₦airaland Forum

frosbel: Thank God for universities like these !

Do you know that many of these universities offer scholarships and financial assistance to students from poor backgrounds ?

I used to think like you , until I saw it first hand.

Also they will educate your child while providing them with the moral guidance they need to cope during their working life.

you are full of BS. Which moral guidance? Don't use a phone, do not wear jerseys, you are not allowed to think like an adult, you must come to the assembly hall with a bible or risk being suspended. Are those what you call moral guidance?
Scholarships huh? Show us evidence not claims.

frosbel: This article is misleading.

Besides the ministries help poor students with scholarships and bursaries - Fact !!

So the rich pay so that the poor can learn - Fact !!!

bloody lies!!!
Can you show us in their websites where they say anything serious about scholarships and burseries with facts and figures besides general statements and claims. These church owned schools are run in mafian style.

Acidosis: Poster stop justifying yourself with lies. Where did you get those data from? No school pays that per semester. They pay per session i.e yearly. Some madonna students even pay less than 150 k depends on your course of study. If school fee is 650k as you generalised, would a medical and a sociology student of Babcock pay the same?

Madonna pays per semester and it is nothing less than 200k irrespective of your course. These Fucking church schools are a rip off.

jeffizy: The real problem I think stems from the fact that most of these students were in diapers during the June 12 struggle.
Thus, their inability to recognise the bearer of their new skul name.
Awon omo yen kere gan!

Lets be sincere and call a spade a spade. The real reason behind the strong opposition to the renaming of UniLag has more to do with the character of the man whose name was used. I refuse to fall for all that shout about UniLag being a brand bla bla bla. . . Abiola does not deserve the honour of being named after a reputable school like UniLag. He was a politician who rode on the back of a tiger and eventually ended up in the belly of the tiger. June 12, in the real sense was not about Abiola but democracy and the real brave Nigerians that died defending the mandate they Nigerians gave to him, Abiola who unfortunately bailed out of the country when ordinary Nigerians were dying en mass fighting and defending the man. I have little respect for the man on that basis I believe that is the true reasons people are against the name change above any other thing else.

ikdom: The great ZIK of Africa said before he died, that he will rise from his grave if University of Nigeria Nsukka is renamed after him. There was no UNIZIK at the time he made this statement. The honour, pride and legacy in the name Unilag has just been ripped off, let's see if the new generation can resotore that same pride, honour and legacy to the new name MKO Abiola University. Great Akokites!!!

Will you stop writing nonsense and spreading ignorance. When did Zik make such a Dumb statement? Are they yours or Zik's....rubbish!

Now I think this is begining to take another dimension. What exactly is the fuss here. I mean this students don't get it. Are they worried about the man's character or the fact they can't been seen as MAU babes, the latter looks dumb to me. Abeg this should not be about some stoopid ego boost, if they want to protest it should be based on substance not this childish reason.

Ngwakwe: Abiola deserve it because he was killed by the establishment for claiming his right. He never ran away as some would have, and this helped in creation of many strong civil societies against anti-people policies

guy you are deluded and don't know what you are yapping about.
He was killed by the Establishment he was very much part of, he funded the establishment and publicly defended its policies. Unless you were not born during the riots caused by the elections he was alleged to have won, especially in Lagos, it claimed many lives and nobody knew where Abiola was. People were busy rioting, risking their lives, even with stray bullets weezing indiscriminately from the barrels of soldiers, Abiola bailed out. He eventually came out when he realized Abacha who told him that IBB wanted to kill him had all along lied to him. It was too late for him then as Abacha was already in charge, he prolly thought Abacha was a small fry compared to IBB when he declared himself as the president of Nigeria. That was what got hin into jail, the rest was history for him. Homeboy was no Hero, he was a phucking corrupt money bag that lived and died by the dictates of the dirty games he was playing.

Pukkah: The fact that Abiola studied Accounting (not economics) and graduated with a first class was publicly known by informed people BEFORE he joined politics in the second republic. It did not start today.

publicly known or public propaganda? Lmao!!! Guy go and verify your claims jor. Abiola was not an upright man afterall. Even fellow detribalized Yorubas will tell you without mincing words that Abiola was a dubiois character. Little wonder there is a serious protest against the move. .lol.
Lets be sincere and call a spade a spade. The real reason behind the strong opposition to the renaming of UniLag has more to do with the character of the man whose name was used. I refuse to fall for all that shout about UniLag being a brand bla bla bla. . . Abiola does not deserve the honour of being named after a reputable school like UniLag. He was a politician who rode on the back of a tiger and eventually ended up in the belly of the tiger. June 12, in the real sense was not about Abiola but democracy and the real brave Nigerians that died defending the mandate they Nigerians gave to him, Abiola who unfortunately bailed out of the country when ordinary Nigerians were dying en mass fighting and defending the man. I have little respect for the man on that basis I believe that is the true reasons people are against the name change above any other thing else.

Lets be sincere and call a spade a spade. The real reason behind the strong opposition to the renaming of UniLag has more to do with the character of the man whose name was used.
I refuse to fall for all that shout about UniLag being a brand bla bla bla. . . Abiola does not deserve the honour of being named after a reputable school like UniLag. He was a politician who rode on the back of a tiger and eventually ended up in the belly of the tiger. June 12, in the real sense was not about Abiola but democracy and the real brave Nigerians that died defending the mandate they Nigerians gave to him, Abiola who unfortunately bailed out of the country when ordinary Nigerians were dying en mass fighting and defending the man.
I have little respect for the man on that basis I believe that is the true reasons people are against the name change above any other thing else.

Pukkah: Is it a new piece of info in the public domain that Abiola made a First class degree in Accounting from Glasgow? Where is the propaganda in this? It's a pity the way this country is going.

dude, the claim of Abiola graduating with a first class is BS. I am yet to see a recognize source with such claims, so far, what I have seen are different accounts of what he studied and got a 1st class for. Some say economics, another says account then there is another claim of management. . . Guy, these larger than life discriptions show it is all about embelishment jare!! The man was a politician remember He can spin his story anyway he wants.

porka: Oga, the man, Abiola, is learned. He held a First Class Honors Degree in Accounting from the City of Glasgow University, Scotland.

hahahahahha....who made 1st class, MKO?
Propaganda is a biatch. Where is your source? Let me guess, Wiki? Hahahahahhaha. . . . Guy you need to update the hard drive of your brain walahi. As if that is not laughable enough,the claim is that he got a first class in Political economy, commercial law and management accountancy. .lol . . Nigerians can be funny sha. It is obvious, that is some stoopid journalistic embelishment to rep the man and make him look like an eistein.

yd849ja: .



And can you please come forward with those xlear facts of what he did to the Nigerian polity? Please I need facts, hard facts not hear say please?

hahahah...guy you are not talking to a kid, the man was a highly corrupt money bag, like many Nigerians, I got to know the real Abiola through the ITT scandal. Abiola's history is not far fetched, it happened just a few years ago. There was more to Abiola's travail than meet the eyes. What you read about Abiola in the dailies is what the southwestern print media wants you to know and see. My dear, Abiola was not your average saint or upright politician with a good heart. The man played hard and died hard. Whatever achievment the man made was achieved riding on the back of a tiger and expectedly, he ended up in the stomach of the tiger. He became a hero brcause the establishment he once wined and dined with turned its back against him. What you don't understand is that even amongst the Yorubas, Abiola had more real enemies than real friends, they were actually the reason he never became president. Ask OBJ why it never occured to him to rally round for his release after he, OBJ was released from jail. Instead, he waited out for the man's death and then declared his intention to run.
If you wants facts about Abiola's heavy politicking I will oblige with an avalalanch but first, you need to give me reasons of his squeaky clean, Nelson Mandela kind of image you have of him. Back it up with facts, then we can talk.

deandavid: those school and stadium u talking about, were they federal? Do u mean mko abiola doesnt deserve this recorgnision? If i may ask, how old were u in 1993? U still a kid i guess. Do u knw oau used to be unife? No wonder the bible says, a prophet is nt accepted in his own town. SMFH

Yes of course, MKO Abiola does not deserve any recognition, the man got what he deserved. He was no different from the rogues that run the government then and even now. He was a victim of his own high-handed politics with the khaki boys. Need I remind you of his numerous money making schemes and corrupt enrichment? What exactly did he do to deserve the kind of accolades being showered on him? Even Bill gates is yet to get the kind of National recognition that Abiola has gotten so far. I mean, Gates' philantropy is incomparable, the man's giving is not even inspired by any politics unlike Abiola who started philantropy because he was nursing the ambition of becoming a president. How much of philantropy did he do outside of the southwest? At least I Know Rochas has many school foundations outside of the SE, point to one Abiola did outside of his comfort zone? Are you telling me that if Abiola was not your tribesman giving his character you would have accepted whole heartedly that UNILAG be turned to Abiol bla bla to imortalize him. He and his wife have already been immortalized so why change every goddam parastatal to Abiola's name. The man is not even that learned. As much as I love Ojukwu, I will be mad if Jonathan in his bid to play his stooopid politics of appeasement changes UNN to OJUKWU University. That is gross and wrinks of mediocre politics, there are are way better people with sterling achievements than Abiola whose names still would have caused a stir let alone a corrupt money bag like Abiola that was busy enriching himself and got his finger burnt in the process. Abeg call a spade a spade, Abiola was not all that he is repped up to be by the south western news media propaganda, a lot of us still have very xlear memory of what he realy did to the Nigerian polity, he is not any different.

Serioisly, some of you need to get off your high horse with the way you lot keep making the issue about yourselves and the phucking schools you went to(like anyone gives a 4ck).
What the school authority did is exploitative and a deliberate move to wield absolute powers. All these nonsense happens because the bodies that are supposed to keep these clownish Universities in Check are compromised and too lethargic to know their duties.
There is absolutely no justification to stop a graduating student from convocating with her coleagues just because she did not do well in certification peogram that is not part of her academic curriculum in the school, just an affiliation certification program that can be written a thousand times whether or not one is in the University. It is not even a recognize certification to begin with. It is like a federal school stopping a graduating student because they did not do well in their AfriHub exam, like seriously, is it part of the NUC certified curriculum? I have always said that that it is high time concerned authorites look into barefaced robbery and open exploitation of the students of these privately run Universities. Their V.C obviously do not know much about school management, most of them don't even have any serious academic pedigree. They become V.Cs by virtue of their positions in the church or organization that owns the school. Oyedepo for instance has no business being a V.C of secondary school let alone a University, little wonder they come up with weird rules and regulations that have no bearing on the academic enlightenments of the students. Imagine adults being treated like toddlers, you are not to use a phone, you must attend the assembly with a bible, you can't have an opinion contrary to the school management, you are not allowed to make mistakes and learn from it, matter of fact, you are not allowed to even think without the aid of the overbearing owners of the school looming manacingly in your thoughts. Universities that are run like primary schools.
As if that is not enough they introduce all sorts of money making schemes to extort the students, their standards are so mediocre and hypocritical. At times, I wonder why People spend so much on these jokes they call Universities when they can easily pay a little and get their kids and wards to study abroad in schools that have very good academic pedigree and standards not all these childish University set up with no serious substance, just churches and private individuals capitalizing on the rots in our system to exploit parents. Funny enough, all of them are still viewed with scorn outside of Nigeria, who will take a University like BU, CU, madonna and co seriously with the way the schools are run by mediocre people with no experience and pedigree.
Imagine with such a fine CGPA, she still was treated with such scorn like the real school work don't matter, the school management is more interested in wielding its absolute powers and proving her point, the students academic well being means shit to them, she can either forfeit her certs or pay through her nose for an affiliate exam program arranged by the school and some smart ass to make money. GOD punish THEM!!

Some of you like to dey yarn nonesense without first understandin the issues being discussed.
Like Afrihub for instance, it is a fucking certification course of no value, students dont take them seriously, me for instance did not even bother to write it cos I know it is all about the money to them, so I paid the damn cash and got a reciept for my clearance. It should have no bearing on the person's passing out, that's bullshit and pure daylight robbery. It is not even part of your academic curriculum, so why make somebody pay so much for it and spend another two to three months in school for it, aint that gross. Our private schools mediocre walahi!

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Hello Rhymz,

I have been waiting for quite sometime now (a week) for your response but it has not been forthcoming. Am I to assume that you have found my words to be true? If this is so, then I give praise to God for revealing the truth to you (I believe you have studied scripture to come to such a conclusion and not merely taken my words for it). If it is so that you now have found it to be true through scripture that Paul really did not in any way distort christianity, then please I implore you to be noble enough to publicly renounce the statements of Nafata and Lewis that you once stood by and declare them to be the heresies they really are in light of your new-found truth. God bless you.[/quote]my dear friend, sorry I am yet to respond to you. I have been very busy lately and my internet connection just got exhausted, I shall reply very soon once I am fully back online, prolly by 2morro or next. Thanks for your patience.

Spirit of Okija: Wow!!

I must have struck a chord .. See insults na!!

Let me start by apologizing to all the Umunna's, I didnt say those things to hurt anybody.. Its just Okija Juju being an a'ss. I had no idea y'all would take me so seriously.. That said...

Lets all calm down and relax.. This issue as far as Nairaland is concerned is just a debate, but we never know who is watching and hiding behind these user names.. O well, heres my 1 cent on this issue;

Serious face on!!

1. As it stands, the first problem we Ndi Igbo need to take care of is internal. We have to settle all differences between us. E.g is the issue I raised before of one Igbo State being more Igbo than the other.. We may trivialize this but best believe that it is an issue that somewhat exists amongst us.. Would the Anambraians, Imo, Abia and Enonyi consider a Delta man Igbo enough to represent us even if he is the most qualified amongst all the candidates?! Would he gather the same amount of votes as would an Anambra candidate and all.. Would a Pat Utomi enjoy the same popularity in Anambra State as an Okonjo-Iweala or a Ken Nnamani, Would Imo support an Okotie as they would an Okorocha?! Dont answer, just food for thought..

2. One candidate of repute and nothing more.. The Fiasco of 2003, 2007 & 2011 where we had

2003 Igbo Candidates;

Col. Dim Chukwuemeka Ojukwu running under All Progressive Grand Alliance (APGA),
Sen. Ike Nwachukwu running under National Democratic Party (NDP)...

also that of 2007 where it got worse with

Orji Uzor Kalu under Progressive People Alliance (PPA),
Chukwuemeka Odimegwu Ojukwu with All Progressive Grand Alliance (APGA),
Chris Okotie with Fresh Democratic Party (FDP),
Pat Utomi Afican Democratic Congress (ADC),
Emmanuel Okereke African Democratic Congress (ADC),
Maxi Okwu Citizens Political Party (CPP),
Batholomew Nnaji with Better Nigeria Party (BNP).. To name a few..

AND YET AGAIN in 2011 we had;

Pat Utomi (Social Democratic Mega Party),
Chris Nwaokobia (Liberal Democratic Party),
Chris Okotie (Fresh Democratic Party),
Nwadike Chikezie (Peoples Mandate Party),
Peter Nwangwu (African Democratic Congress).. Amongst others..

This is just plain stupid.. A house divided against itself cannot stand.. If this repeats itself in 2015 or 2019 whichever one we decide on, we would fail yet again.. Its cute to sit in the comfort of your houses and clamour for a Presidential candidate but look at the subtle division amongst our ranks..


3. Geographically speaking we dont have enough population strenght to pull off this on our own.. We cant even force a run-off election on our own.. Alliances need to be formed.. The Yorubas would have to be brought onboard as well as the South-South and even the Middle belt.. These alliances would not be easy to form so the work would have to start now.. not last minute. .

4. Credible Candidate.. This one is of utmost importance as well.. If he has a visible blemish on his robe, do away with him.. Our candidate must have a pristine record, a history of achievements and most be someone that has a wide appeal across ethinicities.. This should not be taken for granted..

5. Biafra.. This Biafra matter should at no point during this crusade be brought up.. This issue can destroy everything for us. MASSOB would have to be put on a tight leash.. We cant have them running around acting a fool and scaring away the alliance..

6. Ohaneze had better get their act together especially as they are supposed to be the ralling point for Ndi Igbos. They have their work cut out for them and the earlier they realize that the race isnt easy, the better their preparations would be..


This issue sounds easy on paper, but the work is difficult. Make hay while the sun shines..


P.S: It dosent matter where I come from.. Igbo or not, I am Nigerian First and foremost until such a time as when Nigeria stops existing!! And inasmuch as Alj_Harem and I are two different physical entities, I have accepted him as my e-alta ego.. Now let that subject die as well..

Alusi Okija... The gods are not to blame cos' THE GODS ARE WISE...

@Okija-Juju
1. Let us not muddle up our points and aims here, our demands are very clear and realistic. The matter here is not just about having a Nigerian President that is just Igbo. I believe our politics in Nigeria is very territorial, it will be folly and sheer display of political naivety to not put the sub-region of the interested Igbo canditate in consideration when debating about whom the Igbo nation should support.
It is a known fact that the southsouth is using its turn at the moment, it will make no political sense to say ok, let's support an Igbo person from thesame sub-region whose turn is alreadt running against another one from a region that is yet to use its turn. This is not about being more Igbo than the others, this is politics of common sense and fairness. Infact, choosing an Igbo from SS region will walk against our aims as people from other region will argue that thesame sub-region that is about to finish a tenure should not be supported again in whatever guise, that in effect, will thwart whatever alliances we hope to form with people outside of the entire estern region and ultimately kill our dreams of having one of our own there.
It will give others the moral right to align against the Igbo purpose, to them it will be a wake up call to an impending domination of not just the Igbo but people from the eastern region.
So yes, if we are to give our support to any credible Igbo candidate, it is expedient that the Igbo son must be from the southeast sub-region, this has nothing to do with their Igboness. Enough said on that already.
Point .2 while it is very important that we have a consensus candidate, I think it is very important that we recognize the fact that it is not perculiar to Igbos to see a region with more than one candidates indicating interests.
Yorubas, Hausas and co all do it, I wonder why it has to be exploited when Igbos do it. For crying out loud, this is a democracy everyone can contest, we can't stop anyone that wishes to contest from doing so, what we need is a collective endorsement of one person from influential igbo groups, associations, sons and daughters . Anyone is free to come out, it is a democracy dear, no matter the consensus agreement reached in a region, it does not stop anyone from comimg out from that region if they want to, it does not make them any less igbo or the agreement reached inconclusive.
Point 3. No one is in denial of an alliance with other regions, that is a must. Infact, no one region has the population strength to go it alone, forming an alliance is a must of course but it has to be with willing regions that are ready to be fair and trusted in the long run, not the ones that will turn a volte face when you need them.
Point.4 what you call "credible" is subjective and might be exploited by others to their own benefits. I believe we have very capable hands in ala igbo, that is not in doubt, we dont just need credible person with all the qualities u mentioned alone, the person has to be popular beyond the fringes of geo-politics.
Point 5. Biafra has never posed a problem to igbo's realisation of the presidency. It is stoopid and exploitative for anyone to make such arguments, till date they are yet to wreck the kind of havoc Massop, BokoHaram, OPC, MEND and co have done in this country yet detractors like to mischieviously talk about them as if they are Nigeria's problem. Abeg free that matter jor, all that one na splitting hair arguments jor.
Point 6. Ohaneze is only as strong as the support we give them, so far, they have not done badly in many of their decisions, they jave shown some tacts that paid of somehow. I believe they wont disappoint, all they need is our support.
Point 7. I quite agree with you, PDP remains the best platform to realize our aim.

I find it so annoying when some Yoruba posters here arrogate to themselves the power to choose who becomes Nigeria's President and try to pontificate to Igbos about Unity like they don't have disagreements, betrayal of purpose and backstabbers amongst themselvess.
Like seriously, you guyz need to get over yourselves. Like One_only has told you lot, your power is limited by the whims and caprices of the Nigerian Politician who cares very little about any stoopid allegiance when his personal interest is served. Yoruba this, yoruba that. . .incase una never realise, GEJ burst una "we own Nigerian myth", he did not even need any serious southwest support to win the election by a huge margin, neither were the claims of the SW being the deciding factor shown to be true. That election realy burst a lot of your larger than life claims and myth, so you guyz should calm da phuck down jor!! No one region can go it alone, whether SW, the whole of the north or even the entire Eastern region.

Now to the issue of the identity of Okija-Juju, I believe he is not Aljaharam. I am almost certain they are different, you can easily tell from the structure of what they write. Okija-Juju is far more articulate and makes more sense when he wants to get intellectual.
Okija-JUju is IGBO but a rabid isolationist that cares little about other Igbos except the Anambra Igbo(in that context, I agree with onlytruth when he says you are not Igbo cos no Igbo person will spew the hokum you are fond of spewing all the time) just like the other bigot too, Chino. They are Igbos but the type no sane Igbo person should be like.

Alja-haram on the other hand is a stooopid man's idea of an intellectual. He is a PRETENDER whose mission here on NL is to cross the Igbos against the Yorubas and vice versa, depending on the direction the ill-wind blows his nYansh.
He obviously is suffering from split personality disorder, he alone can start a thread, make inciting comments on it, use different generics to answer them just to get attention. His ego seems to thrive on stoopid antics that make Igbo and Yorubas fight on NL. He is so deluded that he can start a fight in an empty room. He is too damn easy to figure out, the guy is not smart and rely heavily on copy and paste junks.
Only a dunce like him will fall for his dumb antics of calling tribes out.

shymmex: I'm not surprised!

50% of Nigerian men in Nigeria are closet homos - hence, why they wear female jeans, in the name of skinny jeans.

50% ncha...hahahahahah. Guy you are always uneccessarily dramatic with the way you post your poo. My twin brother wears skinny Jeans yet he aint gay...lol....so in America only gay guys wear tight fitting jeans
Fact is that, gay fashion has kinda crept into mainstream fashion, people wear some gay clothes without realising the origin is even gay...lol...when it comes to fashion, na follow follow thing....never you call my twinny gay again....e nu go?

[quote author=yamunla][/quote]hahahahahah....guy you no well o...u and your twisted fantasies of phucking a midget. By the way, have done one before for real...lmao

Lucky gurl: Go ahead and display ur ill gotten knowledge and ur superiority complex.Hisses

Like seriously, you need to shut your mouth up. You are not better than their wives in any aspect. Funny enough, most of them marry very pretty and educated girls from very good family background. Their kids and family are well taken care of. They wont even look at you even if you had Agbani added to your name. From the way you keep going on and on, it is obvious you are yet to meet a real man. You are the type that will fall for a guy just because he speaks english with an accent even if what he says in english is wrong. Abeg make we hear jare! Who you be sef

pcicero: #reads comments and walks away#

there is nothing radically different about Nairaland. It is just like everyother discussion forum, it is not social networking site like FB, 2go and co, it is what it is- a discussion site. If I were to compare Nairaland, it will be with discussion forums like Naijapals, Nigerianvillagesquare and some newspaper sites....guy if you use them, you wont be so eager to sing the praises of Nairaland.
The name Lagbook to me is a turn off, it is so uninventive and uncreative to use thesame suffix with a known social networking site. That to me, took away the "wow factor", calling it Lagbook makes it come across as thesame generic old shit. I heard the guys lifted heavily from facebook too, from font type to alook-alike Logo and colour. They have to step up their game. And Why use Lag to prefix it anyway, that too limits their reach, why should a UNN student for instance be bothered to join since it is clear it is only for Lagosians anyway? The concept is 4uck'd no amount of propaganda go sell am jare!

[quote author=*Ileke-IdI]You're not listening to me or cap28 who logically spelled out what I'm saying.

WalMart is not going to pay anything to help "our ladies" and men, to see themselves through higher education. They're be working like slaves and paid peanut money. These "ladies" would compare the large amount they make with alhaji/chief to what walmart pays, so who do you think they'd choose?

And I'm offended that you choose to point out the ladies, as if we don't have Naija men whoring about too [/quote]Your argument is sentimental and just like the rest making thesame arguments as you, you lot are all detached from the realities of what's actually obtainable in Nigeria's working environment.
I have worked in production factories both as an Undergraduate and as a graduate and I am telling you guys that Walmart working conditions and payment structures both to her full time staff, contractor staff and casual workers can never be any worse than what is obtainable in these production factories owned by Lebanese, Chinese, Indians and even fellow Nigerians. That is a fact!!!
You keep talking about their motives being that of profit making like it is supposed to be something different, incase you guys have forgotten, Walmart just like every other multinational business entity is set up to make profit first before any other thing, it is left to the government to create laws that will not allow them exploit her citizens unfairly, laws that spell out what is allowed and what is not allowed. Laws that make it compulsory for local investors to buy into the company after an agreed number of years of estiblishing in the country, I understand in RSA there is a law that forces every multinational to make available about 10% of her shares to black investors, Laws that emphasize local content of at least 50%-60%.
It is sheer recklessness and a demonstrated inability to understand, cope and negotiate with the demands of the teething troubles associated with attracting Multinationals the size of Walmart. I mean why throw away the baby and the bath water? Let them come in! Besides, that sector needs to be stimulated by the likes of Walmart. There is a lot to be gained that outweighs whatever problems you people are envisaging. Walmart will never close down our traditional markets or street corner shops, Emeka and Ebeano supermarkets will continue to sell even in the face of giants like Walmarts, all they need to do is think out of the box to compete. Like I have said in my previous post, our buying attitude and culture is very different from that of the west or even RSA. An average Nigerian will rather buy a packet St louis Sugar from a local store whose price is slightly higher than
the likes of walmart and shoprite because to him, it will look rather degrading that the only reason he went through the hassle of going into a walmart or shoprite supermarket was to get just a packet of St loius sugar. The way Nigerians buy their groceries is extremely "retailed" and diffferent that it has to be from these local stores and market they buy from and not Uncle Walmart. I doubt if walmart will sell 3 cubes of sugar for #5 or a bag of Lipton Tea for #5.
People have to be strategic in the way they look at the issues here. Nigeria needs the likes of Walmart for so many reasons. They will bring in the technical -know-how that is needed to run departmental stores, they will stimulate competition and help reduce prices of goods and services and increase our options. They will employ both professionals, semi-professionals, secondary school leavers, drop outs, unskilled people all in large numbers like our factories do. They will create more sophisticated small businesses in place of the unsophisticated ones they kill. Local farmers and production factories will have a ready buyer in the likes of walmart. At least our own local supermarkets will learn how to go straight to the production factories to negotiate prices of their goods, our own local entrepreneurs will use the opportunity to set up more food and commodity factories as there is already a market for them. They will bring back our already dead middle class and bridge the gap. The success of walmart will bring in more of the likes of Walmart and gradually reorganize our markets and make them more profitable.
There is so much you and caps are not considering here.

soloqy: You and who concluded? Please speak for only you.

Nigerians !! Everything is not a conspiracy to kill you...

somebody tell this Lameduck that she is being watched.

Walmart or no walmart, markets like Onitsha main market, Balogun, Ariaria, Isale Eko, Tejuosho and the likes will never close, Fact!!!
Shoperite still sells their items rediculously cheap, people still flock to their malls and all that, but our regular markets retail stores still stand gidi gbam. Most of the people arguing against Walmart are actually not in touch with what actually goes on in Nigerian working environment.
If you want to talk about slave labour, guy, it already exists here in Nigeria. Go to most of the factories you find in isolo, illasamaja, matori, ladipo industrial estates, apapa and the likes, factory workers there get a minimum of 500-700 per day to work in those factories for a minimum of 8hrs per day. I am talking from experience, my cousin also has worked in one of those factories as a graduate trainee in their maintenance department, this boy was being paid 23k per month and he goes to work every 4ckin day, 7am and closes 7pm.
They work even on sundays. They have two shifts that runs for 2wks, their only break comes when they change shifts and they are being paid 23k. The workers in the factory which is a plastic packaging company- they are responsible for the new bournvita plastic containers, they do numerous other packaging like that for pz and cussons, emos best, beauty fair and many more-earn ridiculous amout and endure very bad working conditions. The ladies who mostly work in the factory are paid 500 for new intakes and 700 for old workers per day.
And somebody here is making a fuss about walmart paying $7 and some cents per hour. With all the attendant under-payments, just go to the gates of these factories and see youngstars every day there waiting to be employed.
Walmart has a way better remuneration package and working condition set up than these factories, FACT!!
And there is no way walmart will penetrate the streets and corners like our small retail shops and local markets will do. Walmart will only be a headache to small retail stalls in urban centres but a good business person will find a way to leverage on it and instead partner with walmart. Ordinary people seldom go to places like shoprite not because they don't know about their price regime but cos they just can't see any reason to walk in there just to buy one item alone.
The very organized set-up in shoperite supermarkets and malls does not allow the atmosphere for somebody to just walk in there and say i want to buy only say a soap of N100 or a packet of lipton alone and leave, you will look stoopid and outta place unlike in our regular retail stores.
So ordinary folks will rather save themselves the embarassment of looking odd there and just patronize our regular retail stores. Me i stay in surulere for instance, I can't just walk into surulere shoperite all because i want to buy a packet of lipton when i can easily get it at a slightly higher price from an aboki without all those fake buyers in shoprite looking down on you like you are the poorest person there. I only worry about shoprite when i want to do some foodstuff shopping and stocking.
And about 60% of their food items and goods are your regular local stuff.
I no sabi wetin cap24 and ileke dey yarn say na only chinese stuff go dey there, shebi na if d chinese product move market no ni? They wont sell what an average Naija don't have use for na, neither will they skip milo, bournivita and ovaltin made in naija and bring in made in china.... Seriously, you guys condemning this nice opportunity should calm the 4ck down, Nigeria so badly needs walmart, yes na true!!

pro01: Says who? Where im wan thief am? The problem with these 'abstract' software/programming millionaires/billionaires is that estimates of their net worth is often academic - a bubble. Tell Seun to convert even one-tenth of his so-called 3 million dollars worth to liquid assets let us see. Same goes for our friend Mark. He may be worth 17.5 billion in theory, but I don't know how much of that is readily convertible to cold cash. That's why it's erroneous to suggest that he is "twice as rich" as Dangote. I think Dangote has more liquid assets, more 'real' and sustainable investments, and certainly more cash flow and annual revenues.

I doubt Seun is worth more than the average spare parts importer in Ladipo Market. Forget the academic net-worth estimations.

hahahahahah....you are right in a way...they are not that wealthy in convertible cash...

[/color][color=#990000]Thank You very much for you very mature response. Actually, I am neither of the authors but I share strongly their views and findings.
Like you have already stated this is going to be straight to the point, no sentiments, I will like us to root our arguments from both biblical accounts as well as the History of our religion.
Now, to your points for the most part, we are on thesame page, however your interpretations of Nos: 8, 9 and 10 are a little bit too simplistic but as we go further in the debate I belief you will understand better.
Looking forward to your responses and having a robust theological debate. Thank You.

Lol...fucking liers

Seun: She was his girlfriend before he started Facebook, so I don't think you can call her a gold-digger at all.

yeah right! Still think bitch has dug herself a billion OUNCE.
Hope He signed a pre-nup at least....who cares if she has been 4ckin him for centuries just do what needs to be done.

I hope this report is true. Long over due. Slashing the allowances will have greater effect on their over all take home than just slashing their salaries. Good way to Go Joboy, that is if it is true cos I doubt those thieving bunch will take it lying down.

Mr Olajide
I am surprise that you claim to be an industry player and yet erroneously think Universal Banking was part of Soludo's policies. For your information, it was introduced by his predecessor Joseph Sanusi in 2002, Soludo came on board in 2004.
Besides, there was nothing wrong with the model, the issue was not whether you were doing universal banking or whatever form of banking. The problem was in the CBN policy regulatory structure, the institutional framework for effective discharge of the central banking functions is not adding up in the CBN. It is excessively over-politicized. The issue is more of populist programmes rather than core monetary policy agenda for the economy.
There are two major roles of the central bank: that of maintaining monetary price stability, and the banking sector regulation. If both of them have been acclaimed to have failed, it means what is needed actually is not a change in any policy. The problem is not with the policy, the problem is in two major areas. The first major problem area is: instead of building a very strong institution, we are building a very strong personality around a very weak institution. That is what is happening at the central bank and most other Nigerian institutions. You build very strong individuals and then you weaken the institution, instead of the reverse. They don’t bother about building strong institutions.
We keep over emphasizing the individuals in positions, thereby removing the institutional concept that makes the systems work. There is no amount of policy reversal, no amount of ingenuity in policies that will improve the system.
Trying to downplay Soludo's success in stabilizing the naira as if it was an easy feat once there was a huge pool of external reserve without recourse to the fact that his policies grew the reserve even though the price of oil per barrel was not on the high as it has been in Sanusi's era, only shows how weak your argument is and the fact you don't see the correlation let alone "school me".
You are better off trying to understand the facts and basics than schooling anyone here . . . lol
The other issues you raised about the shaddy dealings that went on with the banks and the capital market all boils down to thesame regulatory ineptitude on the part of the Soludo led CBN which one would have expected Sanusi to build upon instead of turning policies on their head.
Presently even with the catagorization of banks, the so-called specialized banks are not lending to the real sector, Sanusi's CBN has criminalized the lending point to the point there is a credit contraption. And there are serious lapses by those who are supposed to be performing oversight functions. In Nigeria, nobody regulates the regulator. The central bank accounts to nobody. And you see heavy amounts of money being dished out by the CBN financing developmental programmes and all that and nobody checks that. You probably heard of the N500 billion injected into the power sector when we all know that funding is not the problem of the power sector. How can such an amount come out of the coffers of an agency of government without passing through appropriation? That is a sign of collapse. Thesame way the CBN wasted 620 billion on the banks they alleged were on the brink of failing, what has become of these banks and the money injected into them?
I wont be surprise that when Sanusi leaves office, there will be dirty revelations of CBN balance sheet showing how bankrupt Sanusi has left it with the way he throws money around without recourse to due process, yet he is the one touting due process and coperate governance in the commercial banks.