₦airaland Forum

Turantula:
Reminds me of Afonja and Ilorin

Why don't you face Igalas that have overtaken the SE and taken you as slaves.You now believe you are from NRI.
Slavery mentality.

Osagyefo98:
We may not see through but what the man said is right.

It happened last election and was led by MC Oluomo even many were injured in that process.

So what's the rational that everyone is safe and not a repeat of lagos election saga.

Funny enough they were attacking Igbos for same buhari and miyetti issues.


Now they are using the same saga against them.

That Miyetti Allah man is a cowardly cow dung.
It was APC attacked PDP and prevented them from voting.Unfortunately Igbos there(A couple of selected areas.Igbos in Lagos generally voted peacefully ) were PDP loyalists living in Lagos which is an APC controlled state.Other states also had hot spots like these. It is not a Yoruba vs Igbo thing.

Osagyefo98:
We may not see through but what the man said is right.

It happened last election and was led by MC Oluomo even many were injured in that process.

So what's the rational that everyone is safe and not a repeat of lagos election saga.

Funny enough they were attacking Igbos for same buhari and miyetti issues.


Now they are using the same saga against them.

That Miyetti Allah man is a cowardly cow dung.
It was APC attacked PDP and prevented them from voting.

GogobiriLalas:
Amotekun will die a natural death

..Amotekun lives positively.

Anambralstson:
Ibadan is more of slums

You should have said Igboland is more of slums because Ibadan is more developed than the SE states joined together. Ibadan also has better road network than Igboland.
Igboland has no single skyscraper while Ibadan has a few with a lot more infrastructures.
Can one find even half of this in Igboland.No,of course.Igboland is backward.

jimyjames:
What do you guys have in Ibadan? The oldest city in Nigeria with a huge population , with few malls cinimas and few GRAs you call that development ?

Do you have those few in the entire Igboland?
NO...
Infrastructures make a city or country.
Ibadan only has more infrastructures than the entire Igboland.

jimyjames:
Its a welcomed development rivers state can not competed with anambra when it comes to industries , cities like Ibadan are just big for noting

All you have been posting look like huge scattered and dispersed faeces. Onitsha tends to be the only developed part in Igboland but not up to 4 GRAs in Ibadan city only.
Everybody knows that Ibadan is more developed than the entire Igboland.

GogobiriLalas:
Not sure what history you're referring to, but from the little I know about the Yoruba - Fulani wars, the Fulanis appear to have gotten the better of that exchange in fact annexing territory up to the present day Kwara, Kogi, Igala and Nupe kingdoms; many of your Obas in Yoruba land still look up to the North for validation.

Irrespective, I totally appreciate your optimism but I would advise caution here; let me again reiterate that the Yorubas are natural secularists, there are no monoliths in Yoruba land, this is in stark contrast to what obtains up North this is NOT an advantage in War.

The 'soldier go soldier come' mentality up North is prime weapon of war. What you need, to prosecute a successful campaign is not a cacophony of opinions the sort the Yorubas are prone to, but a direct, accurate and unwavering hierarchical system the sort that has existed up North for ages hence my reference to their administrative system.

It will be a gross miscalculation to underrate the intelligence of the North.

You say you study Sun Tzu not Machiavelli? I study both.

I bet you are literate enough to read and know what history.

The feud between Oba Aole and Afonja gave Fulanis cum Yoruba warriors to take Ilorin city not Kwara.Afonja was treacherously killed because the Yorubas would not allow a pagan rule them.


Nothing concerns Yorubas with Kogi,Nupe or whatever.

One emir was killed and another fled to Sokoto when the Yorubas realised their mistake.The white reinstated.The wars you fought against a select part of Yorubas were possible with the help of Yoruba warriors amongst your Hausa/Fulani fighters.

Only Ibadan warriors defeated the huge Fulani-Hausa armies in the Jalumi war.

Fulanis are no match to the Yorubas if it comes to push,I push you.

The civil war is a good example of what the Yorubas can do.

A good number of Muslims in Yorubaland think that Fulanis are not real muslims because of the killing spree.They believe the Fulanis just hide under the cloak of religion to perpetrate evil..Amotekun wide support attest to unity of purpose of the Yorubas on this.

Amotekun lives .

Slimdan360:
Drastic times require drastic measures I know but i feel this whole Amotekun stuff should be taken slowly,my major concern about this issue is what will happen to the Ametokun force after the herdsmen brohaha has been subsidized,will they be disbanded or will they be admitted into the Nigerian Force.For a case of them being disbanded,I don't know how they will make a man who has fought for half of his life to just drop the gun and live a normal life,so my thinking is that after the whole herdsmen issue,a new set of terrorist group will be formed from it,i think it will be better if an arm of the police force is created rather than creating a whole new security unit to curb the herdsmen menance,Thank u.
Not withstand,I dedicate my FTC to all victims of the Fulani herdsmen clash,may the good Lord be with them

Can't you see that the FG looks culpable?

Magicians:
So long no Igbo is accorded such am good

Shut up. !!!

misterjosh:
So your defence is in that the number of deaths is not much enough? Because I'm really not understanding your point

Leave him.He is empty upstairs.He is Fulani.

fulanimafia:
Sorry but you're mistaken.

Cheers.

Okay.Cheers.

FriendNG:
1. Every state in Nigeria is independent and there is nothing like regional force. Therefore each southwest state assembly should pass a bill establishing the security watch vigilante group.

2. Each state Amotekun must have a unique registered name (example: Lagos State Amotekun Security Watch, Oyo State Amotekun Security Watch etc).

3. Each state "Amotekun" should have it own individual leader. (Although leaders from different states can have a forum just like Governors forum to exchange ideas)

4. Amotekun members of a particular state cannot work outside the state upon which they are recruited. Example: An Amotekun member of Ekiti state cannot make an arrest or any other security function in Ondo state.

In summary Amotekun cannot be a regional force but state force, unless the constitution is amended for regionalization. In such a case the Southwest House of Representatives will establish it own regional security.

I bet this is Fulanimafia I respect you as an individual Not all Fulanis are bad Pls,stay off this. Thanks.

EmekaMD:
whatever.
But trust me we're not letting any other terrorists get hold of Nigeria again.
Never again.
Amotekun is dead on arrival

You need a big bucket to contain your tears.

omenka:
Absolutely. Forget all the facades ipod Pigs are putting up, feigning support.

Those comments against Amotekun drawing likes are shares are MOSTLY liked and shared by ipods and Osus. The only ibos I think genuinely would support the movement are those from Ebonyi. They are the most *detribalised* ibos out there.

Long live Amotekun!

Thanks,bros.I respect Igbos but they are too abusive and very emotional.Most of us feel their pain,yes what they have gone through by hearing stories of the civil war.We apologize on behalf of our foreparents.I think they should support this initiative ,they need to for true security of lives and properties.We do not need them to give us people as KANU said.We love them for the positive response.
We thank all of you.This is a matter of life and death.We are ready to forgo Nigeria than be sitting ducks for people that do not honour the principle of live and let live.People that can take lives without feeling remorse.God gave them power on a platter if gold over those who are their masters in almost everything but they have misused it and the power has been taken now.May God continue to bless the good citizens of Africa.Amotekun lives positively.

omenka:
Absolutely. Forget all the facades ipod Pigs are putting up, feigning support.

Those comments against Amotekun drawing likes are shares are MOSTLY liked and shared by ipods and Osus. The only ibos I think genuinely would support the movement are those from Ebonyi. They are the most *detribalised* ibos out there.

Long live Amotekun!

Thanks bros God will continue to bless you.

caprini1:
So you believe that dude is igbo? . you need Nairaland crash course.

He is Igbo and IPOB at that.He is bitter.Check his posts.

EmekaMD:
I don't know why Amotekun kees sounding like a terrorist organization to me

An OSU spotted.

Tranquillity360:
There is not wrong in slave
Prostrating to his master.

Yes,there is nothing wrong for a slave to prostrate for his master.

ajebuter:
Apparently, Hausa- Fulani tribe is the only group against Amotekun..

Even lbos, the arch rival of my tribe expressed support for the security outfit..

What is North afraid of??

They are afraid that the killings will stop.They need the killings to put fear into you.Don't you remember....give them land or the killings continue.... statement made recently?

BuhariLooter:
If SW needs Amotekun then they must follow the right step first by calling for total constitutional review and amendment that will guarantee them Amotekun and whatsoever they need in the nearest future.


Stop playing to gallery because smartness us not just easy.


These governor's knows the way the go but they don't want restructuring, constitutional review and the rest....They are afraid of such if not why won't they start the pressure to enable them insert every single thing they deem fit for the future both referendum into the constitution.

Until then you mean the marauders should continue having a field day.

Atiku is becoming a gem if it truly comes from the bottom of his heart.Good one,sir.

They fear amotekun.They stop the killing spree.
Peace reigns in Nigeria.Agriculture grows.Economy grows.Development is rapid in all regions.Amotekun stays.

IPOB and MASSOB did not stop Fulani herdsmen from killing 50 innocent people in Nembe,Enugu a few years ago..Nobody was arrested or prosecuted till date.This is a case of medicine after death.The Fulanis are the ones who had severally opposed amotekun.All Yorubas now know there is an ulterior motive behind the movement of the Fulanis going by their jittery utterances since the creation of amotekun.This is just a tale by moonlight.Amotekun stays.

princemillla:
Don't mind the idiot.
Since the launch of this Amotekun only the north is crying. Other region applauded it even ready to emulate. Is that not clear enuf to prove that these guys are on a secret agenda

Sure they have some ulterior motives that amotekun has put a halt to.

PreciousJuice:
Since the declaration of the South Western Nigeria Security Network (AMOTEKUN) as illegal by the Federal Government, a lot of people especially from the South West, have been trying so hard to compare the outfit with Kano State's Hisbah Corps.

1. The Kano State Hisbah Board was created through the Kano State Hisbah Board Law No.4 of 2003 and the Kano State Hisbah Board (Amendment) Law No.6 of 2005 by the Kano State House of Assembly, which were duly assented to by the then Governor of Kano State, Malam Ibrahim Shekarau.

Now, what Law created AMOTEKUN, by which House of Assembly, and who assented to it?

2. Under Section 7 of the Law No. 4 of 2003, Hisbah Corps were established with the duties and responsibilities set out under subsection (4) of that section, some of which include:

Rendering necessary assistance to the Police and other Security Agencies especially in the areas of prevention, detention and reporting of offences;

Handling non-fire-arms for self defence like batons, and other non-lethal civil defence instruments;

-Assisting in any other situation that will require the involvement of Hisbah be it preventive or detective.

The Law that established Hisbah Corps was categorical in not allowing them to carry fire arms or any lethal weapons for self defence.

What about AMOTEKUN? What does the law establishing it say, if at all one exists?

3. The Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Inspector General of Police Mr. Sunday Ehindero in a press briefing on 7th of February, 2006 declared the Hisbah Law and the operations of the bodies created by the Laws as unconstitutional and illegal.

Is AMOTEKUN even backed by any Law?

4. On 8th February, 2006 the same Inspector General of Police Sunday Ehindero ordered his officers and men to effect the arrest of the Chairman and Commander General of the Hisbah Corps, Mallam Yahaya Farouk Chedi and his Deputy Mallam Abubakar Abdulkareem Rabo. They were arrested in Kano and immediately taken to Abuja where they were detained.

Has any Commander of AMOTEKUN been arrested, despite the fact that they are not backed by any known law and are made to carry fire-arms?

Would the atmosphere not have been more volatile by now if such has happened?

5. The same Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Minister of Information, Mr Frank Nweke Jr. in another press briefing made serious allegations that the Hisbah had sought foreign assistance from Libya and Iran for training as a terrorist group.

The above is not hearsay but FACTS, let us be enlightened before fighting tribal and religious wars on social media pls

You posted this with your alternate monicker yesterday.Leave the SW alone and face your Hisbah and CJTF.

Adefemi404:
If the federal government allows this, it will make south east, Niger delta to form their own security agency and there will be separate security everywhere.

If Yoruba wants to form a different country they are free to do that but we can't allow them to form an armed forces inside Nigeria.

Amotekun will be used to rig elections in the south west.....

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Stupidity at its peak.You mean the killing spree of the Fulanis will beautify Nigeria but preventing and stopping the killings will destroy Nigeria.You are a Fulani.You are inhuman.

[quote author= post=85916536]We have supported Amoteks this from Day One.

Amoteks will stay if only the founders do not let known, traitors, criminals, troublemakers to be speaking for them
Up to the point of Cownu promising Amoteks 1 million members.
Which sane Government will support that?

Anything that FFK and Cownu come out to support will always end in failure.
This has happened many times prior now.
FACTS speak for itself.
We really hope so.
We hope you dont let these craze men infiltrate into Amoteks.
The supporter of evil they are.

Amoteks started having ish when these 2 criminals (FFK and Cownu) joined their Voice to them.
#ThatsAll
They should say no to charlatans who are only good in supporting evil.

The founder should stand for themselves and get their acts together and watch Amoteks stand and bring succour to their region.

Waiting for the first swine to quote us.....[/quote]Shut up!
Amotekun lives.

Nukilia:
Who is this one? Paid columnist... The herdsmen are trying to sow discord among the people

A blogger.
His article is dead on arrival.We don't need this now.

Oshin56:
are they the only one in this country middlebelt, South South and Southeast did not condemn it only Hausa Fulani that are condemning it. There brother who is the president of this country ask people to go back to farming and people go back not knowing that is for the interest of there cow.

It is so pathetic.

Muna4real:
All of you saying yorubas fought, yorubas fought. Where were they when illorin was won over? The yorubas still beg to have an oba in their own land.That is something that can never happen in igbo land.

Where is the Igboland?The 5 states claimed they came from NRI.Slave mentality.Igbos should not be talking where freeborns are talking.

NRI IS IGALA.IGALA IS NRI.
IGALA has taken over your destinies as permanent slaves.
Igala took over Igboland and colonised you and made you permanent slaves.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nri-Igbo

Turakee2:
BEFORE YOU COMPARE HISBAH WITH AMOTEKUN
Since the declaration of the South Western Nigeria Security Network (AMOTEKUN) as illegal by the Federal Government, a lot of people especially from the South West, have been trying so hard to compare the outfit with Kano State's Hisbah Corps.
I just thought that I should share the below information.
1. The Kano State Hisbah Board was created through the Kano State Hisbah Board Law No.4 of 2003 and the Kano State Hisbah Board (Amendment) Law No.6 of 2005 by the Kano State House of Assembly, which were duly assented to by the then Governor of Kano State, Malam Ibrahim Shekarau.
Now, what Law created AMOTEKUN, by which House of Assembly, and who assented to it?
2. Under Section 7 of the Law No. 4 of 2003, Hisbah Corps were established with the duties and responsibilities set out under subsection (4) of that section, some of which include:
" - Rendering necessary assistance to the Police and other Security Agencies especially in the areas of prevention, detention and reporting of offences;
- Handling non-fire-arms for self defence like batons, and other non-lethal civil defence instruments;
- Assisting in traffic control;
- Assisting in any other situation that will require the involvement of Hisbah be it preventive or detective."
The Law that established Hisbah Corps was categorical in not allowing them to carry fire arms or any lethal weapons for self defence.
What about AMOTEKUN? What does the law establishing it say, if at all one exists?
3. The Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Inspector General of Police Mr. Sunday Ehindero in a press briefing on 7th of February, 2006 declared the Hisbah Law and the operations of the bodies created by the Laws as unconstitutional and illegal.
Is AMOTEKUN even backed by any Law?
4. On 8th February, 2006 the same Inspector General of Police Sunday Ehindero ordered his officers and men to effect the arrest of the Chairman and Commander General of the Hisbah Corps, Mallam Yahaya Farouk Chedi and his Deputy Mallam Abubakar Abdulkareem Rabo. They were arrested in Kano and immediately taken to Abuja where they were detained.
Has any Commander of AMOTEKUN been arrested, despite the fact that they are not backed by any known law and are made to carry fire-arms?
Would the atmosphere not have been more volatile by now if such has happened?
5. The same Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Minister of Information, Mr Frank Nweke Jr. in another press briefing made serious allegations that the Hisbah had sought foreign assistance from Libya and Iran for training as a terrorist group.
Has there been any such or similar allegations by the Federal Government against AMOTEKUN, even though the outlawed notorious Yoruba Ethnic Militia (OPC) with history of violent crimes against other ethnic groups and even the police, are integral part of the outfit?
Despite all the blackmail by Obasanjo Administration against HISBAH, no insults or overheating the polity were seen.
Northern Leaders and Intellectuals did not use emotion and blackmail to handle the unwarranted assault by the Obasanjo led Federal Government.
Northerners did not accuse Obasanjo and Ehindero (both Yoruba) of executing a Yoruba domination agenda.
Northern Muslims did not accuse Obasanjo, Ehindero and Nweke Jr. (all Southern Christians) of executing a Christianization agenda.
Rather, common sense prevailed and the Attorney General of Kano State took the matter to the Supreme Court where it was resolved.
Now, if the Yorubas believe AMOTEKUN is legal or created by any law and that the duties and responsibilities of the outfit (including the issue of holding fire-arms or lethal weapons) does not contravene any provision of the constitution, what is stopping them from approaching the Courts for settlement of the matter?
Why can't our Yoruba brothers pursue the issue of AMOTEKUN based purely on its merit and without joining HISBAH which differs in legitimacy, structure and functions, into their agitation?
Why can't they go about the matter with maturity and without insults or emotional blackmail against the Northerners especially and anyone of them who has reserved public commentary aligning with their agitations?
Is the group of South West Governors not made up of at least a lawyer? Rotimi Akeredolu the Governor of Ondo State is not only a Senior Advocate of Nigeria but also a former President of the Nigerian Bar Association. Why has he been unable to provide legal advise to his peers on the legal implications of setting up AMOTEKUN the way it was done?
Is this an indictment of his legal credentials or simply a well orchestrated move?

The scenario that caused the creation of Amotekun is different from that of Hisbah.
No Yoruba group was invading the northern hemisphere the way herdsmen are ransacking everywhere in Nigeria now or even claiming that they want to join Hisbah.
Amotekun is a creation of necessity and all Yoruba support it.
Why do you think only Fulanis are the ones against it?