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PhonesRe: MTN Finally Acquires Visafone by rman: 11:20am On Jan 07, 2016
greenhulk:
I just don't understand this phrase 'milk us dry'. It's not like south African companies (Mtn, Dstv, shoprite etc) are stopping other Nigerian indeginous companies from rising. It is business and whoever knows how to do it best wins. Shikena. MTN is the biggest telecommunication company in Nigeria. Dstv is the biggest cable TV in Nigeria. Shoprite is the biggest shopping complex. All south Africans. If u ask me they bring development to us, no need to be hating. The country is big and rich enough, but our people are greedy and lack business skills. So u cannot blame south African companies for having better understanding and management skills.
That is what they all fail to understand. They could not do it, lack the capacity to sustain those that were built and handed to them, then they turn around and blame those that has made a success of it.

Everything the Nigerian man sees in developed countries, he desires but theirs must come at no cost. That is why sometimes I do not blame politician that share money and food, they just understand the psych of Nigerians.
PhonesRe: MTN Finally Acquires Visafone by rman: 11:11am On Jan 07, 2016
Nigerian youths displaying their ignorance once more on this thread.

This deal has been on for a while and has nothing to do with the NCC fine.MTN is inheriting both the assets and liabilities and the Visafone assets that mtn is genuinely interested in are the visafone frequencies. CDMA has been left so far behind they can't compete with gms anymore in Nigeria, I wish they can. Anyway, this is a win win situation and I know Jim must have negotiated for a minority stake in MTN which is good for him.

I see this as good news as more and more Nigerian investors are having a stake in MTN.
PhonesRe: MTN Finally Acquires Visafone by rman: 11:10am On Jan 07, 2016
Nigerian youths displaying their ignorance once more on this thread.

This deal has been on for a while and has nothing to do with the NCC fine.MTN is inheriting both the assets and liabilities and the Visafone assets that mtn are genuinely interested in are the frequencies. CDMA has been left so far behind they can't compete with gms anymore in Nigeria, I wish they can. Anyway, this is a win win situation and I know Jim must negotiated for a minority stake in MTN which is good for him.

I see this as good news as more and more Nigerian investors are having a stake in MTN.
PhonesRe: My Experience At MTN Service Centre Today. by rman: 7:55am On Jan 07, 2016
Setaje:
Oga no be you I dey follow yarn. Since u put your mouth for the matter. Stop acting as if u are wiser or better than average nigerians. Since u no so much why not apply your plenty senses by writing a report on the many issues about Nigerian citizens and their sense of entitlement. see as all you mtn customer care associates or affiliates are writing rubbish up and down this thread. Am sure none of u or your family members had to queue to register hence u can open your smelly mouths to talk about how we the citizens feel entitled and have no right to get angry wiv mtn. Whether it's the fgs fault or ncc fault or mtn fault . Why should anybody be asked to register up to 6 times. Do u no the hell we got through before registering. I can't even believe u people. It's enough that we struggled to register once. Why are we doing it twice, three times and more. Even old and sickly looking people have to come register and u call that having a sense of entitlement. It is not your fault. You and that other guy claiming to be insider. No be una fault.


The only time a Nigerian gets to lord over others is the only time he has a voice.
Stop displaying your abysmal ignorance. Think deep and you will understand you are just a victim of an inefficient system. Don't blame mtn for that. Shikena. If ncc rejects your registration 100 times, mtn will call u back 100 times. Getting angry won't prevent that.

All other things said is just a display of your own insecurities, no one is lording over u.
PhonesRe: My Experience At MTN Service Centre Today. by rman: 7:53am On Jan 07, 2016
Setaje:
Oga no be you I dey follow yarn. Since u put your mouth for the matter. Stop acting as if u are wiser or better than average nigerians. Since u no so much why not apply your plenty senses by writing a report on the many issues about Nigerian citizens and their sense of entitlement. see as all you mtn customer care associates or affiliates are writing rubbish up and down this thread. Am sure none of u or your family members had to queue to register hence u can open your smelly mouths to talk about how we the citizens feel entitled and have no right to get angry wiv mtn. Whether it's the fgs fault or ncc fault or mtn fault . Why should anybody be asked to register up to 6 times. Do u no the hell we got through before registering. I can't even believe u people. It's enough that we struggled to register once. Why are we doing it twice, three times and more. Even old and sickly looking people have to come register and u call that having a sense of entitlement. It is not your fault. You and that other guy claiming to be insider. No be una fault.


The only time a Nigerian gets to lord over others is the only time he has a voice.
Atop displaying your abysmal ignorance. Think deep and you will understand you are just a victim of an inefficient system. Don't blame mtn for that. Shikena. If ncc rejects your registration 100 times, mtn will call u back 100 times. Getting angry won't prevent that.

All other things said is just a display of your own insecurities, no one is lording over u.
PhonesRe: My Experience At MTN Service Centre Today. by rman: 7:36am On Jan 07, 2016
whitebone:
I like your argument.. You have a good point.

But why is mtn own too much like for that matter? Take for instance I have done registration again and again 3 good times yet today mtn still send me message to do it again... Why is it always like that with mtn but other networks don't do that?
MTN CEO right now can't provide answer to your question. That is where the problem is. MTN collects the information and submit to NCC and NCC still return majority that it should be done again. So MTN will call such a customer back to come and do it again. They have even asked NCC to ensure this is done real time, which means, they should be unable to submit information that will be rejected so that right there the customer will know something is still wrong but that isn't the case.

So when you register and mtn says done...it is still actually technically pending, until ncc approves it.

For the other operators, their is intelligent report that mtn have done basically the same thing like others so we wonder mtn's registration is the one being bounced.

At least Nigeria is a multisiming market, what is the difference between how mtn register their sim and how Glo does hers if you are customer with both sim?
PhonesRe: My Experience At MTN Service Centre Today. by rman: 9:45pm On Jan 06, 2016
Setaje:
Abeg stop yarning dust. There is no justification. They make so much money from us so what are u on about. Who gives a damn if u are an insider. It's as if u people like benin treatment ba. Until when they start burning your offices. Especially that ikotun office. E be like say their machine wey dey capture finger print have problems.
If you burn office , you will be arrested. You may even end up burning and outlet that belongs to trade partner or a building mtn is just a tenant.

So what if they make money, is service not been rendered...black mans mentality of sense of entitlement. MTN is making money, if it is that easy why did your government not do it? Why did Nitel go down?

The situation MTN and her customers find themselves is unfortunate, however, they are just trying to assist a government that has not done the fundamental thing to do her duties. Which develop country do network operators register sims? All you need is a valid ID in developed countries If there is a central data base. will all these wahala be necessary if Nigeria have such?

Registration that info collected is not been referenced or readily verifiable already has a fundamental flaw even if bio-metrics were collected.
PhonesRe: My Experience At MTN Service Centre Today. by rman: 9:33pm On Jan 06, 2016
Humblegoodman:
It is good to enlighten people on what they don't understand. The problem is from NCC. When customers are registered and data forwarded to NCC for them to save in their data base, they ignore it , ostensibly because they are out to sabotage MTN. After a while when these datas are not saved by NCC, they return to MTN as incomplete registration. This means that MTN will have to painfully invite the customers again for another round of registration. People don't understand what is happening here.It is not the wish of the company to see customers suffer. NCC is not happy that MTN has instituted a court case against them because of the outrageous fine imposed on MTN.They are doing everything possible to undermine the company, thereby making them lose customers. Can you be truthful for once? Ask me why on earth should NCC impose a fine of 250,000 for a sim that hitherto did not have a complete registration. Is it fair? why use a hammer to kill a musquito?

In October 2014, NCC wrote to MTN telling them to within 7 days disconnect 5.1 million lines that have incomplete data in their system. After due consideration of the situation, MTN met with NCC to discuss the issue with them.Technically, MTN cannot disconnect 5.1 million lines in 7 days. Secondly, Disconnecting these huge number of customers from the network will cause untold hardship to them, reason being that a whole lot of them use the lines for their businesses. Many use it to look for their daily bread. Moreso, MTN will lose huge amount of money by doing that.

MTN pleaded with NCC to allow them do the disconnection batch by batch so that registering them again will not overwhelm the company. NCC refused bluntly. In the course of the negotiation, 7 days elapsed. The next thing MTN saw was a letter asking them to pay a fine of 1.04 trillion. Now, that fine is about 25% of the total value of MTN. MTN saw that fine as absolutely outrageous , uncalled for and a witch hunt. Since MTN does not have such huge amount of money to pay the fine, they went to court to seek redress. Now, all parties will have to maintain the status quo untill the matter is determined by the court. Those who do not have information about what is happening should know now. I'M an insider, so i know what's happening.
Unfortunately, majority of the people you are trying to educate already have bias mind towards MTN. You knowand uderstand exactly what is going on but the average Nigerian thinks MTN is the enemy. Why will a regulator be all out to kill the market leader? That is the underlying question Nigerians should be asking.

They are angry they have registered thrice sometimes five times, however it is actually NCC that keeps rejecting these registrations by refusing to validate them on time. How is that MTNs fault? I am an insider too. Have a nice day.
PhonesRe: My Experience At MTN Service Centre Today. by rman: 9:17pm On Jan 06, 2016
LKO:
How many times do I have to register my sim for MTN to have my complete bio-data and biometrics in their data base? Heaven knows I have registered my line for over six times right in their office and on each registration they would reward me with five hundred naira. I registered this same line September last year after they have blocked my line, they opened my line and sent me a successful sim registration message and gave me one thousand naira worth of air time which strangely disappeared also. Now, MTN is bombarding me with messages to go and re-register my sim. I have been using this line since 2005. For how long would I continue with this mess? I registered my glo and Etisalat sim just once and no issue since 2010 when I registered them. Is this fair?
As many times as NCC keeps returning your registration as incomplete, MTN will call you back.

MTN registers, NCC validates. What exactly do want MTN to do? get another fine?
HealthRe: Please Help....i Forget Things Easily These Days... by rman: 6:02pm On Jan 06, 2016
It could be a medical condition, see a doctor.

Eat well, Rest well, exercise...
BusinessRe: N1.04trn Fine: We Expect No Operation Disruptions For Not Paying Fine —MTN by rman: 9:19pm On Jan 01, 2016
kushe:
@rman

Make we leave this people but I am glad I found a reasonable person on this forum regarding this issue. I visit nairaland every day but I just browse through the main topics on front page to keep myself abreast with developments in naija but this MTN issue pains me to the very core of my being.i am saddened that a majority of people including some of my friends I have spoken to about the issue feel MTN should pay.
I don tire for my naija people ooo,reminds me of what they did to John D Rockefeller when the govt broke his company to bits and pieces cos even America was afraid of big business and the same sentiments as we have in naija now pervaded America then.Standard oil is too big,break them up and allow their competitors breathe,why should one man be so wealthy?
Well the government listened then but hasn't tried any such move ever since cos they know it is bad for a free market economy.John D Rockefeller even went on to become wealthier when the various units of his business were floated separately.I wish MTN had a similar exit strategy cos who would have thought Mobil,chevron,Exxon all belonged to one man in the beginning.
I agree.
PhonesRe: [pic] Can You Buy The Blackberry Priv For ₦225,000 by rman: 6:46pm On Jan 01, 2016
Emmagenius:
SO ooooooo??.They shouldn't have tried Nigeria as a Market.Seeing the. Dwindling Economy
Were the phones manufactured here?

Which kind of sense of entitlement do Nigerians have sef?

If you can't by BlackBerry Priv, move on...

So it makes sense they reduce the price of a global commodity because of Nigerians? And we all wondered why we get inferior quality of products littered all over our markets. The sellers understand our psychology, we don't really like paying for quality products. That's why Tecno that no operator would allow put a phone on her network in USA sells millions of phones here.
PhonesRe: [pic] Can You Buy The Blackberry Priv For ₦225,000 by rman: 6:06pm On Jan 01, 2016
Have u guys considered the current exchange rate?
BusinessRe: N1.04trn Fine: We Expect No Operation Disruptions For Not Paying Fine —MTN by rman: 5:47pm On Jan 01, 2016
kushe:
Poverty is in the mind and reading these comments I am beginning to understand why Nigerians are so poor and underdeveloped. If entrepreneurs and big businesses didn't develop the abroad some of us run to or live in,would America be what it is today. Nigerians are very socialist in their mindset expecting the government to do everything for them including stealing from rich successful people and businesses and sharing the loot with them.
Socialism has failed the world over and will never succeed in Nigeria,not in a billion years. China was a communist country with government trying to do everything till their leaders had a rethink and opened up the country. China is only communist in word as their deeds are capitalist . Now I would rather a rich prosperous nigeria like China than a socialist poor nigeria like the China of 40 years ago.
People that hate rich people will die poor,it is not a curse,it is just the way the world works. Naa pepsin start MTN,go and start your own business and stop basking in your bankruptcy of ideas.
My sentiments exactly.
BusinessRe: N1.04trn Fine: We Expect No Operation Disruptions For Not Paying Fine —MTN by rman: 5:07pm On Jan 01, 2016
Arogunmasa:
In banks in SA. Trust me. Nig is not only their investment haven. I think u r encouraging multi national coys to disrespect the laws of Federal Republic of Nig. Did MTN Nig floaut the laws or not? If yes, what is the prescribe penalty? A stranger does not know the way to the market square, it is the villagers that shows him the way.
So if u are a business man, u will use made money made elsewhere to pay fine elsewhere? Nigerian logic.

I'm not saying mtn should not pay fine...let the fine be reasonable. Who fines a company more than 80% o the total value of the business?

All these emotional argument doesn't make sense. I'm all for Laws of the land but everyone I reasoning like cave men. Apply logic, and see how unreasonable the fine is. How can u set up a fine system where less than 10% of a telecoms company subscribers can erode the total value of the company?

Everyone is talking laws of the land as if we just discovered the lines were not registered. Everyone should look back and see this for what it is. A new government trying to impress gullible masses.


FYI, have u registered your sim? Did u notice even the one been done has a fundamental flaw in it. The information being collected is not being verified by referencing it to know if it is true or not. Tell me any advanced country where telecoms operators register sims.

We need a central data base instead of all these multiple registrations by private companies.

MTN SHOULD PAY A FINE, HOWEVER THE FINE MUST BE REASONABLE. 700billion, haba!
BusinessRe: N1.04trn Fine: We Expect No Operation Disruptions For Not Paying Fine —MTN by rman:
egbonnla:
Please find out how much BP was fined for the oil spill in USA. What I expect MTN to do is to request for payment over 3 years. Do you know how much MTN makes in a day? They can pay that fine.
BP's fine is just around 5% of total value of the company. Mtn's fine is more than 80% of the total value of the company. Now do you understand why mtn's fine is unreasonable?

How much does mtn make in a day and what is their daily operational expenses? You cannot look at revenues without looking at cost of operation.

If have you an idea of the annual profit of mtn, and I can authoritatively tell u, that if mtn remains profitable for the next three years...this fine will gulp their entire profits. So is that sensible? How do u expect them to pay salaries, keep network working, expand the network, introduce new technologies etc....common people. You all are arguing from an emotional point of view. Let's all apply logic!
BusinessRe: N1.04trn Fine: We Expect No Operation Disruptions For Not Paying Fine —MTN by rman: 10:54am On Jan 01, 2016
Arogunmasa:
They make more money than banks, u want to compare bank depositors with network subscribers?
So all the money they make should be used to pay fine?

You fail to see my analogy. Yes, mtn makes more money than banks but if banks can go under because of just 25billion, where will mtn 700billion come from?

Or u think they have 700billion stashed somewhere?
BusinessRe: N1.04trn Fine: We Expect No Operation Disruptions For Not Paying Fine —MTN by rman: 10:48am On Jan 01, 2016
kushe:
@philip70 and adjoy
I am not saying what I do not know,I understand the workings of international business and only come to nairaland to feel the pulse of my people. Poor people with a poverty mindset always feel it is ok to reap where they have not sown. That is why a hardworking man will die in Nigeria and his good for nothing brethren whom he had supported financially while he was alive as they sat on their lazy behinds would come and kick out the legitimate heirs to the man's fortunes.
Same way omoniles some of whom were born in kogi or shaki will harass you for fence,for decking,for roof. These guys are not a problem,the supposed educated class that support such behavior are the problem. In this case,your government is the Robin Hood,stealing from the rich. (MTN) and redistributing to the poor(2016 budget) and you are all there cracking jokes as an iceberg the tip of which only you see tears into the hold of your ship(hoping the titanic comes to mind)
Of fences and infractions are part of corporate existence but penalties are always commensurate with the size of the economy. Ole jati jati in government yi,what would they have done if Apple was here with profits of 53 billion dollars a year and more. Probably shut down NNPC and form a parastatal to collect money and then the National Assembly would form commitees to oversee what the parastatal is doing.
What a joke,serious countries encourage enterprise and nigerian youth are shouting unemployment,una never see unemployment. Chase away investors and see what is left of your country. Education is not a degree from some mushroom university and some mouldy graduation regalia,it is in the mind. Renew your mind and get world wise.
Thank you, I find it appalling how shallow and gullible Nigerians ar, especially those that claim they have an education.
In fact, I'm convinced this the black man's mentality of sense of entitlement to something they didn't not help build. See all of them shouting mtn must pay, in their warped logic they think it will get to them.

Government is broke and is looking for money. Who fines the biggest single tax payer to the government at all levels 700billion? Backwards mentality being displayed.

No body is even asking the right questions. A company that pays hundreds o billions in taxes is being fines 700billion. Smh!
BusinessRe: N1.04trn Fine: We Expect No Operation Disruptions For Not Paying Fine —MTN by rman: 10:40am On Jan 01, 2016
Everyone saying mtn should respect the law, do u think mtn have 700billion naira somewhere that they will transfer into ncc's account at the click of a button?

Do u think banks will give them loans to pay a 700billion fine?

FG goofed with that ridiculous fine and th gullible masses are urging them on.

700billion fine is equivalent to all revenue mtn will generate in the next three years if things remain the same....

Nigerian banks couldn't rasie 25 billion during capitalization and some wer aquired because of this and FG expects mtn to pay 700billion fine within the same economy. Jokers!
Jobs/VacanciesRe: My Interview Experience by rman: 10:25am On Jan 01, 2016
dahmie2013:
Op, d director expected u 2 criticize his opinion&defend ur postulatn. U cud have said ppl mgt involves training, skill gap analysis, which a cleaner won't do. However, 4 d second questn, its just abt success. Meaning whatever effort u put in 2 a thing, is how much results u get. Aldo dere are execptns especially in academics, were one will read 4 hours&fail&some will read 4 minutes & pass. My take though! Happy New Year!
I will rather answer the second question from an ethical point of view. When it comes to business ethics, the end doesn't always justify the means.
PoliticsRe: Ericsson Confiscates Radio Biafra Transmitter On MTN Mast In Enugu by rman: 11:51am On Dec 31, 2015
asorocker:
Fixing the equipment is not the issue but fixing it and keeping it undetected for a very long time while NCC was busy combing the Bush for a long time without tracing it. And also routing the signals from London to the transmitter. Presently no Nigerian engineering can do that.
Most university graduates of electrical engineering from reputable Nigerian university can do that.

This basic to telecoms engineers. Nothing special. Mind you FMEs role is a technical role and they were all employed and trained here.
PhonesRe: "Pay N780billion Fine By 31st December" - NCC To MTN Nigeria by rman: 3:46pm On Dec 30, 2015
mrDennis:
actually u failed to break down the brt example... I mean the FINE is explicitly stated ... so the moment u encroach on the line u don't now start begging saying u only have 3k in ur pocket etc ...

mtn clearly knew the implication of what they were doing. , also u obviously not a finance guy cos u would know the same way politicians don't joke with 1 vote is the Sam's way corporate firms don't joke with 1 naira . let's do small calc

5naira spent by 5.2m Sims = N26m *7 days = N182m . so please stop acting like mtn didn't know the implication of their avtions. they just didn't expect the NCC hammer to fall so hard ! it's business they probably expected a fine in the millions which might have made up just 40-45% of their earnings on those unregistered Sims . MTN is a corporate entity stop arguing like they a roadside shop with no legal dept

even if the money is somehow mishandled by apc that's a seperate analysis ... first MTN MUST PAY. after all THERE WAS A SMALLER FINE (N100m). which u carefully ignore to mention that despite the fine and warning they didn't heed the directive of NCC.

forget goodwill ... it doesn't give anyone the right to repeatedly flout our laws.
Now I know u don't understand telecoms business so there is no need discussing with u. Let us even assume all 5.2 million sims did 5 naira transaction daily like u assumed. Isn't there a cost to keep them communicating. Abi mtn just willed it and it happens. Sites must be powered, switches must be powered...expensive softwares are working, man power working 247 , ensure any time T, this is possible. So if u understand the business u will re-do your calculation that's too basic.

I definitely addressed the 100m fine. What is the 100m fine for? Ask people doing business with all these telecos and all will unanimously tell u mtn is the best to do business with. Why is mtn now having issues with only ncc?

U have failed to see my point. Fine mtn, but let it be a reasonable fine.. simple as ABC
PhonesRe: "Pay N780billion Fine By 31st December" - NCC To MTN Nigeria by rman: 12:04pm On Dec 30, 2015
mrDennis:
smiles... bro * you're shooting yourself in the foot * with your own points.

if you claim this is not the first time mtn is being fined you make it sound like they are pathological defaulters and thus repeat offenders which further gives credence to the maximum fine allowed for this default to be meted out to them.

Also even if MTN didn't make 1 naira on those lines the law says it's 200k per line . the law didn't state anything regarding to the %penalty in relation to the money made on such lines .

Also I didn't make ANY comparisons with landed lines in only made u realise they HAD a monopoly /duopoly and fixed prices to make ASTRONOMICAL profits . they haven't apologised for it (making legal money). lol. now they get an ASTRNOMICAL fine( legal liability). they complaining hahaha
Mtn never had a monopoly. Econet launched their network first and Mtel was there when mtn launched, stop trying to twist history to suit your argument. By the time mtn lauched, customers have at least 4 options to choose from (Econet, Mtel, mtn and the old 090 lines by Nitel, they are mobiles too). You are the one being biased. Apple made astronomical profits by selling Iphones and they owe no one an apology. Obviously u are baised too because u are not stating facts.

50k fine for brt lane is not a relevant example under this circumstance.

I still do not understand how u wnat a company that hav invested billions to pay a fine that will not allow them break even for the next three years...

Do u think mtn has 700billion somewhere they will transfer into ncc account tomorrow at the click of a button?

Do u think banks will borrow a company money to pay fines? A company that owes some kind of loans already?

Everyone is talking about profits as if it is easy to make profit. The blacks man's mentality of sense of entitlement to someone else's hard work. Yes, that's the way I see it.


The fine is illogical and nobody can make me see governments reason for such a fine. 200k per sim, what is the average revenue per user? Did competition not naturally force prices down in telecommunications in Nigeria?

From the so called 50naira pe minutes and expensive sim to 10naira per minute to 100 naira sims. Which other commodity has dropped that much within the same span?

No company offers u cheap prices because they love u, superior products or services will always attract higher prices and the only way to force price down is not to demand for it but offer similar quality of products and services at lower prices.

My question is even if mtn pays this fine? What next? That's what everyone should b asking. Governors that couldn't pay salaries and got bailouts are already salivating on this urging ncc on...another revenue stream for all to share with nothing to show.

A reasonable fine based on mtns profits and financial profile should not be more that 100billion.

For every negative thing we post about mtn, there are 100 positive things they have added to the same economy. We all have to see it both ways hence we shoot ourselves in the foot. Don't Nigerians love shooting themselves in the foot?
PoliticsRe: FG Approves N86.50k As Petrol Pump Price by rman: 10:33am On Dec 30, 2015
Make it available at N87 first...

Rubbish government. I haven't bought fuel at 87 naira in more than two months. 130k is the average price unless u are willing to spend two days at filling stations and yet government is trying to impress gullible Nigerians.

How can what is not available become cheaper? APC economics.
PhonesRe: "Pay N780billion Fine By 31st December" - NCC To MTN Nigeria by rman: 10:28am On Dec 30, 2015
mrDennis:
LMAO. bros you are educated but totally bias and afraid of taking risks . you said we should not blame gej yet u indirectly blaming gej by pointing out the flaws in a policy he signed off on. also u are indicting obj n pdp. for 16 years of not putting up the structures you just mentioned
also let me add this ... THE national I.d card is a dull idea because it makes no practical sense yet he signed off on it.

NOW TO YOUR. FEARS ABOUT MTN LEAVING.
*You act like mtn is/was doing 9ja a favour when in fact it is the other way around. Nigeria opened u her telecoms sector and mtn had the honour of having first dibs which they capitalised on (SIM card he much? per minute how much?). before we allowed competition come in.

*You act like if mtn leaves we will be left with Only glo airtel n eti for life? guyyyy many telecoms coy are looking for ways to enter naija tel market. but it would be hard to get *sizable market share when 4 top telcos are already here. in fact if mtn goes another SA firm will try to enter & I hope they won't allowit

*Yes mtn pays taxes but a new replacement firm will equally pay those taxes , patrnise those businesses and employ Nigerians but will south Africa's govt still receive tax from MTNnigeria?

*You say mtn started disconnecting ... it's too late to cry when the HEAD is off ... other telcos complied to an appreciable level if not fully. & mtn. didn't comply @ all. 3 days after the deadline!

* You act like this fine will chase /scare away investors ... lies! in fact more businesses will love to enter a market where everyone plays by the same set of rules .

*we don't need companies investing in Nigeria because they can easily exploit its citizens and bypass regulations

* this fine is the first of its nature & sets a precedent... anything done now will serve as a basis for future refrence ... if mtn no pay , then why should ANY firm fined in the future pay?
Of course I am biased. My bias is for mtn. Even if they disconnected 3 days later...did they make 1trillion on those lines?

Per minute and sim card talk is rubbish. As at that time, it was still way cheaper than getting a land line and readily available. That's why it sold. Did u cry to Nokia for selling torchlight phone for 30k 12yrs ago ?

This is no the first time mtn is been fined, what u should be asking is why are they resisting this one? It is illogical!
PhonesRe: "Pay N780billion Fine By 31st December" - NCC To MTN Nigeria by rman:
Let it be on record that the first major achievement of the APC/ Buhari government is not to create jobs but to ensure investors they met are driven out of business. Bokoharam has bombed more than 150 sites of mtn in the north.....is that also mtn responsibility?

Fine mtn but let it be reasonable.

By now, if I am Buhari, any spokesperson that refer to GEJ in any communication should be fired immediately. No one sent all these ass likcers and shallow thinkers to be referring to GEJ in all interviews. In their mind, they think they are impressing their subjects.

What has Shittu done as minister that this man is praising him? Or is he just minister for fine? What is government road map for telecoms?

Stop using mtn to score cheap political gains because u hav found that majority of Nigerians a gullible and have herd mentality (follow follow)

Yes Nigerians are tired of poor services, not only in telecommunications. Bad roads, no power even leadership, YES we are tried of bad leaders....
PhonesRe: "Pay N780billion Fine By 31st December" - NCC To MTN Nigeria by rman: 9:29am On Dec 30, 2015
See how people in government talks.

What has GEJ administration got to do with this?

What is total value of mtn Nigeria that NCC alone wants to collect 700billion?

Do you guys know each state, LGA also tax base stations in their locality?

Why are they trying so hard to blame network operators for their own lack of technology to track criminals?

FYI, the almighty DSS has only three equipment that can monitor calls and they move this from one region to the other based on the case they are investigating..why can't FG buy more?

For those that have travelled out, do you do sim reg or your national ID is all u need to show to get one and info is automatically sycn to the sim?

Did anyone not notice the flaw in the registration process. U go and provide information about who u are and there is no means to verify if it is correct. Therefore I can be Tunde on my etisalat sim and Michael on mtn network..isn't that a flaw.

A lazy government that is looking for money deceiving gullible masses that it is for their interest. A government that wants to kill the only industry that they privatised successfully because they lack foresight to see its potential an killed NiTel.

We should not let our unreasonable hatred for SA companies consume us as a people. If mtn shuts down today their is no other operator that has the installed capacity to absorb their subscribers. None! What about the ir enterprise customers?

Fyi, the economy and the people that will suffer if mtn shuts down will be Nigerians. Diesel suppliers, trade partners that have invested millions, generator companies, even fcmg companies will suffer. Sales are now being monitored by companies because field sales people key in data real time and the logical thing to do is use the biggest network.

And the ncc man spoke half truths and he clearly thinks he is impressing the government.

How many people here have registered their lines more than twice this year? Do u think mtn isn't submitting them to ncc? They do and ncc keeps rejecting them. That's why mtn keeps asking u to come back.

The bigger picture is political....mtn is contributing 4% of Nigeria's gdp as one company. Biggest contributor outside oil and gas and they want to take it over and ruin it.

I dare FG to shut down mtn...u will only take your country backwards. A country that needs so much catching up to do is threatening investors.

MTN has already complied by disconnecting the lines twice in the last two months. Is the motive getting mtn to do the right thing of fining them out of business?

The fine is illogical and we are so short-sighted we fail to see the massive negative impact this will have. This is coming from an administration of Buhari that cancelled the Lagos metro line years back under the disguise of corruption and fast forward few years Lagos has one of the worst traffic gridlock in the whole world. If he has foresight, Lagos metroline shouldn't have been cancelled.

Shut down mtn as see how customer experience on all other operators go bad in a few days. I dare FG to do so.

Shallow thinking leaders.
RomanceRe: This Lady Is In Serious Trouble (photo) by rman: 8:49am On Dec 30, 2015
For me, it is not about the cost of meal.

I find it rude and disrespectful when a lady agrees to a date and uses the entire period to chat away on her phone and pay less attention to the partner.

If that is the reason the guy is leaving, fine.

If you are on a date, be polite and try to engage your partner in meaningful discussion that will make it memorable for both of u. Chatting away or receiving several calls on a date is rude. And it shows serious lack of exposure and maturity.
EducationRe: NAIRALAND INTERSCHOOL DEBATE Team 4: Geniuses are born not made? by rman: 9:18pm On Dec 28, 2015
It is quite glaring that a topic or debate that should stimulate the interest of teenagers on a forum where they are in majority didn't attract them.

But it comes to rubbish topics, in seconds they will fill the pages up.

Kudos to the participants and judges.
PoliticsRe: Jonathan To Blame For Fuel Scarcity Says Lai Mohammed by rman: 9:00pm On Dec 21, 2015
Lai should shut up!

APC can't spin this..rubbish talk.
CelebritiesRe: Peace Hyde Covers Dream Magazine (photos) by rman: 4:16pm On Dec 18, 2015
When did fat become curvy? Her unclothedness will be disgusting.

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