria massively in most industries (except oil, obviously, and leading to the Lebanese and Indian influx of that period) . But this was beginning to hit our economy. By the time Murtala was assasinated and Gowon fled to his motherland Britain (I refuse to believe they had a hand in that but...) our economy was going down. Coupled with the low oil prices an infruriated Obasanjo nationalised all oil assets and kicked out all European IOC's. The backlash was bad and our economy tanked. We were effectively isolated to the world but our African stock stood higher than ever before. You know the west. They don't give up. The pressed and pressured for democracy as a panacea to our problems. Obasanjo caved in, Shagari stepped in and the money started flowing again. The summary is this. If not for Murtala's pan africanism Nigeria at worst will have had a standard of living at par with middle income South Africa. We lost so much in our fight against apartheid. We sacrificed our economy and relationships with the west for Africa. We turned from their friends to their rivals and had the misfortune of playing against some of the meanest presidents and prime ministers in America and the UK at that time. No it was not FESTAC that did us in. FESTAC was merely an expression of what grounded us. Pan-africanism. That is why OBJ remains highly respected in international circles as an african diplomatic warrior. That is how we got our honour as the giant of africa. Not by population or economy but by sacrifice and goowill. That is why he was brought back again in 1999 to get the anti-abacha foreign pro democracy sanctions off our backs. That is why he went roaming round the world trying to convince them Nigeria is back and loyal. But see what is happening to us and other africans in S/A. That is why it hurts so much. Can they restore our lost decades of development. They bring us MTN, DSTv and Shoprite. We had better than these foreign investments prior 1976. Can they replace the lost scholarships, grants and co-operation in many fields only restored during the Shagari era. Most importantly can the South Africans restore the unending mistrust between Nigeria and the West. No. If there was any spell cast on us it was the spell that made us look with compassion on Mandela and his co-travellers languishing hopelessly in prison and casting in our lot with the suffering people of South Africa and taking on a super-power on their behalf. These days it feels like a really bad spell. |
TheGoodJoe:And do you know the PDP split because of Jonathan's ambition to contest for a second term. Without that split will the APC have won, no. But that is politics. People vote for all sorts of reasons. It has been my complaint. The average northerner voted GMB because they felt it was the best opportunity at grabbing power back. Why should the average Rivers man apologise for sectional voting. Please if you must have principles apply them across board. What is good elsewhere is good in Rivers. Vice President Sambo lost in his kitchen and people are happy. Amaechi loses in his state and Rivers people are castigated. Why. In Lagos we saw a Jimi Agbaje torn to shreds in the media for not only opposing the order but soliciting the support of 'foreigners' to plan a 'coup'. He eventually lost and was gracious in defeat. Rivers people too are saying to Jimi Amaechi, it is unacceptable to stand against the order and connive with 'foreigners'. This is a structural problem. It is bad but what is good in Lagos is good in Rivers. Whenever such negative attitude will change, it must change for all and not just the Rivers man or the east. |
ddippset:The Supreme Court is not a restaurant where you order meals. To get there you need purpose, drive, backing and loads of cash. Wike helped provide that. And the judges read papers, hear news and weigh cases so don't state it as if supreme court judges are wandering around like vendors looking for the aggrieved to administer justice to. Anyway hope you know your man has thrashed the judiciary in Rivers state. If he doesn't gain favour in Abuja we will know why. He is such a poor politician. |
ddippset:That is the fact you choose to ignore. Politics is a game of numbers. It is a popularity contest not a beauty contest. It was clear in the run up to the PDP primaries that it was only Wike who could recover the ticket and the PDP did all to put Wike forward. The APC banked on the Amaechi who is error prone and it not surprising they put Peterside a light-weight candidate (who will not usurp or overshadow Amaechi). Unfortunately the gamble has not paid off. Good administrator he may be, he is a poor politician and I blame the APC for not schooling him on the art of power play. The route taken by the APC in 16 years of opposition to the Presidency is lost on Amaechi. |
ddippset:Gej has congratulated Buhari and the PDP has moved on, even the APC national hierachy. I think it is you who is sore. Visit Rivers State. 4 out of 5 support Wike. That is a fact, elections or not. He has been a popular fellow before Amaechi's first term. And anyway he was not on the ballot so I wonder why you are so upset he lost. Pally wake up. He did not contest. It was Peterside who did and believe you me, Peterside is just too light-weight as far as Rivers politics is. |
TheGoodJoe:Please Oga and the rest of you guys. It is Peterside and Wike that contested. To the best of my knowledge Amaechi has done his two terms so why the constant mention of him. In Lagos it was clear, the battle was between Ambode and jimi. So what exactly is happening in Rivers State. Why talk about Amaechi all over the place. |
cococandy:The same election Jonathan lost for that matter. Well if INEC is flawed then all results can be called into question. This will be the case of the one that was caught. Many others are there. |
garrix8:Okay. Senators are christians saved by grace. Executives are Jews saved by the law. And perhaps the Judiciary are Angels that donot sin. Hmmm. No wonder the bible says the law leadeth only to death. I'm sure it meant lawmakers in Nigeria. Corruption in Nigeria is as amor |
Jibola10:That is what you were doing before your party came to power. Were you 'sad' and 'bitter'. I tell you these are the ONLY folks to remind us all of the campaign promises when some of us will conveniently choose to forget. It is the only way democracy works, please understand and don't be upset....heck, be upset na....democracy works better when people are upset. |
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